[WISPA] 12th Annual EC Expo
All, Who is planning to attend Electro-Comm's 12th Annual EC Expo, February 15 - 17, 2006, Renaissance Hotel – Denver. Since this will be my first show I'd like to know which of all you WISP gurus I will be able to meet. I must owe some of you a couple of brewskis. And maybe I can learn something, and become a better provider. Ron Wallace Hahnron, Inc. 220 S. Jackson St. Addison, MI 49220 Phone: (517) 547-8410 Mobile: (517) 605-4542 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Inmarsat launches new broadband service to Eurpoe, Africa, and Asia...
I wonder what the latency is going to be. The second article mentions a usage cost of between $4-7/MB. They state that the smallest terminals are 1kg and about half the size of a laptop. This won't be a competitor to existing broadband infrastructure, but if the latency is low enough it could provide great short-term connectivity for remote areas. - Tony 07-12-2005 [12/7/05] - Inmarsat has announced the successful launch of its Broadband Global Area Network (BGAN). The company unveiled the new service to the world in a joint press briefing with representatives of its Distribution Partners and manufacturers at its London HQ on December 7. Six years in development, BGAN is the world's first mobile communications service to provide both voice and broadband data simultaneously through a truly portable device on a global basis. It is also the first to offer guaranteed IP data rates on demand. Delivered via the Inmarsat-4 satellites - the world's most advanced commercial communications spacecraft - the service is initially available across Europe, Africa, the Middle East and Asia. Following the successful launch of Inmarsat's second I-4 satellite on November 8, network coverage will be extended to North and South America from Q2, 2006. The two I-4 satellites will deliver seamless broadband coverage across 85 per cent of the world's landmass and be available to 98 per cent of the world's population. BGAN delivers broadband where other networks can't, said Michael Butler, Inmarsat's chief operating officer. It enables anyone to set up a broadband mobile office in minutes and remain fully productive - wherever they are on the planet. BGAN offers IP data speeds of up to 492kbps, with the option of guaranteed data rates up to 256kbps. The service is designed for mobile users who want dependable, secure broadband access when working in locations with an unreliable or non-existent telecoms infrastructure. [...] http://about.inmarsat.com/news/00018831.aspx Lift-off for Inmarsat's global broadband By John Walko - EE Times - (12/08/2005 5:42 AM EST) [...] The cost of transferring one megabyte of data from anywhere in the world is put at between $4 to $7, while a voice call is expected to cost under $1 a minute. [...] http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=174906190 AP story: http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=1382023 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] OFFLIST
John / WISPA... Wow, did I not even take into consideration the feelings of others in a bad situation when I wrote a couple one-handed comments. I'm sorry for my piss-poor attitude from a couple of bad days in a row bleeding over into my public statements here... I meant the first statement to be taken as a figure of speechc but the second was completely uncalled for, and for making it and offending the list I'm sorry. Rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 12:23 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OFFLIST Rick, This comment from you causes nothing but ill will and is uncalled for. I want you to apologize on the list right now and mean it. Scriv Rick Smith wrote: No offense, but wipe it off the face of the earth. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Laura Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 9:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] BellSouth rescinds N.O. donation Nuke New Orleans? I dont get it. Superior Wireless New Orleans,La. www.superior1.com - Original Message - From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 4:04 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] BellSouth rescinds N.O. donation How bout nuking N.O. and starting somewhere else ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 4:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] BellSouth rescinds N.O. donation Sascha, Although I agree with you, Bell South's actions do not condone the action of the city. New Orleans could easilly instead announce a grant offer or loan program for small business ISPs, to rebuild New Orlean's communications systems. They could understand the problem with having only a monopoly providing most of the services. And they could fix that problem from the start, empowering the vast amount of talent the industry has to offer, to accellerate the launch of a network. Instead they get their network designed by a Manufacturer. The mayor should be helping the peiople rebuild their homes and neighborhoods, and let the communication companies do their own thing. How about giving the grant money to New Orlean local businesses? It may add one or two more local jobs. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Sascha Meinrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] BellSouth rescinds N.O. donation Hi all, Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 10:33:00 -0600 From: Joe Laura [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] BellSouth rescinds N.O. donation To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org And with bell having to rebuild their whole infrastructure here in New Orleans its a bigger slap in the face IMO. The hotel owners are pretty upset with this as well. Ya, the City has really ruffled some feathers over this move. Regardless of whether or not the City of New Orleans government needs a spanking ;) -- I have a fairly different take on this matter, one less focused on the specifics of the New Orleans/BellSouth fiasco and more oriented toward BellSouth's general business strategy. BellSouth is clearly attempting to leverage it's market dominance in one area (wireline communications) to prevent competition in a different realm (in this