Re: [WISPA] Ok, here's my CALEA statement, and farewell.

2007-05-02 Thread Peter R.
You cannot expect others to take up your flag and run into a fight if you will not lead the way. Mark Koskenmaki wrote: I hereby declare that I am NOT a facilities based provider, since I do not have any physical point on my network that can be tapped, mirrored, probed, or otherwise

RE: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Nifty new tool for the cable ops

2007-05-02 Thread Smith, Rick
Hrm. Designed to mount ON the cable at the street and point toward the homes ? Interesting, but futile in the wind... Isn't it more expensive than a coax run to the home ? LOL. Hey Cable companies, buy these things and put 'em everywhere -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[WISPA] remote site enviro monitoring

2007-05-02 Thread Steve
Hi, I'm looking for a small device capable of at least DC voltage and temp monitoring with snmp for monitoring remote solar powered sites. I've found this http://www.akcpinc.com/company/sensorProbe2.htm but wondering if anyone has any suggestions. Thanks! Steve -- WISPA Wireless List:

Re: [WISPA] TRIVIA QUESTION

2007-05-02 Thread JohnnyO
Mac - call me - NOW ! 337-764-5953 :) JohnnyO - Original Message - From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 10:32 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] TRIVIA QUESTION Wise guy eh? Nyuk nyuk My ankles are actually sexier than

Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Nifty new tool for the cable ops

2007-05-02 Thread George Rogato
I didn't buy that one, but I did buy a 100 meg fd Plaintree FSO link a couple weeks ago. Should be here any day now. From what I understand, most FSO has very little tolerance. Things like vibration can interrupt the links connectivity. Although Plaintree specifically said it did not effect

Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Nifty new tool for the cable ops

2007-05-02 Thread Tom DeReggi
Take note the beamwidth of that FSO device is 30 degrees. (And distance 350 feet). At 30 degress, it will compete with any wireless device. Correction: Nifty tool for any Internet Provider needing to make a high capacity connection 250 feet away. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc

Re: [WISPA] Ok, here's my CALEA statement, and farewell.

2007-05-02 Thread JohnnyO
Exactly my thoughts - I value Mark's opinion and insight - but his opinion / insight does me absolutely no good if he will not stay the course. Mark - I feel you are doing yourself and 100s if not 1000s of others an injustice by leaving. I personally feel you are a friend and someone I've

RE: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Nifty new tool for the cable ops

2007-05-02 Thread Smith, Rick
Anyone know how much $$$ ? I've got an application for it, actually. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:45 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Nifty new tool for the cable

Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Nifty new tool for the cable ops

2007-05-02 Thread Zack Kneisley
These guys know their stuff when it comes to FSO http://www.cablefreesolutions.com/products_serviceprovider.htm Zack -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/

Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Nifty new tool for the cable ops

2007-05-02 Thread Dawn DiPietro
George, I am under the impression there is an FSO solution out there that has an auto align mechanism that overcomes the sway associated with cable and tower mounts. I would be interested to know if this is how Plaintree deals with this issue. Regards, Dawn DiPietro George Rogato wrote: I

Re: [WISPA] Ok, here's my CALEA statement, and farewell.

2007-05-02 Thread Carl A jeptha
Mark, It is people like you who made your country and people like you who defended your country. Always remember why you stand your ground. I stood my ground, had to leave the country for my family's safety (An loaded Uzi (mine) and a baby diaper bag (my new-born baby) together, finally got

RE: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Nifty new tool for the cable ops

2007-05-02 Thread Stephen Patrick
Zack, you flatter us! Seriously, answering a few questions that were voiced - 30degrees is very wide for FSO - the link budgets for 350feet (~100m) would normally entail a narrower beam. - I don't believe Plaintree use automatic tracking, but they could speak for themselves of course - Automatic

RE: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Nifty new tool for the cable ops

2007-05-02 Thread Brad Belton
Very cool video Stephen! Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Patrick Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Nifty new tool for the cable ops Zack, you flatter us!

RE: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Nifty new tool for the cable ops

2007-05-02 Thread Brad Belton
BTW, how is the 80GHz system coming along? Any information you can share yet? Best, Brad -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Patrick Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP]

RE: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Nifty new tool for the cable ops

2007-05-02 Thread Stephen Patrick
Hi Brad, Quick answer is Shipping ... And legal/FCC certified as well as UK OFCOM approved .. And we have reference installations too. The model we recommend is 70GHz and there are 100Mbps and Gigabit Ethernet versions, and 30 and 60cm antenna options Interface fibre LC with MM and SM options.

