Re: [WISPA] Modern Marvels

2007-08-10 Thread George Rogato

Yeah
I seen that show too. Here's is the tower accident.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eqygUApfnZg



Mike Hammett wrote:

I just saw about 8 minutes of a Modern Marvels episode that was about towers 
and safety.  It will repeat tonight at 11:00 PM Central.


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RE: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!

2007-08-10 Thread Paul Dumais
David I just noticed your message asking for an SSH client for
BlackBerry.  Our product Idokorro Mobile SSH supports sending keys with
CTRL, for example you can press CTRL+C and any other combination.  As
well with the BlackBerry devices QWERTY keyboard it makes SSH a snap.

You also mentioned VNC, we also have a product that does that on a
BlackBerry, it's called Mobile Desktop.

If you have any other questions please contact me!

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
 Behalf Of David E. Smith
 Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 12:07 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!
 
 
 I'm looking for a way to keep an eye on my network, and to fix some 
 basic stuff, while hiking, or on vacation, or what-have-you. Ideally, 
 something I could take to a baseball game with me, even.
 
 A laptop computer is far too big for what I've got in mind, as it's 
 likely to double as a pass-around pager for whoever's on call this 
 week. Thus, I'm probably limited to a Blackberry or maybe a Windows 
 Mobile device like the Motorola Q, running on a cell phone network.
 
 Most of our towers are running Valemount's StarOS software, so we need

 something that has an SSH client, and that SSH client needs to support

 key chording (Control-whatever, basically). Most devices like this, a 
 Web browser is a given, which should handle the rest of our needs 
 (looking in on the network monitoring system, and a couple Ligowave 
 towers). The ability to receive (and, maybe, send) emails is
important, 
 but that's pretty much guaranteed these days too. (Worst case, I whip
up 
 some email-to-SMS voodoo.)
 
 VNC support would be swell but probably not strictly needed. (Besides,

 it'd take forever to scroll around a 1208x1024 desktop on one of
those...)
 
 I can't be the first one here who's looked at getting a Blackberry (or

 something similar) to handle basic network stuff remotely. What works?

 What doesn't? Will I even be sorta-happy with, say, a Blackberry 8700?
 
 David Smith
 MVN.net



 
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BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!

2007-08-10 Thread Mark Nash
Paul, I have considered your product line for our BlackBerries (we have 2). 
It seems that your pricing was way out of line for a small provider to take 
on.  It seemed that it was more directed at enterprise-level tech support 
personnel managing a large network with Exchange servers  file servers  
such.  Our needs are often that great, but our budgets often aren't.


Do you have a pricing solution for us?

Mark Nash
UnwiredOnline
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Dumais [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 9:03 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!


David I just noticed your message asking for an SSH client for
BlackBerry.  Our product Idokorro Mobile SSH supports sending keys with
CTRL, for example you can press CTRL+C and any other combination.  As
well with the BlackBerry devices QWERTY keyboard it makes SSH a snap.

You also mentioned VNC, we also have a product that does that on a
BlackBerry, it's called Mobile Desktop.

If you have any other questions please contact me!

Paul Dumais
Idokorro Mobile
http://www.idokorro.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On

Behalf Of David E. Smith
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 12:07 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!


I'm looking for a way to keep an eye on my network, and to fix some
basic stuff, while hiking, or on vacation, or what-have-you. Ideally,
something I could take to a baseball game with me, even.

A laptop computer is far too big for what I've got in mind, as it's
likely to double as a pass-around pager for whoever's on call this
week. Thus, I'm probably limited to a Blackberry or maybe a Windows
Mobile device like the Motorola Q, running on a cell phone network.

Most of our towers are running Valemount's StarOS software, so we need



something that has an SSH client, and that SSH client needs to support



key chording (Control-whatever, basically). Most devices like this, a
Web browser is a given, which should handle the rest of our needs
(looking in on the network monitoring system, and a couple Ligowave
towers). The ability to receive (and, maybe, send) emails is

important,

but that's pretty much guaranteed these days too. (Worst case, I whip

up

some email-to-SMS voodoo.)

VNC support would be swell but probably not strictly needed. (Besides,



it'd take forever to scroll around a 1208x1024 desktop on one of

those...)


I can't be the first one here who's looked at getting a Blackberry (or



something similar) to handle basic network stuff remotely. What works?



What doesn't? Will I even be sorta-happy with, say, a Blackberry 8700?

David Smith
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RE: [WISPA] Help, tranzeo password

2007-08-10 Thread Mark McElvy
Call Tranzeo support @ 1888-460-6366 and they can get you in with the
MAC address. 

