Re: [WISPA] Modern Marvels
Yeah I seen that show too. Here's is the tower accident. http://youtube.com/watch?v=eqygUApfnZg Mike Hammett wrote: I just saw about 8 minutes of a Modern Marvels episode that was about towers and safety. It will repeat tonight at 11:00 PM Central. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- George Rogato Welcome to WISPA www.wispa.org http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!
David I just noticed your message asking for an SSH client for BlackBerry. Our product Idokorro Mobile SSH supports sending keys with CTRL, for example you can press CTRL+C and any other combination. As well with the BlackBerry devices QWERTY keyboard it makes SSH a snap. You also mentioned VNC, we also have a product that does that on a BlackBerry, it's called Mobile Desktop. If you have any other questions please contact me! Paul Dumais Idokorro Mobile http://www.idokorro.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 12:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go! I'm looking for a way to keep an eye on my network, and to fix some basic stuff, while hiking, or on vacation, or what-have-you. Ideally, something I could take to a baseball game with me, even. A laptop computer is far too big for what I've got in mind, as it's likely to double as a pass-around pager for whoever's on call this week. Thus, I'm probably limited to a Blackberry or maybe a Windows Mobile device like the Motorola Q, running on a cell phone network. Most of our towers are running Valemount's StarOS software, so we need something that has an SSH client, and that SSH client needs to support key chording (Control-whatever, basically). Most devices like this, a Web browser is a given, which should handle the rest of our needs (looking in on the network monitoring system, and a couple Ligowave towers). The ability to receive (and, maybe, send) emails is important, but that's pretty much guaranteed these days too. (Worst case, I whip up some email-to-SMS voodoo.) VNC support would be swell but probably not strictly needed. (Besides, it'd take forever to scroll around a 1208x1024 desktop on one of those...) I can't be the first one here who's looked at getting a Blackberry (or something similar) to handle basic network stuff remotely. What works? What doesn't? Will I even be sorta-happy with, say, a Blackberry 8700? David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!
Paul, I have considered your product line for our BlackBerries (we have 2). It seems that your pricing was way out of line for a small provider to take on. It seemed that it was more directed at enterprise-level tech support personnel managing a large network with Exchange servers file servers such. Our needs are often that great, but our budgets often aren't. Do you have a pricing solution for us? Mark Nash UnwiredOnline 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Paul Dumais [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 9:03 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go! David I just noticed your message asking for an SSH client for BlackBerry. Our product Idokorro Mobile SSH supports sending keys with CTRL, for example you can press CTRL+C and any other combination. As well with the BlackBerry devices QWERTY keyboard it makes SSH a snap. You also mentioned VNC, we also have a product that does that on a BlackBerry, it's called Mobile Desktop. If you have any other questions please contact me! Paul Dumais Idokorro Mobile http://www.idokorro.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 12:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go! I'm looking for a way to keep an eye on my network, and to fix some basic stuff, while hiking, or on vacation, or what-have-you. Ideally, something I could take to a baseball game with me, even. A laptop computer is far too big for what I've got in mind, as it's likely to double as a pass-around pager for whoever's on call this week. Thus, I'm probably limited to a Blackberry or maybe a Windows Mobile device like the Motorola Q, running on a cell phone network. Most of our towers are running Valemount's StarOS software, so we need something that has an SSH client, and that SSH client needs to support key chording (Control-whatever, basically). Most devices like this, a Web browser is a given, which should handle the rest of our needs (looking in on the network monitoring system, and a couple Ligowave towers). The ability to receive (and, maybe, send) emails is important, but that's pretty much guaranteed these days too. (Worst case, I whip up some email-to-SMS voodoo.) VNC support would be swell but probably not strictly needed. (Besides, it'd take forever to scroll around a 1208x1024 desktop on one of those...) I can't be the first one here who's looked at getting a Blackberry (or something similar) to handle basic network stuff remotely. What works? What doesn't? Will I even be sorta-happy with, say, a Blackberry 8700? David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Help, tranzeo password
Call Tranzeo support @ 1888-460-6366 and they can get you in with the MAC address. Mark McElvy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 10:27 AM To: Conversations over a new WISP Trade Organization Subject: [WISPA] Help, tranzeo password I need the utility to get the Tranzeo password. I am at a subscribers house ans can't get into the radio. Is this something someone can send me, or how is this done. Brian WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!