Re: [WISPA] Ok, here's my CALEA statement, and farewell.

2007-05-02 Thread JohnnyO
Carl - yes stop now - before you start drinking ! :) I placed an upside down flag of your current country on a tower Im working on ! (me ducks) JohnnyO - Original Message - From: Carl A jeptha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007

Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Nifty new tool for the cable ops

2007-05-02 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
- Original Message - From: Smith, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 5:19 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Nifty new tool for the cable ops Hrm. Designed to mount ON the cable at the street and point toward the homes ?

Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Nifty new tool for the cable ops

2007-05-02 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
I've known of plaintree for years. Heck, I'm probably still a sales geek on their books :-). The gear works well from what I'm told. It has different plus and minus vs. laser. I keep thinking of putting some in for my short backhaul links. The problem is that RF keeps getting cheaper and

Re: [WISPA] Ok, here's my CALEA statement, and farewell.

2007-05-02 Thread Zack Kneisley
Finally, a 1 Paragraph sentence that sums it all up. Zack On 5/2/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go get a job, fund your business and grow bigger and faster. Whining to us feels good but it fixes nothing. And, it's preaching to the choir. Most of us here AGREE

Re: [WISPA] Ok, here's my CALEA statement, and farewell.

2007-05-02 Thread Blair Davis
FYI Rep Bart Stupak's (D-MI) request for a CALEA waiver for small broadband company's is currently expected to be endorsed by my congressional Rep Fred Upton (R-MI) Thought some would like to know. -- Blair Davis AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240 West Michigan Wireless ISP

Re: [WISPA] Ok, here's my CALEA statement, and farewell.

2007-05-02 Thread Blair Davis
you bet! I've voted for him for 20 odd years. And his office helped me once with the VA. Peter R. wrote: Blair Davis wrote: FYI Rep Bart Stupak's (D-MI) request for a CALEA waiver for small broadband company's is currently expected to be endorsed by my congressional Rep Fred Upton

Re: [WISPA] Ok, here's my CALEA statement, and farewell.

2007-05-02 Thread George Rogato
Maybe we should all ask our lawmakers to endorse this bill. Blair Davis wrote: FYI Rep Bart Stupak's (D-MI) request for a CALEA waiver for small broadband company's is currently expected to be endorsed by my congressional Rep Fred Upton (R-MI) Thought some would like to know. --

Re: [WISPA] Fw: [WISP] Nifty new tool for the cable ops

2007-05-02 Thread George Rogato
Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: mks: Sure. Unless you have to try to get a permit to cross a road, river, train track etc. Bingo I would like to have a 100megs fd and there is only two ways, fiber or optical. I prefer fiber, but it's not so simple and needs a bit of work to get

Re: [WISPA] was School WiFi , about technical values.

2007-05-02 Thread Zack Kneisley
Mark I would have to say the consensus (and common-sense) way is that someone is us (the WISPS that buy FCC certified devices). If a product does not perform as well as another and they have both been put to adhere to the same guidelines as mandated by the FCC, does not then the burden fall to

[WISPA] WISPA task

2007-05-02 Thread Travis Johnson
Yes! There is a job for WISPA. Gather all the email addresses for all the congresspeople in all the states and post the list to this mailing list. Then everyone can write their reps with little or no effort. It was a little short sighted for Marlon to say The time for changing minds is past,

Re: NOW: CALEA Waiver Request WAS: [WISPA] Ok, here's my CALEA statement, and farewell.

2007-05-02 Thread Zack Kneisley
I'll contact my Rep also, as well as get our mayor and mayors of my other areas to call or write him as well to endorse this. On 5/2/07, Jack Unger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blair, That is excellent news. Do you have any kind of a reference number for this waiver request so I can ask my

Re: [WISPA] Ok, here's my CALEA statement, and farewell.

2007-05-02 Thread Matt Liotta
George Rogato wrote: Maybe we should all ask our lawmakers to endorse this bill. Does anyone think this bill is actually going to get done in time for the deadline? -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless

[WISPA] CALEA Question

2007-05-02 Thread David Peterson
As I am finding myself back into sales, I have a question concerning CALEA. I just read this blurb: The “facilities-based” terminology was meant to include providers offering connectivity infrastructure between end users and the Internet. However, establishments that acquire broadband

Re: [WISPA] Ok, here's my CALEA statement, and farewell.

