Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update

2007-03-15 Thread Jack Unger

Ray,

Congratulations on the sudden positive change in WalMarts behavior. 
Please keep us updated. If any wireless issues or questions come up 
during discussions with their engineer please post those questions or 
issues.


Thanks,
jack


Ray  Jean wrote:

Hello Everyone
Wanted to update you on our walmart rfid problem.We spent hours on monday 
trying to talk to someone on their rfid deployment team,we finally made contact.
We were informed that it used the whole spectrum,had to run at full 
power and used circular polarity.They stated they were operating within 
the legal limits and
could not change anything to help with our interference problem.I ask if 
they could turn off their equipment for 30 days to give us a chance to 
relocate to a new site.
They agreed to two weeks which suprised me.When they turned it off all 
of our links instantly went back to working including the one inside 
their store
at the eye doctors office.We start looking for a new site and equipment 
to install on it.
Well today walmart calls us and say they want to work with us on the 
problem and they are sending a engineer to this store to check for a 
possible
rogue piece of equipment and possibly trying to place some type of 
schielding between them and us IF we will QUIT posting info about this 
problem
on broadband reports forum.I am amazed that they changed their whole 
attitude because of a little bad pr.
Maybe we will be able to find a solution to the problem now that they 
seem willing to cooperate.Again thanks to everone who offered their 
advice on the situation.

Ray Hill
surfmore.net


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[WISPA] Google to Adopt New Privacy Measures

2007-03-15 Thread Jack Unger



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20070314/google-privacy


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[WISPA] New WISPA Principal Member - Webjogger Internet Services

2007-03-15 Thread John Scrivner
Many thanks to Mario Pommier of Webjogger Internet Services for making 
the step up to membership in WISPA. We appreciate you and all others 
like you who have recognized that through your dues and your time that 
you can help be an active part in building a better future for our 
industry. Thank you Mario. Here is a little bit of information about 
Mario and Webjogger:


Founded in 1997, Webjogger has been providing Internet service to 
customers in the Hudson Valley for 10 years. Webjogger services range 
from traditional Internet services (dialup and webhosting) to robust 
broadband connectivity solutions (highspeed wireless Internet and fully 
secure VPN connectivity using wireless point-to-point and 
point-to-multipoint technologies); from datacenter services (managed 
server colocation and online offsite backups) to advanced network 
consulting (routing and switching design and implementation).


Webjogger is owned and operated by experienced, knowledgeable, 
customer-focused individuals who know that researching and developing 
new technologies and deploying well-engineered solutions goes hand in 
hand with listening to our customers in order to fulfill their real needs.


Thanks.

Mario

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Re: [WISPA] New WISPA Vendor Member - ValuePoint Networks

2007-03-15 Thread Tim Wolfe

I'll second that one!, Welcome to WISPA!!!


Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:

Welcome!

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Subject: [WISPA] New WISPA Vendor Member - ValuePoint Networks


Please welcome another new WISPA Vendor Member - ValuePoint Networks. 
For many of us the challenge of meeting the goals of delivering the 
hotspot, hospitality, MDU and Muni Wi-Fi markets is a bit outside our 
normal realm. We are used to owning our infrastructure and selling 
Internet connections to a fixed customer base. The model of the Wi-Fi 
hotspot is now becoming a bigger part of our business. I am glad to 
see ValuePoint come on board with WISPA to help us meet these 
challenges and add these revenue opportunities to our bottom line. I 
know I am getting more requests every day from restaurants, hotels, 
city government, etc. to deliver solutions to them. I plan to call on 
ValuePoint for help in these areas of expertise and hope you will do 
the same. Here is a little information from David Grissom of ValuePoint:



ValuePoint Networks supports hundreds of service and solution 
providers world-wide by providing a complete line of rugged, 
powerful, and highly reliable wireless products designed with the 
solution provider in mind. Simply put, ValuePoint's products do the 
job the others cannot, and for a price the others cannot match.


Founded in 2002 to develop products designed specifically for 
hotspots and other public access venues, ValuePoint has quickly 
become a leader in this burgeoning space, and has expanded into other 
markets as well, such as industrial, WISP, MTU/MDU, and municipalities.


With Rugged Access Points, Advanced Gateway Controllers, and Mesh 
Routers, shipping since early 2003, ValuePoint Networks' products are 
deployed today in thousands of venues around the world.


Hotels, marinas, shopping malls, RV parks, MTUs, MDUs, and virtually 
every imaginable location are operated using ValuePoint Networks' 
renowned SuperAP, MultiAP, SuperMesh, and Gateway Controller products.


ValuePoint offers our customers superior solutions at much lower 
price points, thereby minimizing your up-front capital investment.


About Me:

David A. Grissom

25 years in computer networking industry

First half doing integration (Sytek(acquired by Hughes) and 
co-founded Cohesive Systems(acquired by Exodus). Second half building 
products (Wind River and ValuePoint Networks) 5 years building Wi-Fi 
(ValuePoint Networks)

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RE: [WISPA] clock

2007-03-15 Thread Mark McElvy
The Outlook calendar tool works for stand-alone or Exchange connected
according to the MS website. There is also a tool to update the Exchange
calendar from the server side.