I have the 8525, its a pretty decent phone, but again its sold for ATT -- you can download keyboard software that has CTRL key functionality. I use pocket putty for ssh currently, and Mocha VNC for.. well, obviously VNC. Phone works pretty well, they are some firmware bugs with it. But its worth looking into. -Tony -- Anthony R. Mattke Network Administrator Cyberlink International 888.293.3693 x4353 [EMAIL PROTECTED] CHUCK PROFITO wrote: HTC 8525 http://www.america.htc.com/products/8525/default.html Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 12:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go! I'm looking for a way to keep an eye on my network, and to fix some basic stuff, while hiking, or on vacation, or what-have-you. Ideally, something I could take to a baseball game with me, even. A laptop computer is far too big for what I've got in mind, as it's likely to double as a pass-around pager for whoever's on call this week. Thus, I'm probably limited to a Blackberry or maybe a Windows Mobile device like the Motorola Q, running on a cell phone network. Most of our towers are running Valemount's StarOS software, so we need something that has an SSH client, and that SSH client needs to support key chording (Control-whatever, basically). Most devices like this, a Web browser is a given, which should handle the rest of our needs (looking in on the network monitoring system, and a couple Ligowave towers). The ability to receive (and, maybe, send) emails is important, but that's pretty much guaranteed these days too. (Worst case, I whip up some email-to-SMS voodoo.) VNC support would be swell but probably not strictly needed. (Besides, it'd take forever to scroll around a 1208x1024 desktop on one of those...) I can't be the first one here who's looked at getting a Blackberry (or something similar) to handle basic network stuff remotely. What works? What doesn't? Will I even be sorta-happy with, say, a Blackberry 8700? David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] FE60U Backhaul
We have decided to look into this particular BH. In doing so, there is one of our vendors that are reporting problems with this unit in rain, snow and fog. Most people I have talked with say that will NOT happen and swear to their dependability. This may be more true given that our link is less than 100yds away and on the roofs of two very high buildings. So, without more chatting here's the questions: 1. what's everyone's opinion on this- any users of it that can tell me those people having problems are aiming wrong or something? 2. What's your experience with it? Regards, Luke Pack Wireless Administrator Internet Services of Northern Illinois (815) 380-3773 Ext. 286 [EMAIL PROTECTED] WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Direc TV and Dish
John - In the Bay Area, DirectTV outsources some of their their installation sales services to another company that is branded DirectTV. I forgot that company's name but they were going to hire me to install Direct TV on a part time/full time basis. Apparantly DirectTV cannot keep up with the demand! So in my humble opinion, you are on the right track. I see many small commerical/medium businesses in SF area with DirectTV dishes. F. --- John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We now have 3 full time installer / techs. I am thinking we should probably be selling Direc TV and Dish along with our wireless Internet. Anyone else doing this? What is good or bad about this? How do I go about becoming a dealer for these products? I have sales experience in Cable TV industry. I used to sell to Motels and such for 3 states. I know we could do this. I also want to do television for the motels around here. Are others doing this with any success? I think Rick Harnish told me he was doing this. Any information is much appreciated. All the best, John Scrivner begin:vcard fn:John Scrivner n:Scrivner;John org:Mt. Vernon. Net, Inc. adr;dom:PO Box 1582;;1 Dr Park Road Suite H1;Mt. Vernon;Il;62864 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:President tel;work:618-244-6868 url:http://www.mvn.net/ version:2.1 end:vcard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FE60U Backhaul
Luke, The unit itself is very reliable however if the link is mis-engineered or mis-aligned then it will be unreliable. My guess is that the vendor reporting the problem has either mis-engineered the link and is trying to make it work over too long of a distance OR they installed the link without a true line-of-sight path. Any obstruction between the two units will prevent reliable operation. By any I mean anything with a physical dimension to it - a pole, a tree, a paint bucket, etc. jack Luke Pack wrote: We have decided to look into this particular BH. In doing so, there is one of our vendors that are reporting problems with this unit in rain, snow and fog. Most people I have talked with say that will NOT happen and swear to their dependability. This may be more true given that our link is less than 100yds away and on the roofs of two very high buildings. So, without more chatting here's the questions: 1. what's everyone's opinion on this- any users of it that can tell me those people having problems are aiming wrong or something? 2. What's your experience with it? Regards, Luke Pack Wireless Administrator Internet Services of Northern Illinois (815) 380-3773 Ext. 286 [EMAIL PROTECTED] WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- Jack Unger ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. FCC License # PG-12-25133 Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 Author of the WISP Handbook - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs True Vendor-Neutral Wireless Consulting-Training-Troubleshooting FCC Part 15 Certification for Manufacturers and Service Providers Phone (VoIP Over Broadband Wireless) 818-227-4220 www.ask-wi.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Seek solar powered Video Surveillance Camera
