[WISPA] Digital Democracy

2007-04-25 Thread Peter R.
article from 2004 - but nice history lesson for the general public http://newstandardnews.net/content/index.cfm/items/1358 -- Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884 http://www.marketingIDEAguy.com -- WISPA Wireless List:

[WISPA] New to List

2007-04-25 Thread Mike Hammett
- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

[WISPA] 700 MHz

2007-04-25 Thread Peter R.
The FCC announces today about the first of 2 700 MHz auctions. Article describing the problems: http://www.rcrnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070423/FREE/70419016/1005/allnews -- Regards, Peter Radizeski RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist We Help ISPs Connect Communicate 813.963.5884

[WISPA] Open Meeting on 700 MHz

2007-04-25 Thread John Scrivner
Apparently there is a meeting scheduled today, April 25, at the FCC over how the 700 MHz band is going to be split up for auction. It amazes me how we can be kept in the dark about these meetings. If anyone can tell me how to get included on announcements of such meetings I need to know about

RE: [WISPA] Open Meeting on 700 MHz

2007-04-25 Thread Mac Dearman
I can't believe we didn't know about this either - really chaps ay hiney all the way up to my scalp! I guess I will have to wait and see how it is chopped up to know if it will be possible for us to own a portion of that great spectrum. Chances are it will be in huge blocks (as always) and would

RE: [WISPA] Open Meeting on 700 MHz

2007-04-25 Thread Smith, Rick
VERY bad. I believe this is the reason that the big boys aren't doing 5 gig / 2 gig, etc unlicensed today in addition to all their other crap. Let all those pesky wisps get the customers educated, we'll take 'em all with 700 mhz indoor installs. grrr. I wish I were close enough to

Re: [WISPA] Open Meeting on 700 MHz

2007-04-25 Thread Peter R.
FCC Digest comes out daily with about 30 to 50 items. Sign up at fcc.gov This announcement today about the first of 2 auctions for 700 MHz is going to describe how the auction will go. Will it be large geographic chunks or smaller broadcast areas. Starts at 10:30. John Scrivner wrote:

Re: [WISPA] Open Meeting on 700 MHz

2007-04-25 Thread Peter R.
The meeting notice popped up last week. I didn't know about the 700 MHz until this morning. The 700 MHz has been on comments since 2003. Regards, Peter -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:

RE: [WISPA] Open Meeting on 700 MHz

2007-04-25 Thread Mac Dearman
Travis, IMHO the FCC is supposed to serve the people. I understand that spectrum is a huge money maker, but if just one of the FCC chair people lived in my rural part of the state - - we would have some of that spectrum. The ones who own the good spectrum now in my area have never used it and

RE: [WISPA] Open Meeting on 700 MHz

2007-04-25 Thread Mac Dearman
Peter - I don't guess that is going to be streamed eh? Mac Dearman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R. Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:07 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Open Meeting on 700 MHz FCC Digest comes

Re: [WISPA] Open Meeting on 700 MHz

2007-04-25 Thread Peter R.
Plus dealing with less than 10 who will fill out forms and abide by the rules without a fuss. The FCC has the CEO's of the cellco's on speed-dial. from Alex @ ISP-Planet: http://www.isp-planet.com/politics/2003/uncertainty_p2.html Here's a quote from a Powell speech: (competition is bad

Re: [WISPA] Open Meeting on 700 MHz

2007-04-25 Thread John Scrivner
Travis Johnson wrote: John, This is just my opinion, but I seriously doubt the FCC is just going to give away 700MHz licenses, even on a per base station basis. I never said they should give it to us. I said they should have base station sized auctions. They can include an opening bid

Re: [WISPA] Open Meeting on 700 MHz

2007-04-25 Thread Mike Hammett
Billions* - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:00 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Open Meeting on 700 MHz John,

Re: [WISPA] Open Meeting on 700 MHz

2007-04-25 Thread Mike Hammett
I could see $5k per license (depending on the terms of the license) to be a good deal for WISPs. The amount of frequency we get, power levels, etc. all play in to the cost effectiveness of the license. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original

Re: [WISPA] Open Meeting on 700 MHz

2007-04-25 Thread Travis Johnson
The other issue is equipment... you are willing to spend $20k RIGHT NOW for the license, but it would be at least a year before any equipment was available, and then it would be $500 per CPE and $10k per base station. A lot of the WISPs on this list spend an hour building a CPE to save $5.