case, wireless networking). This is exactly the type of dynamic that anti-trust laws were intended to keep in check. BellSouth's actions in New Orleans are just the most recent manifestation of a strategy that _will_ be utilized against folks like us (e.g., independent ISPs). BellSouth has systematically attempted to prevent any sort of competition within their service areas -- their New Orleans tantrum is only the latest example. I wrote up a brief piece about some of their most recent actions here: http://www.saschameinrath.com/2005dec04bellsouths_shame I'm sure there are numerous ways in which the City of New Orleans needs reforming -- but BellSouth's actions are targeted against any and all competitive entities -- they will certainly focus on WISPA members down the road. Instead of blaming New Orleans for what is obviously a widespread business strategy, I'd recommend focusing on BellSouth, who clearly isn't interested in playing well with others and has a well-documented history of using its market power to bully others. --Sascha -- Sascha Meinrath Policy Analyst* Project Coordinator * President Free Press *** CUWiN *** Acorn Active Media www.freepress.net * www.cuwireless.net * www.acornactivemedia.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
[WISPA] was: OFFLIST
Thank you Rick. I know you are not one to ever bring out the flames and figured this was something you would gladly take back. I am genuinely sorry I asked for the apology publicly. I swear it was an accident. I try to make these moves for list peace without offending anyone or causing a defensive reaction and I am very sorry. Thanks for taking the higher road here and not further heating the flames. Kindest regards to all, Scriv Rick Smith wrote: John / WISPA... Wow, did I not even take into consideration the feelings of others in a bad situation when I wrote a couple one-handed comments. I'm sorry for my piss-poor attitude from a couple of bad days in a row bleeding over into my public statements here... I meant the first statement to be taken as a figure of speechc but the second was completely uncalled for, and for making it and offending the list I'm sorry. Rick -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] OFFLIST
Some need thicker skin if such a comment was taken seriously and offended them. Cliff - Work 985-879-3219 www.cssla.com www.triparish.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Smith Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 8:49 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] OFFLIST John / WISPA... Wow, did I not even take into consideration the feelings of others in a bad situation when I wrote a couple one-handed comments. I'm sorry for my piss-poor attitude from a couple of bad days in a row bleeding over into my public statements here... I meant the first statement to be taken as a figure of speechc but the second was completely uncalled for, and for making it and offending the list I'm sorry. Rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 12:23 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OFFLIST Rick, This comment from you causes nothing but ill will and is uncalled for. I want you to apologize on the list right now and mean it. Scriv Rick Smith wrote: No offense, but wipe it off the face of the earth. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Laura Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 9:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] BellSouth rescinds N.O. donation Nuke New Orleans? I dont get it. Superior Wireless New Orleans,La. www.superior1.com - Original Message - From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 4:04 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] BellSouth rescinds N.O. donation How bout nuking N.O. and starting somewhere else ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 4:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] BellSouth rescinds N.O. donation Sascha, Although I agree with you, Bell South's actions do not condone the action of the city. New Orleans could easilly instead announce a grant offer or loan program for small business ISPs, to rebuild New Orlean's communications systems. They could understand the problem with having only a monopoly providing most of the services. And they could fix that problem from the start, empowering the vast amount of talent the industry has to offer, to accellerate the launch of a network. Instead they get their network designed by a Manufacturer. The mayor should be helping the peiople rebuild their homes and neighborhoods, and let the communication companies do their own thing. How about giving the grant money to New Orlean local businesses? It may add one or two more local jobs. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Sascha Meinrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] BellSouth rescinds N.O. donation Hi all, Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 10:33:00 -0600 From: Joe Laura [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] BellSouth rescinds N.O. donation To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org And with bell having to rebuild their whole infrastructure here in New Orleans its a bigger slap in the face IMO. The hotel owners are pretty upset with this as well. Ya, the City has really ruffled some feathers over this move. Regardless of whether or not the City of New Orleans government needs a spanking ;) -- I have a fairly different take on this matter, one less focused on the specifics of the New Orleans/BellSouth fiasco and more oriented toward BellSouth's general business strategy. BellSouth is clearly attempting to leverage it's market dominance in one area (wireline communications) to prevent competition in a different realm (in this case, wireless networking). This is exactly the type of dynamic that anti-trust laws were intended to keep in check. BellSouth's actions in New Orleans are just the most recent manifestation of a strategy that _will_ be utilized against folks like us (e.g., independent ISPs). BellSouth has systematically attempted to prevent any sort of competition within their service areas -- their New Orleans tantrum is only the latest example. I wrote up a brief piece about some of their most recent actions here: http://www.saschameinrath.com/2005dec04bellsouths_shame I'm sure there are numerous ways in which the City of New Orleans needs reforming -- but BellSouth's actions are targeted against any and all competitive entities -- they will certainly focus on WISPA members down the road. Instead of blaming New Orleans for what is obviously a widespread business strategy, I'd recommend focusing on BellSouth, who clearly isn't interested in playing well with others and has a