My professor is doing research in remote pump fields; part of a wireless network. We are seeking a supplier of Solar Powered Video Surveillance Cameras. I plan to install them in a remote area with little access to power; will be part of a wireless network. One of my WISPs used his network but the camera was not solar. He had access to power. Here is what I found on websearch: http://www.oksolar.com/cctv/ip%5Fvideo%5Fanywhere/ http://www.wecusurveillance.com/page/791214 http://www.sunsurveillance.com/ Thank you for your time. Felix Lopez Utilities and Wireless Practitioner Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Birch, just a FYI
Just so some of you know, I know there are a number of WISPs out there that have started out with something like a Birch T1 for some stupid price of $299 delivered, but regardless. I just got them to actually route me a block of IPs, I have the name and number of the people who you need to talk to, just in case you wanted to route in some IPs for your customers. -- Dennis Burgess, MCP, CCNA, A+, N+, Mikrotik Certified Consultant www.mikrotikconsulting.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Need a Enterprise Class RouterOS: www.mikrotikrouter.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!
Mark, it sounds like you are referring to our Mobile Admin product which is directed to enterprises, pricing for Mobile Admin starts at $245/server. The Mobile SSH product that I suggested to David is much more affordable and targeted to individuals at $95, most of our customers agree that the ROI on the SSH product even for an individual or small company is very easy to justify. Paul Dumais Idokorro Mobile Inc. -Original Message- From: Mark Nash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 1:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go! Paul, I have considered your product line for our BlackBerries (we have 2). It seems that your pricing was way out of line for a small provider to take on. It seemed that it was more directed at enterprise-level tech support personnel managing a large network with Exchange servers file servers such. Our needs are often that great, but our budgets often aren't. Do you have a pricing solution for us? Mark Nash UnwiredOnline 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Paul Dumais [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 9:03 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go! David I just noticed your message asking for an SSH client for BlackBerry. Our product Idokorro Mobile SSH supports sending keys with CTRL, for example you can press CTRL+C and any other combination. As well with the BlackBerry devices QWERTY keyboard it makes SSH a snap. You also mentioned VNC, we also have a product that does that on a BlackBerry, it's called Mobile Desktop. If you have any other questions please contact me! Paul Dumais Idokorro Mobile http://www.idokorro.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 12:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go! I'm looking for a way to keep an eye on my network, and to fix some basic stuff, while hiking, or on vacation, or what-have-you. Ideally, something I could take to a baseball game with me, even. A laptop computer is far too big for what I've got in mind, as it's likely to double as a pass-around pager for whoever's on call this week. Thus, I'm probably limited to a Blackberry or maybe a Windows Mobile device like the Motorola Q, running on a cell phone network. Most of our towers are running Valemount's StarOS software, so we need something that has an SSH client, and that SSH client needs to support key chording (Control-whatever, basically). Most devices like this, a Web browser is a given, which should handle the rest of our needs (looking in on the network monitoring system, and a couple Ligowave towers). The ability to receive (and, maybe, send) emails is important, but that's pretty much guaranteed these days too. (Worst case, I whip up some email-to-SMS voodoo.) VNC support would be swell but probably not strictly needed. (Besides, it'd take forever to scroll around a 1208x1024 desktop on one of those...) I can't be the first one here who's looked at getting a Blackberry (or something similar) to handle basic network stuff remotely. What works? What doesn't? Will I even be sorta-happy with, say, a Blackberry 8700? David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth pricing...
