Re: [WISPA] Lanyard and positioning straps (last chance tosave mylife)

2005-08-18 Thread A. Huppenthal

:-)

Glad you enjoyed it. Yes, add a blindfold, take a swig of whiskey to 
keep warm, go alone, leave your cell phone and radio behind, and don't 
check the guywires, see how far you can sway the tower at the top, and 
bring a parachute.. :-) oh yea.. :-)


Unlike my alter ego in the mock note I wrote, I'm always super careful 
on climbing. It requires extensive planning, teamwork, double safety 
procedures, vigilence about weather. We were on Sunlight Peak in June 
and a freak storm hit - within 15 minutes of getting off the tower - ice 
pellets, rain, lightning. We were a few hundred yards from the last 
tower on the Peak -  just 10 minutes before all hell broke loose. In the 
Rockies, storms can appear without much warning - so you depend on your 
ground personnel to keep an eye out. We use weather radar on notebook 
pc's tied into the net, to supplement pre-planning reviews.


Everything makes a difference, from hair cut, to clothes, boots, to 
safety equipment, glasses to organizational items. I use a small 
backpack with clips, organized so it can be attached nearby and serve as 
a small tool bag, hardware spare parts kit, walkie talkie holder, all at 
about 5 lbs. I do take duplicate tools, all the standard bolt/nut sizes 
we have on the tower (3 wrenches) and spares, along with 2 small 
adjustable wrenches.


Just having a climbing bag outfitted properly is crucial, as far as I'm 
concerned. To someone who hasn't been up there it may seem trivial. I 
want every second to count, every movement to be preconsidered, 
everything I need in its proper place, and within easy reach. Years ago, 
I realized having to make a second trip because someone pulled vinyl 
tape out of the kit or splicing tape, or a 5/16ths speed wrench doesn't 
cut it.


While I prep each trip, I'm thinking we'll have a 'hands-off' pack with 
duplicate equipment for the climb. Using a hauling rope to bring up a 
new bag with missing tools is dangerous, unpleasent, and unnessary.


Take a course, work with experienced people, don't hold out for cheaper 
gear, clip in often,  rest, relax, focus, tell your pals to shut up 
while you are climbing, clip in, rest before you go, as some one said - 
bring water, dehydration is real at altitude - if you have a feeling 
about not climbing *don't*, trust your skeptical instinct. If you don't 
have the experience, don't climb. If you want to practice, go up 4 feet 
off the ground and do everything you plan on doing 100 feet up. You fall 
from 4 feet up, you are going to hurt, but you'll like be alive. Get to 
know all your gear within a few feet of the ground - practice using your 
backup ropes, gear, repell from a low height. Always have a backup.


And finally, don't listen to me. I'm not an instructor, and I'm not 
getting paid to write this. I do care about any of you that are 
climbing. It is dangerous - but fun, and exhilerating - if done 
properly. :-) Take the course, be careful. Stay alive.



George wrote:


:)
Alex
You forgot to mention the blindfold.
Too funny.
:)

Glad  wisps have a cents of humor

George


A. Huppenthal wrote:

First thing I do is get some leather soled, slip on shoes. I walk 
through the mud and hop on the tower. I take an extra jacket that I 
tie off to my waist and,  if my legs get tired, re-tie it to the 
tower leg and around me. Normally, the backpack I have on is filled 
with tools - I bring everything, power drill, bits, wratchet set - 
its heavy and bulky, but better than having to return to the ground. 
I usally wear just one glove, that way if the ice on the tower is  
bothering my bare hand I can just hold on with the gloved hand. I 
find it challanging when the wind is blowing just before an 
electrical storm to get to the highest part of the tower before I 
hear the thunder. I'll count down 1.2.3.4.5 after the flash, and if I 
can get to 3, I know I'm safe.


Sometimes my loose jacket will snag on an antenna on the way up and 
hold me up for a few seconds but I can swing around holding on with 
one hand. I never climb with a rope. If I do drag a rope up with me, 
I make sure its a nylon one - light and with no give. I'll weave it 
through the tower as I go up, and keep the end of it wrapped up on 
one hand - usually the bare one.


Once I'm up above 100 feet, I'll lock an arm around the tower and put 
much shoe into a cross member to get relaxed. Sometimes the blood 
cuts off in my arm and I can't feel anything in that arm, but I know 
I'm safe. Often when I'm pulling up a 150 lbs of extra stuff on a '25 
tower, it tends to band into other antennas and get stuck, but if you 
pull really hard, you can normally get it loose.


