[WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-09 Thread Bob Moldashel
Sorry for this one guys. Everyone knows I'm an RF guy not a network guy so hence the question...and it is wireless in naturesort of I bought a new laptop for one of my guys. It of course has the dreaded MS Vista on it. Is it possible to partition the hard drive, delete the OS on

RE: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-09 Thread Mike Bushard, Jr
I did basically the same thing a long time ago with Partition Magic and OSXL boot loader. I resized the Windows partition, created a small one for OSXL and used the remaining space for linux. Mike Bushard, Jr Wireless Network Engineer 320-256-WISP (9477) 320-256-9478 Fax -Original

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-09 Thread George Rogato
Vista doesn't need partition magic, it has it's own partition utility built in. So if you want to install linux, open up the vista partition utility, squeeze the partition size down for vista and then install linux. Linux will find the space. Also, no reason why you can't just wipe vista and

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-09 Thread Bob Moldashel
That's what I thought. I just need to find a Dummies verson so I can do it! :-) -B- On Dec 9, 2007, at 11:35 AM, Mike Bushard, Jr wrote: I did basically the same thing a long time ago with Partition Magic and OSXL boot loader. I resized the Windows partition, created a small one for

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-09 Thread Bob Moldashel
Thanks George. I just want to leave Vista on there incase something happens and I need to take the machine back to the geniuses at Best Buy. they love to turn stuff on and blame software for issues. Its a just in case issue. Thanks! -B- On Dec 9, 2007, at 11:41 AM, George Rogato

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-09 Thread Travis Johnson
The only other issue you will have is finding all the XP drivers for the laptop. HP/Compaq no longer publish the XP drivers for laptops that come with Vista on them. You can still find them, it just takes a little searching. Travis Microserv Bob Moldashel wrote: Thanks George. I just want

RE: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-09 Thread Ty Carter Lightwave Communications
Bob: Take a look at http://apcmag.com/5023/dual_booting_xp_with_vista And goto the section labeled: Get Started - Using DISKPART.. Don't pay any attention to the steps prior to the Get Started - Using DISKPART... It is very straight forward and simple... It works.. I have done this for

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-09 Thread WWS2
In a message dated 12/9/2007 11:25:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: dreaded MS Vista Why is everyone so down on Vista? I have been using it for a long time, starting with the Beta Version-now using the Ultimate Version, without problems [laptops and PC's]. I

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-09 Thread Mike Hammett
Agreed. This happens with every OS release... It's OH SO HORRIBLE... but then in a year or so, everyone forgets their fabricated fears. I've been using Vista for about 4 months and have 0 issues with Vista itself. Sure, I've had problems with vendors who are slow to update

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-09 Thread lakeland
K. Tnx Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 10:17:12 To:WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT..Question The only other issue you will have is finding all the XP drivers for

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-09 Thread Ryan Langseth
Thats because in about a year, SP1 will be released and clear up the major problems.I consider the first version of any new MS OS to be a release candidate at best. Frankly if they do not clean up the Usability of Vista, it will be the OS the drives me completely to OS X or Linux.

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-09 Thread lakeland
It is not so much the new OS but the fact that many aftermarket programs do not work with it. And forget about printer drivers. I have a plotter that is relatively new and there is no chance for a driver to work with Vista. If you use it for present day sofware you are fine. Bob Sent from my

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-09 Thread lakeland
My appologies to the list. The one thing i was hoping to avoid was an OS thread. We all know how that discussion loads up the list hard drive. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry WISPA Wants You! Join

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-09 Thread lakeland
Will do. Tnx Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Ty Carter Lightwave Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 12:45:32 To:WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT..Question Bob: Take a look at

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-09 Thread Mike Hammett
No, no, Dell is to blame. If a component manufacturer makes something and someone else puts it on their board\in their machine, they are the responsible ones. ATI makes 64 bit Vista drivers, Dell does not have them available. ATI won't install because it's a Dell machine. There are many

RE: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-09 Thread Doug
Try driveragent.com for odd drivers. I have a Sony Vaio from Japan and couldn't find an English ethernet driver, but I found one on there. At our computer store we use it daily for any odd driver. It's not free but the subscription is invaluable to us as computer people. It's an ActiveX

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-09 Thread Butch Evans
On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is everyone so down on Vista? I have been using it for a long time, starting with the Beta Version-now using the Ultimate Version, without problems [laptops and PC's]. I think it is more a learning curve with so many changes rom the earlier

RE: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-09 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Hi Butch, I'm getting close to a decision on a new computer for my family. What Linux desk-top would be best at this point? Jeff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 3:16 PM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-09 Thread WWS2
In a message dated 12/9/2007 6:48:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Butch, I'm getting close to a decision on a new computer for my family. What Linux desk-top would be best at this point? Jeff Depending upon how 'top' you need it to be, either buy a HP on

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-09 Thread WWS2
In a message dated 12/9/2007 3:16:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 9 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is everyone so down on Vista? I have been using it for a long time, starting with the Beta Version-now using the Ultimate Version, without

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-09 Thread Travis Johnson
Jeff, A "family" computer should still be Windows. Too many programs your family will want to run will require Windows. It's not worth the headaches of a Linux box for "family" use. Travis Microserv Jeff Broadwick wrote: Hi Butch, I'm getting close to a decision on a new computer for my

