Re: [WISPA] MikroTik FCC

2008-02-07 Thread Jack Unger
Mikrotik's certification of the R52 with outdoor antennas is an important step on the road to being able to build and certify a MT system however it is just the first step. Using the R52 with any of the antennas that it has been certified with will help a company obtain certification of a

Re: [WISPA] Tornado

2008-02-07 Thread Mike Delp
http://www.wirelessestimator.com/breaking_news.cfm Two towers, one was brand new, and not fully utilized. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 7:53 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject:

[WISPA] Tornado

2008-02-07 Thread WWS2
I have a question for someone in the 'T' zones. You see the destructive force of them and how devastating they can be but I have never seen/heard of them wiping out a broadcasting tower or a multi story building. Does this happen? Walter Walter W. Stumpf Jr. Xanadu Group Inc. 179

Re: [WISPA] EZ Times Connectors

2008-02-07 Thread Luke Pack
Though I am trying to eliminate the need for LMR runs these days, we've used the EZ-400 and 600 for quite some time. They are EZ and they work great as mentioned. - Luke - Original Message - From: Blair Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent:

Re: [WISPA] Tornado

2008-02-07 Thread Scottie Arnett
Memphis Tennessee, Tuesday: http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2008/feb/06/tornado-destroyed-two-radio-towers-used-several-st/ Main tower hub for communications knocked down. -- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: WISPA General List

[WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2008-02-07 Thread Jeff Broadwick
REVIEW OUTLOOK Purblind Auction February 7, 2008; Page A18 The Federal Communications Commission is bragging about its latest wireless auction, with total bids of more than $19 billion after two weeks. But dig beneath those numbers and the picture is less rosy. This wireless

Re: [WISPA] Tornado

2008-02-07 Thread Rick Harnish
We witnessed this same thing while helping Mac Dearman and crew after Katrina. FEMA is definitely a more of a disservice to those in need than it is for providing assistance. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Williams Sent: Thursday,

[WISPA] Google's telephony deal

2008-02-07 Thread George Rogato
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080207/tc_nm/google_phone_arm_dc;_ylt=AgSPcGUSrW0dRMwGepTlglgjtBAF WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Tornado

2008-02-07 Thread David E. Smith
Okay, less FEMA politics and more disaster pictures. http://images.bureau42.com/sa/blrv08/SANY0837.JPG (This was from Tuesday evening. We were nowhere near any tornadoes, as far as I know, just 50-60mph winds.) David Smith MVN.net

Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS

2008-02-07 Thread Dennis Burgess - Link Techs Inc
50 both ways with N-Stream dual and Turbo mode... Dennis M. Burgess Mikrotik Certified Consultant Link Technologies, Inc., St. Louis, Missouri --WISP/Network Support Services-- +1 314-686-1302 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike

Re: [WISPA] Tornado

2008-02-07 Thread David E. Smith
Jack Unger wrote: What make, model and height was the tower? It was unguyed, correct? It was a Universal HD8-100 (100' tower, unguyed). We have a dozen or more of these up, and have had for several years, and this is the first time we've had any incident like this. And a bunch of folks in

Re: [WISPA] Tornado

2008-02-07 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
At least is wasn't your main tower!That sucks! Matt Larsen vistabeam.com David E. Smith wrote: Okay, less FEMA politics and more disaster pictures. http://images.bureau42.com/sa/blrv08/SANY0837.JPG (This was from Tuesday evening. We were nowhere near any tornadoes, as far as I know,

Re: [WISPA] Tornado

2008-02-07 Thread Mark Williams
Myself and many others responded to Adkins, Arkansas yesterday... There was a great outpouring of volunteers, equipment, and supplies. Quite literally dump trucks, tractor trailers, and many more pickups w/ trailers hauling in various dozers, back hoes, materials, food / water etc. for clean up

Re: [WISPA] EZ Times Connectors

2008-02-07 Thread Luke Pack
I second that! That tool makes the EZ mean something :) - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] EZ Times Connectors Just make sure you use the factory

Re: [WISPA] EZ Times Connectors

2008-02-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Just make sure you use the factory stripper. That little tool saves a LOT of time! Oh yeah, make sure you use the deburring tool. That's especially important on the EZ connectors. marlon - Original Message - From: Luke Pack [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] Tornado

