On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:30:10 -0800, Jack Unger wrote
Mark,
I agree completely with your closing sentiment that Everything we
do should be aimed at providing ourselves protection from being
wiped out due to pressure from Congress or the Big Boys. I don't
however understand your beef with
On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 23:57:15 -0800, George Rogato wrote
I LIKE it :)
I've gotten a bunch... well, HECK, every last customer is from word of
mouth and lately we're growing as fast as we can fund it.
Not really fast enough, though.
I plan on some serious marketing come the end of this school
On Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:43:12 -0800, Marlon K. Schafer wrote
Hi All,
Forbes asked a good question. I didn't know the answer so I shot
his note off to the FCC's 477 director. Here's the entire conversation:
- Original Message -
From: Ellen Burton
To: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL
Kris Twomey wanted to remind everyone that FCC Form 477 is due today.
Thanks. I know some of you have been spreading the word on the FCC Form 477.
It's due tomorrow and all WISPs should be filing it. It'll only take 10
minutes to fill out but the info is vital for the FCC to know that the WISP
Jack, I guess I sorta dropped the ball here. I just assumed you'd read the
same thing between the lines I did. The sway-ability of the FCC with just
ONE letter from ONE Senator is very disconcerting.
Great point. All wisps need to write to their senator and tell them
what wisps need.
Don't think it made it to the isp-wireless list
George
Rick Harnish wrote:
Kris Twomey wanted to remind everyone that FCC Form 477 is due today.
Thanks. I know some of you have been spreading the word on the FCC Form 477.
It's due tomorrow and all WISPs should be filing it. It'll only take
Mark,
Since you seem to watch what happens in DC and dislike it, have you
managed to pick up on the fact that the small guy usually does not have
any sway in DC?
How does a group whose very existence depends on the benevolence of the
FCC tell the FCC off?
DC is about give a lot, get a
I don't have any issues with the way DC works, but I disagree with the
statement that it is not possible to lobby for Regulate them, not Me.
It already exists today, with the Small Business Set Aside or 8A programs
being a perfect example. Minority or Disadvantaged companies get special
Someone give me a hand here please.
I have a contract to deliver 10Mbps dedicated bandwidth to a hospital as
well as building them a leased wireless network for the hospital to 6 off
site buildings. All of these buildings (but 1) are with in rock throwing
distance of the Hospital. I am looking
I got a smile out of that one. The thing is that this kind of talk happens
CONSTANTLY...We just don't know WHERE. If your service (bandwidth, billing,
lack of/response to outages) is good, this conversation happens about your
company at least weekly if not daily.
Mark Nash
Network Engineer
Mac,
You need to talk to Mike Cowan at Wireless Connections. He can help you
with many aspects of this and includes his pre-sales engineering as part
of doing business. I highly recommend talking to him. We use him for all
of our pre-sales engineering and support. Obviously we buy our Alvarion
Thanks John! I will call him now and tell him you shipped me that direction.
WELCOME BACK COTTER! ( Scriv)
Mac Dearman
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of John Scrivner
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 11:17 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject:
Tom DeReggi wrote:
I don't have any issues with the way DC works, but I disagree with the
statement that it is not possible to lobby for Regulate them, not Me.
You can disagree all you want, but history in telecom since 1996 proves
that this strategy doesn't work.
There was a CompTel
Mac,
I understand you spoke to Les today. Made me smile for sure. Thanks also
for sharing the story about Michael Eck helping during Karina. He is a
humble guy and I've never heard him mention it.
The BreezeACCESS VL can certainly do what you want there. An AU,
especially at those ranges should
I am sure Patrick would be the appropriate person to provide you with the
details.
However, if it helps, the quick short answer to your questions is
YES,.You could put the AP on the Hospital, and feed it with a SU on your
tower. Not the normal way to set this up, but technically possible.