Mark McElvy


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Subject: [WISPA] Help, tranzeo password

I need the utility to get the Tranzeo password.  I am at a subscribers 
house ans can't get into the radio.  Is this something someone can send 
me, or how is this done.

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Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!

2007-08-10 Thread Anthony R. Mattke
I have the 8525, its a pretty decent phone, but again its sold for ATT 
-- you can download keyboard software that has CTRL key functionality. 
I use pocket putty for ssh currently, and Mocha VNC for.. well, 
obviously VNC.


Phone works pretty well, they are some firmware bugs with it. But its 
worth looking into.


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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of David E. Smith
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 12:07 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!


I'm looking for a way to keep an eye on my network, and to fix some 
basic stuff, while hiking, or on vacation, or what-have-you. Ideally, 
something I could take to a baseball game with me, even.


A laptop computer is far too big for what I've got in mind, as it's 
likely to double as a pass-around pager for whoever's on call this 
week. Thus, I'm probably limited to a Blackberry or maybe a Windows 
Mobile device like the Motorola Q, running on a cell phone network.


Most of our towers are running Valemount's StarOS software, so we need 
something that has an SSH client, and that SSH client needs to support 
key chording (Control-whatever, basically). Most devices like this, a 
Web browser is a given, which should handle the rest of our needs 
(looking in on the network monitoring system, and a couple Ligowave 
towers). The ability to receive (and, maybe, send) emails is important, 
but that's pretty much guaranteed these days too. (Worst case, I whip up 
some email-to-SMS voodoo.)


VNC support would be swell but probably not strictly needed. (Besides, 
it'd take forever to scroll around a 1208x1024 desktop on one of those...)


I can't be the first one here who's looked at getting a Blackberry (or 
something similar) to handle basic network stuff remotely. What works? 
What doesn't? Will I even be sorta-happy with, say, a Blackberry 8700?


David Smith
MVN.net


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[WISPA] FE60U Backhaul

2007-08-10 Thread Luke Pack
We have decided to look into this particular BH.  In doing so, there is one of 
our vendors that are reporting problems with this unit in rain, snow and fog.  
Most people I have talked with say that will NOT happen and swear to their 
dependability.  This may be more true given that our link is less than 100yds 
away and on the roofs of two very high buildings.  So, without more chatting 
here's the questions:

1. what's everyone's opinion on this- any users of it that can tell me those 
people having problems are aiming wrong or something?
2. What's your experience with it?

Regards,

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 Internet Services of Northern Illinois
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Re: [WISPA] Direc TV and Dish

2007-08-10 Thread Felix A. Lopez
John - In the Bay Area, DirectTV outsources some of
their their installation sales services to another
company that is branded DirectTV. I forgot that
company's name but they were going to hire me to
install Direct TV on a part time/full time basis. 
Apparantly DirectTV cannot keep up with the demand! 

So in my humble opinion, you are on the right track. 
I see many small commerical/medium businesses in SF
area with DirectTV dishes.

F.


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 thinking we should 
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 wireless Internet. 
 Anyone else doing this? What is good or bad about
 this? How do I go 
 about becoming a dealer for these products? I have
 sales experience in 
 Cable TV industry. I used to sell to Motels and such
 for 3 states. I 
 know we could do this. I also want to do television
 for the motels 
 around here. Are others doing this with any success?
 I think Rick 
 Harnish told me he was doing this. Any information
 is much appreciated.
 All the best,
 John Scrivner
 
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Re: [WISPA] FE60U Backhaul

2007-08-10 Thread Jack Unger

Luke,

The unit itself is very reliable however if the link is mis-engineered 
or mis-aligned then it will be unreliable. My guess is that the vendor 
reporting the problem has either mis-engineered the link and is trying 
to make it work over too long of a distance OR they installed the link 
without a true line-of-sight path. Any obstruction between the two units 
will prevent reliable operation. By any I mean anything with a 
physical dimension to it - a pole, a tree, a paint bucket, etc.


jack


Luke Pack wrote:

We have decided to look into this particular BH.  In doing so, there is one of 
our vendors that are reporting problems with this unit in rain, snow and fog.  
Most people I have talked with say that will NOT happen and swear to their 
dependability.  This may be more true given that our link is less than 100yds 
away and on the roofs of two very high buildings.  So, without more chatting 
here's the questions:

1. what's everyone's opinion on this- any users of it that can tell me those 
people having problems are aiming wrong or something?
2. What's your experience with it?