Re: [WISPA] Open Meeting on 700 MHz

2007-04-25 Thread Travis Johnson
Maybe they haven't used it because there isn't any good, affordable equipment right now? Travis Microserv Mac Dearman wrote: Travis, IMHO the FCC is supposed to serve the people. I understand that spectrum is a huge money maker, but if just one of the FCC chair people lived in my rural

Re: [WISPA] Open Meeting on 700 MHz

2007-04-25 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
John, there is a daily release from the FCC that covers these things. It's long and 99.9% of it doesn't apply to us. I rarely take the time to scan it these days. I'll try to remember to post a signup link next time one comes in. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)

[WISPA] Modifications of Parts 2 and 15 of the,Commiss ion’s Rules for unlicensed devices and,equipment app roval

2007-04-25 Thread Dawn DiPietro
All, I just received this document and thought it might be of some interest to the list. http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-07-56A1.pdf Regards, Dawn DiPietro -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

Re: [WISPA] Open Meeting on 700 MHz - FCC Subscribe

2007-04-25 Thread Peter R.
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Re: [WISPA] Modifications of Parts 2 and 15 of the ,Commission’s Rules for unlicensed devices and,equ ipment approval

2007-04-25 Thread Tim Kerns
Am I reading this correctly Does this mean that if a mfg of a mini pci radio gets it certified with different antenna, that it then can be put into ANY base unit and be certified? Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this what we have been asking for? Tim - Original Message

RE: [WISPA] Radio station app

2007-04-25 Thread Mac Dearman
-Original Message- Behalf Of Doug Ratcliffe **FYI - A reminder to people out there interested in starting a noncommercial radio station (for whatever reason), applications must be recieved between Oct 12 and Oct 19, 2007, and the application itself costs nothing... I have kicked

Re: [WISPA] Modifications of Part s 2 and 15 of the,Commission’s Rules for unlicensed devices and,equipment approval

2007-04-25 Thread Dawn DiPietro
Tim, I have not read the whole document yet and it still needs some clarification but it kind of looks that way. Don't go jumping for joy just yet. ;-) Regards, Dawn DiPietro Tim Kerns wrote: Am I reading this correctly Does this mean that if a mfg of a mini pci radio gets it

Re: [WISPA] Modifications of Part s 2 and 15 of the,Commission’s Rules for unlicensed devices and,equipment approval

2007-04-25 Thread Dawn DiPietro
Mike, Where did you get that idea? Regards, Dawn DiPietro Mike Hammett wrote: I thought that was put in to effect a year or two ago. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Tim Kerns [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] Modifications of Parts 2 and 15 of the ,Commission’s Rules for unlicensed devices and,equ ipment approval

2007-04-25 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
I read that just about all the way through. It appears we can now certify a mini-pci radio with some specific gain antennas, and use it in any control board. There seems to be some requirement that we demonstrate the software can't or doesn't cause the module to operate outside of certified

RE: [WISPA] Radio station app

2007-04-25 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
Mac, I was on the original board of our two NPR stations, one classical music 24 hours a day and the other NPR 24 hours a day. They were on adjacent FM frequencies. A non-commercial, low power church station (from somewhere in Kansas as I recall) got a frequency just between the two. It's

Re: [WISPA] Modifications of Parts 2 and 15 of the ,Commission’s Rules for unlicensed devices and,equ ipment approval

2007-04-25 Thread Mike Hammett
It had been discussed on the Part 15 lists for that time and I remember reading an FCC publication about it a while ago. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] Open Meeting on 700 MHz

2007-04-25 Thread Jack Unger
John, Regarding your comment: Enabling thousands of new bustling and growing entrepreneurs to build local wireless communication broadband companies is the smartest thing they could do which is why they will not do it. Yes, creating and supporting new entrepreneurs is what government

Re: [WISPA] Radio station app

2007-04-25 Thread Peter R.
Correct. You can say something like this show is sponsored by Joe's Car Lot. And that is about it. Mac Dearman wrote: -Original Message- Behalf Of Doug Ratcliffe **FYI - A reminder to people out there interested in starting a noncommercial radio station (for whatever reason),

[WISPA] FCC Summit on Spectrum Policy and Management

2007-04-25 Thread Peter R.
Federal Communications Commission’s Public Safety and Homeland Security Bureau (PSHSB) today announced that it will host a Summit on Spectrum Policy and Management: Building Interoperable Public Safety Communications on Friday, June 1, 2007, 9:00 a.m. – 4:00 p.m., in the Commission Meeting Room

