Re: [WISPA] SR9 Performance

2006-09-05 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
CW,

Did anyone offer their experiences on the SR9's as you asked below? Maybe I
missed them. :(

- Cliff


On 8/31/06 4:05 PM, cw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is anyone getting satisfactory performance with SR9s on WAR boards? If so,
 what antennas are you using for base station and subscriber end?
 
 At an 1/8 of a mile through foliage and structures, a neg ninety two is rock
 solid moving 1500k/sec with a couple of coat hangers for antennas. At 1/4 of
 a mile with less of everything in the way, a neg eighty-five barely
 associates and drops packets with most antenna combinations we've tried.
 
 A Pac Wireless 8dBi omni on the base station was the worst. Small Pac
 Wireless sector panel to sector panel was the best performance. Yagi to omni
 was worse than disappointing. I'd appreciate any antenna suggestions.
 
 Thanks,
 
 cw
 
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RE: [WISPA] flooded lmr 600

2006-09-05 Thread Mac Dearman








There definitely is a LMR-DB that is water
tight. The regular LMR coax is just water resistant
and you have done well to find your problem! I remember the first run of LMR I
had to get moisture in it about 5 years ago - - - I pulled my hair out trying
to figure that one out, but I was still wet behind my ears in wireless then too
:)



GL,





Mac 











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Subject: [WISPA] flooded lmr 600





Hi-



I have some runs of LMR 600 that are contained in carlon
conduits. We had been noticing continued performance decline in the remote
APs connected to the APs. I popped open the boxes at the end of each
conduit and water came pouring out. The contractor probably didnt
glue a connection properly or the blacktop contractor cracked it when he put
the paving down. There is no way to replace the conduit. This install has
been in 3.5 years. Not sure how long the water has been in the conduits,
but it looks to be a good while. Im assuming the cable has been
compromised slightly over time- can water get through the jacket?

Is there such a thing as an underwater Ethernet cable, will
silicone flooded do the trick?



Thanks

Chris






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Re: [WISPA] SR9 Performance

2006-09-05 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler

We have not finished testing yet so we are keeping a bit quiet.  I do
not wish to promote this until I know for sure it is reliable.  I can
say that initial testing shows much better results than cw is seeing.
Of course we do not use omnis and coat hangers but rather PacWireless
9 dB, 11 dB and 13 dB yagis.

Our initial test configuration is a 4 port WAR board with 2 SR9 radios
in the bottom slots and 2 WLM-54G radios in top slots.  We run from
24V solar, so the voltage goes from 21V to 28V depending on state of
charge and battery.  With our tower locations I can hit the both
directions up and down our Valley on both 2.4 GHz and 900 MHz.  Wer
figure almost everybody should be able to connect with one or both.
The preference will be for 2.4 GHz and use 900 MHz for tough jobs.

I'll have more information later this week as we begin to connect a
few customers and let them beat on it.

Lonnie

On 9/5/06, Cliff Leboeuf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

CW,

Did anyone offer their experiences on the SR9's as you asked below? Maybe I
missed them. :(

- Cliff


On 8/31/06 4:05 PM, cw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is anyone getting satisfactory performance with SR9s on WAR boards? If so,
 what antennas are you using for base station and subscriber end?

 At an 1/8 of a mile through foliage and structures, a neg ninety two is rock
 solid moving 1500k/sec with a couple of coat hangers for antennas. At 1/4 of
 a mile with less of everything in the way, a neg eighty-five barely
 associates and drops packets with most antenna combinations we've tried.

 A Pac Wireless 8dBi omni on the base station was the worst. Small Pac
 Wireless sector panel to sector panel was the best performance. Yagi to omni
 was worse than disappointing. I'd appreciate any antenna suggestions.

 Thanks,

 cw

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[WISPA] Wireless Industry Partnership (WIP) Launches Online Resource For Wireless Companies Worldwide

2006-09-05 Thread Dawn DiPietro

All,

I was looking through the members and found WISPA listed.

Regards,
Dawn DiPietro

Wireless Industry Partnership (WIP) Launches Online Resource For 
Wireless Companies Worldwide


Written by WIP
Tuesday, 05 September 2006

The Wireless Industry Partnership (WIP) today announced the launch of 
the WIP portal, a set of tools and resources for wireless companies 
around the world, available online at www.wipconnector.com.


