[WISPA] New WISPA Vendor Member - Tony Morella of Demarc Technology Group, LLC

2007-11-11 Thread John Scrivner

I love seeing the people who I first started talking to in my earliest
days of forming my WISP. One who was always there helping out on the
lists was Tony Morella. It is a pleasure to see him prospering as a
vendor to WISPs and in now joining WISPA to show his support of our
industry. Welcome Tony. We are glad you are part of our team for a
better industry. Here is a little about Demarc Technology Group in
Tony's own words:

Demarc Technology Group Inc has emerged as an industry leader in
designing, manufacturing and distributing to thousands of high-speed
wireless broadband communication systems all over the world since 2000.

The core technology behind Demarc’s products is it revolutionary
low-cost but extremely robust Wi-Fi and Wi-Max like technologies.
Offering the most technically advanced wireless broadband communication
equipment available in the 900 MHz, 2.4 GHz, 4.9 GHz and 5 GHz Wireless
spectrums and employ direct sequence spread spectrum (DSSS) and
Orthogonal frequency-division multiplexing (OFDM) technology for robust
connectivity and long range performance.

Network Managers can easily connect office buildings, campuses and
remote sites etc. The Wireless network is operational in a fraction of
the time it takes to cable and install traditional Wired networks and
can be remotely monitored and configured from anywhere in the world.
Simplicity of use, ease of implementation and cost-effectiveness are the
corner stones of our solutions. Installation is quick and easy

Reliawave™ product suite offers a high-performance wireless broadband
solution specifically tailored to meet the requests of Internet Service
Providers (ISPs) and broadband telecommunications providers. Service
Providers will utilize these solutions as alternatives to providing
leased Telco lines for customer access to Internet service. Reliawave™
offers a complete wireless turnkey connectivity solution.

Reliawave™ products go where hardwire products cannot and enable your
company to expand its customer base without the Telco’s additional
monthly recurring fees and without the dependence on the Telco
infrastructure. Reliawave™'s products can be installed immediately -
without waiting the standard 45 days or more for a Telco installation.
As your company's network grows, Reliawave™ connections may be expanded
incrementally to create a totally wireless network!

Additional information about Demarc Technology Group Inc as well as an
overview of our complete line of indoor and outdoor integrated Wireless
CPEs, Access Points, Base Stations, antennas, bandwidth shapers, hotspot
solution, cables and connectors can be found at the company's website
http://www.demarctech.com/ or by contacting the company at
1-207-667-7583 or by e-mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED]





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Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL TRUTH

2007-11-11 Thread Drew Lentz
I deployed VL @ 5.8 across about a 6,000 sq. mi. coverage area in 
Southern Texas. Roughly 21 basestations of it .. on the us / mexico 
border. It is a VERY noisy environment and this stuff worked 
magnificently. On the 3mb SUs we were seeing close to 3mb, on the 54mb 
SUs we were seeing up to 20mb. Absolutely great gear. We also had 5.2 
and some 4.9 deployments that were very successful. The 4.9 gear 
performed perfectly as anticipated.


I am no longer with that company, but they are still running strong with 
their ALV deployment.


-drew


Smith, Rick wrote:

I need to hear from a WISP that's BOUGHT and USES Alvarion VL equipment.

I need to hear real world pricing info, quantities, etc.

If anyone can hit me off list, I'd like to throw a few emails back and
forth.

I'm wondering if my little town coverage project, which was going to be
all cheap wifi equipment, would be better served by using VL as the
backbone / heavy customer equipment.

Got some other wonders...



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Re: [WISPA] Skypilot

2007-11-11 Thread Drew Lentz
Before jumping into the mesh space, I would look at all the technology 
that is out there, from 1st generation  up to the current 4/5 
generation. There's a ton of great equipment out there. Strix, 
Arrowspan, Go Networks, etc.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I haven't heard much about Skypilot out there on WISPA.  I'm considering an
equipment upgrade soon, and I did get ONE real world WISP last year who was
using it with very good success who loves it.  The idea of adding bandwidth
with another gateway, etc.  But how much bandwidth in a given area can that
system really work with before interference becomes an issue - or can each
new gateway actually use a different frequency?

