[WISPA] IP Cameras
Someone on these lists said they had inexpensive ip cams with motion detection and they paid like 140.00 for it. Anyone remember or know what camera? I'm looking for something like this, but in an outdoor enclosure. Thanks George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IP Cameras
George, I know Marlon was using a similar camera for outdoors. Not sure what he paid for it though. Regards, Dawn DiPietro George Rogato wrote: Someone on these lists said they had inexpensive ip cams with motion detection and they paid like 140.00 for it. Anyone remember or know what camera? I'm looking for something like this, but in an outdoor enclosure. Thanks George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IP Cameras
Call Dustin at RSAIR (813) 232-4887 or dustin at rapidsys.com. He offers some sweet IP cameras with great resolution. Wireless IP Cameras. For the outside. Small footprint. DVR for video storage. Web interface for viewing the streaming video. - Peter -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] IP Cameras
Panasonic has a nice outdoor rated PTZ IP cam with motion sensor for about $550 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 11:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] IP Cameras I'm using one from Inscape Data. EC has them. I think I get it back tomorrow. It's been at a gas station taking video clips of someone using a stolen gas card. The guy's set to be arrested today. They've got him on cam 6 times in the last 2 or so weeks. The gas station is jazzed. It's interesting, the guy that's got it is NOT the guy that they just knew was using it! Good thing we had the cam. Next it'll be used in a town that's got someone (they think kids) taking wallets, cds, etc. from open cars. We're gonna set up in a building out on the street and set up a sting. This one has good resolution, a zoom lens, built in web server, audio and video, built in motion sensor (though it will false alarm in the dark), ethernet AND wireless. I paid about $500 for it. It's WELL worth the price. I have a $150 dlink cam too. It's got a decent picture but I never was able to get the dang thing to send pics to a server off site. I ended up just giving it away. The Inscape ones can be had with an outdoor enclosure and pan tilt zoom remote controls. I don't know exactly what those would add to the price. When I get it back I can set it up so you can view it if you'd like. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 12:32 AM Subject: [WISPA] IP Cameras Someone on these lists said they had inexpensive ip cams with motion detection and they paid like 140.00 for it. Anyone remember or know what camera? I'm looking for something like this, but in an outdoor enclosure. Thanks George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] IP Cameras
While we are talking about wireless cameras I have a question related to this. I need a camera at my front gate so I can see who is there. The problem is the gate is 1/4 mile from the house. About half of this distance is through a stand of oak trees. Do you think any of these cameras would punch through that amount of tree cover? The camera and the receiver for it would be have to mounted right at the height of the thickest part of the trees. Ken Chipps -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:09 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] IP Cameras Panasonic has a nice outdoor rated PTZ IP cam with motion sensor for about $550 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 11:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] IP Cameras I'm using one from Inscape Data. EC has them. I think I get it back tomorrow. It's been at a gas station taking video clips of someone using a stolen gas card. The guy's set to be arrested today. They've got him on cam 6 times in the last 2 or so weeks. The gas station is jazzed. It's interesting, the guy that's got it is NOT the guy that they just knew was using it! Good thing we had the cam. Next it'll be used in a town that's got someone (they think kids) taking wallets, cds, etc. from open cars. We're gonna set up in a building out on the street and set up a sting. This one has good resolution, a zoom lens, built in web server, audio and video, built in motion sensor (though it will false alarm in the dark), ethernet AND wireless. I paid about $500 for it. It's WELL worth the price. I have a $150 dlink cam too. It's got a decent picture but I never was able to get the dang thing to send pics to a server off site. I ended up just giving it away. The Inscape ones can be had with an outdoor enclosure and pan tilt zoom remote controls. I don't know exactly what those would add to the price. When I get it back I can set it up so you can view it if you'd like. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 12:32 AM Subject: [WISPA] IP Cameras Someone on these lists said they had inexpensive ip cams with motion detection and they paid like 140.00 for it. Anyone remember or know what camera? I'm looking for something like this, but in an outdoor enclosure. Thanks George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] IP Cameras