And if you do any of this stuff, don't call yourself a professional, 
or complain if you are dead in a day of climbing.








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[WISPA] RE: [WISP] For those of you having trouble deciding if this is right for you....

2005-08-18 Thread Paul Hendry
If you get a dry pair from your office to a customer site via the local
exchange is there any reason you couldn't use ADSL2+ or VDSL equipment on a
dry pair?

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I'd been begged for months to put together a story on how I got into the 
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I hope that this helps some of you either get going or quit wasting time:
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Re: [WISPA] RE: [WISP] For those of you having trouble deciding if this is right for you....

2005-08-18 Thread Brian Rohrbacher

Are you talking about this??

http://www.odessaoffice.com/sdsl.htm

Paul Hendry wrote:


If you get a dry pair from your office to a customer site via the local
exchange is there any reason you couldn't use ADSL2+ or VDSL equipment on a
dry pair?

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for you

I'd been begged for months to put together a story on how I got into the 
wisp business.  We're waiting for hardware to come in so I've finally had 
the play time to get it written up.


I hope that this helps some of you either get going or quit wasting time:
http://cbdd.typepad.com/rural/

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[WISPA] RE: [WISP] For those of you having trouble deciding if this is right for you....

2005-08-18 Thread Blair Davis

In most areas, you can no longer do that.

We did it for years, but, to cut competition with their DSL service, 
Verizon North will no longer allow you to do it


SBC in Michigan is the same



Brian Rohrbacher wrote:


Are you talking about this??

http://www.odessaoffice.com/sdsl.htm

Paul Hendry wrote:


If you get a dry pair from your office to a customer site via the local
exchange is there any reason you couldn't use ADSL2+ or VDSL 
equipment on a

dry pair?

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right

for you

I'd been begged for months to put together a story on how I got into 
the wisp business.  We're waiting for hardware to come in so I've 
finally had the play time to get it written up.


I hope that this helps some of you either get going or quit wasting 
time:

http://cbdd.typepad.com/rural/

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Re[2]: [WISPA] Gas Prices

2005-08-18 Thread Barry at Mutual Data
Hello George,

We raised ours to $150 ( was 125) early summer when gas hit 2.50 a gallon. No 
one
peeped. We also switched from running our bucket truck to a pickup
with ladder racks. Sucks when you do an install and the bucket would
really work. We got Verizon falling all over themselves giving away
DSL here too. That forced us to look at marketing/selling to people
in the country though. I'm not price warring with them.

We also are firming up our pay if not our equipment service calls.
Was letting that slide too much and the infected crap people run is
not worth doing it for free.

We are looking into alternative technologies to power our trucks
also.

Barry

Wednesday, August 17, 2005, 7:27:57 PM, you wrote:

G Brian Rohrbacher wrote:
 Is anyone bumping up their install or monthly fees to offset high gas
 prices?  Gas went up over 60 cents this week.

G If you can get away with it.
G But I don't think Qwest or Charter are raising there rates because of gas.

G I think this is just the cost of doing business and in this business
G with fixed install prices, we are squeezed.

G I was thinkin off buying a better gas mileage vehicle, now I'm really
G considering it.


G George




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[WISPA] DSS Ubolts

2005-08-18 Thread Ryan Carney








Does anybody know where to find ubolt kits to attach the DSS
style mounts to non-penetrating roof mounts, roof grids, etc



Ryan Carney

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Re: Re[2]: [WISPA] Gas Prices

2005-08-18 Thread Tom DeReggi
Yeah, gas prices suck.  But then again, we pay more than that per gallon for 
Coca Cola today, or GatorAid which is 99.9% water. I could survive without 
either of those beverages, but I don't think I'd survive walking to Service 
calls.  Funny the value people put on the dollar and the choices we make.


Tom DeReggi
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IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

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Hello George,

We raised ours to $150 ( was 125) early summer when gas hit 2.50 a gallon. 
No one

peeped. We also switched from running our bucket truck to a pickup
with ladder racks. Sucks when you do an install and the bucket would
really work. We got Verizon falling all over themselves giving away
DSL here too. That forced us to look at marketing/selling to people
in the country though. I'm not price warring with them.

We also are firming up our pay if not our equipment service calls.
Was letting that slide too much and the infected crap people run is
not worth doing it for free.

We are looking into alternative technologies to power our trucks
also.