Also in terms of VOIP - if I use IAX2 / Asterisk to run VOIP, how much
capacity can I expect per gateway, simultaneously.

Thanks





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Re: [WISPA] Skypilot

2007-11-11 Thread dougr
I have several reasons that I liked Skypilot in particular.  For one thing,
the sectorized omni approach meant I could use 1 unit to cover 360 degrees.
 Secondly, the smart antenna approach giving it 44db EIRP on the AP side. 
Third, the automatic redundancy, and fourth, the fact that 1 piece of
equipment on the tower replaces:  redundant backhauls, ethernet switches,
lots of sector panels, etc.  It can be installed by 1 climber in probably
less than 30 minutes.  Nothing else I've found has close to these features.
 

BelAir mentions it can be used for cellular backhaul - is it really capable
of what it claims to be able to do?  Is there a non-mesh endpoint unit that
can be used, or am I forced to use a Belair unit on clients that want voice
T1s?  I just can't see Wi-Fi being able to handle 10 or 20 simultaneous
calls - and the backhaul radios aren't unlicensed Wimax - just 802.11a.

So maybe I need to go to Alvarion VL - but I wonder if they live up to
their VOIP call claims on their tech sheets - Canopy Advantage couldn't in
my testing, at 2.5 miles with 1 CPE on it it fell on its face...

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:08:59 -0600, Drew Lentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Before jumping into the mesh space, I would look at all the technology
 that is out there, from 1st generation  up to the current 4/5
 generation. There's a ton of great equipment out there. Strix,
 Arrowspan, Go Networks, etc.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I haven't heard much about Skypilot out there on WISPA.  I'm considering
 an
 equipment upgrade soon, and I did get ONE real world WISP last year who
 was
 using it with very good success who loves it.  The idea of adding
 bandwidth
 with another gateway, etc.  But how much bandwidth in a given area can
 that
 system really work with before interference becomes an issue - or can
 each
 new gateway actually use a different frequency?

 Also in terms of VOIP - if I use IAX2 / Asterisk to run VOIP, how much
 capacity can I expect per gateway, simultaneously.

 Thanks







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Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL TRUTH

2007-11-11 Thread dougr
Are you doing any significant VOIP on it (like 10+ VOIP calls on a single
client unit, like T1 replacement)?

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:07:11 -0600, Drew Lentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I deployed VL @ 5.8 across about a 6,000 sq. mi. coverage area in
 Southern Texas. Roughly 21 basestations of it .. on the us / mexico
 border. It is a VERY noisy environment and this stuff worked
 magnificently. On the 3mb SUs we were seeing close to 3mb, on the 54mb
 SUs we were seeing up to 20mb. Absolutely great gear. We also had 5.2
 and some 4.9 deployments that were very successful. The 4.9 gear
 performed perfectly as anticipated.
 
 I am no longer with that company, but they are still running strong with
 their ALV deployment.
 
 -drew
 
 
 Smith, Rick wrote:
 I need to hear from a WISP that's BOUGHT and USES Alvarion VL equipment.

 I need to hear real world pricing info, quantities, etc.

 If anyone can hit me off list, I'd like to throw a few emails back and
 forth.

 I'm wondering if my little town coverage project, which was going to be
 all cheap wifi equipment, would be better served by using VL as the
 backbone / heavy customer equipment.

 Got some other wonders...





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Re: [WISPA] Alvarion VL TRUTH

2007-11-11 Thread Drew Lentz
We were using it to connect entire RV sites together with multiple VoIP 
users on it at once. With its over the air packet prioritization, we 
noticed a definite increase in call quality as well as call volume 
(number of calls, not how loud they are;))


-d
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Are you doing any significant VOIP on it (like 10+ VOIP calls on a single
client unit, like T1 replacement)?