Mark 


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Outlook with Exchange Server is different, as opposed to Outlook by
itself.

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
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There is a fix for Outlook also, you have to dl and run an app.

Mark McElvy
AccuBak Data Systems, Inc.


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Tom,

I think your PC or laptop clock is off.
Did you ever reset or patch for Daylight Savings time this past Sunday
AM?

BTW, did anyone notice that recurring outlook appointments were messed 
up with the new DST?

- Peter
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RE: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update

2007-03-15 Thread Jeff Broadwick
That rocks!  Great work! 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ray  Jean
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:33 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update

Hello Everyone
Wanted to update you on our walmart rfid problem.We spent hours on monday
trying to talk to someone on their rfid deployment team,we finally made
contact.We were informed that it used the whole spectrum,had to run at full
power and used circular polarity.They stated they were operating within the
legal limits and could not change anything to help with our interference
problem.I ask if they could turn off their equipment for 30 days to give us
a chance to relocate to a new site.They agreed to two weeks which suprised
me.When they turned it off all of our links instantly went back to working
including the one inside their store at the eye doctors office.We start
looking for a new site and equipment to install on it.Well today walmart
calls us and say they want to work with us on the problem and they are
sending a engineer to this store to check for a possible rogue piece of
equipment and possibly trying to place some type of schielding between them
and us IF we will QUIT posting info about this problem on broadband reports
forum.I am amazed that they changed their whole attitude because of a little
bad pr.Maybe we will be able to find a solution to the problem now that they
seem willing to cooperate.Again thanks to everone who offered their advice
on the situation.
Ray Hill
surfmore.net
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Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update

2007-03-15 Thread Bob Moldashel

That's great Ray

Can you post the contact info here in case someone else runs into this 
issue??


Thanks and good luck with them

Bob


Ray  Jean wrote:


Hello Everyone
Wanted to update you on our walmart rfid problem.We spent hours on monday 
trying to talk to someone on their rfid deployment team,we finally made 
contact.We were informed that it used the whole spectrum,had to run at full 
power and used circular polarity.They stated they were operating within the 
legal limits and could not change anything to help with our interference 
problem.I ask if they could turn off their equipment for 30 days to give us a 
chance to relocate to a new site.They agreed to two weeks which suprised 
me.When they turned it off all of our links instantly went back to working 
including the one inside their store at the eye doctors office.We start looking 
for a new site and equipment to install on it.Well today walmart calls us and 
say they want to work with us on the problem and they are sending a engineer to 
this store to check for a possible rogue piece of equipment and possibly trying 
to place some type of schielding between them and us IF we will QUIT posting 
info about this problem on broadband reports forum.I am amazed that they 
changed their whole attitude because of a little bad pr.Maybe we will be able 
to find a solution to the problem now that they seem willing to cooperate.Again 
thanks to everone who offered their advice on the situation.
Ray Hill
surfmore.net
 



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[WISPA] SecureServer.Net Arbitrary Blocking

2007-03-15 Thread Kelly Shaw
Surely I cannot be the only one out there with this problem with
secureserver.net and their arbitrary blocking scheme.
 
We've been getting customer complaints that their email is being rejected
with something like:
Dynamic pool 12.xx.xx.xx. http://unblock.secureserver.net/?ip=12.xx.xx.*

We don't have a spamming problem and work actively to get our customer's
virus-ridden machines cleaned up. We also are not listed in any Real Time
Blacklists, yet they still have us blocked.

Emails to their service go unanswered.

One reponse they gave to one of our customers was that they were using an
improper reverse DNS entry.  Yet, their forward and reverse DNS entries
match and are self explanatory.

Am I the only one dealing with these crazy people?

Kelly Shaw
Pure Internet
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[WISPA] anyone see this?

2007-03-15 Thread Matt Liotta

http://gigaom.com/2007/03/14/why-did-level-3-turn-off-a-rural-isp/
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RE: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update

2007-03-15 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
Please let us know what you end up doing to resolve the problem, we have
wal-marts in 2 of our towns and we run 900. I'm sure it is coming

Mike Bushard, Jr
Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC
320-256-WISP (9477)
320-256-9478 Fax
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ray  Jean
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 11:33 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update

Hello Everyone
Wanted to update you on our walmart rfid problem.We spent hours on monday
trying to talk to someone on their rfid deployment team,we finally made
contact.We were informed that it used the whole spectrum,had to run at full
power and used circular polarity.They stated they were operating within the
legal limits and could not change anything to help with our interference
problem.I ask if they could turn off their equipment for 30 days to give us
a chance to relocate to a new site.They agreed to two weeks which suprised
me.When they turned it off all of our links instantly went back to working
including the one inside their store at the eye doctors office.We start
looking for a new site and equipment to install on it.Well today walmart
calls us and say they want to work with us on the problem and they are
sending a engineer to this store to check for a possible rogue piece of
equipment and possibly trying to place some type of schielding between them
and us IF we will QUIT posting info about this problem on broadband reports
forum.I am amazed that they changed their whole attitude because of a little
bad pr.Maybe we will be able to find a solution to the problem now that they
seem willing to cooperate.Again thanks to everone who offered their advice
on the situation.
Ray Hill
surfmore.net
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Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update

2007-03-15 Thread Ryan Morgan

Dylan,

Wal-mart found out about the post on www.dslreports.com on their own. It 
was a news topic on the main page that pointed to the forum thread. 
There was really nothing negative mentioned in the topic( well one thing 
, but more of a last resort kind of fix ), rather trying to get some 
information about getting away from the interference. They may take it 
as bad pr though.