2007-05-02 Thread Zack Kneisley
If not it would void our need for compliance when it passes. In other words, it's sure worth a shot. On 5/2/07, Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: George Rogato wrote: Maybe we should all ask our lawmakers to endorse this bill. Does anyone think this bill is actually going to get done in

Re: [WISPA] Ok, here's my CALEA statement, and farewell.

2007-05-02 Thread Tim Kerns
Speaking of CALEA Statements. how many receive the newsletter from NetEqualizer? I thought it was really direct and straight forward, specifically about compliance My disclaimer: I don't have any connection to Netequalizer, I don't even have one of their products. Tim

Re: [WISPA] Ok, here's my CALEA statement, and farewell.

2007-05-02 Thread Matt Liotta
Zack Kneisley wrote: If not it would void our need for compliance when it passes. In other words, it's sure worth a shot. You are still have the problem of getting fined in the meantime. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:

RE: [WISPA] WISPA task

2007-05-02 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Many of the Congress Critters don't give out real email addys...they only take emails using the forms on their websites. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 2:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject:

Re: [WISPA] WISPA task

2007-05-02 Thread Jack Unger
Consider it done. Here's a link to the page where everyone can locate their representative and send them email. http://www.house.gov/writerep/ Yes, when it comes to dealing with the government, the time is never past for changing minds. The government's job is to respond to the needs of the

Re: [WISPA] need service in Bradenton, Fl

2007-05-02 Thread Zack Kneisley
Build me a 1200 ft tower and I will peer with anyone that can see me! :-) On 4/27/07, Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Travis, and all. If this were in MY area YOU could service that customer! How cool is that. I'm tellin ya, if you want a cell phone type value (or something at

Re: [WISPA] Ok, here's my CALEA statement, and farewell.

2007-05-02 Thread Jack Unger
No. But on the other hand, if we ask for nothing then that is what we will get, or, as I've heard it said: If you don't ask, then the answer is NO. Government rules and regulations are constantly changed and amended and selectively enforced to respond to the needs of constituents. Congress

Re: [WISPA] WISPA task

2007-05-02 Thread JohnnyO
I agree - Marlon - it's never too late to change laws or minds. What could I contribute in order to help see this through ? JohnnyO - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 1:44 PM Subject:

[WISPA] Sample letter to your representatives

2007-05-02 Thread Ty Carter Lightwave Communications
This is a sample copy of what I just sent my representative Use it, edit it, discard it... just send something... Also, please don't bombard me with what you think I should have or should not have stated I'm just trying to give others a starting point of something they can elaborate

Re: [WISPA] WISPA task

2007-05-02 Thread Frank Muto
FYI. Letter writing tips from our ISPCON Spring 2005 conference program. The letter is the most popular choice of communication with a congressional office. When writing, use fax or e-mail due to the delays of mail delivery resulting from the threat of Anthrax and other bio hazards. Write your

Re: [WISPA] WISPA task

2007-05-02 Thread Jason
Gang, Congress.org has a spot to enter your zip and then takes you to a form to email all the elected officials in your district. I found it when I was googling Rep Bart Stupak + CALEA because someone else had already wrote their reps asking them for endorsement! So I did too. Jason

Re: [WISPA] Ok, here's my CALEA statement, and farewell.

2007-05-02 Thread Sam Tetherow
Gee Marlon, this sounds a lot like the debate between you and Travis except you are on the other side ;) Quite honestly I don't blame Mark K at all. He has been trying to do here what everyone has been whining at him to do but no one seems to want to listen to it. He has been trying to

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread Alan Cain
Dawn DiPietro wrote: Mark, Justify it anyway you like. Civil disobedience is not a viable solution. I don't see a large number of people stepping up to the plate and defending your position. Whoa, there now! Civil disobedience is always a viable solution. This IS America (at least where

[WISPA] CALEA Exemption for Small Wireless ISPs

2007-05-02 Thread Jack Unger
Dear Representative Stupak, I'm writing to support your request on March 14, 2007 asking that the FCC Commissioners consider a waiver from CALEA regulations for small broadband providers. In a nutshell, the costs of complying with the CALEA provisions are far in excess of what small

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread Butch Evans
On Wed, 2 May 2007, Alan Cain wrote: Dawn DiPietro wrote: Justify it anyway you like. Civil disobedience is not a viable solution. I don't see a large number of people stepping up to the plate and defending your position. Whoa, there now! Civil disobedience is always a viable solution.