In my opinion, it should never go up unless you are switching from a bonded-T1 connection to a fractional DS3. Also, if you are renting your T-1 equipment through the provider, they be charging you more for the better equipment. Can you stay away from bonded T-1's? I'm in a contract now with Sprint for multiple bonded T-1's and if I had done my homework a couple years ago I could've saved about $1k per month on bandwidth. Check for other providers if you haven't already. Check if there is fiber somewhere that you can feed your network with somehow. Think outside the box and go with T-1's as a last resort. Mark Nash UnwiredOnline 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: J. Vogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 8:53 AM Subject: [WISPA] Bandwidth pricing... I just received a quote from ATT for various levels of bandwidth through bonded T1s, where they are quoting not in multiples of 1.5, but in 1mbps increments. Seemed strange to me. However, what I found to be even more confusing was that as the total bandwidth increased, the price/mbps also increased, so that a 10 meg circuit costs $50/mbps more than a 7 meg circuit. Is this common? Is there a rational explanation for it? Thanks for any help understanding this. -- John Vogel - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.vogent.net 620-754-3907 Vogel Enterprises, LLC Information Services Provider serving S.E. Kansas WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Seek solar powered Video Surveillance Camera
Although it's not a complete video-solar solution, it's among the best rated telecom solar gear in the industry. Check out; http://www.kyocerasolar.com/products/indproducts.html Cheers; Giancarlo D'Amico Country Manager ~ Canada Alvarion, Inc. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Toronto: 647-722-5749 x501 Vancouver: 778-785-0525 x501 Mountain View: 650-305-2010 x501 Fax: 905.770.9739 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Felix A. Lopez Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 3:09 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Seek solar powered Video Surveillance Camera My professor is doing research in remote pump fields; part of a wireless network. We are seeking a supplier of Solar Powered Video Surveillance Cameras. I plan to install them in a remote area with little access to power; will be part of a wireless network. One of my WISPs used his network but the camera was not solar. He had access to power. Here is what I found on websearch: http://www.oksolar.com/cctv/ip%5Fvideo%5Fanywhere/ http://www.wecusurveillance.com/page/791214 http://www.sunsurveillance.com/ Thank you for your time. Felix Lopez Utilities and Wireless Practitioner Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(190). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(42). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(84). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing your network onthego-go-go!
Paul - I recall a wireless operator wanted his field technician to be able to VPN into their server (using his handheld PDA) and download trouble tickets for field repair jobs on CPE, check network status, etc. They wanted to do this over Verizon but also WiFi. And they wanted session persistence so the field technician did not have to relog-in (re-authenticate) every-time he dropped the signal...or They wanted to keep the trouble ticket 'hot' and I think you can do this with the volatile memory on the PDA which then refreshes when you gain the signal. Can you talk about this, your experiences, and your product? Thanks Felix Lopez San Francisco, CA Utilities and Wireless Practitioner --- Paul Dumais [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our VNC product is called Mobile Desktop (also supports RDP and SSH tunneling) and it is $45. Paul Dumais Idokorro Mobile Inc. -Original Message- From: Mark Nash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 1:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing your network onthego-go-go! That's better... What about the mobile VNC? Mark Nash UnwiredOnline 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Paul Dumais [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 10:49 AM Subject: RE: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on thego-go-go! Mark, it sounds like you are referring to our Mobile Admin product which is directed to enterprises, pricing for Mobile Admin starts at $245/server. The Mobile SSH product that I suggested to David is much more affordable and targeted to individuals at $95, most of our customers agree that the ROI on the SSH product even for an individual or small company is very easy to justify. Paul Dumais Idokorro Mobile Inc. -Original Message- From: Mark Nash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 1:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go! Paul, I have considered your product line for our BlackBerries (we have 2). It seems that your pricing was way out of line for a small provider to take on. It seemed that it was more directed at enterprise-level tech support personnel managing a large network with Exchange servers file servers such. Our needs are often that great, but our budgets often aren't. Do you have a pricing solution for us? Mark Nash UnwiredOnline 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Paul Dumais [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 9:03 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go! David I just noticed your message asking for an SSH client for BlackBerry. Our product Idokorro Mobile SSH supports sending keys with CTRL, for example you can press CTRL+C and any other combination. As well with the BlackBerry devices QWERTY keyboard it makes SSH a snap. You also mentioned VNC, we also have a product that does that on a BlackBerry, it's called Mobile Desktop. If you have any other questions please contact me! Paul Dumais Idokorro Mobile http://www.idokorro.