Re: [WISPA] How to Authenticate/Protect (Was Ethernet basedauthentication)
Or use bridged radios and anyone's dsl/cable router. Linksys, Belkin, Netgear, they all do pppoe. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] How to Authenticate/Protect (Was Ethernet basedauthentication) On Fri, 2 Dec 2005, Jason wrote: How do you other (small) WISPs do this? You can use something like this: http://tinyurl.com/duy7z This radio supports PPPoE. This would allow you to set your client's computer up for DHCP, and you still have PPPoE authentication to the network. There are other manufacturers who make a similar radio, though I don't know for sure who to send you to. I have had NO issues with this radio. -- Butch Evans BPS Networks http://www.bpsnetworks.com/ Bernie, MO Mikrotik Certified Consultant (http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] BellSouth rescinds N.O. donation
I took it to mean that you guys should move to higher, safer ground. Build a new city, give the ocean it's due and shift two steps north :-). A thought that makes imminent sense to me. As I sit here with an office right beside a creek. 5ish feet below the banks. And with insurance at $1600 per year for JUST the flood part, no flood insurance. However, I freely admit that it's a less than ideal spot for an office and I expect to totally loose my investment if we ever go over the creek banks (hasn't happened since they totally redid the water ways here nearly 50 years ago). Everything that matters to keeping the isp up and running is located out of the flood zone. Everything here can be moved in a couple of hours. Everything left can be lived without if need be. It would be a helluva financial hit though. And I'm sure there would be no help from anyone (nor should any be required). After all, I'm taking a risk that's quite clear to anyone that bothers to look. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Joe Laura [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] BellSouth rescinds N.O. donation Nuke New Orleans? I dont get it. Superior Wireless New Orleans,La. www.superior1.com - Original Message - From: Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 4:04 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] BellSouth rescinds N.O. donation How bout nuking N.O. and starting somewhere else ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 4:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] BellSouth rescinds N.O. donation Sascha, Although I agree with you, Bell South's actions do not condone the action of the city. New Orleans could easilly instead announce a grant offer or loan program for small business ISPs, to rebuild New Orlean's communications systems. They could understand the problem with having only a monopoly providing most of the services. And they could fix that problem from the start, empowering the vast amount of talent the industry has to offer, to accellerate the launch of a network. Instead they get their network designed by a Manufacturer. The mayor should be helping the peiople rebuild their homes and neighborhoods, and let the communication companies do their own thing. How about giving the grant money to New Orlean local businesses? It may add one or two more local jobs. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Sascha Meinrath [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] BellSouth rescinds N.O. donation Hi all, Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 10:33:00 -0600 From: Joe Laura [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] BellSouth rescinds N.O. donation To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org And with bell having to rebuild their whole infrastructure here in New Orleans its a bigger slap in the face IMO. The hotel owners are pretty upset with this as well. Ya, the City has really ruffled some feathers over this move. Regardless of whether or not the City of New Orleans government needs a spanking ;) -- I have a fairly different take on this matter, one less focused on the specifics of the New Orleans/BellSouth fiasco and more oriented toward BellSouth's general business strategy. BellSouth is clearly attempting to leverage it's market dominance in one area (wireline communications) to prevent competition in a different realm (in this case, wireless networking). This is exactly the type of dynamic that anti-trust laws were intended to keep in check. BellSouth's actions in New Orleans are just the most recent manifestation of a strategy that _will_ be utilized against folks like us (e.g., independent ISPs). BellSouth has systematically attempted to prevent any sort of competition within their service areas -- their New Orleans tantrum is only the latest example. I wrote up a brief piece about some of their most recent actions here: http://www.saschameinrath.com/2005dec04bellsouths_shame I'm sure there are numerous ways in which the City of New Orleans needs reforming -- but BellSouth's actions are targeted against any and all competitive entities -- they will certainly focus on WISPA members down the road. Instead of blaming New Orleans for what is obviously a widespread business strategy, I'd recommend focusing on BellSouth, who clearly isn't interested in
Re: [WISPA] How to Authenticate/Protect (Was Ethernet basedauthentication)
On Thu, 8 Dec 2005, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Or use bridged radios and anyone's dsl/cable router. Linksys, Belkin, Netgear, they all do pppoe. But then you are back to the possibility of someone hooking up the dsl router backwards. With the radio I mentioned, this is not possible, since they are all one device. -- Butch Evans BPS Networks http://www.bpsnetworks.com/ Bernie, MO Mikrotik Certified Consultant (http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Intro/Karlnet/YDI/Terabeam/Proxim/Turbocell