Thanks,

Ryan



Dylan Oliver wrote:

Congratulations on the change of heart you've found in Walmart. Did you
happen to mention to them that you were posting complaints about their
system in the Broadband Reports Forums, or did they discover this
themselves? They must (or should) have a search appliance dedicated to
sniffing out the first malodorous whiffs of bad press.

Now it's time, as RickG suggests, for the good PR. This thread is a 
start,

as it's every bit as searchable as the forums!

Best,


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Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update

2007-03-15 Thread Ray Jean
I did not mention broadband reports,they found it on their own.I was unaware 
that one of our partners was posting there asking for input on the 
problem.They didnt mention this thread,maybe haven't discovered it yet.We 
sure were relieved when they called and acted sincere about resolving the 
problem.I will post the contact info here when we meet with their rep.That 
way if the problem shows up in your neighborhood you will know who to call 
without spending days trying to get to the right person.Never underestimate 
the power of the internet or press.

Thanks
Ray Hill
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Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update



Congratulations on the change of heart you've found in Walmart. Did you
happen to mention to them that you were posting complaints about their
system in the Broadband Reports Forums, or did they discover this
themselves? They must (or should) have a search appliance dedicated to
sniffing out the first malodorous whiffs of bad press.

Now it's time, as RickG suggests, for the good PR. This thread is a start,
as it's every bit as searchable as the forums!

Best,
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Primaverity, LLC
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[WISPA] white space

2007-03-15 Thread Peter R.

http://gigaom.com/2007/03/13/white-space-broadband/

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[WISPA] Towerstream Miami

2007-03-15 Thread Peter R.

Towerstream launched its wireless broadband service in Miami metropolitan
area. This is company's its eighth fixed WiMAX network in the U.S. -
previous cities include New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, Seattle Boston, San
Francisco and Providence/Newport. A map of the regions covered by
Towerstream's service is here.
http://gigaom.com/2007/03/13/towerstream-wimax-now-in-miami/

Thank you.

Regards,

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Re: [WISPA] Towerstream Miami

2007-03-15 Thread George Rogato

What frequency is their wimax?


Peter R. wrote:

Towerstream launched its wireless broadband service in Miami metropolitan
area. This is company's its eighth fixed WiMAX network in the U.S. -
previous cities include New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, Seattle Boston, San
Francisco and Providence/Newport. A map of the regions covered by
Towerstream's service is here.
http://gigaom.com/2007/03/13/towerstream-wimax-now-in-miami/

Thank you.

Regards,

Peter Radizeski
RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist
We Help ISPs Connect  Communicate
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Re: [WISPA] Towerstream Miami

2007-03-15 Thread Matt Liotta

George Rogato wrote:

What frequency is their wimax?

5.8Ghz Aperto equipment, so WiMAX may be a strong statement.

-Matt

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RE: [WISPA] Towerstream Miami

2007-03-15 Thread Patrick Leary
This is just the press talking and they are beginning to call all
wireless broadband WiMAX. It is just like the old days when all the
press started calling anything using UL bands Wi-Fi.
 
Patrick Leary
AVP WISP Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243
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Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 8:32 AM
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What frequency is their wimax?


Peter R. wrote:
 Towerstream launched its wireless broadband service in Miami
metropolitan
 area. This is company's its eighth fixed WiMAX network in the U.S. -
 previous cities include New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, Seattle
Boston, San
 Francisco and Providence/Newport. A map of the regions covered by
 Towerstream's service is here.
 http://gigaom.com/2007/03/13/towerstream-wimax-now-in-miami/
 
 Thank you.
 
 Regards,
 
 Peter Radizeski
 RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist
 We Help ISPs Connect  Communicate
 813.963.5884  efax 530-323-7025
 http://4isps.com
 
 
 
 
 

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RE: [WISPA] Towerstream Miami

2007-03-15 Thread Patrick Leary
Aperto and Alvarion.

Patrick

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George Rogato wrote:
 What frequency is their wimax?
5.8Ghz Aperto equipment, so WiMAX may be a strong statement.

-Matt

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RE: [WISPA] Towerstream Miami

2007-03-15 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
Isn't the Miami stuff VL??? I thought I heard that anyway.

Mike Bushard, Jr
Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC
320-256-WISP (9477)
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Aperto and Alvarion.

Patrick

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George Rogato wrote:
 What frequency is their wimax?
5.8Ghz Aperto equipment, so WiMAX may be a strong statement.

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Re: [WISPA] Towerstream Miami

2007-03-15 Thread Peter R.