Remember that the 30 mbps are hdx, if you are selling 10 mbps dedicated,
the customer might expect 10 fdx, so that consumes 20 mbps or so of your
ap data rate. Leaving just 10 Mbps for the other subscribers wich are
connected to tha same AU, so those 10 mbps become actually 5 or less
Gino
Is anyone using external batteries on the larger APC UPS's? I've got an
old Smart-UPS 3000 RM that has 8 x 12v batteries in it. The thing is
they are wired in a bit of a strange config. It looks to me like they
are split into 4 sets of 2 batteries running in series then 2 of those
sets are
I'm in a rabble rousing mood today so I vote that if you don't fill out your
Form 477 you are OUT of WISPA right after you got kicked out already for not
have all stickers on your equipment.
Stiring the Pot just for fun,
Forbes Mercy
President - Washington Broadband, Inc
the hazard of
I think your right.
I know I work hard and spend a lot of money trying to get the good word
out there.
It sure beats having a customer call up saying wireless sucks.
George
Mark Nash wrote:
I got a smile out of that one. The thing is that this kind of talk happens
CONSTANTLY...We just
Forbes Mercy wrote:
I'm in a rabble rousing mood today so I vote that if you don't fill out your Form 477 you are OUT of WISPA right after you got kicked out already for not have all stickers on your equipment.
Stiring the Pot just for fun,
Forbes Mercy
President - Washington Broadband, Inc
He ain't lying. I just filled out my first ever 477 and it took exactly
10 minutes. I filled in like 15 fields and hit send. I might have
don't it wrong but oh well. At least I did it.
Brian
Rick Harnish wrote:
Kris Twomey wanted to remind everyone that FCC Form 477 is due today.
Hi i have 2 offices that i have to connect to do this i nedd to use the
3 points between them
Office1-- P1--P2--P3--Office2
do any of you know what equipments can connect without using too many
products for example to do that with cisco 1300 wireless
bridges i need to use 8 radios and i want
On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, Carlos A. Garcia G wrote:
do any of you know what equipments can connect without using too
many products for example to do that with cisco 1300 wireless
bridges i need to use 8 radios and i want to use 5
Office-- -P1--P2--P3- --Office2
There are a few of these types of
jejeje only need 64k link so the bandwidth will not be the problem
Butch Evans escribió:
On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, Carlos A. Garcia G wrote:
do any of you know what equipments can connect without using too many
products for example to do that with cisco 1300 wireless bridges i
need to use 8 radios
17 pages of instructions and no where does it include the address, fax or email
to return the Form 477. Where did you guys send it and how did you send the
'required signed' by email?
Forbes
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George
In the upper right side of the form is says send to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I didn't sign anything. I just filled out the few fields I understood
and hit send.
Brian
Forbes Mercy wrote:
17 pages of instructions and no where does it include the address, fax or email to return the Form 477.
The time is not filling out the form, its compiling the data to put into it
:-)
That took me two hours.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
- Original Message -
From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
BRIAN,
We always fill it out, print it, sign it, scan it and then send it.
Mac
_
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 2:32 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Form 477 Due Today
In the
Guys,
It's pretty late for this in EST but for those in the West coast:
Page 14 of the Instructions for the Signed statement form
Page 11 of the same doc for the instructions on where to send and how.
Go here for it, though I suppose everyone already has it:
Oh well, better I did something than nothing like the last time.
Brian
Mac Dearman wrote:
BRIAN,
We always fill it out, print it, sign it, scan it and then send it.
Mac
_
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
Sent: Thursday,
As long as we're in a mood today.
Have you gotten those signal levels for me yet?
And I need my radio back for an install booked for tomorrow. I'm totally
out of long and short range kits again!
6 or 7 installs on the books for the next two days! Hhhlll lol
marlon
- Original
I've never signed mine. Just emailed it.
marlon
- Original Message -
From: Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Form 477 Due Today
Oh well, better I did something than nothing like
Patrick,
Thanks for that info - I appreciate it much.
