Re: [WISPA] Fw: Wireless In Washington

2006-06-29 Thread George Rogato
Wild Blue , good example. Wild Blue is a fringe broadband player. Cable and DSL set the rules. They are the majority of the market. The majority of the market does not charge by the bit, but the fringe does. Guess thats proof enough. George Dylan Oliver wrote: On 6/27/06, *George Rogato*

Re: [WISPA] Fw: Wireless In Washington

2006-06-29 Thread Dylan Oliver
On 6/29/06, George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Wild Blue , good example. Wild Blue is a fringe broadband player.Cable and DSL set the rules. They are the majority of the market.The majority of the market does not charge by the bit, but the fringe does. Guess thats proof enough.No, it's not

Re: [WISPA] www.fon.com - a threat to us all? - back to net neutrality

2006-06-29 Thread Peter R.
Rick Smith wrote: I still don't see why anyone should be able to use my network without paying me for the right to do so. PERIOD. I don't run a network for the benefit of the free world, I run it for the benefit of my checkbook. Which needs SERIOUS help. :) OK, and while we're at it,

RE: [WISPA] Trango M900 AP - Connectorized?

2006-06-29 Thread Mac Dearman
I haven't tried the LOS range because if I have LOS to the 900 then I have LOS to 2.4 and 5.x and my druthers are to connect to those instead. YMMV, but the 900 is not a magic bullet! I do have clients connected up to 2.5 miles NLOS, but it's really close to NEAR LOS rather than NO LOS. The

[WISPA] Height above metal roof

2006-06-29 Thread Ryan Spott
I have been offered the roof of a barn in my area to mount 900, 2.4 and 5.8 APs. What is the minimum height above the metal that I want to be at if I were to mount omnis? I figured you folks would know with all the talk of metal water towers and metal silos. Thanks! ryan -- WISPA Wireless

Re: [WISPA] Trango M900 AP - Connectorized?

2006-06-29 Thread Tom DeReggi
Yes the AP has an external connector. It uses the same connector as all the other Trango units with external ports. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Mark Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] www.fon.com - a threat to us all? - back to net neutrality

2006-06-29 Thread Tom DeReggi
Yeah, its jsut like a drug manuafacturer selling speed for fat loss knowing the possible harm, and getting off teh hook because of the little disclaimer that says, "please consult your doctor to see if this is right for you", knowing that 99% of people would never do that, nor read the fine

RE: [WISPA] Height above metal roof

2006-06-29 Thread Mac Dearman
I don't know how high off the roof it would take to not have bad multipath issues. I do know that I had a CPE on one end of a metal building that was longer than a football field twice as wide(was shooting over the length of it) and I the Devil trying to correct that issue while it was in that

Re: [WISPA] Trango M900 AP - Connectorized?

2006-06-29 Thread Tom DeReggi
Hard question to answer. One of our sites uses teh Pac Wireless Hor Omni. I just had one prospect 1/4 mile from the tower, no success, -90db signal with Yagi, the trees were jsut to thick. I have another sub going through three miles of trees, with -74 and works great. I plan on 5 mile

Re: [WISPA] Height above metal roof

2006-06-29 Thread Blair Davis
I always put my omnis at least 1/2 the diameter of the roof, (water tower or silo), higher than the roof if in the center -- Ryan Spott wrote: I have been offered the roof of a barn in my area to mount 900, 2.4 and 5.8 APs. What is the minimum height above the metal that I want to be at

Re: [WISPA] Height above metal roof

2006-06-29 Thread Tom DeReggi
The bigger issue is wether the barn is high enough for being a cell site. If the Barn is up on high ground elevations, it might be OK. Remember the freznel zone needs to be above the tree line for the LOS freqs. I can tell you that I get nad reflections of regular roofs in many cases when

Re: [WISPA] www.fon.com - a threat to us all? - back to net neutrality

2006-06-29 Thread Dylan Oliver
On 6/29/06, Rick Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The difference between FON and nimrod customers, is that FON isexploiting this for THEIR gain. is flowing, at my expense, intoFON's pockets, due to a nimrod customer that installed their gear at the violation of my AUP.Again, plz read fon.com

RE: [WISPA] Metered Access (was Wireless In Washington)

2006-06-29 Thread Mark McElvy
Satellite providers too. They all have Fair Access Policies (FAP) based on usage. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R. Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 9:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Metered Access (was Wireless

[WISPA] EarthLink Unwires Anaheim, Announces Wholesale Program

2006-06-29 Thread Peter R.
EarthLink Unwires Anaheim, Announces Wholesale Program By Tara Seals Posted on: 06/29/2006 EarthLink Inc. launched a municipal Wi-Fi broadband network in Anaheim, Calif., and announced a wholesale Wi-Fi access strategy on Thursday. EarthLink has won bids in several cities to provide citywide

[WISPA] War Driving Police

2006-06-29 Thread Peter R.
http://techdirt.com/articles/20060629/1843240.shtml from a comment: I have yet to understand how having open WiFi poses a threat to anyone. If anyone is going to be war driving I would think it would be the internet providers, since it's your agreement with them that is being broken by leaving