At least I can understand that differentiation.
Every show has a Wireless proponent. To me that means either wi-fi or 
fixed wireless.
To people that should know better, it usually means the discussion will 
focus on cellular or EVDO.

Annoying.

- Peter


Patrick Leary wrote:


This is just the press talking and they are beginning to call all
wireless broadband WiMAX. It is just like the old days when all the
press started calling anything using UL bands Wi-Fi.

Patrick Leary
AVP WISP Markets
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RE: [WISPA] Towerstream Miami

2007-03-15 Thread Patrick Leary
Not sure actually. Most TS networks had been Aperto. VL, being OFDM, and
now with v4.0 (which makes throughput availability stable regardless of
packet size) as well as the 10MHz channels is something that TS finds
attractive.

Patrick Leary
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Vonage: 650.641.1243
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Isn't the Miami stuff VL??? I thought I heard that anyway.

Mike Bushard, Jr
Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC
320-256-WISP (9477)
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Aperto and Alvarion.

Patrick

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George Rogato wrote:
 What frequency is their wimax?
5.8Ghz Aperto equipment, so WiMAX may be a strong statement.

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Re: [WISPA] white space

2007-03-15 Thread Joe Laura
Im suprised I do not see Earthlink's name in all of this. Interesting. 
Superior Wireless
New Orleans,La.
www.superior1.com
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 http://gigaom.com/2007/03/13/white-space-broadband/
 
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Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update

2007-03-15 Thread Ryan Langseth

For those that have walmarts in their area, I would suggest starting
talking to them ahead of time, you may be able it prevent the same
problem from happening on your towers.  I would bet all walmarts will
start using rfid's in the next couple of years.
 
Ryan
On Thu, 2007-03-15 at 09:41 -0500, Ray  Jean wrote:
 I did not mention broadband reports,they found it on their own.I was unaware 
 that one of our partners was posting there asking for input on the 
 problem.They didnt mention this thread,maybe haven't discovered it yet.We 
 sure were relieved when they called and acted sincere about resolving the 
 problem.I will post the contact info here when we meet with their rep.That 
 way if the problem shows up in your neighborhood you will know who to call 
 without spending days trying to get to the right person.Never underestimate 
 the power of the internet or press.
 Thanks
 Ray Hill
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 - Original Message - 
 From: Dylan Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:02 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update
 
 
  Congratulations on the change of heart you've found in Walmart. Did you
  happen to mention to them that you were posting complaints about their
  system in the Broadband Reports Forums, or did they discover this
  themselves? They must (or should) have a search appliance dedicated to
  sniffing out the first malodorous whiffs of bad press.
 
  Now it's time, as RickG suggests, for the good PR. This thread is a start,
  as it's every bit as searchable as the forums!
 
  Best,
  -- 
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RE: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update

2007-03-15 Thread Mark McElvy
Is it only a concern for 900 Mhz?

Mark McElvy
AccuBak Data Systems, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ryan Langseth
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 11:01 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update


For those that have walmarts in their area, I would suggest starting
talking to them ahead of time, you may be able it prevent the same
problem from happening on your towers.  I would bet all walmarts will
start using rfid's in the next couple of years.
 
Ryan
On Thu, 2007-03-15 at 09:41 -0500, Ray  Jean wrote:
 I did not mention broadband reports,they found it on their own.I was
unaware 
 that one of our partners was posting there asking for input on the 
 problem.They didnt mention this thread,maybe haven't discovered it
yet.We 
 sure were relieved when they called and acted sincere about resolving
the 
 problem.I will post the contact info here when we meet with their
rep.That 
 way if the problem shows up in your neighborhood you will know who to
call 
 without spending days trying to get to the right person.Never
underestimate 
 the power of the internet or press.
 Thanks
 Ray Hill
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dylan Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:02 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update
 
 
  Congratulations on the change of heart you've found in Walmart. Did
you
  happen to mention to them that you were posting complaints about
their
  system in the Broadband Reports Forums, or did they discover this
  themselves? They must (or should) have a search appliance dedicated
to
  sniffing out the first malodorous whiffs of bad press.
 
  Now it's time, as RickG suggests, for the good PR. This thread is a
start,
  as it's every bit as searchable as the forums!
 
  Best,
  -- 
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  Primaverity, LLC
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Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update

2007-03-15 Thread Ryan Morgan

Mark,

The RFID equipment that Wal-Mart is implementing is in the 900Mhz band .


Mark McElvy wrote:

Is it only a concern for 900 Mhz?

Mark McElvy
AccuBak Data Systems, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Ryan Langseth
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 11:01 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update


For those that have walmarts in their area, I would suggest starting
talking to them ahead of time, you may be able it prevent the same
problem from happening on your towers.  I would bet all walmarts will
start using rfid's in the next couple of years.
 
