Re: [WISPA] TOWERS
I get most of our Rohn equipment from Tessco. However, our tower guy is a distributer for Pirod which are great towers as well. (solid rod) I hope your not doing a free standing 60 footer in 25G, that would scare the hell out of me. 45g (maybe) -Cameron Who are you guys buying free standing towers from these days. Looking for new or near new 25G or 45g 60 foot or something similar. We are looking for a distributor in the western US Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik VRRP
Sam I believe the problem you are having here related to the fact that the VRRP aren't synchronized on both sides of your routers. For example: MT1 world fails to MT2, however MT1 still has a valid VRRP for the AP side. Down stream traffic from world actually now is hitting MT2 and proceeds to AP, however the upstream path for AP to the world actually passes through MT1 which has the failed link. Unless there is a process to synchronize the VRRPs you will not be able to get the desired effect. Ideally when MT1 fails, MT2 must become master for all VRRPs. HFC Sam Tetherow wrote: I've been testing out VRRP and it seems to work pretty well if you want to fail over from one machine to another on a single interface. But what I would really like to be able to do is duplicate my MT routers against equipment failure rather than network failure. Example: CPE AP ---+--MT1- + - WORLD | | +--MT2 - + MT1 and MT2 are both routing between AP and the world. AP is 172.16.2.0/24 WORLD is 10.0.0.0/24 MT1 has Internal (AP) address of 172.16.2.1 External (WORLD) address of 10.0.0.1 vrrp1 (AP) address of 172.16.2.254 vrrp2 (WORLD) address of 10.0.0.254 MT2 has: Internal (AP) address of 172.16.2.2 External (WORLD) address of 10.0.0.2 vrrp1 (AP) address of 172.16.2.254 vrrp2 (WORLD) address of 10.0.0.254 172.16.2.0/24 is routed to 10.0.0.254 172.16.2.0 side has a default gateway of 172.16.2.254 When the AP side of MT1 is unplugged MT2 takes over and only a couple of pings are dropped. However if the WORLD side of MT1 is unplugged about 4 pings time out and then I start getting destination unreachable. The VRRP failover works on both sides. If the WORLD side of MT1 is unplugged I can ping 10.0.0.254 and get a response from MT2. But on the internal end of things MT1 is still 172.16.2.254 so I get the host unreachable message. So what I'm really looking for is high availability for the router and I was hoping that VRRP would do the trick. I thought about bridging but at NOC I have several networks that all connect to my main MT router and I really don't want to bridge the traffic. If anyone has a clue, or can definitively say it can't be done with VRRP I would greatly appreciate the help. -- Henry F. Camacho Jr. Unplugged Cities, LLC 800 Washington Ave No Suite 501 Minneapolis, MN 55401 763-235-3005 (Office) 763-257-6898 (Cell) tknightowl (Skype) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (email) www.unpluggedcities.com (www) KC0KUS (Amateur Radio) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] High Speed Legislation
Any WISPA or non-member viewer of this list in Washington State should go to http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summary.aspx?bill=6438year=2007 and familiarize yourself with a pretty far reaching attempt of our legislature to expand, educate and require reporting from all high speed Internet providers. Deadline for comment on the record is 2/26/08 to the registry clerk of Water, Energy Telecommunications Committee. Forbes Mercy President - Washington Broadband, Inc. Yakima, WA [EMAIL PROTECTED] WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Did I order wrong Tranzeo product?
All, I have mikrotik SR5 AP deployed, and wanted to use it for high end customers in addition to the backhaul it now provides. I ordered a Tranzeo TR-5a-24f unit to test as a CPE. It seems that none of the channels match up between the two units. Is this the wrong unit to use, or am I missing something? Thanks, Marshall, Rabbit Meadows Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Did I order wrong Tranzeo product?