Hello to the list... My name is Mark Nash and I own operate a little WISP of about 300 customers in Oregon. For CPE, I started out using Breezecom 2.4GHz FH radios then switched to Karlnet RSU's loaded w/Turbocell. Then the YDI/Terabeam/Proxim series of mergers acquisitions happened and I've got products from all companies but they are all Turbocell CPE. We have 6 WiPops surrounding our customer base (rural southern Willamette Valley). We're using Trango backhauls...I started out using them simply because of their low cost and advertised bandwidth. I still have two in use from when the company was called Sunstream (I think it was 2002). I remain happy about that decision. We started out with a bridged network then ARP changed my tune and we went to a routed design. OK, so...there it is. For those of you who know what's going on with Turbocell from the new Proxim, you probably know that I'm not happy as they have set out to discontinue the Turbocell client software. So I will soon have to purchase new AP's and shift some customers around because I won't be able to purchase Turbocell-based devices. That's the word from Proxim. So...anyone heard any differently? I've also asked Proxim if we can 'downgrade' our Turbocell products to 802.11b and they are saying 'no'. It's a you-know-what sandwich from which I'd rather not take a bite. Does anyone feel my pain? Any way around these issues aside from replacing CPE? Regards, Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 325 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Arp requests
Hi All, I just got my copy of Network Spy registered so I'm looking around at what there is to be seen. I see my router broadcasting arp requests (coming from both subnets gateway addys, .1 and .129). I also see customers send out broadcast arp requests once in a while. But I have one customer that's doing it 20x more than anyone else. That does that likely mean? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Intro/Karlnet/YDI/Terabeam/Proxim/Turbocell
Mark, Contact me offlist as we are successfully deploying WRAP boards with Compact Flash loaded with Turbocell. My pains are compounded about 4 times as I had about 24 Turbocell POPs when this all started. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 12:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Intro/Karlnet/YDI/Terabeam/Proxim/Turbocell Hello to the list... My name is Mark Nash and I own operate a little WISP of about 300 customers in Oregon. For CPE, I started out using Breezecom 2.4GHz FH radios then switched to Karlnet RSU's loaded w/Turbocell. Then the YDI/Terabeam/Proxim series of mergers acquisitions happened and I've got products from all companies but they are all Turbocell CPE. We have 6 WiPops surrounding our customer base (rural southern Willamette Valley). We're using Trango backhauls...I started out using them simply because of their low cost and advertised bandwidth. I still have two in use from when the company was called Sunstream (I think it was 2002). I remain happy about that decision. We started out with a bridged network then ARP changed my tune and we went to a routed design. OK, so...there it is. For those of you who know what's going on with Turbocell from the new Proxim, you probably know that I'm not happy as they have set out to discontinue the Turbocell client software. So I will soon have to purchase new AP's and shift some customers around because I won't be able to purchase Turbocell-based devices. That's the word from Proxim. So...anyone heard any differently? I've also asked Proxim if we can 'downgrade' our Turbocell products to 802.11b and they are saying 'no'. It's a you-know-what sandwich from which I'd rather not take a bite. Does anyone feel my pain? Any way around these issues aside from replacing CPE? Regards, Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 325 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Intro/Karlnet/YDI/Terabeam/Proxim/Turbocell
Mark look no further then www.globalwireless-inc.com they sevice all of these radios and continue to make radios to this day with Karlnet/Turbocell software on them. Base, satelite, ptp or multipoint or dual radios, they even repair old Wave Wireless radios. Ydi, karlnet, Terrabeam, Proxim who bought who I don't even know anymore hard to keep up with. Been waiting along time for someone on the list to ask about Karlnet Equipment/ Software. Give John Elliott a call at 1-941-744-2511 he is PresidentMark Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello to the list...My name is Mark Nash and I own operate a little WISP of about 300 customers in Oregon.For CPE, I started out using Breezecom 2.4GHz FH radios then switched to Karlnet RSU's loaded w/Turb ocell. Then the YDI/Terabeam/Proxim series of mergers acquisitions happened and I've got products from all companies but they are all Turbocell CPE.We have 6 WiPops surrounding our customer base (rural southern Willamette Valley). We're using Trango backhauls...I started out using them simply because of their low cost and advertised bandwidth. I still have two in use from when the company was called Sunstream (I think it was 2002). I remain happy about that decision.We started out with a bridged network then ARP changed my tune and we went to a routed design.OK, so...there it is. For those of you who know what's going on with Turbocell from the new Proxim, you probably know that I'm not happy as they have set out to discontinue the Turbocell client software. So I will soon have to purchase new AP's and shift some customers around because I won't be able to purchase Turbocell-based devices. That's the word fro m Proxim. So...anyone heard any differently? I've also asked Proxim if we can 'downgrade' our Turbocell products to 802.11b and they are saying 'no'.It's a you-know-what sandwich from which I'd rather not take a bite.Does anyone feel my pain? Any way around these issues aside from replacing CPE?Regards,Mark NashNetwork EngineerUnwiredOnline.Net325 Holly StreetJunction City, OR 97448http://www.uwol.net541-998-541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Arp requests
