Re: [WISPA] Copper landlines gone by 2013

2007-06-01 Thread Dawn DiPietro
Sam, My guess is these areas will be sold off to the smaller regional companies with less overhead or they will muscle the states into footing the bill. As someone once said No one wants to be in office when the copper networks go dark. Regards, Dawn DiPietro Sam Tetherow wrote: I don't

Re: [WISPA] Copper landlines gone by 2013

2007-06-01 Thread Blake Bowers
- Original Message - From: Sam Tetherow [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Copper landlines gone by 2013 I don't deny any of that, but I'd be pretty pissed as a telco customer if they are allowed to

[WISPA] H.R. 2054 Universal Service Reform Act of 2007

2007-06-01 Thread Zack Kneisley
Since USF has been brought up, I would like to have the opinion of some of the WISPA members that have more intimate knowledge of the Telco industry than myself on the following H.R Bill 2054 and what if any impact it will have. http://www.benton.org/index.php?q=node/5674

Re: [WISPA] Copper landlines gone by 2013

2007-06-01 Thread Tom DeReggi
Thats Funny. Like A inplace copper plant is more costly to maintain than a new Fiber network? Not likely. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Copper landlines gone by 2013

2007-06-01 Thread George Rogato
I've been pricing fiber for a fiber project I'll be doing. I was shocked to find underground direct fiber for under .25 per foot. I'm pretty certain that my underground cat 5 costs more. George chris cooper wrote: I was at a meeting yesterday that had several large carriers present. One of

Re: [WISPA] Trangolink Giga

2007-06-01 Thread Tom DeReggi
E-Band (70 - 80 GHz). 2.5 miles Not Likely in George's neck of the woods. I think he's in one of the highest Rain/Fog zones (Fade). Possibly Bridgewave's AR80X, if he's got 30+ grand to spend. He's better off with Licensed, which he'll be able to do under 15K. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL

[WISPA] WTS: Bumblebee spectrum analyzer

2007-06-01 Thread David E. Smith
For sale: one like-new BVS Bumblebee handheld spectrum analyzer Full specs of the unit available here: http://www.bvsystems.com/Products/Spectrum/BumbleBee/bumblebee.htm (Ours is basically like the one pictured at the top of that page, except we don't have the corner reflector antenna in their

RE: [WISPA] Copper landlines gone by 2013

2007-06-01 Thread chris cooper
I was at a meeting yesterday that had several large carriers present. One of the carriers made the comment that they are migrating away from copper for new deployments. He said that FTTH is now cheaper than copper due to increased material costs. c -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] H.R. 2054 Universal Service Reform Act of 2007

2007-06-01 Thread Zack Kneisley
Opinions of the totally uninformed and no knowledge of the industry is welcome as well. I think we already read several of those a day anyway ;-) lol Z On 6/1/07, Sam Tetherow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't have an intimate knowledge of the telco industry so I guess you are not asking my

Re: [WISPA] Copper landlines gone by 2013

2007-06-01 Thread Mike Hammett
Well, fiber and copper have been about the same cost to deploy lately because the bulk of the cost is in the labor. It makes sense that fiber is more attractive now because of copper pricing. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message

Re: [WISPA] H.R. 2054 Universal Service Reform Act of 2007

2007-06-01 Thread Sam Tetherow
I don't have an intimate knowledge of the telco industry so I guess you are not asking my opinion, but hey that has never stopped me before. Personally, I don't want to have anything to do with USF funds either charging for them or receiving them. Once in that bed it is pretty hard to get

Re: [WISPA] Trangolink Giga

2007-06-01 Thread George Rogato
I would like something fast and duplex. Guess fast would be 45 megs. 100 would be good. It's a back haul from a fiber feed and it's serving a half a dozen 5gig and 2 gig ap's that are not rate limited. George Gino Villarini wrote: George How much bandwidth needed, range ? Gino A.

RE: [WISPA] Trangolink Giga

2007-06-01 Thread Gino Villarini
Range ? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rogato Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 11:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re:

Re: [WISPA] Copper landlines gone by 2013

2007-06-01 Thread Zack Kneisley
Yes, copper is very popular, local churches getting their building scathed for it's copper. Prices are pretty high, it has gone up steadily since Jan. I can see that fiber could be cheaper in manufacture and in raw material. Z On 6/1/07, Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, fiber and

Re: [WISPA] Trangolink Giga

2007-06-01 Thread George Rogato
Range is about 2.5 miles It crosses a river and the river is fogged in many many mornings. We also are considered a rain forest. Licensed is the preference unless there is something not in the typical 5 gig 2 gig frequencies. George Gino Villarini wrote: Range ? Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] RE: QuickMounts

2007-06-01 Thread Zack Kneisley
Here is a link to several Roof mounts and prices from Tessco http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dgszq7vm_18c559xq Z On 5/31/07, Edward J. Hatfield III [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RE the attached Word document, we've installed dozens of these, and even more variations on the basic themes. They're

Re: [WISPA] Trangolink Giga

2007-06-01 Thread George Rogato
Whats under 15k and licensed? George Tom DeReggi wrote: E-Band (70 - 80 GHz). 2.5 miles Not Likely in George's neck of the woods. I think he's in one of the highest Rain/Fog zones (Fade). Possibly Bridgewave's AR80X, if he's got 30+ grand to spend. He's better off with Licensed, which

RE: [WISPA] Trangolink Giga

2007-06-01 Thread Gino Villarini
Redline AN80 in 5.4 up ghz to 90 mbps Motorola PTP 600 (aka Spectra) in 5.4 ghz (available soon) Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: [WISPA] Trangolink Giga

2007-06-01 Thread George Rogato
I'm hoping to avoid the 5.4 stuff. Figure 5.4 will soon be multi point stuff. I hate to shoot myself in the foot with that. George Gino Villarini wrote: Redline AN80 in 5.4 up ghz to 90 mbps Motorola PTP 600 (aka Spectra) in 5.4 ghz (available soon) Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [WISPA] Trangolink Giga

2007-06-01 Thread Gino Villarini
There are 225 mhz available there ..., Dragonwave Horizon 18 ghz link is a lincensed option. Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

[WISPA] Wireless Service in Detroit Area

2007-06-01 Thread Mike Delp
Does anybody have service close to this address? 28933 Highland Road Romulus, MI 48174 Please contact me off list Thanks Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.3/824 - Release Date: 5/29/2007

RE: [WISPA] Trangolink Giga -- Dragonwave Horizon

2007-06-01 Thread Charles Wu
George, DragonWave 18 Ghz Horizon will most likely do the job for you -- here's a web link for more info: http://www.dragonwaveinc.com/products-horizon.asp What's nice about it is that you can buy it at 50 Mb, and upgrade it (via software) up to 400 Mb The scary thing is the price of licensed

Re: [WISPA] Trangolink Giga -- Dragonwave Horizon

2007-06-01 Thread George Rogato
Thanks Charles Charles Wu wrote: George, DragonWave 18 Ghz Horizon will most likely do the job for you -- here's a web link for more info: http://www.dragonwaveinc.com/products-horizon.asp What's nice about it is that you can buy it at 50 Mb, and upgrade it (via software) up to 400 Mb