Re: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...

2006-12-30 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Jeff Broadwick wrote: Hi Ryan, I realize this is somewhat tangential to your main point, but I wanted to point out that EIGRP/IGRP aren't standard protocols, nor will they work with any other router, necessarily. If you are shying away from proprietary equipment, Cisco's proprietary routing

Re: [WISPA] Cool ideas for RouterOS....

2006-12-30 Thread Pete Davis
I like those, and would like to probably implement them myself. Here are some of my ideas/wishlist. I would like to see the script equivalent of DenyHosts. [see http://denyhosts.sourceforge.net] whereas if password authentication fails (telnet, ssh, ftp) from the same outside IP 5 (or so)

Re: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...

2006-12-30 Thread Mike Ireton
Off the subject, but if you are a major operator then you are most certainly using cisco in your core, and eigrp is standard in cisco enviroments and makes sense if it's available to you. Like 802.1q and ISL - you could do 802.1q and interoperate, or just ISL and have the benefits of better

Re: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...

2006-12-30 Thread Carl A jeptha
NO, MY TOY. You can't have it. :o I am thinking of a summer Hotspot at our Marina and beach this year. You have a good day now,en mag jou more's ook so wees. Carl A Jeptha http://www.jeptha.com 905-349-2027 skype cajeptha Butch Evans wrote: On Fri, 29 Dec 2006, Carl A jeptha

Re: [WISPA] recommendation for Client POE integrated radiofor 802.11b/g

2006-12-30 Thread Scott Reed
I agree with Carl. I sold a CPE to the County Sherrif for their comm van. Gave them the SSIDs and WEP keys for my APs. Gave them the GPS coordinates for the APs. Gave them IP Addresses as needed for statically addressed POPs. Now in an emergency, if they can find one of our APs, they are

Re: [WISPA] Cool ideas for RouterOS....

2006-12-30 Thread Scott Reed
A little extension on one of these, WinBox sort on any field by clicking the header. Somewhat standard Windows operation. WinBox for Linux. Need a better way to clone CPEs. If I am building 15 CPEs today, I would like to be able to plug it in, push a configuration to it and have it ready

RE: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...

2006-12-30 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Hi Mike, Off the subject, but if you are a major operator then you are most certainly using cisco in your core, You might be surprised. That might have been true at one point, but probably is not now. :-) and eigrp is standard in cisco enviroments and makes sense if it's available to you.

Re: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...

2006-12-30 Thread Mike Ireton
Hi Jeff, Please don't get me started on imagestream... but anyways, the real stuff that really works - cisco - doesn't come in small form factor / extended temprature range and low power, is all I was saying. We use linux on Soekris with our own special blend (and 6mb) of linux for these

Re: [WISPA] Cool ideas for RouterOS....

2006-12-30 Thread Pete Davis
Scott Reed wrote: A little extension on one of these, WinBox sort on any field by clicking the header. Somewhat standard Windows operation. WinBox for Linux. I have run Winbox on WINE in Linux or in WINE on Linux. Whatever. Need a better way to clone CPEs. If I am building 15 CPEs

Re: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...

2006-12-30 Thread Dylan Oliver
Jeff, do you have a source for the statement that Cisco now recommends BGP (iBGP?) vs EIGRP? On 12/30/06, Jeff Broadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then it's not a standard, but a proprietary protocol. Actually, Cisco generally recommends BGP at this point and not EIGRP. Best, -- Dylan

Re: [WISPA] recommendation for Client POE integrated radio for 802.11b/g

2006-12-30 Thread Jason
I'm a Ham (a little out of practice maybe), and if my memory serves me, in an emergency, the HAM bands can be used however necessary, even by non-HAMs. However, organization is desirable, especially with large scale disasters like Katrina. Accessing someone's wireless router without

Re: [WISPA] capstan

2006-12-30 Thread Ron Wallace
Than ks Rick, What is the approx. cost? I have seen a couple that tower guys put together, but had trouble finding the parts. Ron Wallace Hahnron, Inc. 220 S. Jackson Dt. Addison, MI 49220 Phone: (517)547-8410 Mobile: (517)605-4542 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original

Re: [WISPA] Cool ideas for RouterOS....