I would first check to make sure he has the appropriate gateway. Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. www.inetsouth.com www.radioresponse.org (Katrina relief efforts) 318-728-8600 - Rayville 318-728-9600 318-376-2562 - cell Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Hi All, I just got my copy of Network Spy registered so I'm looking around at what there is to be seen. I see my router broadcasting arp requests (coming from both subnets gateway addys, .1 and .129). I also see customers send out broadcast arp requests once in a while. But I have one customer that's doing it 20x more than anyone else. That does that likely mean? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Arp requests
He's pretty technical. He'd have called by now if his internet wasn't working. I'll have him check but I'd think that's not it. I also saw a NetBIOS thing from my machine! NetBIOS isn't installed. How is that possible? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Arp requests I would first check to make sure he has the appropriate gateway. Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. www.inetsouth.com www.radioresponse.org (Katrina relief efforts) 318-728-8600 - Rayville 318-728-9600 318-376-2562 - cell Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Hi All, I just got my copy of Network Spy registered so I'm looking around at what there is to be seen. I see my router broadcasting arp requests (coming from both subnets gateway addys, .1 and .129). I also see customers send out broadcast arp requests once in a while. But I have one customer that's doing it 20x more than anyone else. That does that likely mean? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Intro/Karlnet/YDI/Terabeam/Proxim/Turbocell
I feel your pain as well. Same deal here. WinnCom is still listing the TurboCell licenses for sale. I will confirm availability as soon as my sales guy gets back from lunch. Rick's WRAP with CF will work as well. However, if the TurboCell licenses are no longer available, I wonder if Rick will be able to continue to produce them? Other possibilities are in the works. Terrorbeam/YDI/Proxim/Karlnet or whoever they are this week annoyed a lot of people with this mishandling of the TurboCell software and hardware. Not to mention the callous way they treated the folks at the Karlnet offices in Ohio. Personally, while I will continue to buy TurboCell licenses as long as they are available, I will never consider any new Terrorbeam/YDI/Proxim/Karlnet products. We are looking toward Netstream on WRAP or RouterBoard as our long term solution. Others have their own choices for software/hardware. Planning on doing each conversion of a tower and client equipment over a weekend, then reclaiming to old TurboCell equipment for other locations on other towers Mark Nash wrote: Hello to the list... My name is Mark Nash and I own operate a little WISP of about 300 customers in Oregon. For CPE, I started out using Breezecom 2.4GHz FH radios then switched to Karlnet RSU's loaded w/Turbocell. Then the YDI/Terabeam/Proxim series of mergers acquisitions happened and I've got products from all companies but they are all Turbocell CPE. We have 6 WiPops surrounding our customer base (rural southern Willamette Valley). We're using Trango backhauls...I started out using them simply because of their low cost and advertised bandwidth. I still have two in use from when the company was called Sunstream (I think it was 2002). I remain happy about that decision. We started out with a bridged network then ARP changed my tune and we went to a routed design. OK, so...there it is. For those of you who know what's going on with Turbocell from the new Proxim, you probably know that I'm not happy as they have set out to discontinue the Turbocell client software. So I will soon have to purchase new AP's and shift some customers around because I won't be able to purchase Turbocell-based devices. That's the word from Proxim. So...anyone heard any differently? I've also asked Proxim if we can 'downgrade' our Turbocell products to 802.11b and they are saying 'no'. It's a you-know-what sandwich from which I'd rather not take a bite. Does anyone feel my pain? Any way around these issues aside from replacing CPE? Regards, Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 325 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- Blair Davis AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240 West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A division of: Camp Communication Services, INC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Intro/Karlnet/YDI/Terabeam/Proxim/Turbocell
It is a bad situation all around if you can't support your network as units fail and you can't replace them One of the benefits of the WRAP setup is that you could flash the CF card with new software in the future and not loose your investment Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 1:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Intro/Karlnet/YDI/Terabeam/Proxim/Turbocell I feel your pain as well. Same deal here. WinnCom is still listing the TurboCell licenses for sale. I will confirm availability as soon as my sales guy gets back from lunch. Rick's WRAP with CF will work as well. However, if the TurboCell licenses are no longer available, I wonder if Rick will be able to continue to produce them? Other possibilities are in the works. Terrorbeam/YDI/Proxim/Karlnet or whoever they are this week annoyed a lot of people with this mishandling of the TurboCell software and hardware. Not to mention the callous way they treated the folks at the Karlnet offices in Ohio. Personally, while I will continue to buy TurboCell licenses as long as they are available, I will never consider any new Terrorbeam/YDI/Proxim/Karlnet products. We are looking toward Netstream on WRAP or RouterBoard as our long term solution. Others have their own choices for software/hardware. Planning on doing each conversion of a tower and client equipment over a weekend, then reclaiming to old TurboCell equipment for other locations on other towers Mark Nash wrote: Hello to the list... My name is Mark Nash and I own operate a little WISP of about 300 customers in Oregon. For CPE, I started out using Breezecom 2.4GHz FH radios then switched to Karlnet RSU's loaded