What about a powerline ethernet adapter, assuming the power to the end of the drive feeds off the house? -Russ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Chipps Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 11:30 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] IP Cameras While we are talking about wireless cameras I have a question related to this. I need a camera at my front gate so I can see who is there. The problem is the gate is 1/4 mile from the house. About half of this distance is through a stand of oak trees. Do you think any of these cameras would punch through that amount of tree cover? The camera and the receiver for it would be have to mounted right at the height of the thickest part of the trees. Ken Chipps -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:09 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] IP Cameras Panasonic has a nice outdoor rated PTZ IP cam with motion sensor for about $550 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 11:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] IP Cameras I'm using one from Inscape Data. EC has them. I think I get it back tomorrow. It's been at a gas station taking video clips of someone using a stolen gas card. The guy's set to be arrested today. They've got him on cam 6 times in the last 2 or so weeks. The gas station is jazzed. It's interesting, the guy that's got it is NOT the guy that they just knew was using it! Good thing we had the cam. Next it'll be used in a town that's got someone (they think kids) taking wallets, cds, etc. from open cars. We're gonna set up in a building out on the street and set up a sting. This one has good resolution, a zoom lens, built in web server, audio and video, built in motion sensor (though it will false alarm in the dark), ethernet AND wireless. I paid about $500 for it. It's WELL worth the price. I have a $150 dlink cam too. It's got a decent picture but I never was able to get the dang thing to send pics to a server off site. I ended up just giving it away. The Inscape ones can be had with an outdoor enclosure and pan tilt zoom remote controls. I don't know exactly what those would add to the price. When I get it back I can set it up so you can view it if you'd like. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 12:32 AM Subject: [WISPA] IP Cameras Someone on these lists said they had inexpensive ip cams with motion detection and they paid like 140.00 for it. Anyone remember or know what camera? I'm looking for something like this, but in an outdoor enclosure. Thanks George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] IP Cameras
That's just about what I've been able to do with a couple Hawking cheap corner reflector 15db antennae. But, you've got to shoot under the trees...that's the secret. And, hopefully, you're in a place where the noise level is not a factor. . . . j o n a t h a n Jonathan Schmidt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ken Chipps Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:30 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] IP Cameras While we are talking about wireless cameras I have a question related to this. I need a camera at my front gate so I can see who is there. The problem is the gate is 1/4 mile from the house. About half of this distance is through a stand of oak trees. Do you think any of these cameras would punch through that amount of tree cover? The camera and the receiver for it would be have to mounted right at the height of the thickest part of the trees. Ken Chipps -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:09 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] IP Cameras Panasonic has a nice outdoor rated PTZ IP cam with motion sensor for about $550 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 11:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] IP Cameras I'm using one from Inscape Data. EC has them. I think I get it back tomorrow. It's been at a gas station taking video clips of someone using a stolen gas card. The guy's set to be arrested today. They've got him on cam 6 times in the last 2 or so weeks. The gas station is jazzed. It's interesting, the guy that's got it is NOT the guy that they just knew was using it! Good thing we had the cam. Next it'll be used in a town that's got someone (they think kids) taking wallets, cds, etc. from open cars. We're gonna set up in a building out on the street and set up a sting. This one has good resolution, a zoom lens, built in web server, audio and video, built in motion sensor (though it will false alarm in the dark), ethernet AND wireless. I paid about $500 for it. It's WELL worth the price. I have a $150 dlink cam too. It's got a decent picture but I never was able to get the dang thing to send pics to a server off site. I ended up just giving it away. The Inscape ones can be had with an outdoor enclosure and pan tilt zoom remote controls. I don't know exactly what those would add to the price. When I get it back I can set it up so you can view it if you'd like. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 12:32 AM Subject: [WISPA] IP Cameras Someone on these lists said they had inexpensive ip cams with motion detection and they paid like 140.00 for it. Anyone remember or know what camera? I'm looking for something like this, but in an outdoor enclosure. Thanks George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] IP Cameras
Separate electric meters. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Russ Kreigh Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:57 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] IP Cameras What about a powerline ethernet adapter, assuming the power to the end of the drive feeds off the house? -Russ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Chipps Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 11:30 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] IP Cameras While we are talking about wireless cameras I have a question related to this. I need a camera at my front gate so I can see who is there. The problem is the gate is 1/4 mile from the house. About half of this distance is through a stand of oak trees. Do you think any of these cameras would punch through that amount of tree cover? The camera and the receiver for it would be have to mounted right at the height of the thickest part of the