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 12:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go! I'm looking for a way to keep an eye on my network, and to fix some basic stuff, while hiking, or on vacation, or what-have-you. Ideally, something I could take to a baseball game with me, even. A laptop computer is far too big for what I've got in mind, as it's likely to double as a pass-around pager for whoever's on call this week. Thus, I'm probably limited to a Blackberry or maybe a Windows Mobile device like the Motorola Q, running on a cell phone network. Most of our towers are running Valemount's StarOS software, so we need something that has an SSH client, and that SSH client needs to support key chording (Control-whatever, basically). Most devices like this, a Web browser is a given, which should handle the rest of our needs (looking in on the network monitoring system, and a couple Ligowave towers). The ability to receive (and, maybe, send) emails is important, but that's pretty much guaranteed these days too. (Worst case, I whip up some email-to-SMS voodoo.) VNC support would be swell but probably not strictly needed. (Besides, it'd take forever to scroll around a 1208x1024 desktop on one of those...) I can't be the first one here who's looked at getting a Blackberry (or something similar) to handle basic
RE: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing your networkonthego-go-go!
This looks interesting... http://3sp.com/showSslExplorerCommunity.do Open source web based WirelessGuys David Peterson Senior Wireless Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 207 W. Los Angeles Avenue, Suite 300 Moorpark, CA 93021-1862 tel: 800-945-3294 ext 102 mobile: 979.224.4192 AIM: ultramesh inc Skype ID:nexuswirelessusa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Felix A. Lopez Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 2:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing your networkonthego-go-go! Paul - I recall a wireless operator wanted his field technician to be able to VPN into their server (using his handheld PDA) and download trouble tickets for field repair jobs on CPE, check network status, etc. They wanted to do this over Verizon but also WiFi. And they wanted session persistence so the field technician did not have to relog-in (re-authenticate) every-time he dropped the signal...or They wanted to keep the trouble ticket 'hot' and I think you can do this with the volatile memory on the PDA which then refreshes when you gain the signal. Can you talk about this, your experiences, and your product? Thanks Felix Lopez San Francisco, CA Utilities and Wireless Practitioner --- Paul Dumais [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our VNC product is called Mobile Desktop (also supports RDP and SSH tunneling) and it is $45. Paul Dumais Idokorro Mobile Inc. -Original Message- From: Mark Nash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 1:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing your network onthego-go-go! That's better... What about the mobile VNC? Mark Nash UnwiredOnline 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Paul Dumais [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 10:49 AM Subject: RE: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on thego-go-go! Mark, it sounds like you are referring to our Mobile Admin product which is directed to enterprises, pricing for Mobile Admin starts at $245/server. The Mobile SSH product that I suggested to David is much more affordable and targeted to individuals at $95, most of our customers agree that the ROI on the SSH product even for an individual or small company is very easy to justify. Paul Dumais Idokorro Mobile Inc. -Original Message- From: Mark Nash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 1:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go! Paul, I have considered your product line for our BlackBerries (we have 2). It seems that your pricing was way out of line for a small provider to take on. It seemed that it was more directed at enterprise-level tech support personnel managing a large network with Exchange servers file servers such. Our needs are often that great, but our budgets often aren't. Do you have a pricing solution for us? Mark Nash UnwiredOnline 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Paul Dumais [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 9:03 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go! David I just noticed your message asking for an SSH client for BlackBerry. Our product Idokorro Mobile SSH supports sending keys with CTRL, for example you can press CTRL+C and any other combination. As well with the BlackBerry devices QWERTY keyboard it makes SSH a snap. You also mentioned VNC, we also have a product that does that on a BlackBerry, it's called Mobile Desktop. If you have any other questions please contact me! Paul Dumais Idokorro Mobile http://www.idokorro.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 12:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go! I'm looking for a way to keep an eye on my network, and to fix some basic stuff, while hiking, or on vacation, or what-have-you. Ideally, something I could take to a baseball game with me, even. A laptop computer is far too big for what I've got in mind, as it's likely to double as a pass-around pager for whoever's on call this week. Thus, I'm probably limited to a Blackberry or maybe a Windows Mobile device like the Motorola Q, running on a cell phone network. Most of our towers are running Valemount's StarOS software, so we need something that has an SSH client, and that SSH client needs to support key chording
RE: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing your network onthego-go-go!