What I am trying to accomplish is (kill a bunch of birds with one stone)
connect these 5 remote locations via wireless to the hospital (AU located
here) and then use the 6th SU on my tower (1 mile LOS) to provide 10mbps of
dedicated
Gino,
I think the AU is 54mbps hdx
Mac Dearman
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Gino Villarini
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 12:32 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] ALVARION VL 4.0 AP
Remember that the 30 mbps are hdx,
I see no challenge to this whatsoever Mac. My main question would simply
be where the locations are relative to the base station sector. Think of
the base station being in the center of a clock, are the locations of
tower and the 5 remotes within the same 3 hours (90 degrees) or 4
hours (120
Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
I've never signed mine. Just emailed it.
Technically, then, it's not considered filed. You have to either mail
or fax the Certification Statement (i.e. page 14 of the instructions),
in addition to either emailing or snail-mailing a floppy or CD with the
spreadsheet.
I thought it was pretty cool - - that you get a choice of 90* or 120* sector
with the AU!
Mac Dearman
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Patrick Leary
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 4:04 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA]
And you could use a 60 or even an omni (but only should rarely and
appropriately). Our Web site provides a full list of FCC-certified third
party antenna combinations showing the brand and part number of the
brand (these are sourced not from us).
Patrick Leary
AVP WISP Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
o:
On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, Carlos A. Garcia G wrote:
jejeje only need 64k link so the bandwidth will not be the problem
In that case, I'd just use a simple WDS setup. It's the
easiest/cheapest thing to do. Just be sure that the APs are secured
(to prevent unauthorized access to the network from
Oh god here we go again with a ton of emails saying we are breaking the law. I
have never signed mine and the FCC has gladly accepted past filings. I think
the FCC would rather just have something filed and since they are all lawyers
do seek more then some are willing to give but with a
do u think that this can be done with cisco 1400 wireless bridge someone
has used this one?
Butch Evans escribió:
On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, Carlos A. Garcia G wrote:
jejeje only need 64k link so the bandwidth will not be the problem
In that case, I'd just use a simple WDS setup. It's the
One thing I am wondering about, and it's not an Alvarion specific
question or concern is, isn't it true that when you use a subscriber
unit as your backhaul on a PtMP set up like you are suggesting, that the
through put is halved or somewhat diminished?
Thought this was a long standing rule
I'm surprised no one has complained about their use of Microsoft Excel.
Form 477 does not work with OpenOffice. They sent me a PDF to fill out
instead.
-Matt
Forbes Mercy wrote:
Oh god here we go again with a ton of emails saying we are breaking the law. I
have never signed mine and the
Matt Liotta wrote:
I'm surprised no one has complained about their use of Microsoft
Excel. Form 477 does not work with OpenOffice. They sent me a PDF to
fill out instead.
Microsoft Office, while not necessarily the best software, is a /de
facto/ standard, and keeping a copy around is, I'd
In the early 90's the FCC set about to create additional unlicensed and
licensed spectrum. This was specifically for PCS, or personal
communications services.
UTAM was created and tasked with the job of migrating what was then a large
network of terrestrial microwave networks to other
On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 20:37:53 -0500, Matt Liotta wrote
I'm surprised no one has complained about their use of Microsoft
Excel. Form 477 does not work with OpenOffice. They sent me a PDF to
fill out instead.
I complained to the list at the first filing date, which got me a
revised .xls which
Carlos, if you put Cisco AP1242's in Nema boxes, you can alternate 2.4 and 5.8
GHz, thus using only 5 radios.
John
-Original Message-
From: Carlos A. Garcia G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2007 11:40 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] Some opinions
Hi i
1400's are way too expensive to even consider for this.
John
-Original Message-
From: Carlos A. Garcia G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2007 05:23 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Some opinions
do u think that this can be done with cisco 1400 wireless
Some wireless business phone systems have been built, but it is all but
impossible to find, if you search for u-pcs specific products.
Search for a different name: PHS. It was fascinating to walk the streets of
Tokyo and see crowded areas where hundreds of people would be talking on their
Brilliant - standards building as a means of disabling US access to
technology innovation. Wow. I certainly hope you have vision enough to
see and thwart this type of activity in the future. I have heard you
have the intellectual knowledge to do so. Please let us know when to cry
foul in the
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