Regards,

Luke Pack
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 Internet Services of Northern Illinois
 (815) 380-3773 Ext. 286
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[WISPA] Seek solar powered Video Surveillance Camera

2007-08-10 Thread Felix A. Lopez

My professor is doing research in remote pump fields;
part of a wireless network. We are seeking a supplier
of Solar Powered Video Surveillance Cameras. I plan
to install them in a remote area with little access to
power; will be part of a wireless network. One of my
WISPs used his network but the camera was not solar.
He had access to power.

Here is what I found on websearch:

http://www.oksolar.com/cctv/ip%5Fvideo%5Fanywhere/
http://www.wecusurveillance.com/page/791214
http://www.sunsurveillance.com/

Thank you for your time.
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[WISPA] Birch, just a FYI

2007-08-10 Thread Dennis Burgess
Just so some of you know, I know there are a number of WISPs out there that
have started out with something like a Birch T1 for some stupid price of
$299 delivered, but regardless.  I just got them to actually route me a
block of IPs, I have the name and number of the people who you need to talk
to, just in case you wanted to route in some IPs for your customers.

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RE: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!

2007-08-10 Thread Paul Dumais
Mark, it sounds like you are referring to our Mobile Admin product which
is directed to enterprises, pricing for Mobile Admin starts at
$245/server.

The Mobile SSH product that I suggested to David is much more affordable
and targeted to individuals at $95, most of our customers agree that the
ROI on the SSH product even for an individual or small company is very
easy to justify.

Paul Dumais
Idokorro Mobile Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Mark Nash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 1:31 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the
go-go-go!

Paul, I have considered your product line for our BlackBerries (we have
2). 
It seems that your pricing was way out of line for a small provider to
take 
on.  It seemed that it was more directed at enterprise-level tech
support 
personnel managing a large network with Exchange servers  file servers
 
such.  Our needs are often that great, but our budgets often aren't.

Do you have a pricing solution for us?

Mark Nash
UnwiredOnline
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Dumais [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 9:03 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!


David I just noticed your message asking for an SSH client for
BlackBerry.  Our product Idokorro Mobile SSH supports sending keys with
CTRL, for example you can press CTRL+C and any other combination.  As
well with the BlackBerry devices QWERTY keyboard it makes SSH a snap.

You also mentioned VNC, we also have a product that does that on a
BlackBerry, it's called Mobile Desktop.

If you have any other questions please contact me!

Paul Dumais
Idokorro Mobile
http://www.idokorro.com

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
 Behalf Of David E. Smith
 Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 12:07 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!


 I'm looking for a way to keep an eye on my network, and to fix some
 basic stuff, while hiking, or on vacation, or what-have-you. Ideally,
 something I could take to a baseball game with me, even.

 A laptop computer is far too big for what I've got in mind, as it's
 likely to double as a pass-around pager for whoever's on call this
 week. Thus, I'm probably limited to a Blackberry or maybe a Windows
 Mobile device like the Motorola Q, running on a cell phone network.

 Most of our towers are running Valemount's StarOS software, so we need

 something that has an SSH client, and that SSH client needs to support

 key chording (Control-whatever, basically). Most devices like this, a
 Web browser is a given, which should handle the rest of our needs
 (looking in on the network monitoring system, and a couple Ligowave
 towers). The ability to receive (and, maybe, send) emails is
important,
 but that's pretty much guaranteed these days too. (Worst case, I whip
up
 some email-to-SMS voodoo.)

 VNC support would be swell but probably not strictly needed. (Besides,

 it'd take forever to scroll around a 1208x1024 desktop on one of
those...)

 I can't be the first one here who's looked at getting a Blackberry (or

 something similar) to handle basic network stuff remotely. What works?

 What doesn't? Will I even be sorta-happy with, say, a Blackberry 8700?

 David Smith
 MVN.net



 
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Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth pricing...

2007-08-10 Thread Mark Nash
In my opinion, it should never go up unless you are switching from a 
bonded-T1 connection to a fractional DS3.  Also, if you are renting your T-1 
equipment through the provider, they be charging you more for the better 
equipment.  Can you stay away from bonded T-1's?  I'm in a contract now with 
Sprint for multiple bonded T-1's and if I had done my homework a couple 
years ago I could've saved about $1k per month on bandwidth.


Check for other providers if you haven't already.  Check if there is fiber 
somewhere that you can feed your network with somehow.  Think outside the 
box and go with T-1's as a last resort.


Mark Nash
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Junction City, OR 97448
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Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 8:53 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Bandwidth pricing...