Ryan

On Thu, 2007-03-15 at 09:41 -0500, Ray  Jean wrote:
  

I did not mention broadband reports,they found it on their own.I was

unaware 
  
that one of our partners was posting there asking for input on the 
problem.They didnt mention this thread,maybe haven't discovered it

yet.We 
  

sure were relieved when they called and acted sincere about resolving

the 
  

problem.I will post the contact info here when we meet with their

rep.That 
  

way if the problem shows up in your neighborhood you will know who to

call 
  

without spending days trying to get to the right person.Never

underestimate 
  

the power of the internet or press.
Thanks
Ray Hill
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:02 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update




Congratulations on the change of heart you've found in Walmart. Did
  

you
  

happen to mention to them that you were posting complaints about
  

their
  

system in the Broadband Reports Forums, or did they discover this
themselves? They must (or should) have a search appliance dedicated
  

to
  

sniffing out the first malodorous whiffs of bad press.

Now it's time, as RickG suggests, for the good PR. This thread is a
  

start,
  

as it's every bit as searchable as the forums!

Best,
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[WISPA] Radio mounting ideas...

2007-03-15 Thread Mark McElvy
I am in an area with lots of trees and hills, south central Missouri.
Average tree height is about 50ft Oaks with ground elevation changes of
20-50 ft. There are many installs where I need to get 50ft above the
ground to get a signal. I have discovered that my source of masts has
dried up. I used to be able to get 30 and 50 foot masts through my local
Lowes but ChannelMaster has a very big backorder list. Are there others
in my situation and what are you doing?

 

Mark McElvy
AccuBak Data Systems, Inc.



 

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[WISPA] PtP pricing

2007-03-15 Thread George Rogato
I need a couple very short range PtP links. A few hundred feet at most 
for each one. Something that did close to 50 or even 100 megs duplex 
would be good


Has anyone worked with Free Space Optics and can advice?
Also looking to be frugal. But don't want 5 gig.
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Re: [WISPA] Radio mounting ideas...

2007-03-15 Thread Blair Davis

We are using Rohn 25G equivalent towers bracketed to the building.

More expensive I'd guess, but wind load here is pretty high  And no 
guy wires...




Mark McElvy wrote:

I am in an area with lots of trees and hills, south central Missouri.
Average tree height is about 50ft Oaks with ground elevation changes of
20-50 ft. There are many installs where I need to get 50ft above the
ground to get a signal. I have discovered that my source of masts has
dried up. I used to be able to get 30 and 50 foot masts through my local
Lowes but ChannelMaster has a very big backorder list. Are there others
in my situation and what are you doing?

 


Mark McElvy
AccuBak Data Systems, Inc.



 

  


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Re: [WISPA] PtP pricing

2007-03-15 Thread Ryan Langseth
On Thu, 2007-03-15 at 14:02 -0800, George Rogato wrote:
 I need a couple very short range PtP links. A few hundred feet at most 
 for each one. Something that did close to 50 or even 100 megs duplex 
 would be good
 
http://tranzeo.com/products/radios/TR-FDD-Series


 Has anyone worked with Free Space Optics and can advice?
Not yet but they look interesting.

 Also looking to be frugal. But don't want 5 gig.
(that one is 5 gig ... but cheap)

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RE: [WISPA] Radio mounting ideas...

2007-03-15 Thread JohnnyO
Blair - what type of base are you using for 50ft of un-guy'd Rohn25 ?

JohnnyO

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Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 4:21 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio mounting ideas...

We are using Rohn 25G equivalent towers bracketed to the building.

More expensive I'd guess, but wind load here is pretty high  And no 
guy wires...



Mark McElvy wrote:
 I am in an area with lots of trees and hills, south central Missouri.
 Average tree height is about 50ft Oaks with ground elevation changes
of
 20-50 ft. There are many installs where I need to get 50ft above the
 ground to get a signal. I have discovered that my source of masts has
 dried up. I used to be able to get 30 and 50 foot masts through my
local
 Lowes but ChannelMaster has a very big backorder list. Are there
others
 in my situation and what are you doing?

  

 Mark McElvy
 AccuBak Data Systems, Inc.



  

   

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Re: [WISPA] Radio mounting ideas...

2007-03-15 Thread Blair Davis




2'x2' x3' deep concrete base with a bracket to building at 18-22 ft.



JohnnyO wrote:

  Blair - what type of base are you using for 50ft of un-guy'd Rohn25 ?

JohnnyO

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Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 4:21 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio mounting ideas...

We are using Rohn 25G equivalent towers bracketed to the building.

More expensive I'd guess, but wind load here is pretty high  And no 
guy wires...



Mark McElvy wrote:
  
  
I am in an area with lots of trees and hills, south central Missouri.
Average tree height is about 50ft Oaks with ground elevation changes

  
  of
  
  
20-50 ft. There are many installs where I need to get 50ft above the
ground to get a signal. I have discovered that my source of masts has
dried up. I used to be able to get 30 and 50 foot masts through my

  
  local
  
  
Lowes but ChannelMaster has a very big backorder list. Are there

  
  others
  
  
in my situation and what are you doing?

 

Mark McElvy
AccuBak Data Systems, Inc.



 

  

  
  
  


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Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update

2007-03-15 Thread Tim Wolfe
Here is a link to the specific page at Broadband Reports: 
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/82238?brk=2
You can bet there was a good reason that made it to the front page there 
too. ;-)




Ryan Morgan wrote:

Dylan,

Wal-mart found out about the post on www.dslreports.com on their own. 
It was a news topic on the main page that pointed to the forum thread. 
There was really nothing negative mentioned in the topic( well one 
thing , but more of a last resort kind of fix ), rather trying to get 
some information about getting away from the interference. They may 
take it as bad pr though.