WIP�s online tools and resources help businesses reduce time to market 
for innovative wireless products and services.


Vancouver, BC � August 28, 2006 �� WIP estimates there are more than 
40,000 wireless companies worldwide and designed these tools and 
resources in an effort to fuel business opportunities for member 
companies as well as to stimulate growth and innovation in the wireless 
industry.


The key WIP tool is WIPConnector, an innovative directory that allows 
members to pinpoint the industry people with whom they need to network. 
WIPConnector is a free service for members of the Wireless Industry 
Partnership. The WIP portal includes other resources to reduce the time 
to market for new wireless products and services, aid research and 
development initiatives, uncover channel opportunities and achieve other 
important business goals.



While most analyst firms believe the global telecommunications market 
will grow by only single digits over the next several years, these same 
analysts forecast sustained double-digit growth in wireless. Insight 
Research Corporation�s 2006 Telecommunications Industry Review predicts 
the wireless services market will approach one trillion dollars (US) by 
2010 and represent more than 55 percent of the entire telecommunications 
market. Although it is the telecom growth engine, the wireless industry 
itself is growing beyond telecommunications with technologies such as 
Bluetooth, Global Positioning System (GPS), Radio Frequency 
Identification (RFID) and others.



�Wireless technology will very soon touch the lives of every person who 
uses technology,� said Caroline Lewko, WIP founder and CEO. �All around 
the world there are entrepreneurs that not only create new wireless 
technologies and applications, but change the way entire industries 
solve problems, deliver goods and services and enhance life�s 
conveniences through the use of wireless. But the wireless industry 
continues to be very segmented with each segment dealing with disparate 
technologies, platforms and operating systems, a variety regulatory 
environments, lack of standards and a host of other issues. WIP 
understands the complicated and challenging waters wireless businesses 
need to navigate in order to become successful, so we developed the 
tools available via the WIP portal to help them succeed.�



Membership is available to companies and individuals at an introductory 
rate of $300 (US) per year. WIP has also signed collaboration agreements 
with industry associations around the world such as the MX Alliance 
based in the UK and the Ottawa Wireless Cluster in Canada, and is 
negotiating with others. Members of these organizations are able to join 
WIP at a reduced rate.



A key benefit for WIP members is the ability to create a WIPConnector 
profile � a virtual billboard advertisement that gives even the smallest 
wireless companies exposure to a vast array of potential partners, 
customers, distribution channels, investors and other strategic 
relationships.



One of the first companies to join WIP and take advantage of 
WIPConnector is Technical Magic, an Ottawa, Canada-based corporate 
application development company and architect of Techano�, which offers 
the MovementMobile product line, an intelligent wireless system designed 
specifically for the courier industry.



�As a growing wireless company we are looking to build 
business-to-business relationships for our MovementMobile product with 
inner-city courier support channels,� said Gary Hewett, founder and 
chief software architect of Technical Magic Corporation. �Membership in 
WIP offers us a highly cost-effective way to increase the global 
visibility and awareness of Technical Magic. WIP helps us collect 
valuable market data while the WIPConnector directory has quickly 
plugged our expanding company into the broader wireless community.�



At launch the WIP portal will include a wide range of tools and 
resources for members, which WIP plans to expand over the next six 
months. These tools and resources will continue to evolve over time with 
member input.



To find out more about the WIP portal, WIPConnector directory and 
membership, visit www.wipconnector.com.



About the Wireless Industry Partnership (WIP)


The Wireless Industry Partnership is an online business development 
resource for wireless businesses across the globe. WIP promotes 
innovation by networking the various links in the wireless value chain 
from ideas, to capital, to development, to distribution channels. WIP�s 

RE: [WISPA] Wireless Industry Partnership (WIP) Launches Online Resource For Wireless Companies Worldwide

2006-09-05 Thread Rick Harnish
As far as I know, it looks like a typical include everyone of substance as a 
member.  Nothing has crossed my desk nor has there been any discussion during 
WISPA board meetings about such a request for membership.  

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn DiPietro
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 12:02 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Wireless Industry Partnership (WIP) Launches Online Resource 
For Wireless Companies Worldwide

All,

I was looking through the members and found WISPA listed.

