Re: [WISPA] Netflix

2007-10-01 Thread Matt Liotta
Mike Bushard, Jr wrote: I was just curious why cogent is depeering other carriers. Wasn't there something with Level3 awhile ago, now these two and I've hear some rumors of other too. The Cogent/Level3 depeer was a big deal and hurt a lot of companies. The problem with Cogent is they use

Re: [WISPA] Netflix

2007-10-01 Thread Mike Hammett
The Level3 depeer was caused by Level3, not Cogent. It has the same effect, but a different cause. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent:

Re: [WISPA] Netflix

2007-10-01 Thread Matt Liotta
Mike Hammett wrote: The Level3 depeer was caused by Level3, not Cogent. It has the same effect, but a different cause. Whoever caused it; Cogent is the one that made it painful for the entire internet. They could have rerouted traffic instead of blackholing all of Level3. The fact that they

[WISPA] Bandwidth, Best place.

2007-10-01 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
I figured I would start a new thread for this. My question is with this type of thing happening, what would be the best way to obtain bandwidth? Get multiple tier 1's, or a mix of tier 1's and tier 2's, or multiple tier 2's? Who would be the best ones to go with? How many carriers do you really

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth, Best place.

2007-10-01 Thread Clint Ricker
How many megs and where are you currently picking it up / getting it delivered? -Clint Ricker Kentnis Technologies On 10/1/07, Mike Bushard, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I figured I would start a new thread for this. My question is with this type of thing happening, what would be the best way

RE: [WISPA] Bandwidth, Best place.

2007-10-01 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
Flex OC-3 Direct to the CO. Mike Bushard, Jr Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC 320-256-WISP (9477) 320-256-9478 Fax -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint Ricker Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:41 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re:

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth, Best place.

2007-10-01 Thread Clint Ricker
Where's the CO located? On 10/1/07, Mike Bushard, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Flex OC-3 Direct to the CO. Mike Bushard, Jr Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC 320-256-WISP (9477) 320-256-9478 Fax -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint

Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth, Best place.

2007-10-01 Thread Matt Liotta
Mike Bushard, Jr wrote: My question is with this type of thing happening, what would be the best way to obtain bandwidth? Get multiple tier 1's, or a mix of tier 1's and tier 2's, or multiple tier 2's? It all really depends on which carriers you are referring to. However, based on what we are

RE: [WISPA] Bandwidth, Best place.

2007-10-01 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
We are looking at these locations for the second carrier: 720 Hawthorn St. Alexandria, MN 56308 Or 26 6th Ave N St. Cloud, MN 56303 Currently we bring it to the ILEC CO in Melrose, MN 56352. Mike Bushard, Jr Wisper Wireless Solutions, LLC 320-256-WISP (9477) 320-256-9478 Fax -Original

Fw: [WISPA] Flexible antenna certification

2007-10-01 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Here's an interesting new twist on the issue. What do you think of this conversation Patrick? Check out the names CC'd to it. If this isn't the group to make such a call I sure don't know how to get to a better one. laters, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)

Re: [WISPA] Flexible antenna certification

2007-10-01 Thread Tom DeReggi
Marlon, Sounds like good news, and that it pays to read the actual code, apposed to just on the fly FCC personel feedback. . Section 15.204(c)(1) states that the antenna type refers to antennas that have similar in-band and out-of-band radiation patterns. In other words, the antenna should

Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

2007-10-01 Thread Jeffrey Thomas
Patrick, I disagree, as most of the network operators, internationally that I have spoken with have stated that they currently have no interest in 802.16 and are just looking for standards based solutions that utilize 802.16a-2004 chipsets. They just want QOS capable, scalable, FIXED

RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

2007-10-01 Thread Patrick Leary
Jeff, All this shows is that you are not talking to many operators. I mean, let's be serious. We have over 170 commercial WiMAX deployments...that's commercial networks, not trials. We have tons more trials. We have more deployed 802.16d than all the others suppliers on the planet combined. We

RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

2007-10-01 Thread Patrick Leary
To put it another way, with all due respect, debating us on what the market wants from WiMAX is a bit like an independent auto parts retailer with one store trying to school a VP at Toyota about what the auto buyer is looking for in a hybrid vehicle. ...you have to expect the Toyota guy with all

Re: [WISPA] Flexible antenna certification

2007-10-01 Thread Jack Unger
Tom, You asked quite a few questions and I can't address all of them so I'll address the original question so WISPs can go about their business without fear of being busted by the FCC. 1. Mike Hammett said that he thought he read that WISPs could use a substitute antenna with the same or

RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

2007-10-01 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
Mr. Booher, Why in the Heck would someone pay WiMAX BST pricing if someone didn't want WiMAX? I realize that WiMAX QOS is great, but with the proper equipment QOS can be achieved. How many providers have you talked to less than 10, 20, 50? I can see a certain small number looking at it that way,

Re: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

2007-10-01 Thread Dylan Oliver
Does Airspan stuff work these days? I've only heard horror stories. On 10/1/07, Jeffrey Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Patrick, I disagree, as most of the network operators, internationally that I have spoken with have stated that they currently have no interest in 802.16 and are just

RE: [WISPA] Flexible antenna certification

2007-10-01 Thread Patrick Leary
I agree entirely. This matter has been settled it seems. Patrick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 6:37 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] Flexible antenna

RE: [WISPA] Leasing 2.3 or 2.5 GHz Licensed Spectrum

2007-10-01 Thread Patrick Leary
And speaking of misleading Jeff, you should do the basic diligence before reporting what is or is not available in the U.S. from any vendor. All are welcome to check who has what available at least in the U.S. via this search. Jeff, if you are accurate, you'll see all these frequency options for