I just received a quote from ATT for various levels of bandwidth
through bonded T1s, where they are quoting not in multiples of 1.5,
but in 1mbps increments. Seemed strange to me. However, what I
found to be even more confusing was that as the total bandwidth
increased, the price/mbps also increased, so that a 10 meg circuit
costs $50/mbps more than a 7 meg circuit. Is this common? Is there
a rational explanation for it?

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RE: [WISPA] Seek solar powered Video Surveillance Camera

2007-08-10 Thread Giancarlo D'Amico
Although it's not a complete video-solar solution, it's among the best
rated telecom solar gear in the industry.
 
Check out;
http://www.kyocerasolar.com/products/indproducts.html

Cheers;
Giancarlo D'Amico
Country Manager ~ Canada
Alvarion, Inc.
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Toronto:  647-722-5749  x501
Vancouver: 778-785-0525  x501
Mountain View:  650-305-2010  x501
Fax: 905.770.9739

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Behalf Of Felix A. Lopez
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 3:09 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] Seek solar powered Video Surveillance Camera


My professor is doing research in remote pump fields;
part of a wireless network. We are seeking a supplier
of Solar Powered Video Surveillance Cameras. I plan
to install them in a remote area with little access to
power; will be part of a wireless network. One of my
WISPs used his network but the camera was not solar.
He had access to power.

Here is what I found on websearch:

http://www.oksolar.com/cctv/ip%5Fvideo%5Fanywhere/
http://www.wecusurveillance.com/page/791214
http://www.sunsurveillance.com/

Thank you for your time.
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RE: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing your network onthego-go-go!

2007-08-10 Thread Felix A. Lopez
Paul - I recall a wireless operator wanted his field
technician to be able to VPN into their server (using
his handheld PDA) and download trouble tickets for
field repair jobs on CPE, check network status, etc. 
They wanted to do this over Verizon but also WiFi. And
they wanted session persistence so the field
technician did not have to relog-in (re-authenticate)
every-time he dropped the signal...or They wanted to
keep the trouble ticket 'hot' and I think you can do
this with the volatile memory on the PDA which then
refreshes when you gain the signal.

Can you talk about this, your experiences, and your
product?

Thanks
Felix Lopez
San Francisco, CA
Utilities and Wireless Practitioner 





--- Paul Dumais [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Our VNC product is called Mobile Desktop (also
 supports RDP and SSH
 tunneling) and it is $45.
 
 Paul Dumais
 Idokorro Mobile Inc.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Nash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 1:50 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA]
 Managing your network
 onthego-go-go!
 
 That's better... What about the mobile VNC?
 
 Mark Nash
 UnwiredOnline
 350 Holly Street
 Junction City, OR 97448
 http://www.uwol.net
 541-998-
 541-998-5599 fax
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Paul Dumais [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 10:49 AM
 Subject: RE: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA]
 Managing your network on 
 thego-go-go!
 
 
 Mark, it sounds like you are referring to our Mobile
 Admin product which
 is directed to enterprises, pricing for Mobile Admin
 starts at
 $245/server.
 
 The Mobile SSH product that I suggested to David is
 much more affordable
 and targeted to individuals at $95, most of our
 customers agree that the
 ROI on the SSH product even for an individual or
 small company is very
 easy to justify.
 
 Paul Dumais
 Idokorro Mobile Inc.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Nash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 1:31 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing
 your network on the
 go-go-go!
 
 Paul, I have considered your product line for our
 BlackBerries (we have
 2).
 It seems that your pricing was way out of line for a
 small provider to
 take
 on.  It seemed that it was more directed at
 enterprise-level tech
 support
 personnel managing a large network with Exchange
 servers  file servers
 
 such.  Our needs are often that great, but our
 budgets often aren't.
 
 Do you have a pricing solution for us?
 
 Mark Nash
 UnwiredOnline
 350 Holly Street
 Junction City, OR 97448
 http://www.uwol.net
 541-998-
 541-998-5599 fax
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Paul Dumais [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 9:03 AM
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] Managing your network on the
 go-go-go!
 
 
 David I just noticed your message asking for an SSH
 client for
 BlackBerry.  Our product Idokorro Mobile SSH
 supports sending keys with
 CTRL, for example you can press CTRL+C and any other
 combination.  As
 well with the BlackBerry devices QWERTY keyboard it
 makes SSH a snap.
 
 You also mentioned VNC, we also have a product that
 does that on a
 BlackBerry, it's called Mobile Desktop.
 
 If you have any other questions please contact me!
 
 Paul Dumais
 Idokorro Mobile
 http://www.idokorro.com
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On
  Behalf Of David E. Smith
  Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 12:07 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: [WISPA] Managing your network on the
 go-go-go!
 