[WISPA] FCC Meeting

2007-04-25 Thread Peter R.
rant The best part of these live meetings is to see nothing happening because they are still in back arguing about a compromise. It is 2 hours after the delayed scheduled start of the 9:30 meeting. Many items have been deleted from the agenda thus far, but not the 700 auction. What makes

Re: [WISPA] Modifications of Part s 2 and 15 of the,Commission’s Rules for unlicensed devices and,equipment approval

2007-04-25 Thread Dawn DiPietro
Mike, Any chance you could provide a link to the document you are talking about? Regards, Dawn DiPietro Mike Hammett wrote: It had been discussed on the Part 15 lists for that time and I remember reading an FCC publication about it a while ago. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing

Re: [WISPA] Modifications of Parts 2 and 15 of the ,Commission’s Rules for unlicensed devices and,equ ipment approval

2007-04-25 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Nope. Not what it says. It's very specific about the antenna AND cabling used. What it means is that if you build a laptop (or some such device) and wish to slap in an atheros vs. prism rf section you can do that without having to recertify the whole shebang. They SPECIFICALLY excluded

Re: [WISPA] Open Meeting on 700 MHz

2007-04-25 Thread Rich Comroe
It's ALWAYS been this way. Back in the 50's when you were taught ideals, rest assured it was the same way (but as a child you weren't aware). Remember that telecommunications had little need for radio back then other than as microwave backhaul ... which never cut a large geographic area due

Re: [WISPA] Modifications of Part s 2 and 15 of the,Commission’s Rules for unlicensed devices and,equipment approval

2007-04-25 Thread Dawn DiPietro
Marlon, I think I know where the confusion comes in but I will need to do some more reading before I will comment on whether you are correct or not. You may be correct in your assumption but there might be some confusion about what this recent document actually refers to. Stay tuned...;-)

Re: [WISPA] Open Meeting on 700 MHz

2007-04-25 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
- Original Message - From: Jack Unger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Open Meeting on 700 MHz John, Regarding your comment: Enabling thousands of new bustling and growing entrepreneurs to

Re: [WISPA] Modifications of Parts 2 and 15 of the ,Commission’s Rules for unlicensed devices and,equ ipment approval

2007-04-25 Thread Mike Hammett
Probably not. :-p Not that I don't want to, but my searching abilities aren't so good. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday,

RE: [WISPA] Open Meeting on 700 MHz

2007-04-25 Thread Rick Harnish
Jack, Campaign Contribution regulation is only one part of the solution to the problem. There are many ways to buy votes after the election is over and the politicians are in office. Regulating campaign contributions would just put more corporate money into the pot to fund trips, pet projects,

Re: [WISPA] Open Meeting on 700 MHz

2007-04-25 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
- Original Message - From: Rich Comroe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Open Meeting on 700 MHz Before I start sounding like Mark, I need to state that I believe government plays an important

Re: [WISPA] Open Meeting on 700 MHz

2007-04-25 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
- Original Message - From: Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:15 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Open Meeting on 700 MHz Jack, I do however agree that our elected officials do not control the country anymore. The

Re: [WISPA] Open Meeting on 700 MHz

2007-04-25 Thread Jack Unger
Rich, You make a good point. As a child, it was easy for me to understand the ideals that I was taught but it was harder for me to see and to understand what was really going on behind the scenes - behind the political curtain so to speak. Now, as an adult, it's become painfully obvious to

Re: [WISPA] Open Meeting on 700 MHz

2007-04-25 Thread Rich Comroe
- Original Message - From: Mark Koskenmaki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 1:08 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Open Meeting on 700 MHz - Original Message - From: Jack Unger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] Open Meeting on 700 MHz

2007-04-25 Thread Rich Comroe
I've found your posts articulate, intelligent, and often very insightful. I agree with many of things you write. But I can't help but disagree with literally everything you've said here in this post. I'd spent nearly a decade representing a large corporation in public coordination functions

Re: [WISPA] Open Meeting on 700 MHz

2007-04-25 Thread Rich Comroe
A very good respectable attitude. I agree with you whole heartedly that FCC (and justice dept policy) has badly damaged our own wireless and wired telecommunications industries in this country (which for so long led the entire planet). That doesn't make them evil ... it just means they've