2006-12-30 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
Keep a list of 'discovered' DHCP servers and their mac addresses in a table. Usually, the LAN mac address of the consumer routers is one off from the WAN mac address, so we should be able to quickly identify who has plugged their router in backwards. Mark Nash Network Engineer

[WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2006-12-30 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
I have usually used Trango backhauls, so I have not had to worry about 5 GHz antennas and what to choose. Now I'm going to try a MikroTik backhaul with a CM9. Currently, I've got two applications: 1. 2-mile link that I can perhaps use 5.3GHz over. 2. 8-mile link that I'll go 5.8GHz over.

Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2006-12-30 Thread Travis Johnson
The PacWireless dishes, panels and grids (depending on the gain you need, mounting, etc.) all work well. Also, you don't need to adjust the power settings in the MT... just leave it default, it works better. Travis Microserv Mark Nash - Lists wrote: I have usually used Trango backhauls, so I

RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2006-12-30 Thread Mac Dearman
Mark, I have several 8 mile 5.3GHz links (YMMV) using PacWireless 26dbi grids, MT CM9's. IMHO you can't go wrong using the PacWireless antennas. I have built a wireless network that covers 12% of Louisiana utilizing their antennas exclusively for my BH. Well - I do have several of the Trango

Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2006-12-30 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
Are we preferring their grids to dishes? Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent:

RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2006-12-30 Thread Mac Dearman
I do use their dishes where I have a large enough tower, water tower or a roof. I will tell ya though - - the 29dbi grids are mighty fine, much less expensive than a solid dish, wind load is no comparison as well as the ease of mounting. If you are leasing tower space - - the grid is a no brainer

Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2006-12-30 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
Thanks Mac and Travis... This does sound like a no-brainer. How about a 12-mile link with 5.3 or 5.8? Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL

RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2006-12-30 Thread Gino A. Villarini
You can use 5.3 with 28db dishes and your tx set to 3 - 4 db power, that would give you a expected rsss of -75, good if the area is clean of noise. Or do 5.8 full power and expect a -63 using cm9 cards Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax

RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2006-12-30 Thread Mac Dearman
I have several 18 20 mile links using the MT RB532/SR5 w/Pacwireless Dish on one side and a 26dbi (was out of 29dbi) with complete success Mac Dearman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006

Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2006-12-30 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
I'm assuming this is 5.8, not 5.3, right? Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent:

Re: [WISPA] Cool ideas for RouterOS....

2006-12-30 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
How about the ability to place a customer name in the ACL for non-RouterOS CPEs? Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Wispa

Re: [WISPA] Cool ideas for RouterOS....

2006-12-30 Thread Butch Evans
On Sat, 30 Dec 2006, Mark Nash - Lists wrote: How about the ability to place a customer name in the ACL for non-RouterOS CPEs? Like this? / interface wireless access-list add mac-address=00:11:F5:62:4E:F6 interface=wirelesshotspot \ authentication=yes forwarding=no \ comment=Butch

Re: [WISPA] Cool ideas for RouterOS....

2006-12-30 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
This puts an extra line on the list for each customer, right? Mark Nash Network Engineer UnwiredOnline.Net 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List

RE: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2006-12-30 Thread Mark McElvy
I have a 13 mi like using MT / CM-9' and 32db dishes, got them from DoubleRadius. I am not sure of the brand. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nash - Lists Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2006 1:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject:

Re: [WISPA] Cool ideas for RouterOS....