Thanks,

Ryan



Dylan Oliver wrote:

Congratulations on the change of heart you've found in Walmart. Did you
happen to mention to them that you were posting complaints about their
system in the Broadband Reports Forums, or did they discover this
themselves? They must (or should) have a search appliance dedicated to
sniffing out the first malodorous whiffs of bad press.

Now it's time, as RickG suggests, for the good PR. This thread is a 
start,

as it's every bit as searchable as the forums!

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Re: [WISPA] anyone see this?

2007-03-15 Thread Tim Wolfe
Thank The good Lord above that I never signed the TelCove contract for 
bandwidth last year!. I mean, you really have no idea what the local 
provider was doing wrong, but to turn off a school district and fire CO 
on that system, COME ON!. You can bet the lawsuits from the school 
district alone will make Level 3 think twice about doing this again?. 
If  you have an offending server, the stupid thing has an IP address, 
Block it!. I would hope that Level 3 has enough smarts to do this?. Even 
a little guy like me knows how to block an offending IP address, and I 
am stupid, LOL!



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[WISPA] Friday Humor - A little early :)

2007-03-15 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
TELEPHONE HISTORY

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

After having dug to a depth of 10 meters last year, Scottish scientists
found traces of copper wire dating back 100 years and came to the
conclusion that their ancestors already had a telephone network more
than 100 years ago.

 

Not to be outdone by the Scots, in the weeks that followed, British
scientists dug to a depth of 20 meters, and shortly after headlines  in
the UK newspapers read:  British archaeologists have found traces of
200 year old copper wire and have concluded that their ancestors
already had an advanced high-tech communications network a hundred
years earlier than the Scots.

 

One week later, The Advertiser, a Lafayette , Louisiana newspaper,
reported the following:  After digging as deep as 30 meters in cane
fields near New Iberia , Gaston Boudreaux, a self taught archaeologist,
reported that he found absolutely nothing.  Gaston has, therefore,
concluded that 300 years ago Cajuns were already using wireless
technology.






 

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Re: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update

2007-03-15 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
It's nice to see them do the right thing.  Too bad it had to happen that 
way.


laters,
marlon

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Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 9:32 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Walmart RFID update


Hello Everyone
Wanted to update you on our walmart rfid problem.We spent hours on monday 
trying to talk to someone on their rfid deployment team,we finally made 
contact.We were informed that it used the whole spectrum,had to run at full 
power and used circular polarity.They stated they were operating within the 
legal limits and could not change anything to help with our interference 
problem.I ask if they could turn off their equipment for 30 days to give us 
a chance to relocate to a new site.They agreed to two weeks which suprised 
me.When they turned it off all of our links instantly went back to working 
including the one inside their store at the eye doctors office.We start 
looking for a new site and equipment to install on it.Well today walmart 
calls us and say they want to work with us on the problem and they are 
sending a engineer to this store to check for a possible rogue piece of 
equipment and possibly trying to place some type of schielding between them 
and us IF we will QUIT posting info about this problem on broadband reports 
forum.I am amazed that they changed their whole attitude because of a little 
bad pr.Maybe we will be able to find a solution to the problem now that they 
seem willing to cooperate.Again thanks to everone who offered their advice 
on the situation.

Ray Hill
surfmore.net
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Re: [WISPA] New WISPA Principal Member - Webjogger Internet Services

2007-03-15 Thread Marlon K. Schafer

Finally!  grin

Good to have you on the team Mario
marlon

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To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 1:18 AM
Subject: [WISPA] New WISPA Principal Member - Webjogger Internet Services


Many thanks to Mario Pommier of Webjogger Internet Services for making the 
step up to membership in WISPA. We appreciate you and all others like you 
who have recognized that through your dues and your time that you can help 
be an active part in building a better future for our industry. Thank you 
Mario. Here is a little bit of information about Mario and Webjogger:


Founded in 1997, Webjogger has been providing Internet service to 
customers in the Hudson Valley for 10 years. Webjogger services range from 
traditional Internet services (dialup and webhosting) to robust broadband 
connectivity solutions (highspeed wireless Internet and fully secure VPN 
connectivity using wireless point-to-point and point-to-multipoint 
technologies); from datacenter services (managed server colocation and 
online offsite backups) to advanced network consulting (routing and 
switching design and implementation).


Webjogger is owned and operated by experienced, knowledgeable, 
customer-focused individuals who know that researching and developing new 
technologies and deploying well-engineered solutions goes hand in hand 
with listening to our customers in order to fulfill their real needs.


Thanks.

Mario

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Re: [WISPA] Radio mounting ideas...

2007-03-15 Thread Marlon K. Schafer

We've used some of the pushup masts that EC stocks.

Remember to take 1 foot off the stated height for each 10' though.  ex: 50' 
mast is actually gonna be around 45'


laters,
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Mark McElvy [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 1:09 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Radio mounting ideas...