Re: [WISPA] Modifications of Part s 2 and 15 of the,Commission’s Rules for unlicensed devices and,equipment approval

2007-04-25 Thread Jack Unger
Tim, I read the 2nd Report and Order and I don't see where it is saying that a certified mini PCI radio can be put into any base unit. I think what the FCC is doing is: 1. Providing eight criteria that clarify the definition of what a legal modular assembly is. 2. Allowing some

Re: [WISPA] Open Meeting on 700 MHz

2007-04-25 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
- Original Message - From: Rich Comroe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Open Meeting on 700 MHz Our economy has thrived IN SPITE OF GOVERNMENT for as long as our nation has existed. It has

RE: [WISPA] Open Meeting on 700 MHz

2007-04-25 Thread Marty Dougherty
-Original Message- From: Jack Unger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: 4/25/07 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Open Meeting on 700 MHz Rich, You make a good point. As a child, it was easy for me to understand the ideals that I was taught but it was harder

Re: [WISPA] Modifications of Parts 2 and 15 of the ,Commission’s Rules for unlicensed devices and,equ ipment approval

2007-04-25 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
- Original Message - From: Jack Unger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Modifications of Parts 2 and 15 of the,Commission’s Rules for unlicensed devices and,equipment approval Tim, I read the 2nd

Re: [WISPA] Modifications of Part s 2 and 15 of the,Commission’s Rules for unlicensed devices and,equipment approval

2007-04-25 Thread Scott Reed
I haven't read it really well and I have not yet looked up the referenced sections of Part 15, but I read the part that is not about split modular to be the part the refers to a PC. And I read it that if the PC is certified to have radio cards AND the radio card is certified with an antenna,

Re: [WISPA] Modifications of Parts 2 and 15 of the ,Commission’s Rules for unlicensed devices and,equ ipment approval

2007-04-25 Thread Tim Kerns
I find reading all these notices very difficult... I think they hire writers just to confuse us Ok, here is my thoughts.. Manufacture A designs and builds a radio card (minipci), and develops the firmware to operate it.They then get FCC certification for this radio, firmware, and

Re: [WISPA] Modifications of Part s 2 and 15 of the,Commission’s Rules for unlicensed devices and,equipment approval

2007-04-25 Thread Jack Unger
Mark, Please see my responses to your points inline. T h a n k s (you see, I individually added the Thanks; it is not automatically inserted into each of my emails :)) jack Mark Koskenmaki wrote: - Original Message - From: Jack Unger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List

RE: [WISPA] Radio station app

2007-04-25 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
Peter, I've noticed that both NPR and PBS have pushed the limits substantially on what is said during a donation acknowledgement. On NPR, the announcer doing the current pieces tends to flow into the acknowledgement but it has more and more incorporated promotional content clearly authored by the

Re: [WISPA] Modifications of Part s 2 and 15 of the,Commission’s Rules for unlicensed devices and,equipment approval

2007-04-25 Thread Jack Unger
Scott, I believe that your comments are substantially correct. The main problem that I see with building our own equipment is that very few (if any) manufacturers of modular wireless cards have certified them with a range of usable external WISP-grade antennas. I don't think this 2nd Report

Re: [WISPA] Open Meeting on 700 MHz

2007-04-25 Thread Rich Comroe
Now exactly why some people have to say I'm promoting anarchy, or that I'm against all government, or calling government universally evil, I dunno. Maybe you could explain it to me. Here's where I get the impression, from things you've written such as these few excerpts below. Government

Re: [WISPA] Modifications of Part s 2 and 15 of the,Commission’s Rules for unlicensed devices and,equipment approval

2007-04-25 Thread Scott Reed
And look as I might, I have trouble find what antennae the card vendor is certified with. From other discussions, I would ask a couple of additional questions. If we assume we can find a mPCI card that has WISP usable antennae in its certification then: 1) Couldn't someone just get an RBxxx

Re: [WISPA] Modifications of Parts 2 and 15 of the ,Commission’s Rules for unlicensed devices and,equ ipment approval

2007-04-25 Thread Doug Ratcliffe
Ok, I can see several things in this ruling. It's of course referring to consumer installed PCI/USB/miniPCI(we sell retail boxed laptop wireless cards for consumer install). Well, these cards are certified SEPARATE from the computer itself, so Netgear, Dlink, Linksys can have a wide range of