Our VNC product is called Mobile Desktop (also supports RDP and SSH tunneling) and it is $45. Paul Dumais Idokorro Mobile Inc. -Original Message- From: Mark Nash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 1:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing your network onthego-go-go! That's better... What about the mobile VNC? Mark Nash UnwiredOnline 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Paul Dumais [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 10:49 AM Subject: RE: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on thego-go-go! Mark, it sounds like you are referring to our Mobile Admin product which is directed to enterprises, pricing for Mobile Admin starts at $245/server. The Mobile SSH product that I suggested to David is much more affordable and targeted to individuals at $95, most of our customers agree that the ROI on the SSH product even for an individual or small company is very easy to justify. Paul Dumais Idokorro Mobile Inc. -Original Message- From: Mark Nash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 1:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go! Paul, I have considered your product line for our BlackBerries (we have 2). It seems that your pricing was way out of line for a small provider to take on. It seemed that it was more directed at enterprise-level tech support personnel managing a large network with Exchange servers file servers such. Our needs are often that great, but our budgets often aren't. Do you have a pricing solution for us? Mark Nash UnwiredOnline 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Paul Dumais [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 9:03 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go! David I just noticed your message asking for an SSH client for BlackBerry. Our product Idokorro Mobile SSH supports sending keys with CTRL, for example you can press CTRL+C and any other combination. As well with the BlackBerry devices QWERTY keyboard it makes SSH a snap. You also mentioned VNC, we also have a product that does that on a BlackBerry, it's called Mobile Desktop. If you have any other questions please contact me! Paul Dumais Idokorro Mobile http://www.idokorro.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 12:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go! I'm looking for a way to keep an eye on my network, and to fix some basic stuff, while hiking, or on vacation, or what-have-you. Ideally, something I could take to a baseball game with me, even. A laptop computer is far too big for what I've got in mind, as it's likely to double as a pass-around pager for whoever's on call this week. Thus, I'm probably limited to a Blackberry or maybe a Windows Mobile device like the Motorola Q, running on a cell phone network. Most of our towers are running Valemount's StarOS software, so we need something that has an SSH client, and that SSH client needs to support key chording (Control-whatever, basically). Most devices like this, a Web browser is a given, which should handle the rest of our needs (looking in on the network monitoring system, and a couple Ligowave towers). The ability to receive (and, maybe, send) emails is important, but that's pretty much guaranteed these days too. (Worst case, I whip up some email-to-SMS voodoo.) VNC support would be swell but probably not strictly needed. (Besides, it'd take forever to scroll around a 1208x1024 desktop on one of those...) I can't be the first one here who's looked at getting a Blackberry (or something similar) to handle basic network stuff remotely. What works? What doesn't? Will I even be sorta-happy with, say, a Blackberry 8700? David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
[WISPA] Help, tranzeo password
I need the utility to get the Tranzeo password. I am at a subscribers house ans can't get into the radio. Is this something someone can send me, or how is this done. Brian WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Direc TV and Dish
Can you actually make any money when you take into account all the costs of doing the install vs. what they pay for the install? It seems like they pay a pretty slim fee. A couple service calls can eat up your profit pretty quickly. I could see it making sense if your labor is not fully employed, but if you are booked pretty well doing your own installs, I would think it would make sense to spend as much time as possible generating recurring revenue. Just my $.02 c -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 8:52 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Direc TV and Dish John, We sell Dish but gave up on DirecTV about 6 months ago. We have also installed Wildblue for two years now. I can put you in contact with a large distributor of Dish/DirecTv in the Midwest if you want to pursue it. Rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 7:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Direc TV and Dish We now have 3 full time installer / techs. I am thinking we should probably be selling Direc TV and Dish along with our wireless Internet. Anyone else doing this? What is good or bad about this? How do I go about becoming a dealer for these products? I have sales experience in Cable TV industry. I used to sell to Motels and such for 3 states. I know we could do this. I also want to do television for the motels around here. Are others doing this with any success? I think Rick Harnish told me he was doing this. Any information is much appreciated. All the best, John Scrivner No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.10/943 - Release Date: 8/8/2007 5:38 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.10/943 - Release Date: 8/8/2007 5:38 PM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing your network onthego-go-go!