2008-02-07 Thread Brian Webster
What and how much wind loading was on the tower? Normally even if you are at the rated wind load and things are properly built there is still a safety margin the engineers build in to a structural design. Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS

2008-02-07 Thread Mike Hammett
I believe MT v3 has a new wireless driver that is better. I'm sure Star-OS has their own special mode for greater speed. Were you comparing this vs. MT's 802.11 or N-Streme (or both on 802.11)? -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original

Re: [WISPA] Tornado

2008-02-07 Thread Jack Unger
David, What make, model and height was the tower? It was unguyed, correct? jack David E. Smith wrote: Okay, less FEMA politics and more disaster pictures. http://images.bureau42.com/sa/blrv08/SANY0837.JPG (This was from Tuesday evening. We were nowhere near any tornadoes, as far as I

Re: [WISPA] Tornado

2008-02-07 Thread Jack Unger
Mark, Thanks for your report. I'm sorry that FEMA does not seem to be focused on meeting the real needs that people have. On the other hand, I'm sure that the FEMA lockdown did a good job of keeping Al Quida terrorists from potentially entering the disaster area to cause trouble. I hope that

[WISPA] FW: FCC Form 477 Reporting Reminder (Due March 3, 2008)

2008-02-07 Thread Mac Dearman
From: FCC477 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:03 PM To: FCC 477 Contact Subject: FCC Form 477 Reporting Reminder (Due March 3, 2008) Good afternoon, Since you were the contact person on a previous FCC Form 477 semi-annual filing, you are receiving this

Re: [WISPA] Tornado

2008-02-07 Thread Jack Unger
Who is the the strongest? Is it Man or is it Mother Nature? http://www.esri.com/news/arcnews/spring01articles/spring01gifs/p20p2.jpg

Re: [WISPA] Tornado

2008-02-07 Thread Scottie Arnett
Sorry to reply to my own post, but we service the Macon County Tennessee area that was hardest hit. We have a POP there for dial-up, but have not entered that market with our wireless yet. Lots of destruction. The tornado set down and traveled 25 miles or more without ever lifting. Base ranged

Re: [WISPA] Tornado

2008-02-07 Thread Dennis Burgess - Link Techs Inc
Just a FYI, remember the red cross was down helping people who were protesting that trail . They were giving water, food, shelter, and medical treatment to those who showed up to PROTEST . I understand the right to protest. Great. But why is the Red Cross helping these people. Its like them

Re: [WISPA] Tornado

2008-02-07 Thread Bob Moldashel
Was this tower guyed??? How tall is/was it??? Nice site install though On Feb 7, 2008, at 3:10 PM, David E. Smith wrote: Okay, less FEMA politics and more disaster pictures. http://images.bureau42.com/sa/blrv08/SANY0837.JPG (This was from Tuesday evening. We were nowhere near any

Re: [WISPA] Tornado

2008-02-07 Thread Rafman® at RAF Wireless
Leave the tools, we're out of here... http://www.wirelessestimator.com/t_content.cfm?pagename=Breaking%20News Rafman On Feb 7, 2008 9:53 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a question for someone in the 'T' zones. You see the destructive force of them and how devastating they can be but I

Re: [WISPA] Tornado

2008-02-07 Thread Larry Strittmatter
For some close-ups scroll down the page and click on any of the images, this is what we walked into. http://www.computeam.com/services/disaster_recovery/ We had to recover equipment for several of our IT clients. Larry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] Tornado

2008-02-07 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Without getting political...I'm not sure government is the right vehicle for this sort of job...no matter who is running the show. Jeff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:00 PM To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Tornado

2008-02-07 Thread WWS2
Okay-so towers do come down but news coverage of it is pretty local. How about multi story buildings? We do see leveled homes, but I have never seen a 4-5-6+ story building for example with damage or leveled. Does it happen/has it happened? Walter -- Original Message

Re: [WISPA] Tornado

2008-02-07 Thread Brad Belton
A quick search on the tornado that ripped through Fort Worth came up with this: http://www.fortwortharchitecture.com/tornado.htm I was standing outside watching the sky when this happened. The tornado touched down about 2 miles east of me...really was a mess. Pictures don't do it justice.