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
In the 60's and '70's most of us would taken a much firmer stance. We got old and worried about offending somebody. And then we worried that somebody would punish us for taking our stand. One thing is for sure, the Telcos would not have stood for such a bum's rush. The FCC and FBI guys would

RE: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread chris cooper
Its like my old hippie friend told me the only difference between hippie and yuppie is 50 grand a year That was in 91. Adjust accordingly for inflation. c -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lonnie Nunweiler Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
Changing the laws happens MUCH quicker if a mass of people openly oppose it. Your country was founded on that very principle. Lonnie On 5/2/07, Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2 May 2007, Alan Cain wrote: Dawn DiPietro wrote: Justify it anyway you like. Civil disobedience is

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread Sam Tetherow
Butch Evans wrote: On Wed, 2 May 2007, Alan Cain wrote: Dawn DiPietro wrote: Justify it anyway you like. Civil disobedience is not a viable solution. I don't see a large number of people stepping up to the plate and defending your position. Whoa, there now! Civil disobedience is always

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
Also, and it finally sunk in, WE are becoming the MAN. Why are we scared of ourselves? Lonnie On 5/2/07, chris cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its like my old hippie friend told me the only difference between hippie and yuppie is 50 grand a year That was in 91. Adjust accordingly for

RE: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
But they are alike in they both have Harleys... :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chris cooper Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 4:03 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA? Its like my old

[WISPA] FCC Regulations Clarification

2007-05-02 Thread Ryan Morgan
I have a few questions about part 15.247 .. (i) For frequency hopping systems operating in the 902-928 MHz band: if the 20 dB bandwidth of the hopping channel is less than 250 kHz, the system shall use at least 50 hopping frequencies and the average time of occupancy on any frequency shall

Re: [WISPA] CALEA Compliance

2007-05-02 Thread Sam Tetherow
Tim Kery wrote: Hi Ross, SNIP You also have to remember that Law Enforcement's primary focus is Law Enforcement and not developing technology. The FBI/DEA/DOJ said as much when in 2004 they petitioned the FCC to expand CALEA to broadband and VoIP. Essentially, they argued that it isn't

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread Butch Evans
On Wed, 2 May 2007, Sam Tetherow wrote: Um, that is what the DISOBEDIENCE in civil disobedience means. I can't tell what you are referring to here. My comment was specifically to say that criminal action (breaking the law) is not the proper course. Is that the part that you disagree with?

Re: [WISPA] CALEA Compliance

2007-05-02 Thread Ross Cornett
I appreciated Tim's remarks, but this sounded very much like a response from someone that is getting fed by the process of CALEA. If I am wrong I duly appologize. if I am correct then I have said enough. I agree with you Sam. It boils down to Uncle Sam is pushing an INTERNET SECURITY TAX

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread J. Vogel
... I wish now that I had paid more attention in History classes Which of the founding fathers said something to the effect that the proper response of the citizenry to an unjust law was to ignore/disobey it? John Vogel Butch Evans wrote: On Wed, 2 May 2007, Lonnie Nunweiler wrote:

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread George Rogato
Nahh, hippies don't have harley's. I was wiring at a hippie market a few years back, and this hippie dude, a real hippie dude, told me that my truck was a waste and that anywhere I could go in Eugene Oregon, he could get there just as fast on his bicycle. robably is true. So as I was getting

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread JohnnyO
Butch - if we all followed the laws - nothing in this country would be what it is today. If our predeccessors (spelling?) followed the rule which we bucked against - where would we be ? JohnnyO - Original Message - From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
I suggest you not take the view that breaking any and all laws is a criminal matter. There are various levels of laws, and most are not criminal matters. I can break the speed laws and get a fine but no criminal record, unless of course I harm someone or do it in such a way that it is clearly

Re: [WISPA] WISPA task

2007-05-02 Thread George Rogato
Please post that link, if we all filled out the form, we would get some kind of recognition. Jason wrote: Gang, Congress.org has a spot to enter your zip and then takes you to a form to email all the elected officials in your district. I found it when I was googling Rep Bart Stupak +

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
The proper phrase is: yeah but, wait right here, eh? Always end with a question, eh? Lonnie On 5/2/07, George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nahh, hippies don't have harley's. I was wiring at a hippie market a few years back, and this hippie dude, a real hippie dude, told me that my truck

RE: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread David Peterson
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_disobedience I recommend Thoreau's treatise on the subject. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. Vogel Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 5:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Was

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread George Rogato
Some people ask too much. Ask not what WISPA can do for you, but ask what you can do for WISPA. WISPA, being all of us, can always use a helping hand. Anybody that thinks they can help, should step up to the plate, pay the measly couple hundred bucks, and offer to do something to help, ALL