Felix A. Lopez wrote: Paul - I recall a wireless operator wanted his field technician to be able to VPN into their server (using his handheld PDA) and download trouble tickets for field repair jobs on CPE, check network status, etc. They wanted to do this over Verizon but also WiFi. And they wanted session persistence so the field technician did not have to relog-in (re-authenticate) every-time he dropped the signal...or They wanted to keep the trouble ticket 'hot' and I think you can do this with the volatile memory on the PDA which then refreshes when you gain the signal. Can you talk about this, your experiences, and your product? Thanks Felix Lopez San Francisco, CA Utilities and Wireless Practitioner --- Paul Dumais [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our VNC product is called Mobile Desktop (also supports RDP and SSH tunneling) and it is $45. Paul Dumais Idokorro Mobile Inc. -Original Message- From: Mark Nash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 1:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing your network onthego-go-go! That's better... What about the mobile VNC? Mark Nash UnwiredOnline 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Paul Dumais [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 10:49 AM Subject: RE: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on thego-go-go! Mark, it sounds like you are referring to our Mobile Admin product which is directed to enterprises, pricing for Mobile Admin starts at $245/server. The Mobile SSH product that I suggested to David is much more affordable and targeted to individuals at $95, most of our customers agree that the ROI on the SSH product even for an individual or small company is very easy to justify. Paul Dumais Idokorro Mobile Inc. -Original Message- From: Mark Nash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 1:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go! Paul, I have considered your product line for our BlackBerries (we have 2). It seems that your pricing was way out of line for a small provider to take on. It seemed that it was more directed at enterprise-level tech support personnel managing a large network with Exchange servers file servers such. Our needs are often that great, but our budgets often aren't. Do you have a pricing solution for us? Mark Nash UnwiredOnline 350 Holly Street Junction City, OR 97448 http://www.uwol.net 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax - Original Message - From: Paul Dumais [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 9:03 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go! David I just noticed your message asking for an SSH client for BlackBerry. Our product Idokorro Mobile SSH supports sending keys with CTRL, for example you can press CTRL+C and any other combination. As well with the BlackBerry devices QWERTY keyboard it makes SSH a snap. You also mentioned VNC, we also have a product that does that on a BlackBerry, it's called Mobile Desktop. If you have any other questions please contact me! Paul Dumais Idokorro Mobile http://www.idokorro.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David E. Smith Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 12:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go! I'm looking for a way to keep an eye on my network, and to fix some basic stuff, while hiking, or on vacation, or what-have-you. Ideally, something I could take to a baseball game with me, even. A laptop computer is far too big for what I've got in mind, as it's likely to double as a pass-around pager for whoever's on call this week. Thus, I'm probably limited to a Blackberry or maybe a Windows Mobile device like the Motorola Q, running on a cell phone network. Most of our towers are running Valemount's StarOS software, so we need something that has an SSH client, and that SSH client needs to support key chording (Control-whatever, basically). Most devices like this, a Web browser is a given, which should handle the rest of our needs (looking in on the network monitoring system, and a couple Ligowave towers). The ability to receive (and, maybe, send) emails is important, but that's pretty much guaranteed these days too. (Worst case, I whip up some email-to-SMS voodoo.) VNC support would be swell but probably not strictly needed. (Besides, it'd take forever to scroll around a 1208x1024 desktop on one of those...) I can't be the first one here who's looked at getting a Blackberry (or something similar) to handle basic network stuff remotely. What works? What doesn't? Will I even be sorta-happy with, say, a Blackberry 8700? David Smith
[WISPA] Nice detailed interview article about MetroBridge (a WISP in both BC and AZ)
On Steve Stroh's site (a site you should all have book marked and check frequently). http://www.bwianews.com/2007/08/interview-with-.html Patrick This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(84). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Unlicensed Devices in the TV Bands (was: FCC SaysWhite-Space Spectrum Device Doesn't Work)