 
  I'm looking for a way to keep an eye on my
 network, and to fix some
  basic stuff, while hiking, or on vacation, or
 what-have-you. Ideally,
  something I could take to a baseball game with me,
 even.
 
  A laptop computer is far too big for what I've got
 in mind, as it's
  likely to double as a pass-around pager for
 whoever's on call this
  week. Thus, I'm probably limited to a Blackberry
 or maybe a Windows
  Mobile device like the Motorola Q, running on a
 cell phone network.
 
  Most of our towers are running Valemount's StarOS
 software, so we need
 
  something that has an SSH client, and that SSH
 client needs to support
 
  key chording (Control-whatever, basically). Most
 devices like this, a
  Web browser is a given, which should handle the
 rest of our needs
  (looking in on the network monitoring system, and
 a couple Ligowave
  towers). The ability to receive (and, maybe, send)
 emails is
 important,
  but that's pretty much guaranteed these days too.
 (Worst case, I whip
 up
  some email-to-SMS voodoo.)
 
  VNC support would be swell but probably not
 strictly needed. (Besides,
 
  it'd take forever to scroll around a 1208x1024
 desktop on one of
 those...)
 
  I can't be the first one here who's looked at
 getting a Blackberry (or
 
  something similar) to handle basic 

RE: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing your networkonthego-go-go!

2007-08-10 Thread David Peterson
This looks interesting...
http://3sp.com/showSslExplorerCommunity.do

Open source web based 


WirelessGuys
David Peterson
Senior Wireless Engineer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
207 W. Los Angeles Avenue, Suite 300
Moorpark, CA 93021-1862
tel: 800-945-3294 ext 102
mobile: 979.224.4192
AIM: ultramesh inc
Skype ID:nexuswirelessusa


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Felix A. Lopez
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 2:26 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing your networkonthego-go-go!

Paul - I recall a wireless operator wanted his field
technician to be able to VPN into their server (using
his handheld PDA) and download trouble tickets for
field repair jobs on CPE, check network status, etc. 
They wanted to do this over Verizon but also WiFi. And
they wanted session persistence so the field
technician did not have to relog-in (re-authenticate)
every-time he dropped the signal...or They wanted to
keep the trouble ticket 'hot' and I think you can do
this with the volatile memory on the PDA which then
refreshes when you gain the signal.

Can you talk about this, your experiences, and your
product?

Thanks
Felix Lopez
San Francisco, CA
Utilities and Wireless Practitioner 





--- Paul Dumais [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Our VNC product is called Mobile Desktop (also
 supports RDP and SSH
 tunneling) and it is $45.
 
 Paul Dumais
 Idokorro Mobile Inc.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Nash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 1:50 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA]
 Managing your network
 onthego-go-go!
 
 That's better... What about the mobile VNC?
 
 Mark Nash
 UnwiredOnline
 350 Holly Street
 Junction City, OR 97448
 http://www.uwol.net
 541-998-
 541-998-5599 fax
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Paul Dumais [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 10:49 AM
 Subject: RE: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA]
 Managing your network on 
 thego-go-go!
 
 
 Mark, it sounds like you are referring to our Mobile
 Admin product which
 is directed to enterprises, pricing for Mobile Admin
 starts at
 $245/server.
 
 The Mobile SSH product that I suggested to David is
 much more affordable
 and targeted to individuals at $95, most of our
 customers agree that the
 ROI on the SSH product even for an individual or
 small company is very
 easy to justify.
 
 Paul Dumais
 Idokorro Mobile Inc.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Nash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 1:31 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing
 your network on the
 go-go-go!
 
 Paul, I have considered your product line for our
 BlackBerries (we have
 2).
 It seems that your pricing was way out of line for a
 small provider to
 take
 on.  It seemed that it was more directed at
 enterprise-level tech
 support
 personnel managing a large network with Exchange
 servers  file servers
 
 such.  Our needs are often that great, but our
 budgets often aren't.
 
 Do you have a pricing solution for us?
 
 Mark Nash
 UnwiredOnline
 350 Holly Street
 Junction City, OR 97448
 http://www.uwol.net
 541-998-
 541-998-5599 fax
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Paul Dumais [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 9:03 AM
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] Managing your network on the
 go-go-go!
 
 
 David I just noticed your message asking for an SSH
 client for
 BlackBerry.  Our product Idokorro Mobile SSH
 supports sending keys with
 CTRL, for example you can press CTRL+C and any other
 combination.  As
 well with the BlackBerry devices QWERTY keyboard it
 makes SSH a snap.
 
