Re: [WISPA] Wireless System Valuation

2007-10-26 Thread Junk Mail
Metcalfe's Law is N..squared On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 13:49 +, Ron Wallace wrote: To all, What is the best method for determining the value of a Wireless Internet System??? Ron Wallace Hahnron, Inc. 220 S. Jackson Dt. Addison, MI 49220 Phone: (517)547-8410 Mobile: (517)605-4542

RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti PS2 -- StarOS v3

2007-10-26 Thread Eric Rogers
Before I get slammed with reply's; CORRECTION: Both StarOS and Mikrotik have competing hardware to UBNT. Sorry, I know Mikrotik has put a lot of money in the 133c boards and they don't want to open it to other hardware that competes. I don't know about Lonnie, and mean no dis-respect. I don't

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti PS2 -- StarOS v3

2007-10-26 Thread Mark Nash
That's really too bad because this unit WOULD BE very valuable to me if it could run StarOS v3. It's small, powerful, dual-pol, has LEDs to speed up the install/site survey (I know that LEDs aren't everything in a link), reasonably priced, FCC-Certified, etc. HOWEVER, StarOS v3 is my

Re: [WISPA] OT Comcast email issues

2007-10-26 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
The whitelisted me, that lasted about 48 hours. Got whitelisted again and things, so far, seem to be ok. The part that really pisses me off is that they can't tell me what is getting us black listed! Other than spam. I have NO records of anyone other than one customer with a virus sending

RE: [WISPA] Ubiquiti PS2 -- StarOS v3

2007-10-26 Thread Eric Rogers
That is funny that both Mikrotik and StarOS are walking from UBNT. If I remember correctly, it was the amount of storage on the board that they had issues with. Mikrotik has a little more motive because they are selling competing hardware. Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317)

Re: [WISPA] 5.3Ghz bandpass filters

2007-10-26 Thread Tom DeReggi
Travis, Another good topic In this specific case... I do not believe it is related to antenna, as it is an antenna that we have previously used and tested to work equally with 5.3Ghz without any degregation. We went through this last spring, when realizing that most of the easilly

RE: [WISPA] Wireless System Valuation

2007-10-26 Thread Brian Webster
I would think that it might also be good to know the total number of potential customers that the wireless network footprint covers. A system that covers a potential of 100,000 customers/households would be worth a lot more than one which might only have a maximum of 5,000 households able to be

Re: [WISPA] Wireless System Valuation

2007-10-26 Thread David E. Smith
Ron Wallace wrote: What is the best method for determining the value of a Wireless Internet System??? According to my college microeconomics professor, it's worth exactly what someone else pays for it. :) Are you looking at just hardware (which is pretty easily quantified), or at a

[WISPA] test 3rd time

2007-10-26 Thread Dennis Burgess
** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and

RE: [WISPA] Wireless System Valuation

2007-10-26 Thread Forbes Mercy
I'm in the final stages of selling my WISP and the valuation I set was one year gross plus cost of infrastructure outside of radio's. This includes land, leases and structures. It's a lot better for WISP's then it is for ISP's who are getting about 6 months gross income, period. It wasn't hard

Re: [WISPA] Politics as Usual

2007-10-26 Thread Jack Unger
Forbes, Thank you for having the awareness and taking the time to write your elected representatives. Your action sets an excellent example. If 10% of the WISP community would just follow your example, I think we would see a positive change for the better in our industry and for the

Re: [WISPA] Wireless System Valuation

2007-10-26 Thread Tom DeReggi
Define system. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Ron Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 9:49 AM

Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti PS2 -- StarOS v3

2007-10-26 Thread Tom DeReggi
Dual POL has been a HOT topic for years. One of the other big disadvantages that never materialized. I actually had found a manufacturer that made a custom EXCELLENT Case that included a Dual POL antenna, perfect for CPE. WAR2s and 4s fit easilly. Cost around $70. I walked away from the

[WISPA] Politics as Usual

2007-10-26 Thread Forbes Mercy
After reading a story this morning on a industry related blog I wrote a letter to my Republican Congressman. I sent the same to my two Democrat Senators but just took out the reference to being a Republican. :) Anyway I'm putting it here just so you can remember that only we can keep the

[WISPA] OT: The National Cable TV Coop... anyone here a member?

2007-10-26 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Hit me offlist, I have questions. Thanks! ryan ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** **

Re: [WISPA] 5.3Ghz bandpass filters

2007-10-26 Thread Jack Unger
Tom, It does sound like your problem is due to receiver overload. Try contacting DCI Digital Communications Inc. http://www.dci.ca/. Their website doesn't show a 5.3 GHz bandpass filter but they may be able to make some up for you. BTW, antennas generally have the same performance

[WISPA] Trango 900mhz

2007-10-26 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, Still looking for used Trango 900mhz AP's. Please reply off-list. thanks, Travis Microserv ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October

Re: [WISPA] Politics as Usual

2007-10-26 Thread Junk Mail
Well said Forbes! On Fri, 2007-10-26 at 09:29 -0700, Forbes Mercy wrote: After reading a story this morning on a industry related blog I wrote a letter to my Republican Congressman. I sent the same to my two Democrat Senators but just took out the reference to being a Republican. :) Anyway

Re: [WISPA] Wireless System Valuation

2007-10-26 Thread Tom DeReggi
I agree market size is a factor, but it will not apply to all candidates. Time in business also matter. Actually longer in business works agaisnt you, when considering market size.. They ask... If there is so much potential market, after all these years, why don't you have it yet? Therefore

Re: [WISPA] Politics as Usual

2007-10-26 Thread Sam Tetherow
I'll crack open the can of worms What are you suggesting here Forbes? If it's just truth in advertising then I'm behind you 100%. If however you are suggesting that an ISP should not be able to block traffic of a particular type I will have to disagree. Currently I do not shape

[WISPA] Link to FCC site for Earth Stations

2007-10-26 Thread Mike Delp
I have been searching my archives for a couple of days. Someone posted the URL for looking up the Earth Stations and coordinates that are using the 3650 band. Would someone please repost this? Thanks in advance Mike No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free

RE: [WISPA] Link to FCC site for Earth Stations

2007-10-26 Thread CHUCK PROFITO
Try here http://wireless.fcc.gov/auctions/default.htm?job=maps Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Delp Sent:

RE: [WISPA] Link to FCC site for Earth Stations

2007-10-26 Thread Mike Delp
Chuck, Thanks for the link but it is not what I am looking for. There are a number of Earth Stations that use C band Satellite Dishes that are to be avoided with 3650 MHz stuff. I saw a link that showed the locations and their GPS coordinates. Ps It was great talking with you at ISPCON. Mike

[WISPA] CALEA (recovering costs)

2007-10-26 Thread Dylan Bouterse
It was mentioned back during the CALEA hype that some had considered or did add a CALEA fee on their Internet Service bills. I'm curious if this was done and if it was successful (without upsetting customers or creating too many billing inquiries). Feel free to reply off list if you don't want to

Re: [WISPA] Politics as Usual

2007-10-26 Thread Jeromie Reeves
My take is that this is the that fateful first step on a very slippery slope. Today they rate shape the traffic, next week they out right block it. I agree that any provider needs to use what ever tools they have to keep users in line. The problem that Forbes is pointing out (I think) is that they

RE: [WISPA] test 3rd time

2007-10-26 Thread Rick Harnish
Third time's a charm I guess! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 11:24 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] test 3rd time