Re: [WISPA] Modifications of =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?_Parts_2_and_15_of_the, Commis?= sion’s Rules for unlicensed d evices and, equipment approval

2007-04-25 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
The software can allow non FCC modes as long as there is an option to select FCC modes and not exceed either the power or frequency spectrum limits while properly selected. It would be a mistake to require the OS code to limit for FCC and US operation. The code can be changed and any number of

Re: [WISPA] Modifications of Part s 2 and 15 of the,Commission’s Rules for unlicensed devices and,equipment approval

2007-04-25 Thread Dawn DiPietro
Scott, In order for the system to be certified it must include the modular transmitter and the antenna. If you did not include these parts what would you be certifying exactly? As quoted from said document; The modular transmitter must comply with the antenna requirements of Section 15.203

Re: [WISPA] Modifications of =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?_Parts_2_and_15_of_the, Commis?= sion’s Rules for unlicensed d evices and, equipment approval

2007-04-25 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
I'm curious how a Linux with madwifi is binary certified yet MT or StarOS are not? They all use Linux and have drivers traceable to Atheros, just as the madwifi group code is. Lonnie On 4/25/07, Doug Ratcliffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I can see several things in this ruling. It's of

Re: [WISPA] Modifications of =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?_Parts_2_and_15_of_the, Commis?= sion’s Rules for unlicensed d evices and, equipment approval

2007-04-25 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
I guess you have to define what unique means. You can buy U.FL or RP-SMA connectors from just as many outlets as you can a N connector, maybe even more, since N connectors are more Industrial and the U.FL and RP-SMA have become consumer items. Lonnie On 4/25/07, Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL

[WISPA] Network Monitoring and Graphing

2007-04-25 Thread Jory Privett
I am looking some a software package that does network monitoring and graphing. I have used MRTG for graphing before. I have looked at WhatsUp, JFFNMS and Niagos before. I want to be able to graph traffic on network ports of my routers (Cisco and Mikrotik) and wireless equipment. I also

Re: [WISPA] Network Monitoring and Graphing

2007-04-25 Thread Eric Muehleisen
Look at CACTI. It has a steep learning curve, but is open source and there is a ton of help in it's forums. We use it to monitor around 4,000 wireless subscribersincluding access points, switches, routers, mail servers, etc. It also has an alert/notification plug-in available that will

Re: [WISPA] Modifications of Parts 2 and 15 of the ,Commission’s Rules for unlicensed devices and,equ ipment approval

2007-04-25 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
THAT's the one I've been waiting for. This pretty much rules out any intent what so ever that WE can use this to mix and match transmitters. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator

Re: [WISPA] Network Monitoring and Graphing

2007-04-25 Thread Travis Johnson
WhatsUp and JFFNMS both. What'sUp is very quick to notify via SMS (I get the messages within 10 seconds of a host being down). JFF for keeping historical data, etc. Travis Microserv Jory Privett wrote: I am looking some a software package that does network monitoring and graphing. I have

Re: [WISPA] Modifications of =?WINDOWS-1252?Q?_Parts_2_and_15_of_the, Commis?= sion’s Rules for unlicensed d evices and, equipment approval

2007-04-25 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
Why were you waiting for that one? It sounds like you do NOT want to mix and match to suit the job. You can mix and match, you just have to make sure that the transmitters you mix are certified with the antennas you use. Certified is certified. It does not matter that you have other types in

Re: [WISPA] Modifications of Part s 2 and 15 of the,Commission’s Rules for unlicensed devices and,equipment approval

2007-04-25 Thread George Rogato
Tim Kerns wrote: I find reading all these notices very difficult... I think they hire writers just to confuse us I thought it was lawyers... -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:

Re: [WISPA] Modifications of Part s 2 and 15 of the,Commission’s Rules for unlicensed devices and,equipment approval

2007-04-25 Thread Scott Reed
Right, for the transmitter. That is the mPCI card that goes in the laptop. I am talking about the laptop itself. Laptop = SBC = WRAP = RB = ??? Dawn DiPietro wrote: Scott, In order for the system to be certified it must include the modular transmitter and the antenna. If you did not

Re: [WISPA] FCC Admits Mistakes In Measuring Broadband Competition

2007-04-25 Thread John Thomas
It just seems that if the information is important, the FCC should be willing to put their money where their mouth is. I don't know who would actually put up the money. John Peter R. wrote: I think many (half?) don't even know that they have to file. Many don't understand CALEA or know that