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread Sam Tetherow
You probably should have then. Last I checked treason was just that, which is what the founding fathers did when they declared their independance from England over unjust taxation (a law) which they refused to pay (ignored/disobeyed it). Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless J. Vogel wrote:

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread George Rogato
eh? I thought it was aye Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: The proper phrase is: yeah but, wait right here, eh? Always end with a question, eh? Lonnie -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread JohnnyO
in BC most say hey - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA? eh? I thought it was aye Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: The proper

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread George Rogato
In Maine, the old time new englander yankees say you can't get theyer from heyer. :) JohnnyO wrote: in BC most say hey - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA]

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread Lonnie Nunweiler
aye is a form of yes, as in aye capn highliner. eh is a form of question, to gain agreement, such as I can do this, eh? Lonnie On 5/2/07, George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: eh? I thought it was aye Lonnie Nunweiler wrote: The proper phrase is: yeah but, wait right here, eh? Always

RE: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Correct, civil disobedience has been used effectively in the past to change things for the better...and the worse. There are consequences to those who take those stands though. Jeff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Cain Sent:

RE: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Get to know your local Congressman. Go to the town hall meetings. Stick around afterward and chat. The meetings are generally poorly attended, and you can often get a LOT of time to discuss things that matter to you. Get involved. I worked on the campaign of my local (ex) Congressman. For 4

Re: [WISPA] WISPA task

2007-05-02 Thread Peter R.
Um, are you too lazy to use Google or any number of other websites to find your Congress Critter's email?? Do you know what your zip code is? Then plug it in here: http://www.rad-info.net/fcc/ (in the red-white-and-blue box that says Write to Congress). - Peter Travis Johnson wrote: Yes!

Re: [WISPA] FCC Regulations Clarification

2007-05-02 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
The rules apply on a per transmitter basis. I know that some systems are able to hop around some known channels. I'm not sure if that extends to 900mhz or not. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)

Re: [WISPA] WISPA task

2007-05-02 Thread Travis Johnson
Um, if you make it easy then people will do it. If it's too hard or takes too much time, people won't. And, for whatever it's worth, I've already emailed over 20 of my reps for my state before you even sent this reply. Travis Microserv Peter R. wrote: Um, are you too lazy to use Google or

Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question

2007-05-02 Thread Peter R.
As I understand it anyone who runs a router has to be CALEA compliant. Call the FCC ... these guys will answer your question and call you back: www.fcc.gov/calea Or ask a Legal Professional like Kris Twomey. Chris Savage or KC Halm from Davis Wright Tremaine LLP will take your questions about

Re: [WISPA] Ok, here's my CALEA statement, and farewell.

2007-05-02 Thread Mike Hammett
I already did. I write my congressmen about once a month. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 1:35 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [WISPA] WISPA task

2007-05-02 Thread Mike Hammett
www.congress.org, I believe. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 1:44 PM Subject: [WISPA] WISPA task Yes! There

Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question

2007-05-02 Thread Mike Hammett
Well, everybody gets their Internet from someone else. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: David Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 1:57 PM Subject:

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
That was the Magna Carta. http://www.odessaoffice.com/constitution/ If you've not ready it, you'd be amazed at the history of it all. Our constitution is partly founded upon that doc as I understand it. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services

Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question

2007-05-02 Thread George Rogato
Hmmm, Well during the dial up days, Jokingly, I was thinking about starting a new internet business. Internet on a disk! . Each week we send you a new disk. We start you off with disk labeled, beginning internet a-ab, next week it will be ac-ad. This way the sites will be fast loading and

Re: [WISPA] Was lemmings... now What is WISPA?

2007-05-02 Thread Mike Hammett
I thought you ended everything with an eh? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Lonnie Nunweiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Was

Re: [WISPA] CALEA Exemption for Small Wireless ISPs

2007-05-02 Thread cw
My opinion is that you're not helping the big picture by saying compliance is more than you can handle. The FCC is not going to go out of their way to hand out more spectrum to providers that can't perform basic requirements. Just like they're not going to help providers that refuse to file 475

Re: [WISPA] CALEA Exemption for Small Wireless ISPs

2007-05-02 Thread Jack Unger
Dear cw, Thank you for your opinion. I respectfully disagree. There's nothing wrong with admitting that small local providers can't afford to comply with the same requirements that big carriers like ATT can comply with. That's the problem here; small local businesses are being asked to shell

Re: [WISPA] CALEA Exemption for Small Wireless ISPs

2007-05-02 Thread George Rogato
I believe the feds have secret deals with the telcos so they can do what ever they want besides calea. Just like I pointed out that fiber att wiretapping deal in the very first days of wispa calea discussion. This is where I see the imbalance, The little guys carry the weight and the big guys

[WISPA] Anyone talk to Aquacom?