Barry

Wednesday, August 17, 2005, 7:27:57 PM, you wrote:

G Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

Is anyone bumping up their install or monthly fees to offset high gas
prices?  Gas went up over 60 cents this week.


G If you can get away with it.
G But I don't think Qwest or Charter are raising there rates because of 
gas.


G I think this is just the cost of doing business and in this business
G with fixed install prices, we are squeezed.

G I was thinkin off buying a better gas mileage vehicle, now I'm really
G considering it.


G George




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Re: [WISPA] DSS Ubolts

2005-08-18 Thread Mark Koskenmaki



We went to our local hardware store and bought 
u-bolts to fit the place we needed them to fit. 

I think we've had to re-drill just one DSS mount so 
far. 

BTW, I've got a DSS mount at the top of a 28 foot 
telephone pole, connected to a cheap grid, so I could get 10 degrees of downtilt 
when the cheapo grid mount had nada. This was a case of 
putting in a very cheap AP to service just 1 or two clients in a canyon this 
pole overlooks. 




North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061personal correspondence 
to: mark at neofast dot netsales inquiries to: purchasing at 
neofast dot netFast Internet, NO 
WIRES!-

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  Carney 
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  Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 8:11 
  AM
  Subject: [WISPA] DSS Ubolts
  
  
  Does anybody know where to find 
  ubolt kits to attach the DSS style mounts to non-penetrating roof mounts, roof 
  grids, etcÂ…
  
  Ryan 
  Carney
  AirInfinite
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  office
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Re: [WISPA] winog

2005-08-18 Thread Jeff Booher
Title: Re: [WISPA] winog



I vote for bikinis :)



From: Gino Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] winog

How about some nice caribbean sun down here in Puerto Ricoocean front conference room with bikini view !
 
Gino

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 6:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] winog

And then there is always Grand Rapids, MI. :)
Heck, as long as it is in the midwest.

Butch Evans wrote: 
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005, Jeff Mabry wrote:



WiNOG 3 - How about St. Louis, MO?


Yeah...I'd vote for that. Or Malden, MO. Population 5000. :-)



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[WISPA] GOOGLE MAP - Adding Your WISP + New Features

2005-08-18 Thread Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
Team,

UPDATE:
Single Point for Wisp is NOT on the plate - we've scrapped the idea .. thx tom.


NEW FEATURES:
The map is pretty solid.. we CURRENTLY are adding a cool, 
1) SCROLL WHEEL ZOOM feature... so a click will just be a click ...
2) Loggin For self editing...
3) State Filter


ADDING YOUR WISP:
BUT.. since the ADD URL feature is still Down...
if you want to get yourself on the map now...
http://wifi-hotspot.wirelessinternetcoverage.com/inputpreview.html
is the admin panel...
i just tested it... it works well.

HOW TO ADD YOUR WISP:
1. Make sure that you use the very LAST FORM.2. Check, USE CURRENT GPS ON
3. under category, type, wisp
4.align your AP center to the cross hairs - you gotta zoom
5. Enter as much info as you can... the Address fields are now functional
AND adding addresses will help for the state level filter

Hit enter. thx.. and please let NON Wispa.org wisps know too... so that is map becomes popular and we all get more traffic

_
IF there are some HUGE urgent correction issues.. lemme know what they are.. i will TRY to fit them in.. .. BUT since we will be going V1.0 soon.. your LOGIN/ADMIN feature may be ready for you to self correct.. thanks!




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Re: [WISPA] Gas Prices

2005-08-18 Thread Linda Pond
Living in the Ottawa, Canada region, we just hit $1.10 per LITRE.  For our 
friends in the U.S. - there are about 4 litres in one gallon.

Linda

Linda Pond
President
Customer Connects
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We hit 2.60/gal this week. I heard some places are over 3.00/gal. This
is insane. Just 3 more years of it, anyone think they can make it at
5/gal? Time for a air powered car. http://www.theaircar.com/
or maybe just a bicycle

Jeromie


Brian Rohrbacher wrote:

 Is anyone bumping up their install or monthly fees to offset high gas
 prices?  Gas went up over 60 cents this week.


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RE: [WISPA] GOOGLE MAP - Adding Your WISP + New Features

2005-08-18 Thread Eric DaVersa












Blatant Self
Promotion Warning Ahead!!!



For those interested in their own Wireless PreQual Tool fully integrated into your website
with your coverage areas, we have just such a tool. It comes with a price; however, for
Service Providers with wide coverage areas, a sales organization, reseller
channel, and an interest in reducing truck rolls, this tool can be invaluable.



http://demo.netlogix.com
 click on Enhanced Service Prequalification.