trees. Ken Chipps -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:09 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] IP Cameras Panasonic has a nice outdoor rated PTZ IP cam with motion sensor for about $550 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 11:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] IP Cameras I'm using one from Inscape Data. EC has them. I think I get it back tomorrow. It's been at a gas station taking video clips of someone using a stolen gas card. The guy's set to be arrested today. They've got him on cam 6 times in the last 2 or so weeks. The gas station is jazzed. It's interesting, the guy that's got it is NOT the guy that they just knew was using it! Good thing we had the cam. Next it'll be used in a town that's got someone (they think kids) taking wallets, cds, etc. from open cars. We're gonna set up in a building out on the street and set up a sting. This one has good resolution, a zoom lens, built in web server, audio and video, built in motion sensor (though it will false alarm in the dark), ethernet AND wireless. I paid about $500 for it. It's WELL worth the price. I have a $150 dlink cam too. It's got a decent picture but I never was able to get the dang thing to send pics to a server off site. I ended up just giving it away. The Inscape ones can be had with an outdoor enclosure and pan tilt zoom remote controls. I don't know exactly what those would add to the price. When I get it back I can set it up so you can view it if you'd like. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 12:32 AM Subject: [WISPA] IP Cameras Someone on these lists said they had inexpensive ip cams with motion detection and they paid like 140.00 for it. Anyone remember or know what camera? I'm looking for something like this, but in an outdoor enclosure. Thanks George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] IP Cameras
Noise level is ok, but there is no under the trees due to the undergrowth. One of the points to the house location is to not be seen from the gate. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:52 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] IP Cameras That's just about what I've been able to do with a couple Hawking cheap corner reflector 15db antennae. But, you've got to shoot under the trees...that's the secret. And, hopefully, you're in a place where the noise level is not a factor. . . . j o n a t h a n Jonathan Schmidt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ken Chipps Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:30 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] IP Cameras While we are talking about wireless cameras I have a question related to this. I need a camera at my front gate so I can see who is there. The problem is the gate is 1/4 mile from the house. About half of this distance is through a stand of oak trees. Do you think any of these cameras would punch through that amount of tree cover? The camera and the receiver for it would be have to mounted right at the height of the thickest part of the trees. Ken Chipps -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:09 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] IP Cameras Panasonic has a nice outdoor rated PTZ IP cam with motion sensor for about $550 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 11:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] IP Cameras I'm using one from Inscape Data. EC has them. I think I get it back tomorrow. It's been at a gas station taking video clips of someone using a stolen gas card. The guy's set to be arrested today. They've got him on cam 6 times in the last 2 or so weeks. The gas station is jazzed. It's interesting, the guy that's got it is NOT the guy that they just knew was using it! Good thing we had the cam. Next it'll be used in a town that's got someone (they think kids) taking wallets, cds, etc. from open cars. We're gonna set up in a building out on the street and set up a sting. This one has good resolution, a zoom lens, built in web server, audio and video, built in motion sensor (though it will false alarm in the dark), ethernet AND wireless. I paid about $500 for it. It's WELL worth the price. I have a $150 dlink cam too. It's got a decent picture but I never was able to get the dang thing to send pics to a server off site. I ended up just giving it away. The Inscape ones can be had with an outdoor enclosure and pan tilt zoom remote controls. I don't know exactly what those would add to the price. When I get it back I can set it up so you can view it if you'd like. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 12:32 AM Subject: [WISPA] IP Cameras Someone on these lists said they had inexpensive ip cams with motion detection and they paid like 140.00 for it. Anyone remember or know what camera? I'm looking for something like this, but in an outdoor enclosure. Thanks George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IP Cameras