2007-05-02 Thread Peter R.
Now even the smallest of operators, whether they are offering wireline voice, broadband Internet, or VOIP services, can leverage our extensive worldwide experience in lawful interception, especially from our work in those countries who for years have required IP lawful interception states

Re: [WISPA] CALEA Exemption for Small Wireless ISPs

2007-05-02 Thread Sam Tetherow
My opinion then, is that the FCC can get off their duffs and provide internet to the hinterlands themselves. There is more to CALEA than having a $500 unix box, and sharing a $7000 turnkey box is not an option unless you are sharing it within a tight geographical area since response times on

Re: [WISPA] Interesting Call Today

2007-05-02 Thread Alan Cain
Travis Johnson wrote: Wow... I got a call today from a lady in Washington, DC wanting 70-80 wireless connections in our area for a 3 month project. It was just a voicemail that she left, and I don't plan to call her back... The ATT rep told our saleperson that he was looking for temporary

RE: [WISPA] WISPA task

2007-05-02 Thread Rick Harnish
On the old WISPA website, I had a drop down list that took you to each state webpage. From those webpages you could find your congressmen. I bet Matt Larsen would put the zipcode search on the new page. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Founding Member

Re: [WISPA] Radio choices

2007-05-02 Thread John Thomas
You could still use Mikrotik as a Hotspot, but not as an AP with radio installed. John Mark McElvy wrote: I am getting ready to expand my network by adding a couple of new towers. The decision I am trying to make is what equipment to buy. My plan was to use Mikrotik for a BH/AP, but with all

Re: [WISPA] CALEA Compliance (Netequalizer)

2007-05-02 Thread John Thomas
For people that run Netequalizers, they are helping you comply As promised, NetEqualizer is now offering the utilities necessary to meet requirements set forth this month by CALEA, or the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act. This law oversees telecommunication security and has

Re: [WISPA] CALEA Exemption for Small Wireless ISPs

2007-05-02 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Uh Sam, you do remember the 5.4 gig band right? 255 mhz of NEW spectrum, made available last year. There's also 24ghz and 60ghz available. We just need people building the new toys at price points that will work for us. Know what I want? A 15 or 20 meg $1500 to $2000 60 gig solution good

Re: [WISPA] Mirrored Switch

2007-05-02 Thread W.D.McKinney
For low cost managed rack mount switches try D-Link. See http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=2pid=86 -Dee Alaska Wireless Systems 1(907)240-2183 Cell 1(907)349-2226 Fax 1(907)349-4308 Office www.akwireless.net - Original Message - From: John Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Mirrored Switch

2007-05-02 Thread John Thomas
Also, most HP Procurves have lifetime warranties. John John Thomas wrote: If you want something a little easier on the pocketbook, managed HP Procurves work well. John Mark Price wrote: Matt wrote: Does anyone reccommend a good switch that supports this and is rack mount? Hopefully

[WISPA] CALEA Question

2007-05-02 Thread Tim Kery
David, Regarding your question, the FCC was referring to Retail Establishments and not Retail Providers. The FCC defines facilities based as follows: facilities-based meant entities that provide transmission or switching over their own facilities between the end user and the Internet Service

Re: [WISPA] CALEA Exemption for Small Wireless ISPs

2007-05-02 Thread Sam Tetherow
You do have a point on the 5.4 Marlon, although it was otherwise unsellable spectrum. The power restrictions along with DFS requirements limited it to something I doubt many would be willing to pay for. Not saying we can't use it though. I'm eagerly awaiting affordable gear since it fits my

Re: [WISPA] CALEA Question

2007-05-02 Thread David E. Smith
The FCC wrote: we conclude that establishments that acquire broadband Internet access service from a facilities-based provider to enable their patrons or customers to access the Internet from their respective establishments are not considered facilities-based broadband Internet access service

Re: [WISPA] CALEA Exemption for Small Wireless ISPs

2007-05-02 Thread John Scrivner
Thank you Jack. I am glad to see someone doing something for their beliefs instead of kicking WISPA in the chins for not doing it for them. WISPA is here for all of you to interact and decide what and how you want to represent yourselves and your industry. Jack knows that means he can do