 You also mentioned VNC, we also have a product that
 does that on a
 BlackBerry, it's called Mobile Desktop.
 
 If you have any other questions please contact me!
 
 Paul Dumais
 Idokorro Mobile
 http://www.idokorro.com
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On
  Behalf Of David E. Smith
  Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 12:07 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: [WISPA] Managing your network on the
 go-go-go!
 
 
  I'm looking for a way to keep an eye on my
 network, and to fix some
  basic stuff, while hiking, or on vacation, or
 what-have-you. Ideally,
  something I could take to a baseball game with me,
 even.
 
  A laptop computer is far too big for what I've got
 in mind, as it's
  likely to double as a pass-around pager for
 whoever's on call this
  week. Thus, I'm probably limited to a Blackberry
 or maybe a Windows
  Mobile device like the Motorola Q, running on a
 cell phone network.
 
  Most of our towers are running Valemount's StarOS
 software, so we need
 
  something that has an SSH client, and that SSH
 client needs to support
 
  key chording 

RE: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing your network onthego-go-go!

2007-08-10 Thread Paul Dumais
Our VNC product is called Mobile Desktop (also supports RDP and SSH
tunneling) and it is $45.

Paul Dumais
Idokorro Mobile Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Mark Nash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 1:50 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing your network
onthego-go-go!

That's better... What about the mobile VNC?

Mark Nash
UnwiredOnline
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Dumais [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 10:49 AM
Subject: RE: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on 
thego-go-go!


Mark, it sounds like you are referring to our Mobile Admin product which
is directed to enterprises, pricing for Mobile Admin starts at
$245/server.

The Mobile SSH product that I suggested to David is much more affordable
and targeted to individuals at $95, most of our customers agree that the
ROI on the SSH product even for an individual or small company is very
easy to justify.

Paul Dumais
Idokorro Mobile Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Mark Nash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 1:31 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing your network on the
go-go-go!

Paul, I have considered your product line for our BlackBerries (we have
2).
It seems that your pricing was way out of line for a small provider to
take
on.  It seemed that it was more directed at enterprise-level tech
support
personnel managing a large network with Exchange servers  file servers

such.  Our needs are often that great, but our budgets often aren't.

Do you have a pricing solution for us?

Mark Nash
UnwiredOnline
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Dumais [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 9:03 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!


David I just noticed your message asking for an SSH client for
BlackBerry.  Our product Idokorro Mobile SSH supports sending keys with
CTRL, for example you can press CTRL+C and any other combination.  As
well with the BlackBerry devices QWERTY keyboard it makes SSH a snap.

You also mentioned VNC, we also have a product that does that on a
BlackBerry, it's called Mobile Desktop.

If you have any other questions please contact me!

Paul Dumais
Idokorro Mobile
http://www.idokorro.com

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
 Behalf Of David E. Smith
 Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 12:07 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Managing your network on the go-go-go!


 I'm looking for a way to keep an eye on my network, and to fix some
 basic stuff, while hiking, or on vacation, or what-have-you. Ideally,
 something I could take to a baseball game with me, even.

 A laptop computer is far too big for what I've got in mind, as it's
 likely to double as a pass-around pager for whoever's on call this
 week. Thus, I'm probably limited to a Blackberry or maybe a Windows
 Mobile device like the Motorola Q, running on a cell phone network.

 Most of our towers are running Valemount's StarOS software, so we need

 something that has an SSH client, and that SSH client needs to support

 key chording (Control-whatever, basically). Most devices like this, a
 Web browser is a given, which should handle the rest of our needs
 (looking in on the network monitoring system, and a couple Ligowave
 towers). The ability to receive (and, maybe, send) emails is
important,
 but that's pretty much guaranteed these days too. (Worst case, I whip
up
 some email-to-SMS voodoo.)

 VNC support would be swell but probably not strictly needed. (Besides,

 it'd take forever to scroll around a 1208x1024 desktop on one of
those...)

 I can't be the first one here who's looked at getting a Blackberry (or

 something similar) to handle basic network stuff remotely. What works?

 What doesn't? Will I even be sorta-happy with, say, a Blackberry 8700?

 David Smith
 MVN.net



 
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[WISPA] Help, tranzeo password

2007-08-10 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
I need the utility to get the Tranzeo password.  I am at a subscribers 
house ans can't get into the radio.  Is this something someone can send 
me, or how is this done.