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:07:11 -0600, Drew Lentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

I deployed VL @ 5.8 across about a 6,000 sq. mi. coverage area in
Southern Texas. Roughly 21 basestations of it .. on the us / mexico
border. It is a VERY noisy environment and this stuff worked
magnificently. On the 3mb SUs we were seeing close to 3mb, on the 54mb
SUs we were seeing up to 20mb. Absolutely great gear. We also had 5.2
and some 4.9 deployments that were very successful. The 4.9 gear
performed perfectly as anticipated.

I am no longer with that company, but they are still running strong with
their ALV deployment.

-drew


Smith, Rick wrote:


I need to hear from a WISP that's BOUGHT and USES Alvarion VL equipment.

I need to hear real world pricing info, quantities, etc.

If anyone can hit me off list, I'd like to throw a few emails back and
forth.

I'm wondering if my little town coverage project, which was going to be
all cheap wifi equipment, would be better served by using VL as the
backbone / heavy customer equipment.

Got some other wonders...



  


  

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Re: [WISPA] Skypilot

2007-11-11 Thread Drew Lentz
SkyPilot does in fact do a great job at antenna switching ... and yes 
their radios can support up to 44db EIRP, but you are still dealing with 
a 30mw client most of the time.  As far as supporting voice / qos  
though, it is still all Wifi. BeAir, from what I understand, now offers 
a SLA guarnatee 
(http://www.belairnetworks.com/about_belair/press_releases_view.cfm?p_id=120) 
on their gear, which should give you some peace of mind.


As far as SkyPilot being the only one who offers those features like 
redundant backhaul, that's the benefit of mesh, not of the equipment 
manufacturer.


If you are looking for a ton of coverage with less equipment, take a 
look at what Go Networks and Vivato have done with their beamforming 
technologies. Better spectral efficeincy to the client using the wifi 
standard is a great thing when it works. I have seen the Go gear work, 
and will be testing some Vivato later on this month! :)


-drew

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have several reasons that I liked Skypilot in particular.  For one thing,
the sectorized omni approach meant I could use 1 unit to cover 360 degrees.
 Secondly, the smart antenna approach giving it 44db EIRP on the AP side. 
Third, the automatic redundancy, and fourth, the fact that 1 piece of

equipment on the tower replaces:  redundant backhauls, ethernet switches,
lots of sector panels, etc.  It can be installed by 1 climber in probably
less than 30 minutes.  Nothing else I've found has close to these features.
 


BelAir mentions it can be used for cellular backhaul - is it really capable
of what it claims to be able to do?  Is there a non-mesh endpoint unit that
can be used, or am I forced to use a Belair unit on clients that want voice
T1s?  I just can't see Wi-Fi being able to handle 10 or 20 simultaneous
calls - and the backhaul radios aren't unlicensed Wimax - just 802.11a.

So maybe I need to go to Alvarion VL - but I wonder if they live up to
their VOIP call claims on their tech sheets - Canopy Advantage couldn't in
my testing, at 2.5 miles with 1 CPE on it it fell on its face...

On Sun, 11 Nov 2007 12:08:59 -0600, Drew Lentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

Before jumping into the mesh space, I would look at all the technology
that is out there, from 1st generation  up to the current 4/5
generation. There's a ton of great equipment out there. Strix,
Arrowspan, Go Networks, etc.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I haven't heard much about Skypilot out there on WISPA.  I'm considering
  

an


equipment upgrade soon, and I did get ONE real world WISP last year who
  

was


using it with very good success who loves it.  The idea of adding
  

bandwidth


with another gateway, etc.  But how much bandwidth in a given area can
  

that


system really work with before interference becomes an issue - or can
  

each


new gateway actually use a different frequency?

Also in terms of VOIP - if I use IAX2 / Asterisk to run VOIP, how much
capacity can I expect per gateway, simultaneously.

Thanks





  


  

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