Regards,
Dawn DiPietro

Wireless Industry Partnership (WIP) Launches Online Resource For 
Wireless Companies Worldwide

Written by WIP
Tuesday, 05 September 2006

The Wireless Industry Partnership (WIP) today announced the launch of 
the WIP portal, a set of tools and resources for wireless companies 
around the world, available online at www.wipconnector.com.

WIP�s online tools and resources help businesses reduce time to market 
for innovative wireless products and services.

Vancouver, BC � August 28, 2006 �� WIP estimates there are more than 
40,000 wireless companies worldwide and designed these tools and 
resources in an effort to fuel business opportunities for member 
companies as well as to stimulate growth and innovation in the wireless 
industry.

The key WIP tool is WIPConnector, an innovative directory that allows 
members to pinpoint the industry people with whom they need to network. 
WIPConnector is a free service for members of the Wireless Industry 
Partnership. The WIP portal includes other resources to reduce the time 
to market for new wireless products and services, aid research and 
development initiatives, uncover channel opportunities and achieve other 
important business goals.


While most analyst firms believe the global telecommunications market 
will grow by only single digits over the next several years, these same 
analysts forecast sustained double-digit growth in wireless. Insight 
Research Corporation�s 2006 Telecommunications Industry Review predicts 
the wireless services market will approach one trillion dollars (US) by 
2010 and represent more than 55 percent of the entire telecommunications 
market. Although it is the telecom growth engine, the wireless industry 
itself is growing beyond telecommunications with technologies such as 
Bluetooth, Global Positioning System (GPS), Radio Frequency 
Identification (RFID) and others.


�Wireless technology will very soon touch the lives of every person who 
uses technology,� said Caroline Lewko, WIP founder and CEO. �All around 
the world there are entrepreneurs that not only create new wireless 
technologies and applications, but change the way entire industries 
solve problems, deliver goods and services and enhance life�s 
conveniences through the use of wireless. But the wireless industry 
continues to be very segmented with each segment dealing with disparate 
technologies, platforms and operating systems, a variety regulatory 
environments, lack of standards and a host of other issues. WIP 
understands the complicated and challenging waters wireless businesses 
need to navigate in order to become successful, so we developed the 
tools available via the WIP portal to help them succeed.�


Membership is available to companies and individuals at an introductory 
rate of $300 (US) per year. WIP has also signed collaboration agreements 
with industry associations around the world such as the MX Alliance 
based in the UK and the Ottawa Wireless Cluster in Canada, and is 
negotiating with others. Members of these organizations are able to join 
WIP at a reduced rate.


A key benefit for WIP members is the ability to create a WIPConnector 
profile � a virtual billboard advertisement that gives even the smallest 
wireless companies exposure to a vast array of potential partners, 
customers, distribution channels, investors and other strategic 
relationships.


One of the first companies to join WIP and take advantage of 
WIPConnector is Technical Magic, an Ottawa, Canada-based corporate 
application development company and architect of Techano�, which offers 
the MovementMobile product line, an intelligent wireless system designed 
specifically for the courier industry.


�As a growing wireless company we are looking to build 
business-to-business relationships for our MovementMobile product with 
inner-city courier support channels,� said Gary Hewett, founder and 
chief software architect of Technical Magic Corporation. �Membership in 
WIP offers us a highly cost-effective way to increase the global 
visibility and awareness of Technical Magic. WIP helps us collect 
valuable market data while the WIPConnector directory has quickly 
plugged our expanding company into the broader wireless community.�


At launch the WIP portal will include a wide range of tools and 

Re: [WISPA] SR9 Performance

2006-09-05 Thread cw
Thanks for the info, Lonnie. The coathangers came after we couldn't make 
PacWireless sector panels, omnis or yagis work. Four radios on one WAR4 
surprises me. Thought that was too much power consumption.


You're using yagis for the base station broadcast? Which one/s? Can anyone 
point me at documentation for yagi propagation?


I'll be real interested to see if you get any penetration at a mile or more. 
- cw


Lonnie Nunweiler wrote:

We have not finished testing yet so we are keeping a bit quiet.  I do
not wish to promote this until I know for sure it is reliable.  I can
say that initial testing shows much better results than cw is seeing.
Of course we do not use omnis and coat hangers but rather PacWireless
9 dB, 11 dB and 13 dB yagis.