Please feel free to contact me off-list if
interested.



Respectfully,



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Subject: [WISPA] GOOGLE MAP -
Adding Your WISP + New Features





Team,











UPDATE:





Single Point for Wisp is NOT on the plate - we've scrapped the idea ..
thx tom.

















NEW FEATURES:





The map is pretty solid.. we CURRENTLY are adding a cool, 





1) SCROLL WHEEL ZOOM feature... so a click will just be a click ...





2) Loggin For self editing...





3) State Filter

















ADDING YOUR WISP:





BUT.. since the ADD URL feature is still Down...





if you want to get yourself on the map now...





http://wifi-hotspot.wirelessinternetcoverage.com/inputpreview.html





is the admin panel...





i just tested it... it works well.











HOW TO ADD YOUR WISP:





1. Make sure that you use the very LAST FORM.
2. Check, USE CURRENT GPS ON





3. under category, type, wisp





4.align your AP center to the cross hairs - you gotta zoom





5. Enter as much info as you can... the Address fields are now functional





AND adding addresses will help for the state level filter











Hit enter. thx.. and please let NON Wispa.org
wisps know too... so that is map becomes popular and we all get more
traffic











_





IF there are some HUGE urgent correction issues.. lemme know what they
are.. i will TRY to fit them in.. .. BUT since we will be going V1.0 soon..
your LOGIN/ADMIN feature may be ready for you to self correct.. thanks! 























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http://wirelessinternetcoverage.com
http://hsdpa-coverage.com

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Suite 102
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Re: [WISPA] DSS Ubolts

2005-08-18 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181



NAPA

Marlon(509) 
982-2181 
Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 
(Vonage) 
Consulting services42846865 
(icq) 
And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net meeting)www.odessaoffice.com/wirelesswww.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



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  Carney 
  To: wireless@wispa.org 
  Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 8:11 
  AM
  Subject: [WISPA] DSS Ubolts
  
  
  Does anybody know where to find 
  ubolt kits to attach the DSS style mounts to non-penetrating roof mounts, roof 
  grids, etcÂ…
  
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  Carney
  AirInfinite
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  office
  404.475.8537 
  cell
  
  
  

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Re: [WISPA] Trade SHows

2005-08-18 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181

I just lit up my second lake resort.

And I've got a nice little (old, '73) open bow boat.  It's a fun little 
ride.  18 feet with a 302 v8 in it!  One of these days I'm gonna take that 
out and put in a bit more cam and another point of compression.


I'll let you guys know when I have time to get the marlon cam running from 
out on the water.  I'm just dying to see how my vonage system works on the 
water too!  I'm gonna find me a water proof cordless phone and I'm gonna 
make a phone call while I'm skiing!


laters,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - 
From: A. Huppenthal [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 2:39 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trade SHows


WISPCON? dghnuts.. .a... call me homer... I'm there man... I'll 
bring the Chianta Classico Roberto Stucchi 2001 to wash them down ($8)


I'm still excited about the tent camp WISPA meeting... we all just drive 
someplace that's got a lake, river, a field for camping out with the 
family, or someone  elses' family.. a few trees, a microphone and place 
for any of us to get up and talk about the latest 50 mile shot @ 30 
megabits, 100 customers per AP, 4.9 Ghz frying pan, community broadband 
concepts, all off the cuff and unplanned, un-regulated... contest to see 
who can come the closest to breaking FCC regs on AP, backhaul and SM..


or just jetskis and we call it the WiFi Ride... :-)

Its true, I'd prefer to just hang with the rest of the couragous, hard 
headed, independent, 'I ain't buying nothing from nobody unless I get to 
dissassemble it' WISPr's than listen to sales talk, but that's me. Maybe 
Trango would sponsor a week long burn in of the Atlas radios.


WISPCON may have to do for me...  Any jetskis at WISPCON...  doughnuts 
after shots of tequila, petition-signing to stop all DSL/Cable/Community 
anti-trust activities, and a march on the City Hall (whatever City it is) 
would give me a giggle as well. hmmm.. A couple of places come to mind..


Anyone got a tractor and a field with a lake close by? I smell Woodstock 
WiFi.