I don't think a camera with G built in is going to do any better than one of our typical G systems. But you could do some 900 PtP link into the ethernet of the cam and make a better shot at it than 2.4 George Ken Chipps wrote: Noise level is ok, but there is no under the trees due to the undergrowth. One of the points to the house location is to not be seen from the gate. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:52 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] IP Cameras That's just about what I've been able to do with a couple Hawking cheap corner reflector 15db antennae. But, you've got to shoot under the trees...that's the secret. And, hopefully, you're in a place where the noise level is not a factor. . . . j o n a t h a n Jonathan Schmidt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ken Chipps Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:30 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] IP Cameras While we are talking about wireless cameras I have a question related to this. I need a camera at my front gate so I can see who is there. The problem is the gate is 1/4 mile from the house. About half of this distance is through a stand of oak trees. Do you think any of these cameras would punch through that amount of tree cover? The camera and the receiver for it would be have to mounted right at the height of the thickest part of the trees. Ken Chipps -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:09 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] IP Cameras Panasonic has a nice outdoor rated PTZ IP cam with motion sensor for about $550 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 11:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] IP Cameras I'm using one from Inscape Data. EC has them. I think I get it back tomorrow. It's been at a gas station taking video clips of someone using a stolen gas card. The guy's set to be arrested today. They've got him on cam 6 times in the last 2 or so weeks. The gas station is jazzed. It's interesting, the guy that's got it is NOT the guy that they just knew was using it! Good thing we had the cam. Next it'll be used in a town that's got someone (they think kids) taking wallets, cds, etc. from open cars. We're gonna set up in a building out on the street and set up a sting. This one has good resolution, a zoom lens, built in web server, audio and video, built in motion sensor (though it will false alarm in the dark), ethernet AND wireless. I paid about $500 for it. It's WELL worth the price. I have a $150 dlink cam too. It's got a decent picture but I never was able to get the dang thing to send pics to a server off site. I ended up just giving it away. The Inscape ones can be had with an outdoor enclosure and pan tilt zoom remote controls. I don't know exactly what those would add to the price. When I get it back I can set it up so you can view it if you'd like. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 12:32 AM Subject: [WISPA] IP Cameras Someone on these lists said they had inexpensive ip cams with motion detection and they paid like 140.00 for it. Anyone remember or know what camera? I'm looking for something like this, but in an outdoor enclosure. Thanks George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
RE: [WISPA] Bragging on Mikrotik
Hi Butch, It was my understanding that using Mikrotik, EoIP, WDS and RSTP you could achieve a similar thing with only 1-2 ping drops per handoff between AP's at least that's what is being claimed by some on the MK forum. We are just about to test such a setup to facilitate a roaming VoIP solution so 5-7 ping failures is going to be too noticeable. Cheers, P. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: 04 September 2006 03:58 To: Equipment List Cc: Arnis Riekstins; Part-15 Mikrotik List; WISP List; Wispa List Subject: [WISPA] Bragging on Mikrotik I want to take this opportunity to share with these lists some things that we have recently done with a Mikrotik RouterOS based network. This may seem to some like blatant advertising, but it is certainly not intended to be that. Many of you have looked for a solution that will let you do some of the things that we now have working (testing is still underway) using pure Mikrotik network. The network is a 13 AP network (2.4GHz) that covers an entire city. There are a few small areas that do not currently have coverage, but these can be filled in easily as they are identified. The network was built by a small city in eastern OK (I won't go into detail here). The intent of the network was to provide for first responders with access to the internet as well as city resources. In addition to this, the city wanted to make the network available for internet access to the general public (I don't know the details, but my understanding is that local ISPs will handle this part). Obviously, we needed to make certain that the police, fire and EMS units had security from the rest of the network. We are handling this in several ways. Mikrotik has the ability to create what are called virtual APs (a virtual AP is a second AP, with the ability to use distinct access-lists as well as distinct security profiles from the physical radio card). That is to say, that the virtual AP acts like a second radio card but is, in reality, using only one physical radio card. At any rate, this virtual AP is being used for the city's network, while the other ISPs will be using their own virtual AP to provide their internet service. The police, fire and ambulance vehicles will be equipped with their own Mikrotik Routerboard with some very interesting capabilities. Due to the size of the network, and the need to allow for separation of services, we decided to route the entire network. Allowing seamless mobility in this environment presents several unique challenges. First, we must allow the CPE device to connect to several APs, insure they do not connect to unknown APs AND make sure that we know the IP information as the device moves throughout the network. There are many ways we could have used to accomplish all of this (the Mikrotik is just that flexible). We ended up with the following solution, which allows the mobile unit to seamlessly move through the network, AND will connect to the strongest AP (it checks every 15 seconds). Mikrotik's scripting host was invaluable in this solution. The script checks the signal level of the currently active radio (there is a 2.4GHz AND a 900MHz radio in each CPE) and (if it is below acceptable levels), it will search for the strongest AP (on either radio), connect