Our initial test configuration is a 4 port WAR board with 2 SR9 radios
in the bottom slots and 2 WLM-54G radios in top slots.  We run from
24V solar, so the voltage goes from 21V to 28V depending on state of
charge and battery.  With our tower locations I can hit the both
directions up and down our Valley on both 2.4 GHz and 900 MHz.  Wer
figure almost everybody should be able to connect with one or both.
The preference will be for 2.4 GHz and use 900 MHz for tough jobs.

I'll have more information later this week as we begin to connect a
few customers and let them beat on it.


On 8/31/06 4:05 PM, cw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is anyone getting satisfactory performance with SR9s on WAR boards? 
If so, what antennas are you using for base station and subscriber end?


 At an 1/8 of a mile through foliage and structures, a neg ninety two 
is rock solid moving 1500k/sec with a couple of coat hangers for antennas. 
At 1/4 of a mile with less of everything in the way, a neg eighty-five barely
 associates and drops packets with most antenna combinations we've 
tried.


 A Pac Wireless 8dBi omni on the base station was the worst. Small Pac
 Wireless sector panel to sector panel was the best performance. Yagi 
to omni was worse than disappointing. I'd appreciate any antenna suggestions.

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Re: [WISPA] SR9 Performance

2006-09-05 Thread George Rogato
I've been holding off on the SR9's till I heard more and lonnie has had 
time to figure out what changes need to be made.


Also I'm waiting on pac wireless 900 rootennas to make life easy.

Sometimes it's better to wait.

George


cw wrote:
Thanks for the info, Lonnie. The coathangers came after we couldn't make 
PacWireless sector panels, omnis or yagis work. Four radios on one WAR4 
surprises me. Thought that was too much power consumption.


You're using yagis for the base station broadcast? Which one/s? Can 
anyone point me at documentation for yagi propagation?


I'll be real interested to see if you get any penetration at a mile or 
more. - cw


Lonnie Nunweiler wrote:

We have not finished testing yet so we are keeping a bit quiet.  I do
not wish to promote this until I know for sure it is reliable.  I can
say that initial testing shows much better results than cw is seeing.
Of course we do not use omnis and coat hangers but rather PacWireless
9 dB, 11 dB and 13 dB yagis.

Our initial test configuration is a 4 port WAR board with 2 SR9 radios
in the bottom slots and 2 WLM-54G radios in top slots.  We run from
24V solar, so the voltage goes from 21V to 28V depending on state of
charge and battery.  With our tower locations I can hit the both
directions up and down our Valley on both 2.4 GHz and 900 MHz.  Wer
figure almost everybody should be able to connect with one or both.
The preference will be for 2.4 GHz and use 900 MHz for tough jobs.

I'll have more information later this week as we begin to connect a
few customers and let them beat on it.


On 8/31/06 4:05 PM, cw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is anyone getting satisfactory performance with SR9s on WAR boards? 
If so, what antennas are you using for base station and subscriber end?


 At an 1/8 of a mile through foliage and structures, a neg ninety 
two is rock solid moving 1500k/sec with a couple of coat hangers for 
antennas. At 1/4 of a mile with less of everything in the way, a neg 
eighty-five barely
 associates and drops packets with most antenna combinations we've 
tried.


 A Pac Wireless 8dBi omni on the base station was the worst. Small Pac
 Wireless sector panel to sector panel was the best performance. 
Yagi to omni was worse than disappointing. I'd appreciate any antenna 
suggestions.


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George Rogato

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[WISPA] wireless fiber deployment

2006-09-05 Thread Mario Pommier




This is a new area of wireless deployment for me:
I've been asked to quote for a gigabit wireless link between a
radiology department and a nearby hospital (0.4 miles).
I'm aware of two options so far, and here's some info I've gathered:
 -- BridgeWave - 60Ghz; unlicensed; $25,000 complete link; ~$6,000
5-year hardware warranty; 1Gbps
 -- GigaBeam - 70/80Ghz; licensed; $37,000 complete link (includes
$1,000 10-year license); $0.00 5-year hardware warranty; 2.7Gbps
release by Dec. 2006.

I know Bob Moldashel said he has installed the Bridgewave.
Anyone care to comment on any experience you've had with these
companies?

Thanks a lot.