Re: [WISPA] Network Monitoring and Graphing

2007-04-25 Thread Steve
I've been using zabbix effectively for those purposes. Does a good job, has nice template control, soon is supposed to support auto discovery. Steve -- Jory Privett wrote: I am looking some a software package that does network monitoring and graphing. I have used MRTG for graphing before. I

Re: [WISPA] Network Monitoring and Graphing

2007-04-25 Thread Sam Tetherow
I use nagios and cacti for notification and graphing respectively. Both were simple to set up on a debian box via apt-get. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Jory Privett wrote: I am looking some a software package that does network monitoring and graphing. I have used MRTG for graphing

[WISPA] LEMMINGS?

2007-04-25 Thread wispa
Another two cents that may or may not be worth ANYTHING at all. RANT I have sat back and observed for some time now (with much disdain) as the 'herd' runs as fast as we can toward the cliff. I am still waiting to see if the herd (WE) turn out to be lemmings or not, but the cliff is

RE: [WISPA] Modifications of Parts 2 and 15 of the,Com mission's Rules for unlicensed devices and,equipment appro val

2007-04-25 Thread ralph
Laptop=Legal FCC Certified Computing Device SBC=not WRAP=not RB=not -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Reed Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 8:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Modifications of Parts 2 and 15 of

Re: [WISPA] Modifications of Parts 2 and 15 of the ,Commission’s Rules for unlicensed devices and,equ ipment approval

2007-04-25 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
- Original Message - From: Jack Unger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 1:33 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Modifications of Parts 2 and 15 of the,Commission’s Rules for unlicensed devices and,equipment approval Yes, we still need

Re: [WISPA] Modifications of Parts 2 and 15 of the ,Commission’s Rules for unlicensed devices and,equ ipment approval

2007-04-25 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
But Jack, they don't have to. Anyone can. - Original Message - From: Jack Unger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Modifications of Parts 2 and 15 of the,Commission’s Rules for unlicensed devices

Re: [WISPA] Open Meeting on 700 MHz

2007-04-25 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
- Original Message - From: Rich Comroe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Open Meeting on 700 MHz Now exactly why some people have to say I'm promoting anarchy, or that I'm against all government,

Re: [WISPA] Network Monitoring and Graphing

2007-04-25 Thread Ryan Langseth
Nagios for notifications and cacti for graphing. I am also looking at a pretty nice oss project called zenoss. It has auto discovery, graphing and notifications. It also does some asset tracking and other features. I have not spent alot of time with it yet, but I did run the auto discovery and

Re: [WISPA] Network Monitoring and Graphing

2007-04-25 Thread Mark Price
We use nagios for alerting and caci for graphing and trending. Let me know if you need help with setup or integration. Mark Jory Privett wrote: I am looking some a software package that does network monitoring and graphing. I have used MRTG for graphing before. I have looked at

Re: [WISPA] Modifications of Part s 2 and 15 of the,Commission’s Rules for unlicensed devices and,equipment approval

2007-04-25 Thread Jack Unger
Mark, I agree with you on many of the points that you've been making recently regarding who should pay (or not pay) for CALEA compliance but with regard to the meaning of these FCC rules modifications, I disagree with virtually all of your opinions. There's nothing wrong with that; we are

Re: [WISPA] Modifications of Parts 2 and 15 of the, Commission's Rules for unlicensed devices and, equipment approval

2007-04-25 Thread George Rogato
Ralph, you hit the mark. The sbc guys need to get their stuff tested and certified. End of story. If some can't do it and others do, they will soon be without sales. That ought to drive them to conform. I can see the domino effect starting. ADI has done a very good thing for us. The pressure

Re: [WISPA] Network Monitoring and Graphing

2007-04-25 Thread Sam Tetherow
What are you using with your netflow data? I've been using nfcapd to store the streams to files and then parsing the data with nfdump and custom scripts. I would like to some other admin's netflow usage. Right now I use it to track bandwidth usage per IP so I can see who is responsible for

Re: [WISPA] Modifications of Parts 2 and 15 of the ,Commission’s Rules for unlicensed devices and,equ ipment approval

2007-04-25 Thread Mark Koskenmaki
- Original Message - From: Jack Unger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Modifications of Parts 2 and 15 of the,Commission’s Rules for unlicensed devices and,equipment approval Mark, I agree with