2006-12-30 Thread Butch Evans
On Sat, 30 Dec 2006, Mark Nash - Lists wrote: This puts an extra line on the list for each customer, right? Yes. In the registration table, you can't add comments. If a customer radio is in the access-list with a comment, that comment is added to the entry above their registration. --

Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2006-12-30 Thread George Rogato
Nice thing about the wire grids from pac, you can just buy new 5 gig feedhorns. I'm sure there are plenty of grids hanging around. George Mac Dearman wrote: I have several 18 20 mile links using the MT RB532/SR5 w/Pacwireless Dish on one side and a 26dbi (was out of 29dbi) with complete

Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2006-12-30 Thread Tim Kerns
Mac, Have PacWireless made any changes to the mount on the 29db grids... I have 4 in use and the mount isn't very solid. The grid deflects a lot in the wind. I can watch the signal go up and down as it moves. Tim Kerns CV-Access, Inc. - Original Message - From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2006-12-30 Thread Scott Reed
Is it the mount or the grid itself. I haven't noticed it with the mount, but I know moving the wire grids around they will deflect. Get a couple of the die-cast ones if you don't have any and see if they are better. Tim Kerns wrote: Mac, Have PacWireless made any changes to the mount on

Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2006-12-30 Thread Tim Kerns
The die cast would be stronger... the issue is the mount only makes contact at the 3 screws to the grid, this allows the grid to flex and move in the wind. On a 2.4 feed horn the square tube has a U shape clamp that ties the grid and feed horn to the mount making it stronger. I spoke to support

Re: [WISPA] Cool ideas for RouterOS....

2006-12-30 Thread rabbtux rabbtux
Butch, I really like your third application here. I use PFsense for a traffic shaper and am new to MT. Can't figure out how to get queues to change after a sub downloads X mb in a day. On 12/29/06, Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to throw this out for the weekend. I want to

RE: [WISPA] Cool ideas for RouterOS....

2006-12-30 Thread CHUCK PROFITO
How about a splash page stored in the flash card for the hot spot. And maybe a bar inserted in web browsing to a specific customer ip. Like a friendly reminder to call the credit department or Guido -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pete

RE: [WISPA] TRUCKPC

2006-12-30 Thread Ralph
I was on the way to one of our remote towers today and was on the interstate next to two US Express trucks. I turned on a sniffer to see if they also had access points on them, but there was nothing. I guess they just scan, looking for free wireless to use. Being bored with the drive, I was

[WISPA] More Saturday Musings- Another (older) Truck-PC type

2006-12-30 Thread Ralph
Hi Matt- Back in my old Net-Stumbler days (back when you could drive across Atlanta and see less than 20 Access Points, and 2 were my own), the experimenters of the day became perplexed by this SSID that kept popping up at random times. It was an Access Point named SST-PR-1 The first time I saw

[WISPA] WTB: Ethernet to DS3 converters

2006-12-30 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Offlist if anyone has them available Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:

Re: [WISPA] Cool ideas for RouterOS....

2006-12-30 Thread Butch Evans
On Sat, 30 Dec 2006, Pete Davis wrote: I would like to see the script equivalent of DenyHosts. [see http://denyhosts.sourceforge.net] whereas if password authentication fails (telnet, ssh, ftp) from the same outside IP 5 (or so) times in a row, that IP gets dynamically added to the

RE: [WISPA] StarOS or Microtik with TRCPQ clients...

2006-12-30 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Hi Dylan, I should have said OSPF instead of BGP...sorry about that. That said, I don't know that I can find a document on Cisco's Web site saying Don't use EIGRP if that's what you want, since the comments came from Cisco engineers and not some Web document. Cisco, from a marketing standpoint,

Re: [WISPA] TRUCKPC

2006-12-30 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, Why would this company pay for WiFi access when they are now getting all the access they need for free? It's actually a great idea... have the trucks scan all the time and once they find an open AP, connect and upload all their info. Travis Microserv Ralph wrote: I was on the way to

Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2006-12-30 Thread Lawrence E. Bakst
1. Does anyone have any experience with the XtremeWave MPR Series from PCTEL/MaxRad? 2. Can anyone comapre the PacWireless offerings to the XtremeWave MPR Series? I suspect the MPR's are more expensive/ 3. Some of the MPR's have side lobes that make alignment challenging. In this case we

Re: [WISPA] 5.3/5.8 GHz Antenna Suggestion

2006-12-30 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, Having personally aligned many, many 2ft and 3ft dishes at 5.3ghz - 5.8ghz, I can say that I have never actually found a "side lobe" with any of our links. The signal starts low and goes up as we find center, and then slowly drops down on the other side. The only links I have ever