Mario




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Re: [WISPA] wireless fiber deployment

2006-09-05 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
Title: Re: [WISPA] wireless fiber deployment



Mario,
I too have a similar opportunity. Mine is for about 1,500 feet. However, the prices that I have received are considerably less than what you have below.
- Cliff


On 9/5/06 4:37 PM, Mario Pommier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

This is a new area of wireless deployment for me:
I've been asked to quote for a gigabit wireless link between a radiology department and a nearby hospital (0.4 miles).
I'm aware of two options so far, and here's some info I've gathered:
-- BridgeWave - 60Ghz; unlicensed; $25,000 complete link; ~$6,000 5-year hardware warranty; 1Gbps
-- GigaBeam - 70/80Ghz; licensed; $37,000 complete link (includes $1,000 10-year license); $0.00 5-year hardware warranty; 2.7Gbps release by Dec. 2006.

I know Bob Moldashel said he has installed the Bridgewave.
Anyone care to comment on any experience you've had with these companies?

Thanks a lot.

Mario








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Re: [WISPA] wireless fiber deployment

2006-09-05 Thread Mario Pommier

Good to hear that.
Priced similarly?

Thanks.

Mario

Matt Liotta wrote:

We deploy BrideWave gear and have been happy with it. BridgeWave also 
has a licensed radio operating in the 80Ghz range.


-Matt

Mario Pommier wrote:


This is a new area of wireless deployment for me:
I've been asked to quote for a gigabit wireless link between a 
radiology department and a nearby hospital (0.4 miles).

I'm aware of two options so far, and here's some info I've gathered:
-- BridgeWave - 60Ghz; unlicensed; $25,000 complete link; ~$6,000 
5-year hardware warranty; 1Gbps
-- GigaBeam - 70/80Ghz; licensed; $37,000 complete link (includes 
$1,000 10-year license); $0.00 5-year hardware warranty; 2.7Gbps 
release by Dec. 2006.


I know Bob Moldashel said he has installed the Bridgewave.
Anyone care to comment on any experience you've had with these 
companies?


Thanks a lot.

Mario





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Re: [WISPA] wireless fiber deployment

2006-09-05 Thread lakeland
Mario

Your price for the bridgewave is msrp for the unit with parabolic antenna 

For. 5 miles that would be my choice. Some would say that is not necessary and 
you could get by with the lower tier unit 

The price for that system ia avaulable at a much lower number 

For $25k I will sell itl configure it and test it.  :-)



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-Original Message-
From: Cliff Leboeuf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 16:42:45 
To:WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] wireless fiber deployment

Mario,
 I too have a similar opportunity. Mine is for about 1,500 feet. However, the 
prices that I have received are considerably less than what you have below.
 - Cliff
 
 
 On 9/5/06 4:37 PM, Mario Pommier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 This is a new area of wireless deployment for me:
 I've been asked to quote for a gigabit wireless link between a radiology 
department and a nearby hospital (0.4 miles).
 I'm aware of two options so far, and here's some info I've gathered:
 -- BridgeWave - 60Ghz; unlicensed; $25,000 complete link; ~$6,000 5-year 
hardware warranty; 1Gbps
 -- GigaBeam - 70/80Ghz; licensed; $37,000 complete link (includes $1,000 
10-year license); $0.00 5-year hardware warranty; 2.7Gbps release by Dec. 2006.
 
 I know Bob Moldashel said he has installed the Bridgewave.
 Anyone care to comment on any experience you've had with these companies?
 
 Thanks a lot.
 
 Mario
 
 
 
 


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Re: [WISPA] wireless fiber deployment

2006-09-05 Thread John Scrivner
Licensed 70 to 80 GHz actually has less oxygen absorption of the signal 
than 60 GHz (by several orders of magnitude). If you are providing a 
Service Level Agreement with 5 - 9's or better % uptime then you should 
stick with a licensed product IMO. As Matt states below, both companies 
offer a licensed product. Depending on the rainfall annually where you 
are deploying you may get nearly the same uptime in 60 GHz, especially 
since it is just 0.4 miles. I would research before making a choice 
though if uptime requirements are strict.


Remember to make sure you research your connection into the network 
also. Your point of demarcation will need to be identified. In many 
cases it is a port from the switch that you would provide. Make sure you 
select a switch compatible with the radio product you launch. If they 
provide the switch demarc point then make sure it is on the list of 
tested and known good hardware for connecting to the link you setup.