to that AP, then proceed to reconfigure the CPE so that it works on the network. Finally, the IPSEC tunnel (which is not implemented, yet) will be established and normal communications for the IP cams, laptop or whatever other equipment is located in the vehicle will resume. Our initial testing showed that the we could drive through town pinging the city hall's server and not drop more than 5-7 pings each time we switched APs. Testing will continue throughout the upcoming week and it is likely that we will have to tweak our configuration some. NOW, before some of you start pounding me for being part of a muni wifi network solution, let me ease your mind. The city owns this network, and they are allowing for access to the internet, but the city will not be selling the access (at least that is my understanding). I don't want to argue this point anyway. It will fall on deaf ears if any of you start it anyway. :-) I am not at liberty to provide much detail about the network at this time, but I wanted to share this much, as this is an exciting option that many of you may have searched for. I just wanted to let you know, that Mikrotik CAN BE CONFIGURED AS A MOBILE NETWORK! ;-) -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 http://www.butchevans.com/ Mikrotik Certified Consultant (http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming
Re: [WISPA] IP Cameras
Doesn't Trango sell 900 MHz PTZ cameras? -Richard M. - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] IP Cameras I don't think a camera with G built in is going to do any better than one of our typical G systems. But you could do some 900 PtP link into the ethernet of the cam and make a better shot at it than 2.4 George Ken Chipps wrote: Noise level is ok, but there is no under the trees due to the undergrowth. One of the points to the house location is to not be seen from the gate. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:52 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] IP Cameras That's just about what I've been able to do with a couple Hawking cheap corner reflector 15db antennae. But, you've got to shoot under the trees...that's the secret. And, hopefully, you're in a place where the noise level is not a factor. . . . j o n a t h a n Jonathan Schmidt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ken Chipps Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:30 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] IP Cameras While we are talking about wireless cameras I have a question related to this. I need a camera at my front gate so I can see who is there. The problem is the gate is 1/4 mile from the house. About half of this distance is through a stand of oak trees. Do you think any of these cameras would punch through that amount of tree cover? The camera and the receiver for it would be have to mounted right at the height of the thickest part of the trees. Ken Chipps -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gino A. Villarini Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:09 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] IP Cameras Panasonic has a nice outdoor rated PTZ IP cam with motion sensor for about $550 Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 11:05 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] IP Cameras I'm using one from Inscape Data. EC has them. I think I get it back tomorrow. It's been at a gas station taking video clips of someone using a stolen gas card. The guy's set to be arrested today. They've got him on cam 6 times in the last 2 or so weeks. The gas station is jazzed. It's interesting, the guy that's got it is NOT the guy that they just knew was using it! Good thing we had the cam. Next it'll be used in a town that's got someone (they think kids) taking wallets, cds, etc. from open cars. We're gonna set up in a building out on the street and set up a sting. This one has good resolution, a zoom lens, built in web server, audio and video, built in motion sensor (though it will false alarm in the dark), ethernet AND wireless. I paid about $500 for it. It's WELL worth the price. I have a $150 dlink cam too. It's got a decent picture but I never was able to get the dang thing to send pics to a server off site. I ended up just giving it away. The Inscape ones can be had with an outdoor enclosure and pan tilt zoom remote controls. I don't know exactly what those would add to the price. When I get it back I can set it up so you can view it if you'd like. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 12:32 AM Subject: [WISPA] IP Cameras Someone on these lists said they had inexpensive ip cams with motion detection and they paid like 140.00 for it. Anyone remember or know what camera? I'm looking for something like this, but in an outdoor enclosure. Thanks George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] Bragging on Mikrotik
How long is a ping? Isn't windows ping like 4 sec? 7 times 4 = 28 seconds. To me, (if my math is correct) 28 sec is frustrating, not seamless. Brian Paul Hendry wrote: Hi Butch, It was my understanding that using Mikrotik, EoIP, WDS and RSTP you could achieve a similar thing with only 1-2 ping drops per handoff between AP's at least that's what is being claimed by some on the MK forum. We are just about to test such a setup to facilitate a roaming VoIP solution so 5-7 ping failures is going to be too noticeable. Cheers, P. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: 04 September 2006 03:58 To: Equipment List Cc: Arnis Riekstins; Part-15 Mikrotik List; WISP List; Wispa List Subject: [WISPA] Bragging on Mikrotik I want to take this opportunity to share with these lists some things that we have recently done with a Mikrotik RouterOS based network. This may seem to some like blatant advertising, but it is certainly not intended to be that. Many of you have looked for a solution that will let you do some of the things that we now have working (testing is still underway) using pure Mikrotik network. The network is a 13 AP network (2.4GHz) that covers an entire city. There are a few small areas that do not currently have coverage, but these can be filled in easily as they are identified. The network was built by a small city in eastern OK (I won't go into detail here). The intent of the network was to provide for first responders with access to the internet as well as city resources. In addition to this, the city wanted to make the network available for internet access to the general public (I don't know the details, but my understanding is that local ISPs will handle this part). Obviously, we needed to make certain that the police, fire and EMS units had security from the rest of the network. We are handling this in several ways. Mikrotik has the ability to create what are called virtual APs (a virtual AP is a second AP, with the ability to use distinct access-lists as well as distinct security profiles from the physical radio card). That is to say, that the virtual AP acts like a second radio card but is, in reality, using only one physical radio card. At any rate, this virtual AP is being used for the city's network, while the other ISPs will be using their own virtual AP to provide their internet service. The police, fire and ambulance vehicles will be equipped with their own Mikrotik Routerboard with some very interesting capabilities. Due to the size of the network, and the need to allow for separation of services, we decided to route the entire network. Allowing seamless mobility in this environment presents several unique challenges. First, we must allow the CPE device to connect to several APs, insure they do not connect to unknown APs AND make sure that we know the IP information as the device moves throughout the network. There are many ways we could have used to accomplish all of this (the Mikrotik is just that flexible). We ended up with the following solution, which allows the mobile unit to seamlessly move through the network, AND will connect to the strongest AP (it checks every 15 seconds). Mikrotik's scripting host was invaluable in this solution. The script checks the signal level of the currently active radio (there is a 2.4GHz AND a 900MHz radio in each CPE) and (if it is below acceptable levels), it will search for the strongest AP (on either radio), connect to that AP, then proceed to reconfigure the CPE so that it works on the network. Finally, the IPSEC tunnel (which is not implemented, yet) will be established and normal communications for the IP cams, laptop or whatever other equipment is located in the vehicle will resume. Our initial testing showed that the we could drive through town pinging the city hall's server and not drop more than 5-7 pings each time we switched APs. Testing will continue throughout the upcoming week and it is likely that we will have to tweak our configuration some. NOW, before some of you start pounding me for being part of a muni wifi network solution, let me ease your mind. The city owns this network, and they are allowing for access to the internet, but the city will not be selling the access (at least that is my understanding). I don't want to argue this point anyway. It will fall on deaf ears if any of you start it anyway. :-) I am not at liberty to provide much detail about the network at this time, but I wanted to share this much, as this is an exciting option that many of you may have searched for. I just wanted to let you know, that Mikrotik CAN BE CONFIGURED AS A MOBILE NETWORK! ;-) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] MT on WAR
Different hardware architectures so I doubt it. As far as I know MK doesn't support Intel IXP-420 which is what the WAR's are. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: 06 September 2006 23:03 To: isp-wireless@isp-wireless.com; WISP; WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] MT on WAR Hi, I think someone (Brad?) posted this a while ago, and I don't know if there was ever a response or if I just missed it? Is it possible to put Mikrotik on the WAR 533mhz boards that Star-OS is selling? Has anyone done it? Thanks, Travis Microserv -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 05/09/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 05/09/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Bragging on Mikrotik
On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Paul Hendry wrote: It was my understanding that using Mikrotik, EoIP, WDS and RSTP you could achieve a similar thing with only 1-2 ping drops per handoff between AP's at least that's what is being claimed by some on the MK forum. We are just about to test such a setup to facilitate a roaming VoIP solution so 5-7 ping failures is going to be too noticeable. You can do this with the combinations you mentioned. The parameters I was given to work with made a routed network a better design choice. Some may argue that a huge outdoor bridge with many subs running on something like WDS is a good network architecture. I happen to disagree (and experience tells me that I am correct in my opinion). If you called me and asked me to build the VoIP solution you mentioned, then I would design the network around that need, although I would tell the people I was working for that there are going to be certain limitations to the network design. -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 http://www.butchevans.com/ Mikrotik Certified Consultant (http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html) -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