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-09 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, Every single test out there shows Vista is SLOWER on an identical machine running XP. Why would I upgrade to an OS that is slower? Travis Microserv Mike Hammett wrote: Agreed. This happens with every OS release... It's OH SO HORRIBLE... but then in a year or so, everyone forgets

RE: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-09 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
We've standardized on XP/PRO SP2 for the office. We tried Vista and, although some fanatics show it can be a bit but definitely slower, that's not meaningful. The computers, themselves, suffer intractable problems with Vista with less than 2G memory, but with that memory or more, it's OK. (Why

[WISPA] Orinoco AP with packet loss (AP-1000)

2007-12-09 Thread Luke Pack
I have a problem that has been killing me lately. I have an Orinoco AP with an Omni antenna. I have about 20 clients or so that are hooked up to it. Lately ONLY at night this gets huge packet loss on the AP. Local noise levels are not great anymore- but they are the same during the day (when

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-09 Thread Dylan Oliver
You are either a troll or willfully ignorant. There are tens of thousands of programs available for linux: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo wajig list-names | sed -e '/lib/d' | wc Password: 17883 17883 239642 There are 17883 packages (which do not match the phrase 'lib', to weed out about 7000

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-09 Thread Steve
Ubuntu Linux is great for a family computer. The install is easier than window, you won't have the headaches of endless virus and spyware removal issues. it is just as easy to learn as M$ windoze and you will find that in the end you are ahead of the game. Anyone who fears linux for the novice

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-09 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, My two daughters both have laptops. They both play Sims2 with all the expansion packs. Will that run on Ubuntu? What about Roller Coaster Tycoon? What about iTunes for their iPods? Trust me, I would _love_ to be done with Microsoft and Windows... but there is no way to do it at this

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-09 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Mac OS. ryan On Dec 9, 2007, at 8:04 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, My two daughters both have laptops. They both play Sims2 with all the expansion packs. Will that run on Ubuntu? What about Roller Coaster Tycoon? What about iTunes for their iPods? Trust me, I would _love_ to be done

Re: [WISPA] Orinoco AP with packet loss (AP-1000)

2007-12-09 Thread Bob Moldashel
Luke, This sounds like a water in the connector issue. With moisture in a connector you will see high retransmits when the moisture crystalizes when it changes to ice at night. Time to rip everything apart and look for ANY moisture in the connectors. It also depends on what antenna you

[WISPA] Wireless Backhaul options/test/results

2007-12-09 Thread cam
Hello all, I am in the need of upgrading some backhauls. We are currently using Alvarion AUVL units with a SU-54-BD. According to Alvarion, this link is only capable of 16mbit each way (Alvarion, please call it a 32mbit radio.) We have looked into results on users who use Alvarion B100, Trango

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Backhaul options/test/results

2007-12-09 Thread Felix A. Lopez
Dragonwave and/or Orthogon are some others to consider. Some of my old customers use them here in the Bay Area, California. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I am in the need of upgrading some backhauls. We are currently using Alvarion AUVL units with a SU-54-BD. According to

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-09 Thread Travis Johnson
The _only_ reason Vista will still be around is because Microsoft is forcing people to buy it with new computers. If they had an installer when the person first turned the computer on that would allow a selection of XP or Vista, I bet 95% of people would pick XP. Travis Microserv Jonathan

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-09 Thread Steve
haven't tried those games but some might work with wine http://appdb.winehq.org/appbrowse.php?catId=0 Steve -- Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, My two daughters both have laptops. They both play Sims2 with all the expansion packs. Will that run on Ubuntu? What about Roller Coaster Tycoon? What

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-09 Thread Travis Johnson
Now we aren't comparing Apples to Oranges (literally). A new HP laptop that is decent is $600 at Best Buy. The same performance out of a Mac laptop is $1,400. Travis Microserv D. Ryan Spott wrote: Mac OS. ryan On Dec 9, 2007, at 8:04 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, My two daughters both

Re: [WISPA] OT......Question

2007-12-09 Thread D. Ryan Spott
$1000.00 You need to get out more! :) Easy. ryan On Dec 9, 2007, at 8:32 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: Now we aren't comparing Apples to Oranges (literally). A new HP laptop that is decent is $600 at Best Buy. The same performance out of a Mac laptop is $1,400. Travis Microserv D. Ryan

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Backhaul options/test/results

2007-12-09 Thread Ryan Langseth
If you want to stay in the unlicensed spectrum, you could check out the 24GHz range, it should be able to do 3 miles, not sure on the dish size though. Dragonwave has a product in that range. Ryan On Dec 9, 2007, at 10:25 PM, Felix A. Lopez wrote: Dragonwave and/or Orthogon are some

RE: [WISPA] Wireless Backhaul options/test/results

2007-12-09 Thread ralph
Funny you should ask. I tested a B-100 going 500 feet with Qcheck a couple of days ago and got only 38 Mb. I'm not sure if Qcheck reads out correctly or if I have to double it- I was in a hurry. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL

RE: [WISPA] Wireless Backhaul options/test/results

2007-12-09 Thread Bill Price
What about Tranzeo? Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Langseth Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 11:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Backhaul options/test/results If you want to stay in the unlicensed

RE: [WISPA] Wireless Backhaul options/test/results

2007-12-09 Thread Brad Belton
Hello Cameron, As good as Alvarion gear is or may be, it is still best effort gear and not committed rate. Many factors will play into what an end user will actually be able to produce across Alvarion gear. If you are looking for a committed rate backhaul you need to look at the Trango GigaLINK