While I have never used an SR5 for the card in the MT I have plenty of TR5a's connect to MTs using CM9 and R52 cards. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless rabbtux rabbtux wrote: All, I have mikrotik SR5 AP deployed, and wanted to use it for high end customers in addition to the backhaul it now provides. I ordered a Tranzeo TR-5a-24f unit to test as a CPE. It seems that none of the channels match up between the two units. Is this the wrong unit to use, or am I missing something? Thanks, Marshall, Rabbit Meadows Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik VRRP
You are correct in your analysis. I have testing with a single interface using /tool netwatch to disable/enable the vrrp interfaces. I'm still thinking through the implications. In my scenario I have a single provider so it makes sense to tie netwatch the upstream IP. If it goes away on the primary router I'll shut down all of the vrrp interfaces in hopes that the secondary can still see it. I'm still trying to figure out if there are any gotchas on doing the same thing for the non-upstream interfaces. For instance if I lose a switch port or network card on the MT. Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Henry F. Camacho Jr. wrote: Sam I believe the problem you are having here related to the fact that the VRRP aren't synchronized on both sides of your routers. For example: MT1 world fails to MT2, however MT1 still has a valid VRRP for the AP side. Down stream traffic from world actually now is hitting MT2 and proceeds to AP, however the upstream path for AP to the world actually passes through MT1 which has the failed link. Unless there is a process to synchronize the VRRPs you will not be able to get the desired effect. Ideally when MT1 fails, MT2 must become master for all VRRPs. HFC Sam Tetherow wrote: I've been testing out VRRP and it seems to work pretty well if you want to fail over from one machine to another on a single interface. But what I would really like to be able to do is duplicate my MT routers against equipment failure rather than network failure. Example: CPE AP ---+--MT1- + - WORLD | | +--MT2 - + MT1 and MT2 are both routing between AP and the world. AP is 172.16.2.0/24 WORLD is 10.0.0.0/24 MT1 has Internal (AP) address of 172.16.2.1 External (WORLD) address of 10.0.0.1 vrrp1 (AP) address of 172.16.2.254 vrrp2 (WORLD) address of 10.0.0.254 MT2 has: Internal (AP) address of 172.16.2.2 External (WORLD) address of 10.0.0.2 vrrp1 (AP) address of 172.16.2.254 vrrp2 (WORLD) address of 10.0.0.254 172.16.2.0/24 is routed to 10.0.0.254 172.16.2.0 side has a default gateway of 172.16.2.254 When the AP side of MT1 is unplugged MT2 takes over and only a couple of pings are dropped. However if the WORLD side of MT1 is unplugged about 4 pings time out and then I start getting destination unreachable. The VRRP failover works on both sides. If the WORLD side of MT1 is unplugged I can ping 10.0.0.254 and get a response from MT2. But on the internal end of things MT1 is still 172.16.2.254 so I get the host unreachable message. So what I'm really looking for is high availability for the router and I was hoping that VRRP would do the trick. I thought about bridging but at NOC I have several networks that all connect to my main MT router and I really don't want to bridge the traffic. If anyone has a clue, or can definitively say it can't be done with VRRP I would greatly appreciate the help. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] TOWERS
For infrastructure items such as towers, it's hard to beat Tessco. I have used them for over 30 years of wireless builds. Joe -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CHUCK PROFITO Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 10:02 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] TOWERS Who are you guys buying free standing towers from these days. Looking for new or near new 25G or 45g 60 foot or something similar. We are looking for a distributor in the western US Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Tranzeo tr-6000 ap
Anyone else having trouble with these? It's like Jeckle and Hide. Sometimes they work great, other times they lock up constantly. In my case it's pretty location dependant. Take a place that they won't work, use that same radio somewhere else and it seems to work ok. At the place it wouldn't work, put in something else and the new gear runs fine. They almost all lock up from time to time on me. Some locations worse so than others. It seems to be interference related. Like the radio gets tired of retries or some other thing and finally just rolls over and wets it's self. Sure we see slow downs and other things with all of the product we use, that's kind of expected in this day and age. But even the SB ap's have been more stable lately. sigh, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo tr-6000 ap
Replacing my last 6000 series AP next week. I had to. The Latvian solution I have been using for the last year just works better (TM). You are completely correct about Jeckle and Hyde. I had one that would just stop responding for NO reason. At the same tower site I had a 6500 series that supported 70+ customers with 6Mbit+ throughput for over 5 days while I had a radio go out. Remember that Tranzeo's AP (sans the SuperAP thing) are just CPE with a software tweak. ryan On Feb 22, 2008, at 5:13 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote: Anyone else having trouble with these? It's like Jeckle and Hide. Sometimes they work great, other times they lock up constantly. In my case it's pretty location dependant. Take a place that they won't work, use that same radio somewhere else and it seems to work ok. At the place it wouldn't work, put in something else and the new gear runs fine. They almost all lock up from time to time on me. Some locations worse so than others. It seems to be interference related. Like the radio gets tired of retries or some other thing and finally just rolls over and wets it's self. Sure we see slow downs and other things with all of the product we use, that's kind of expected in this day and age. But even the SB ap's have been more stable lately. sigh, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo tr-6000 ap
We have seen similar issues. We had three come off of a tower ten miles past nowhere. They would work for a max 2 weeks and fail. Even reboots would not work. All grounding was redone, even removed. The problem went away when we replaced it with another brand ap. On another tower we had another wisp about ten blocks away with breezeaccess 2.4 there we reduced the antenna gain and eventually replaced the tranzeos with different aps. That was definitely a interference issue, but the tranzeo seemed to handle the noise terribly. Ryan -Original Message- From: Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2008 7:13 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo tr-6000 ap Anyone else having trouble with these? It's like Jeckle and Hide. Sometimes they work great, other times they lock up constantly. In my case it's pretty location dependant. Take a place that they won't work, use that same radio somewhere else and it seems to work ok. At the place it wouldn't work, put in something else and the new gear runs fine. They almost all lock up from time to time on me. Some locations worse so than others. It seems to be interference related. Like the radio gets tired of retries or some other thing and finally just rolls over and wets it's self. Sure we see slow downs and other things with all of the product we use, that's kind of expected in this day and age. But even the SB ap's have been more stable lately. sigh, Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ [The entire original message is not included] WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
