Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-13 Thread Tom DeReggi
Travis, Am I missing something? Yes you are. The results you are explaining are appropriate for Layer2 testing and UDP testing. (2% packet loss = 2% reduction in speed) Its different with TCP and way different with FTP. Understanding its 1:30am, my mind is shot after a 20 hour work day,

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-13 Thread Tom DeReggi
Travis, Its real easy to demonstrate my point with Atlas PtP gear. You can hard set at various modulations, and start lowering power, until linktest shows the percentage of packetloss you want to test. Linktest is great to measure loss to tell when you got it at the right level for testing.

Re: [WISPA] Tech Support Call Center Interest ?

2006-04-13 Thread Tom DeReggi
Peter, Fully agree. But much easier said than done. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 12:38 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-13 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
agreed, VL is far from carrier grade On Apr 12, 2006, at 9:16 AM, Charles Wu wrote: snip Motorola designed Canopy specifically for the WISP market, not the carrier market. Alvarion designed VL specifically for the carrier market, not the WISP market. /snip Ah, the mis-perceptions of the

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-13 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Steve, What defines something as carrier grade should also be: 1. Scalablity 2. True QOS ( QOS performance in the upstream and downstream ) On Apr 12, 2006, at 9:38 AM, Steve Stroh wrote: John: Here's my working definition of carrier grade: Designed for use by carriers Suitable for use

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-13 Thread Travis Johnson
Tom, Again, I am confused. You state that TCP will correct for packet loss it detects... so in that case, FTP would never see the packet loss because TCP is already correcting for the loss. My point was, if you have a link with 2% loss, it will show up doing a TCP test by being slower than

[WISPA] access near Shirley, WVa.

2006-04-13 Thread Mario Pommier
Anyone provide access in West Union, West Viriginia, near Shirley? Address: HC67 Box 197 West Union, W Va. 26456 I understand it's the backwoods. The customer is high up on a hill/mountain. Thanks. Mario --- [This e-mail was scanned for viruses by our AntiVirus Protection System] -- WISPA

[WISPA] FCC Sets Rules For AWS Auction

2006-04-13 Thread Peter R.
At its monthly open meeting earlier today, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) approved plans to reallocate spectrum below 3 GHz now earmarked for new Advanced Wireless Services (AWS) and to set into motion a June 29 auction of the AWS radio frequencies for which the FCC expects to

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-13 Thread Tim Wolfe
I was thinking I would be the devils advocate, and ask this question: Why go thru all the hassle of learning Mikrotik(Which, IMHO, Is a PITA), when You can save the learning curve, and use Tranzeo, Deliberant or even HighGain Antennas solutions that are cheap and easy to administer and a

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-13 Thread Tom DeReggi
Travis, I agree my explanation is not complete regarding detail working of the protocols, and see your logic in your response, that what would FTP do if TCP already took care of it already. However, it doesn't work that way exactly. Does TCP fully take care of it? There are limits on how TCP

Re: [WISPA] CPE's and the NEC

2006-04-13 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
http://www.techexcess.net/apc-protectnet-ethernet-surge-protector-pnet1.aspx Just bumped into those the other day. Gonna try a few out. marlon - Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday,

Re: [WISPA] Anyone Hiring?

2006-04-13 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
 A jar head? As a WISP? What's the world coming to? ducking marlon cackle - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:22 AM Subject: [WISPA] Anyone Hiring? Michael D. Lake4112 Berkshire Dr.Sarasota, FL.

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-13 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Get a 2.4 ap and a couple of cpe kits and do a small test install. If it looks good buy more. One of the first things we'd need to know in order to really help you out would be more info on what your competition is doing marlon - Original Message - From: Richard Goodin [EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] Best system for a new WISP

2006-04-13 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
And lets not forget about all of the really nice things that Motorola does for the WISP industry at the FCC. NOT marlon - Original Message - From: Matt Larsen - Lists [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:20 PM Subject: Re:

[WISPA] Fw: Google, eBay and Amazon may build their own wireless Internet

2006-04-13 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
- Original Message - From: John Oram [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lonnie Nunweiler [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Marlon Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 6:17 PM Subject: Google, eBay and Amazon may build their own wireless Internet