For sure it will be used for BWIA Butch, but the devil is in the details: what kind of BWIA? Access to the Internet, certainly, but also likely some advanced services within that. - Patrick Btw, what does IIRC mean? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 9:50 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WISPA] Unlicensed Devices in the TV Bands (was: FCC SaysWhite-Space Spectrum Device Doesn't Work) On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, Patrick Leary wrote: Wow, what an awesome post. Thank you Sascha. I don't know I continually need to re-learn the lesson that what is reported in often not true and never the whole story. I'd agree with you, Patrick. It is certainly a frightening reality that only part of the story was told. You were recently at the wrong end of this same kind of thing, IIRC. As for the band and device possibilities, I am not sure I agree with your assessment of it's uses. Well, not entirely. I think you are correct (I wouldn't presume to argue with your view of the industry) in that this band will see uses far beyond simple bwia. Am I understanding your viewpoint correctly when I assume that you are stating that bwia is not likely to be used widely in this band? -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 http://www.butchevans.com/ My calendar: http://tinyurl.com/y24ad6 Training Partners: http://tinyurl.com/smfkf Mikrotik Certified Consultant http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(190). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(42). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(84). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Unlicensed Devices in the TV Bands (was: FCC SaysWhite-Space Spectrum Device Doesn't Work)
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007, Patrick Leary wrote: For sure it will be used for BWIA Butch, but the devil is in the details: what kind of BWIA? Access to the Internet, certainly, but also likely some advanced services within that. Ahh.. I see what you meant now. Btw, what does IIRC mean? If I Recall Correctly. :-) -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 http://www.butchevans.com/ My calendar: http://tinyurl.com/y24ad6 Training Partners: http://tinyurl.com/smfkf Mikrotik Certified Consultant http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Unlicensed Devices in the TV Bands (was: FCC SaysWhite-Space Spectrum Device Doesn't Work)
http://www.netlingo.com/lookup.cfm?term=IIRC -RickG On 8/10/07, Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For sure it will be used for BWIA Butch, but the devil is in the details: what kind of BWIA? Access to the Internet, certainly, but also likely some advanced services within that. - Patrick Btw, what does IIRC mean? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 9:50 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WISPA] Unlicensed Devices in the TV Bands (was: FCC SaysWhite-Space Spectrum Device Doesn't Work) On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, Patrick Leary wrote: Wow, what an awesome post. Thank you Sascha. I don't know I continually need to re-learn the lesson that what is reported in often not true and never the whole story. I'd agree with you, Patrick. It is certainly a frightening reality that only part of the story was told. You were recently at the wrong end of this same kind of thing, IIRC. As for the band and device possibilities, I am not sure I agree with your assessment of it's uses. Well, not entirely. I think you are correct (I wouldn't presume to argue with your view of the industry) in that this band will see uses far beyond simple bwia. Am I understanding your viewpoint correctly when I assume that you are stating that bwia is not likely to be used widely in this band? -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 http://www.butchevans.com/ My calendar: http://tinyurl.com/y24ad6 Training Partners: http://tinyurl.com/smfkf Mikrotik Certified Consultant http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(190). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(42). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(84). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Unlicensed Devices in the TV Bands (was: FCCSaysWhite-Space Spectrum Device Doesn't Work)
Yes, you recalled correctly. :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 7:14 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Unlicensed Devices in the TV Bands (was: FCCSaysWhite-Space Spectrum Device Doesn't Work) On Fri, 10 Aug 2007, Patrick Leary wrote: For sure it will be used for BWIA Butch, but the devil is in the details: what kind of BWIA? Access to the Internet, certainly, but also likely some advanced services within that. Ahh.. I see what you meant now. Btw, what does IIRC mean? If I Recall Correctly. :-) -- Butch Evans Network Engineering and Security Consulting 573-276-2879 http://www.butchevans.com/ My calendar: http://tinyurl.com/y24ad6 Training Partners: http://tinyurl.com/smfkf Mikrotik Certified Consultant http://www.mikrotik.com/consultants.html WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(190). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(42). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses(84). This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals computer viruses. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/