w/Turbocell. Then the YDI/Terabeam/Proxim series of mergers acquisitions happened and I've got products from all companies but they are all Turbocell CPE. We have 6 WiPops surrounding our customer base (rural southern Willamette Valley). We're using Trango backhauls...I started out using them simply because of their low cost and advertised bandwidth. I still have two in use from when the company was called Sunstream (I think it was 2002). I remain happy about that decision. We started out with a bridged network then ARP changed my tune and we went to a routed design. OK, so...there it is. For those of you who know what's going on with Turbocell from the new Proxim, you probably know that I'm not happy as they have set out to discontinue the Turbocell client software. So I will soon have to purchase new AP's and shift some customers around because I won't be able to purchase Turbocell-based devices. That's the word from Proxim. So...anyone heard any differently? I've also asked Proxim if we can 'downgrade' our Turbocell products to 802.11b and they are saying 'no'. It's a you-know-what sandwich from which I'd rather not take a bite. Does anyone feel my pain? Any way around these issues aside from replacing CPE? Regards, Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 325 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- Blair Davis AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240 West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A division of: Camp Communication Services, INC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/194 - Release Date: 12/07/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.12/194 - Release Date: 12/07/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Arp requests
Means that the arp timeout for that device is set low. DSJ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 12:18 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Arp requests Hi All, I just got my copy of Network Spy registered so I'm looking around at what there is to be seen. I see my router broadcasting arp requests (coming from both subnets gateway addys, .1 and .129). I also see customers send out broadcast arp requests once in a while. But I have one customer that's doing it 20x more than anyone else. That does that likely mean? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Arp requests
NetBios is installed if you are running XP or 2K - - unless you turned them off in the services area of your PC. You shouldnt see net bios if you are behind a router. If you are not behind a firewall then I would definately turn that pup off. If you are installing clients on your network and not installing a firewall - - your network will be full of net bios traffic. Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. www.inetsouth.com www.radioresponse.org (Katrina relief efforts) 318-728-8600 - Rayville 318-728-9600 318-376-2562 - cell Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: He's pretty technical. He'd have called by now if his internet wasn't working. I'll have him check but I'd think that's not it. I also saw a NetBIOS thing from my machine! NetBIOS isn't installed. How is that possible? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Arp requests I would first check to make sure he has the appropriate gateway. Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. www.inetsouth.com www.radioresponse.org (Katrina relief efforts) 318-728-8600 - Rayville 318-728-9600 318-376-2562 - cell Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Hi All, I just got my copy of Network Spy registered so I'm looking around at what there is to be seen. I see my router broadcasting arp requests (coming from both subnets gateway addys, .1 and .129). I also see customers send out broadcast arp requests once in a while. But I have one customer that's doing it 20x more than anyone else. That does that likely mean? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Inmarsat launches new broadband service to Eurpoe, Africa, and Asia...
Spoke to bgan people and they intend to deliver voice also. I will be in South Africa for 4 weeks and will be looking into it. Costs though seem to remove it from most rural areas. $900 for equipment and just under 7.00/mB. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca office 905 349-2084 Emergency only Pager 905 377-6900 skype cajeptha Blair Davis wrote: Assuming the data request goes from the sat terminal to the sat, then from the sat to the earth link station, out and back from the internet, then from the earth link station to the sat, and finally from the sat back to the terminal, it will have traveled about 143,000Km. With the speed of light being 300,000Km/sec there is about 450ms of latency caused by the simple physical layout of any sat based system. This doesn't explain the sat latency I have seen around here 1400ms to google via Directway, 1300ms to google via Wild Blue. Nor does it account for the 30kbit/sec upload speeds... Wild Blue's local partner just suspended installs in my area. They claim that they can't install any more because of upload speed and latency problems caused by too many users with too much traffic. I am now picking up users who the local partner got all excited about Wild Blue. And once Wild Blue users see a wireless connection with 300-500kbit upload speeds, they start breaking their contracts... Just my $.02. -- Tony Weasler wrote: I wonder what the latency is going to be. The second article mentions a usage cost of between $4-7/MB. They state that the smallest terminals are 1kg and about half the size of a laptop. This won't be a competitor to existing broadband infrastructure, but if the latency is low enough it could provide great short-term connectivity for remote areas. - Tony 07-12-2005 [12/7/05] - Inmarsat has announced the successful launch of its Broadband Global Area Network (BGAN). The company unveiled the new service to the world in a joint press briefing with representatives of its Distribution Partners and manufacturers at its London HQ on December 7. Six years in development, BGAN is the world's first mobile communications service to provide both voice and broadband data simultaneously through a truly portable device on a global basis. It is also