I am in an area with lots of trees and hills, south central Missouri.
Average tree height is about 50ft Oaks with ground elevation changes of
20-50 ft. There are many installs where I need to get 50ft above the
ground to get a signal. I have discovered that my source of masts has
dried up. I used to be able to get 30 and 50 foot masts through my local
Lowes but ChannelMaster has a very big backorder list. Are there others
in my situation and what are you doing?



Mark McElvy
AccuBak Data Systems, Inc.





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Re: [WISPA] PtP pricing

2007-03-15 Thread Marlon K. Schafer

what's the budget?

- Original Message - 
From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 3:02 PM
Subject: [WISPA] PtP pricing


I need a couple very short range PtP links. A few hundred feet at most 
for each one. Something that did close to 50 or even 100 megs duplex 
would be good


Has anyone worked with Free Space Optics and can advice?
Also looking to be frugal. But don't want 5 gig.
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Re: [WISPA] Radio mounting ideas...

2007-03-15 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Where's Bob M???

rohn 25 isn't rated for unguyed climbing at any height.
marlon

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  From: Blair Davis 
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  Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 3:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio mounting ideas...


  2'x2' x3' deep concrete base with a bracket to building at 18-22 ft.



  JohnnyO wrote: 
Blair - what type of base are you using for 50ft of un-guy'd Rohn25 ?

JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 4:21 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio mounting ideas...

We are using Rohn 25G equivalent towers bracketed to the building.

More expensive I'd guess, but wind load here is pretty high  And no 
guy wires...



Mark McElvy wrote:
  I am in an area with lots of trees and hills, south central Missouri.
Average tree height is about 50ft Oaks with ground elevation changes
of
  20-50 ft. There are many installs where I need to get 50ft above the
ground to get a signal. I have discovered that my source of masts has
dried up. I used to be able to get 30 and 50 foot masts through my
local
  Lowes but ChannelMaster has a very big backorder list. Are there
others
  in my situation and what are you doing?

 

Mark McElvy
AccuBak Data Systems, Inc.



 

  

  

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[WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Employment Opportunity

2007-03-15 Thread Marlon K. Schafer

- Original Message - 
From: Brent A Havens 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 3:35 PM
Subject: [WISP] Employment Opportunity 


Please pass this along to anyone looking or for anyone wanting to advance their 
career.

 

Wireless  Data Technician / Manager

 

Position is with rapidly growing regional ISP  Tel Co in NE Missouri.  Duties 
include but are not limited to, climbing on roofs and/or towers for the 
installation of High Speed Wireless Internet service, running cables, 
installing network cards, configuring networks and PC's. Will be expected to 
install, troubleshoot, and maintain high-capacity wireless equipment at network 
sites and must be available for on-call duty. Desire previous wireless and/or 
satellite installation experience, and working knowledge of TCP-IP, VOIP, 
security, networking, and PC's. RF knowledge is a plus. At least an associate's 
degree or equivalent experience. Full benefit pkg w/ health, dental, vision, 
401K, + exc. Salary.  Send resume in confidence to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 
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Re: [WISPA] PtP pricing

2007-03-15 Thread George Rogato

Non set budget.


Marlon K. Schafer wrote:

what's the budget?

- Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 3:02 PM
Subject: [WISPA] PtP pricing


I need a couple very short range PtP links. A few hundred feet at most 
for each one. Something that did close to 50 or even 100 megs duplex 
would be good


Has anyone worked with Free Space Optics and can advice?
Also looking to be frugal. But don't want 5 gig.
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RE: [WISPA] Radio mounting ideas...

2007-03-15 Thread Ralph
1 cubic yard of cement
60 ft high.   1 vertical antenna
No guys. Even stronger with a house bracket.
I've put up many like this.

Rohn 20.  Forget it!



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 10:37 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio mounting ideas...

Where's Bob M???

rohn 25 isn't rated for unguyed climbing at any height.
marlon

  - Original Message - 
  From: Blair Davis 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 3:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio mounting ideas...


  2'x2' x3' deep concrete base with a bracket to building at 18-22 ft.



  JohnnyO wrote: 
Blair - what type of base are you using for 50ft of un-guy'd Rohn25 ?

JohnnyO
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Re: [WISPA] Radio mounting ideas...

2007-03-15 Thread Travis Johnson
I don't think that's correct. I have an old Rohn book that shows you can 
go 30ft above the last anchor point and still be within loading specs.


Travis
Microserv

Marlon K. Schafer wrote:

Where's Bob M???

rohn 25 isn't rated for unguyed climbing at any height.
marlon

  - Original Message - 
  From: Blair Davis 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 3:39 PM

  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio mounting ideas...


  2'x2' x3' deep concrete base with a bracket to building at 18-22 ft.



  JohnnyO wrote: 
Blair - what type of base are you using for 50ft of un-guy'd Rohn25 ?


JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 4:21 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio mounting ideas...

We are using Rohn 25G equivalent towers bracketed to the building.

More expensive I'd guess, but wind load here is pretty high  And no 
guy wires...