Mac Dearman wrote:


 I couldn't agree more with you Alex - -

$500.00 smackers is a bunch for meeting up with my wireless bud's. I am 
gonna attend the WISPCON this time around and I would really love to go 
to ISPCON. I talked to Larsen the other day and about it and that is my 
plans. I aint gonna pay no $500.00 to learn how to spell antenna, but I 
will spend $5K to meet up with some of y'all. We can get together and 
have our own grown up discussion about whatever we feel 
relevant - - - -- - - -


 So - - You gonna make WispCon?  I will get the room with double beds and 
you can shack with me. We can trash the bar every night and eat all the 
donuts early in the morning while everyone else is learning about 
microwave paths and how to add up how many mw's make a watt!!  I do 
know that there are free buffets at certain hotels as well IF you can get 
to the 4th floor!! Damn - - I have turned into bad blood hanging with all 
these other ISP's


Harnish - - where you gonna be and what you gonna attend?




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Re: [WISPA] Gas Prices

2005-08-18 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
We were about to.  But the gear I use has just come down so, for the first 
time, I'm not lowering my install prices.


We're also getting more aggressive about charging people for service calls 
not caused by my gear (the radio, even when they own it falls under my 
gear).


Mainly though, we're just sucking up $700 per month in fuel costs.  Hoping 
they come down again soon.  Or we will have to put a trip charge in place.


laters,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - 
From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 4:00 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Gas Prices


Is anyone bumping up their install or monthly fees to offset high gas 
prices?  Gas went up over 60 cents this week.

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Re: [WISPA] Trade SHows

2005-08-18 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Let me know, me and my stand up waverunner will be there if your kicking 
up a big wake...  :)


Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:


I just lit up my second lake resort.

And I've got a nice little (old, '73) open bow boat.  It's a fun 
little ride.  18 feet with a 302 v8 in it!  One of these days I'm 
gonna take that out and put in a bit more cam and another point of 
compression.


I'll let you guys know when I have time to get the marlon cam 
running from out on the water.  I'm just dying to see how my vonage 
system works on the water too!  I'm gonna find me a water proof 
cordless phone and I'm gonna make a phone call while I'm skiing!


laters,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181   Equipment sales
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services
42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp!
64.146.146.12 (net meeting)
www.odessaoffice.com/wireless
www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam



- Original Message - From: A. Huppenthal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 2:39 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Trade SHows


WISPCON? dghnuts.. .a... call me homer... I'm there man... 
I'll bring the Chianta Classico Roberto Stucchi 2001 to wash them 
down ($8)


I'm still excited about the tent camp WISPA meeting... we all just 
drive someplace that's got a lake, river, a field for camping out 
with the family, or someone  elses' family.. a few trees, a 
microphone and place for any of us to get up and talk about the 
latest 50 mile shot @ 30 megabits, 100 customers per AP, 4.9 Ghz 
frying pan, community broadband concepts, all off the cuff and 
unplanned, un-regulated... contest to see who can come the closest to 
breaking FCC regs on AP, backhaul and SM..


or just jetskis and we call it the WiFi Ride... :-)

Its true, I'd prefer to just hang with the rest of the couragous, 
hard headed, independent, 'I ain't buying nothing from nobody unless 
I get to dissassemble it' WISPr's than listen to sales talk, but 
that's me. Maybe Trango would sponsor a week long burn in of the 
Atlas radios.


WISPCON may have to do for me...  Any jetskis at WISPCON...  
doughnuts after shots of tequila, petition-signing to stop all 
DSL/Cable/Community anti-trust activities, and a march on the City 
Hall (whatever City it is) would give me a giggle as well. hmmm.. A 
couple of places come to mind..


Anyone got a tractor and a field with a lake close by? I smell 
Woodstock WiFi.



Mac Dearman wrote:


 I couldn't agree more with you Alex - -

$500.00 smackers is a bunch for meeting up with my wireless bud's. I 
am gonna attend the WISPCON this time around and I would really love 
to go to ISPCON. I talked to Larsen the other day and about it and 
that is my plans. I aint gonna pay no $500.00 to learn how to spell 
antenna, but I will spend $5K to meet up with some of y'all. We can 
get together and have our own grown up discussion about whatever we 
feel relevant - - - -- - - -


 So - - You gonna make WispCon?  I will get the room with double 
beds and you can shack with me. We can trash the bar every night and 
eat all the donuts early in the morning while everyone else is 
learning about microwave paths and how to add up how many mw's make 
a watt!!  I do know that there are free buffets at certain 
hotels as well IF you can get to the 4th floor!! Damn - - I have 
turned into bad blood hanging with all these other ISP's


Harnish - - where you gonna be and what you gonna attend?




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