the first to offer guaranteed IP data rates on demand. Delivered via the Inmarsat-4 satellites - the world's most advanced commercial communications spacecraft - the service is initially available across Europe, Africa, the Middle East and Asia. Following the successful launch of Inmarsat's second I-4 satellite on November 8, network coverage will be extended to North and South America from Q2, 2006. The two I-4 satellites will deliver seamless broadband coverage across 85 per cent of the world's landmass and be available to 98 per cent of the world's population. BGAN delivers broadband where other networks can't, said Michael Butler, Inmarsat's chief operating officer. It enables anyone to set up a broadband mobile office in minutes and remain fully productive - wherever they are on the planet. BGAN offers IP data speeds of up to 492kbps, with the option of guaranteed data rates up to 256kbps. The service is designed for mobile users who want dependable, secure broadband access when working in locations with an unreliable or non-existent telecoms infrastructure. [...] http://about.inmarsat.com/news/00018831.aspx Lift-off for Inmarsat's global broadband By John Walko - EE Times - (12/08/2005 5:42 AM EST) [...] The cost of transferring one megabyte of data from anywhere in the world is put at between $4 to $7, while a voice call is expected to cost under $1 a minute. [...] http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=174906190 AP story: http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=1382023 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Arp requests
I do have a firewall on my pc. I found in the advanced settings that netbios over ip was turned on. I turned that off so we'll see how things work now. Seems to me I had to turn that on at one customer's place or else the internet wouldn't work for them.?.?.? thanks! Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Arp requests NetBios is installed if you are running XP or 2K - - unless you turned them off in the services area of your PC. You shouldnt see net bios if you are behind a router. If you are not behind a firewall then I would definately turn that pup off. If you are installing clients on your network and not installing a firewall - - your network will be full of net bios traffic. Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. www.inetsouth.com www.radioresponse.org (Katrina relief efforts) 318-728-8600 - Rayville 318-728-9600 318-376-2562 - cell Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: He's pretty technical. He'd have called by now if his internet wasn't working. I'll have him check but I'd think that's not it. I also saw a NetBIOS thing from my machine! NetBIOS isn't installed. How is that possible? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Arp requests I would first check to make sure he has the appropriate gateway. Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. www.inetsouth.com www.radioresponse.org (Katrina relief efforts) 318-728-8600 - Rayville 318-728-9600 318-376-2562 - cell Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Hi All, I just got my copy of Network Spy registered so I'm looking around at what there is to be seen. I see my router broadcasting arp requests (coming from both subnets gateway addys, .1 and .129). I also see customers send out broadcast arp requests once in a while. But I have one customer that's doing it 20x more than anyone else. That does that likely mean? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Intro/Karlnet/YDI/Terabeam/Proxim/Turbocell
Follow up: Ken Vasilyev at WinnCom says that the TurboCell licenses are available and should remain available via WinnCom. Software only He told me that WinnCom had complained loudly the last time terrorbeam did this and had gotten sales of the licenses reinstated. He also said that he did not expect terrorbeam to try it again after the bad publicity from the last time Of course, your mileage may vary... Here is a link to the Karlnet mailing list. Not very busy, but you can often get help with TurboCell problems there... http://www2.wbisp.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/karlnet For those who need it, here is Ken's contact info: Ken Vasilyev, Account Manager Winncom Technologies Corp. 30700 Carter Street, Suite A Solon, OH 44139 USA Toll Free: 888 946-6266 Ext.117 Int'l (440) 498-9510 Ext. 117 Fax: (440) 498-9511 Mobile:(216) 269-2186 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blair Davis wrote: I feel your pain as well. Same deal here. WinnCom is still listing the TurboCell licenses for sale. I will confirm availability as soon as my sales guy gets back from lunch. Rick's WRAP with CF will work as well. However, if the TurboCell licenses are no longer available, I wonder if Rick will be able to continue to produce them? Other possibilities are in the works. Terrorbeam/YDI/Proxim/Karlnet or whoever they are this week annoyed a lot of people with this mishandling of the TurboCell software and hardware. Not to mention the callous way they treated the folks at the Karlnet offices in Ohio. Personally, while I will continue to buy TurboCell licenses as long as they are available, I will never consider any new Terrorbeam/YDI/Proxim/Karlnet products. We are looking toward Netstream on WRAP or RouterBoard as our long term solution. Others have their own choices for software/hardware. Planning on doing each conversion of a tower and client equipment over a weekend, then reclaiming to old TurboCell equipment for other locations on other towers Mark Nash wrote: Hello to the list... My name is Mark Nash and I own operate a little WISP of about 300 customers in Oregon. For CPE, I started out using Breezecom 2.4GHz FH radios then switched to Karlnet RSU's loaded w/Turbocell. Then the YDI/Terabeam/Proxim series of mergers acquisitions happened and I've got products from all companies but they are all Turbocell CPE. We have 6 WiPops surrounding our customer base (rural southern Willamette Valley). We're using Trango backhauls...I started out using them simply because of their low cost and advertised bandwidth. I still have two in use from when the company was called Sunstream (I think it was 2002). I remain happy about that decision. We