Mark McElvy wrote:
  I am in an area with lots of trees and hills, south central Missouri.
Average tree height is about 50ft Oaks with ground elevation changes
of
  20-50 ft. There are many installs where I need to get 50ft above the
ground to get a signal. I have discovered that my source of masts has
dried up. I used to be able to get 30 and 50 foot masts through my
local
  Lowes but ChannelMaster has a very big backorder list. Are there
others
  in my situation and what are you doing?

 


Mark McElvy
AccuBak Data Systems, Inc.



 

  

  

  

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Re: [WISPA] Radio mounting ideas...

2007-03-15 Thread Marlon K. Schafer

H.  Bob always said that they weren't rated for unguyed climbing.

But I've seen it done more than once.
marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio mounting ideas...


I don't think that's correct. I have an old Rohn book that shows you can 
go 30ft above the last anchor point and still be within loading specs.


Travis
Microserv

Marlon K. Schafer wrote:

Where's Bob M???

rohn 25 isn't rated for unguyed climbing at any height.
marlon

  - Original Message - 
  From: Blair Davis 
  To: WISPA General List 
  Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 3:39 PM

  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio mounting ideas...


  2'x2' x3' deep concrete base with a bracket to building at 18-22 ft.



  JohnnyO wrote: 
Blair - what type of base are you using for 50ft of un-guy'd Rohn25 ?


JohnnyO

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Blair Davis
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 4:21 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Radio mounting ideas...

We are using Rohn 25G equivalent towers bracketed to the building.

More expensive I'd guess, but wind load here is pretty high  And no 
guy wires...




Mark McElvy wrote:
  I am in an area with lots of trees and hills, south central Missouri.
Average tree height is about 50ft Oaks with ground elevation changes
of
  20-50 ft. There are many installs where I need to get 50ft above the
ground to get a signal. I have discovered that my source of masts has
dried up. I used to be able to get 30 and 50 foot masts through my
local
  Lowes but ChannelMaster has a very big backorder list. Are there
others
  in my situation and what are you doing?

 


Mark McElvy
AccuBak Data Systems, Inc.



 

  

  

  

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Re: [WISPA] PtP pricing

2007-03-15 Thread Marlon K. Schafer

Hard to beat orthogon!

And for a link that short I'd look REALLY hard at fso gear.

http://www.plaintree.com/

Plaintree has some cool infrared systems.  They handle dust and such better 
than lasers.


If you want laser systems, EC has some that are pretty cool too.  Not too 
expensive either.

marlon

- Original Message - 
From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] PtP pricing



Non set budget.


Marlon K. Schafer wrote:

what's the budget?

- Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 3:02 PM
Subject: [WISPA] PtP pricing


I need a couple very short range PtP links. A few hundred feet at most 
for each one. Something that did close to 50 or even 100 megs duplex 
would be good


Has anyone worked with Free Space Optics and can advice?
Also looking to be frugal. But don't want 5 gig.
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RE: [WISPA] Friday Humor - A little early :)

2007-03-15 Thread Rick Harnish
HeHe,

Yeah, but it was 300 years ago that Old Man Boudreaux invented his infamous
Bu++ Paste that Mac loves so much.

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA


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TELEPHONE HISTORY

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

After having dug to a depth of 10 meters last year, Scottish scientists
found traces of copper wire dating back 100 years and came to the
conclusion that their ancestors already had a telephone network more
than 100 years ago.

 

Not to be outdone by the Scots, in the weeks that followed, British
scientists dug to a depth of 20 meters, and shortly after headlines  in
the UK newspapers read:  British archaeologists have found traces of
200 year old copper wire and have concluded that their ancestors
already had an advanced high-tech communications network a hundred
years earlier than the Scots.

 

One week later, The Advertiser, a Lafayette , Louisiana newspaper,
reported the following:  After digging as deep as 30 meters in cane
fields near New Iberia , Gaston Boudreaux, a self taught archaeologist,
reported that he found absolutely nothing.  Gaston has, therefore,
concluded that 300 years ago Cajuns were already using wireless
technology.






 

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[WISPA] Boston Muni

2007-03-15 Thread Peter R.

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/editorials/articles/2007/03/15/can_you_e_mail_me_now/

Boston is taking a different slant on the whole Muni thing.

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Re: [WISPA] New WISPA Principal Member - Webjogger Internet Services

2007-03-15 Thread Butch Evans

On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:


Finally!  grin

Good to have you on the team Mario


What?  No welcome?  LOL

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RE: [WISPA] Friday Humor - A little early :)

2007-03-15 Thread Butch Evans

On Fri, 16 Mar 2007, Rick Harnish wrote:

Yeah, but it was 300 years ago that Old Man Boudreaux invented his 
infamous Bu++ Paste that Mac loves so much.


Now, Rick...it's not the paste that he loves...It's the loving way 
he applies it to himself that he loves...  lol


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Re: [WISPA] New WISPA Principal Member - Webjogger Internet Services

2007-03-15 Thread Marlon K. Schafer

I did think about it!
hehehe

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On Thu, 15 Mar 2007, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:


Finally!  grin

Good to have you on the team Mario


What?  No welcome?  LOL

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