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RE: [WISPA] Direc TV and Dish

2007-08-10 Thread chris cooper
Can you actually make any money when you take into account all the costs
of doing the install vs. what they pay for the install?  It seems like
they pay a pretty slim fee.  A couple service calls can eat up your
profit pretty quickly. I could see it making sense if your labor is not
fully employed, but if you are booked pretty well doing your own
installs, I would think it would make sense to spend as much time as
possible generating recurring revenue.  Just my $.02

c

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 8:52 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Direc TV and Dish

John,

We sell Dish but gave up on DirecTV about 6 months ago.  We have also
installed Wildblue for two years now.  I can put you in contact with a
large
distributor of Dish/DirecTv in the Midwest if you want to pursue it.

Rick


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of John Scrivner
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 7:55 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Direc TV and Dish

We now have 3 full time installer / techs. I am thinking we should
probably
be selling Direc TV and Dish along with our wireless Internet. 
Anyone else doing this? What is good or bad about this? How do I go
about
becoming a dealer for these products? I have sales experience in Cable
TV
industry. I used to sell to Motels and such for 3 states. I know we
could do
this. I also want to do television for the motels around here. Are
others
doing this with any success? I think Rick Harnish told me he was doing
this.
Any information is much appreciated.
All the best,
John Scrivner


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Re: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing your network onthego-go-go!

2007-08-10 Thread George Rogato

Felix A. Lopez wrote:

Paul - I recall a wireless operator wanted his field
technician to be able to VPN into their server (using
his handheld PDA) and download trouble tickets for
field repair jobs on CPE, check network status, etc. 
They wanted to do this over Verizon but also WiFi. And

they wanted session persistence so the field
technician did not have to relog-in (re-authenticate)
every-time he dropped the signal...or They wanted to
keep the trouble ticket 'hot' and I think you can do
this with the volatile memory on the PDA which then
refreshes when you gain the signal.

Can you talk about this, your experiences, and your
product?

Thanks
Felix Lopez
San Francisco, CA
Utilities and Wireless Practitioner 






--- Paul Dumais [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Our VNC product is called Mobile Desktop (also
supports RDP and SSH
tunneling) and it is $45.

Paul Dumais
Idokorro Mobile Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Mark Nash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 1:50 PM

To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA]
Managing your network
onthego-go-go!

That's better... What about the mobile VNC?

Mark Nash
UnwiredOnline
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Dumais [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 10:49 AM
Subject: RE: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA]
Managing your network on 
thego-go-go!



Mark, it sounds like you are referring to our Mobile
Admin product which
is directed to enterprises, pricing for Mobile Admin
starts at
$245/server.

The Mobile SSH product that I suggested to David is
much more affordable
and targeted to individuals at $95, most of our
customers agree that the
ROI on the SSH product even for an individual or
small company is very
easy to justify.

Paul Dumais
Idokorro Mobile Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Mark Nash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 1:31 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: BlackBerry Apps WAS Re: [WISPA] Managing
your network on the
go-go-go!

Paul, I have considered your product line for our
BlackBerries (we have
2).
It seems that your pricing was way out of line for a
small provider to
take
on.  It seemed that it was more directed at
enterprise-level tech
support
personnel managing a large network with Exchange
servers  file servers

such.  Our needs are often that great, but our
budgets often aren't.

Do you have a pricing solution for us?

Mark Nash
UnwiredOnline
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax

- Original Message - 
From: Paul Dumais [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 9:03 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Managing your network on the
go-go-go!


David I just noticed your message asking for an SSH
client for
BlackBerry.  Our product Idokorro Mobile SSH
supports sending keys with
CTRL, for example you can press CTRL+C and any other
combination.  As
well with the BlackBerry devices QWERTY keyboard it
makes SSH a snap.

You also mentioned VNC, we also have a product that
does that on a
BlackBerry, it's called Mobile Desktop.

If you have any other questions please contact me!

Paul Dumais
Idokorro Mobile
http://www.idokorro.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On

Behalf Of David E. Smith
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 12:07 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Managing your network on the

go-go-go!


I'm looking for a way to keep an eye on my

network, and to fix some

basic stuff, while hiking, or on vacation, or

what-have-you. Ideally,

something I could take to a baseball game with me,

even.

A laptop computer is far too big for what I've got

in mind, as it's

likely to double as a pass-around pager for

whoever's on call this

week. Thus, I'm probably limited to a Blackberry

or maybe a Windows

Mobile device like the Motorola Q, running on a

cell phone network.

Most of our towers are running Valemount's StarOS

software, so we need


something that has an SSH client, and that SSH

client needs to support


key chording (Control-whatever, basically). Most

devices like this, a

Web browser is a given, which should handle the

rest of our needs

(looking in on the network monitoring system, and

a couple Ligowave

towers). The ability to receive (and, maybe, send)

emails is
important,

but that's pretty much guaranteed these days too.