started out with a bridged network then ARP changed my tune and we went to a routed design. OK, so...there it is. For those of you who know what's going on with Turbocell from the new Proxim, you probably know that I'm not happy as they have set out to discontinue the Turbocell client software. So I will soon have to purchase new AP's and shift some customers around because I won't be able to purchase Turbocell-based devices. That's the word from Proxim. So...anyone heard any differently? I've also asked Proxim if we can 'downgrade' our Turbocell products to 802.11b and they are saying 'no'. It's a you-know-what sandwich from which I'd rather not take a bite. Does anyone feel my pain? Any way around these issues aside from replacing CPE? Regards, Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 325 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- Blair Davis AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240 West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A division of: Camp Communication Services, INC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Arp requests
They are all showing 60. Whatever that is. Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: dustin jurman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 10:13 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Arp requests Means that the arp timeout for that device is set low. DSJ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 12:18 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Arp requests Hi All, I just got my copy of Network Spy registered so I'm looking around at what there is to be seen. I see my router broadcasting arp requests (coming from both subnets gateway addys, .1 and .129). I also see customers send out broadcast arp requests once in a while. But I have one customer that's doing it 20x more than anyone else. That does that likely mean? thanks, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Intro/Karlnet/YDI/Terabeam/Proxim/Turbocell
Thanks Rick.. I've heard alot about these WRAP boards. Is this something we would put together ourselves or are there products available. What are the costs like? I guess I'd really be interested in what I should be doing for CPE going on, assuming we can still get the Turbocell licenses (see post from Blair Davis re: Winncomm continuing to be able to sell Turbocell licenses). Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 325 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.uwol.net - Original Message - From: Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:25 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Intro/Karlnet/YDI/Terabeam/Proxim/Turbocell Mark, Contact me offlist as we are successfully deploying WRAP boards with Compact Flash loaded with Turbocell. My pains are compounded about 4 times as I had about 24 Turbocell POPs when this all started. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 12:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Intro/Karlnet/YDI/Terabeam/Proxim/Turbocell Hello to the list... My name is Mark Nash and I own operate a little WISP of about 300 customers in Oregon. For CPE, I started out using Breezecom 2.4GHz FH radios then switched to Karlnet RSU's loaded w/Turbocell. Then the YDI/Terabeam/Proxim series of mergers acquisitions happened and I've got products from all companies but they are all Turbocell CPE. We have 6 WiPops surrounding our customer base (rural southern Willamette Valley). We're using Trango backhauls...I started out using them simply because of their low cost and advertised bandwidth. I still have two in use from when the company was called Sunstream (I think it was 2002). I remain happy about that decision. We started out with a bridged network then ARP changed my tune and we went to a routed design. OK, so...there it is. For those of you who know what's going on with Turbocell from the new Proxim, you probably know that I'm not happy as they have set out to discontinue the Turbocell client software. So I will soon have to purchase new AP's and shift some customers around because I won't be able to purchase Turbocell-based devices. That's the word from Proxim. So...anyone heard any differently? I've also asked Proxim if we can 'downgrade' our Turbocell products to 802.11b and they are saying 'no'. It's a you-know-what sandwich from which I'd rather not take a bite. Does anyone feel my pain? Any way around these issues aside from replacing CPE? Regards, Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 325 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] P2P Worm Monitoring/Alerting/Control
I'm at the point on my network now that I really need to control unnecessary bandwidth usage. The biggest problem is the p2p users with their excessive upload, and worms come in a close second. My network is comprised of a Cisco 3640, Cisco C4840G L3 switch for segmenting, and Dell 3324 managed switches. I have run ntop in the past but I believe it only reports interactively through the web interface. I wouldn't consider myself too far off from obtaining an SNMP station/software like SNMPc. I'm needing to implement a solution that will monitor, alert on, and control this type of traffic. Either not pass it or rate-limit it. I'm interested in solutions that have been implemented, home-grown, tested, failed, etc. Thanks in advance... Mark NashNetwork EngineerUnwiredOnline.Net325 Holly StreetJunction City, OR 97448http://www.uwol.net541-998-541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] P2P Worm Monitoring/Alerting/Control
Must agree with Butch. MikroTik works well and scales well. It is all we use for P2P, firewalling, NAT, rate limiting and logging. Blair Davis West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 Butch Evans wrote: On Thu, 8 Dec 2005, Mark Nash wrote: I'm needing to implement a solution that will monitor, alert on, and control this type of traffic. Either not pass it or rate-limit it. I'm interested in solutions that have been implemented, home-grown, tested, failed, etc. While there are LOTS of solutions out there (including the home-grown), Mikrotik is probably easiest, and will do precisely what you are asking for. http://www.mikrotik.com/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