Before quoting the product make sure you remember things like back-up 
power, downlead selection, surge and lightning suppression, stand-by 
spare radios for replacement, etc. Ask to see the software management 
interfaces for the radios being considered. If you buy radios that work 
but you cannot diagnose what is wrong when they break then you have a 
problem. It is not like you will have a 60 to 90 GHz signal meter or 
spectrum analyzer anytime soon so the software management interface is 
very important. If you do not address these things now then you will be 
sorry later.


If I were you I would at least get a quote or two from fiber 
construction companies to see if a fiber could be built for same or less 
money. Depending on the location this might be the more efficient solution.


That is the biggest beef I have with the millimeter-wave crowd right 
now. They try to think in terms of how much money they can squeeze out 
for each single link sale instead of looking at the mass potential if we 
could all get our hands on low-cost Gigabit backhaul to all of our 
towers. Ken and I have been beating this into their brains now for a 
couple of years. It will sink in someday when they think it is their 
idea.   :-)   jk

Scriv


Matt Liotta wrote:

We deploy BrideWave gear and have been happy with it. BridgeWave also 
has a licensed radio operating in the 80Ghz range.


-Matt

Mario Pommier wrote:


This is a new area of wireless deployment for me:
I've been asked to quote for a gigabit wireless link between a 
radiology department and a nearby hospital (0.4 miles).

I'm aware of two options so far, and here's some info I've gathered:
-- BridgeWave - 60Ghz; unlicensed; $25,000 complete link; ~$6,000 
5-year hardware warranty; 1Gbps
-- GigaBeam - 70/80Ghz; licensed; $37,000 complete link (includes 
$1,000 10-year license); $0.00 5-year hardware warranty; 2.7Gbps 
release by Dec. 2006.


I know Bob Moldashel said he has installed the Bridgewave.
Anyone care to comment on any experience you've had with these 
companies?


Thanks a lot.

Mario





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Re: [WISPA] SR9 Performance

2006-09-05 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler

As I said we are using 9 dB, 11 dB and 13 dB yagis.  We are in test
mode so we are trying all of them for all locations so that we can
find the best combination for the task.

I am not at the point yet where I can give advice for which type to
use for a certain task.  There are still combinations to try as part
of our evaluation.

Lonnie


On 9/5/06, cw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks for the info, Lonnie. The coathangers came after we couldn't make
PacWireless sector panels, omnis or yagis work. Four radios on one WAR4
surprises me. Thought that was too much power consumption.

You're using yagis for the base station broadcast? Which one/s? Can anyone
point me at documentation for yagi propagation?

I'll be real interested to see if you get any penetration at a mile or more.
- cw

Lonnie Nunweiler wrote:
 We have not finished testing yet so we are keeping a bit quiet.  I do
 not wish to promote this until I know for sure it is reliable.  I can
 say that initial testing shows much better results than cw is seeing.
 Of course we do not use omnis and coat hangers but rather PacWireless
 9 dB, 11 dB and 13 dB yagis.

 Our initial test configuration is a 4 port WAR board with 2 SR9 radios
 in the bottom slots and 2 WLM-54G radios in top slots.  We run from
 24V solar, so the voltage goes from 21V to 28V depending on state of
 charge and battery.  With our tower locations I can hit the both
 directions up and down our Valley on both 2.4 GHz and 900 MHz.  Wer
 figure almost everybody should be able to connect with one or both.
 The preference will be for 2.4 GHz and use 900 MHz for tough jobs.

 I'll have more information later this week as we begin to connect a
 few customers and let them beat on it.

 On 8/31/06 4:05 PM, cw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is anyone getting satisfactory performance with SR9s on WAR boards?
 If so, what antennas are you using for base station and subscriber end?
 
  At an 1/8 of a mile through foliage and structures, a neg ninety two
 is rock solid moving 1500k/sec with a couple of coat hangers for antennas.
 At 1/4 of a mile with less of everything in the way, a neg eighty-five barely
  associates and drops packets with most antenna combinations we've
 tried.
 
  A Pac Wireless 8dBi omni on the base station was the worst. Small Pac
  Wireless sector panel to sector panel was the best performance. Yagi
 to omni was worse than disappointing. I'd appreciate any antenna suggestions.
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[WISPA] New 700 mhz rules ?

2006-09-05 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Fresh off the FCC:

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-06-114A1.pdf

no mention of unlicensed 700 mhz ... I think our chances are slim.

Gino A. Villarini
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Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
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