(Worst case, I whip
up

some email-to-SMS voodoo.)

VNC support would be swell but probably not

strictly needed. (Besides,


it'd take forever to scroll around a 1208x1024

desktop on one of
those...)

I can't be the first one here who's looked at

getting a Blackberry (or


something similar) to handle basic network stuff

remotely. What works?


What doesn't? Will I even be sorta-happy with,

say, a Blackberry 8700?

David Smith

[WISPA] Nice detailed interview article about MetroBridge (a WISP in both BC and AZ)

2007-08-10 Thread Patrick Leary
On Steve Stroh's site (a site you should all have book marked and check
frequently).
http://www.bwianews.com/2007/08/interview-with-.html


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RE: [WISPA] Unlicensed Devices in the TV Bands (was: FCC SaysWhite-Space Spectrum Device Doesn't Work)

2007-08-10 Thread Patrick Leary
For sure it will be used for BWIA Butch, but the devil is in the
details: what kind of BWIA? Access to the Internet, certainly, but also
likely some advanced services within that. 

- Patrick

Btw, what does IIRC mean?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Butch Evans
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 9:50 PM
To: WISPA General List
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Unlicensed Devices in the TV Bands (was: FCC
SaysWhite-Space Spectrum Device Doesn't Work)

On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, Patrick Leary wrote:

Wow, what an awesome post. Thank you Sascha. I don't know I 
continually need to re-learn the lesson that what is reported in 
often not true and never the whole story.

I'd agree with you, Patrick.  It is certainly a frightening reality 
that only part of the story was told.  You were recently at the 
wrong end of this same kind of thing, IIRC.

As for the band and device possibilities, I am not sure I agree with 
your assessment of it's uses.  Well, not entirely.  I think you are 
correct (I wouldn't presume to argue with your view of the industry) 
in that this band will see uses far beyond simple bwia.  Am I 
understanding your viewpoint correctly when I assume that you are 
stating that bwia is not likely to be used widely in this band?

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RE: [WISPA] Unlicensed Devices in the TV Bands (was: FCC SaysWhite-Space Spectrum Device Doesn't Work)

2007-08-10 Thread Butch Evans

On Fri, 10 Aug 2007, Patrick Leary wrote:

For sure it will be used for BWIA Butch, but the devil is in the 
details: what kind of BWIA? Access to the Internet, certainly, but 
also likely some advanced services within that.


Ahh.. I see what you meant now.


Btw, what does IIRC mean?


If I Recall Correctly.  :-)

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Re: [WISPA] Unlicensed Devices in the TV Bands (was: FCC SaysWhite-Space Spectrum Device Doesn't Work)

2007-08-10 Thread RickG
http://www.netlingo.com/lookup.cfm?term=IIRC
-RickG

On 8/10/07, Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 For sure it will be used for BWIA Butch, but the devil is in the
 details: what kind of BWIA? Access to the Internet, certainly, but also
 likely some advanced services within that.

 - Patrick

 Btw, what does IIRC mean?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Butch Evans
 Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 9:50 PM
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 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] Unlicensed Devices in the TV Bands (was: FCC
 SaysWhite-Space Spectrum Device Doesn't Work)

 On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, Patrick Leary wrote:

 Wow, what an awesome post. Thank you Sascha. I don't know I
 continually need to re-learn the lesson that what is reported in
 often not true and never the whole story.

 I'd agree with you, Patrick.  It is certainly a frightening reality
 that only part of the story was told.  You were recently at the
 wrong end of this same kind of thing, IIRC.

 As for the band and device possibilities, I am not sure I agree with
 your assessment of it's uses.  Well, not entirely.  I think you are
 correct (I wouldn't presume to argue with your view of the industry)
 in that this band will see uses far beyond simple bwia.  Am I
 understanding your viewpoint correctly when I assume that you are
 stating that bwia is not likely to be used widely in this band?

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RE: [WISPA] Unlicensed Devices in the TV Bands (was: FCCSaysWhite-Space Spectrum Device Doesn't Work)

2007-08-10 Thread Patrick Leary
Yes, you recalled correctly. :)

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FCCSaysWhite-Space Spectrum Device Doesn't Work)

On Fri, 10 Aug 2007, Patrick Leary wrote:

For sure it will be used for BWIA Butch, but the devil is in the 
details: what kind of BWIA? Access to the Internet, certainly, but 
also likely some advanced services within that.

Ahh.. I see what you meant now.

 Btw, what does IIRC mean?

If I Recall Correctly.  :-)

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