[WISPA] Kentucky Decides Against Funneling Tax Money to Telcos

2008-02-07 Thread Jack Unger
Connect Kentucky has suffered a rare legislative setback, deciding not to go ahead with a bill that would have redirected tax receipts from the state treasury to telephone companies as a way of paying for the buildout of broadband http://www.publicknowledge.org/node/1382 -- Jack Unger

Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS

2008-02-07 Thread Mike Hammett
Mikrotik can do 70 megs or more over 40 MHz as well. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Mark Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:02 AM Subject: Re:

[WISPA] pppoe server, Redback capability of other solutions?

2008-02-07 Thread rabbtux rabbtux
All I'm in the process of moving over to another upstream provider. I'm working with them closely to get service to my county PUD system that uses pppoe tunnels for virtually all end user connections. ( I know that I can get a vlan, but the cost is prohibitive at the moment) So, I'm their

Re: [WISPA] pppoe server, Redback capability of other solutions?

2008-02-07 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Redback routers are very very good at what they do (PPPoX subscriber aggregation) I am not aware of something equivalent in the PC / OpenSource world. Not to side step your question, but what kind of Hardware Failure is causing the 'emergency'. We use Redback routers for our DSL subs, and have

Re: [WISPA] pppoe server, Redback capability of other solutions?

2008-02-07 Thread Eric Muehleisen
Redback is untouchable in terms of PPPoE aggregation. Cisco is really the only other Router out there that is of Redback's caliber. We currently terminate close to 15,000 subscribers using a Redback SE 400. Attached is our current CPU usage. -Eric rabbtux rabbtux wrote: All I'm in the

Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS

2008-02-07 Thread Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net
We did a 18 mile shot, dual n-stream with pre-release v3 dual pol antennas, and got 35meg with -70 or so. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:09 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re:

Re: [WISPA] pppoe server, Redback capability of other solutions?

2008-02-07 Thread Clint Ricker
Also, if you need help with Redback, just ask around. There's a lot of people with a lot of experience with those guys. Faisal from SnappyDSL who posted earlier could point you in the right direction and hook you up with plenty of spare hardware and setup information if desired. Clint Ricker

Re: [WISPA] pppoe server, Redback capability of other solutions?

2008-02-07 Thread Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net
We have tested 2600 PPPoE sessions with a PoweRouter 732. This with ONE core on only.. Plus, it includes 7 GigE interfaces. Rackmount etc.. Dennis -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:22

Re: [WISPA] pppoe server, Redback capability of other solutions?

2008-02-07 Thread Scott Lambert
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 04:22:19PM -0800, rabbtux rabbtux wrote: So, I'm their first beta tester in my area and they have this used Redback router. First there were problems that were to be solved with a firmware upgrade, now they have a hardware failure without a spare. I'm not familiar with

Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS

2008-02-07 Thread Mark Nash
5.3GHz 40MHz channel, 1.5 miles. WAR4-METRO/SR5 inside 24dbi RooTennas. Testing beyond each ethernet port. 2 weeks non-stop stress-testing after we installed and before we deployed gave us 70 megs one way. The MRTG graph looked like a solid block without any deviation. Mark Nash

Re: [WISPA] pppoe server, Redback capability of other solutions?

2008-02-07 Thread Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net
This is an area that MT has shown considerable interest in as well as have several GOOD hardware products out there. The 1000 is going to be a contender. Not as expandable, but with the price vs performance, don't think you can go wrong. A non MT based product is the PoweRouter 732. There are

Re: [WISPA] Tornado

2008-02-07 Thread Blake Bowers
Even some of the old ATT towers were knocked down by tornados. Bloomfield MO, Huntsville AR were a couple. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2008-02-07 Thread Tom DeReggi
What this author so quickly forgets is, Spectrum is to serve the public interest not the treasury's pocket. And the Public pays more, when the providers pay more for spectrum. The auctiioon clearly will be a victory, if it means more than one or tow big companies get a peice. Tom DeReggi

Re: [WISPA] pppoe server, Redback capability of other solutions?

2008-02-07 Thread rabbtux rabbtux
Thanks everyone! It sounds like suggesting an MT-PC based solution to my new upstream provider would not be productive in this situation. Sounds like 2000 sessions really requires a serious solution. I would not want to suggest something like this and have my customers suffer for it. Thanks