Re: [WISPA] cat5
Travis, I know you found a source, but if you need anything in the future, try CablesForLess.com. They are here in Indiana, and they make custom cables. I use them for all my cat5 patch cables and I have had good luck. I also know they make cables for the government on old equipment (60s and 70s vintage) that the cables are no longer made. It is not limited to computer/network. Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 1:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] cat5 Found someone to make them. thanks. Travis Microserv Mike Hammett wrote: All I can think of would be to make it yourself. I know Panduit does some custom work, but I'm not sure if it extends to what pins are connected on cables. I'll ask. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 3:48 PM Subject: [WISPA] cat5 Hi, I am looking for a source for CAT5 patch cables. However, I only want the ethernet pins to be connected (1,2,3 and 6). Any ideas? Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] May 29, 2008 - FCC Committee Status Report
The recent thoughtful and lively discussions about WISP use of TV White Space underscores more than ever the need for effective WISPA advocacy with Congress and with the FCC. I want to take this opportunity to update all of you on how the work of WISPA's FCC Committee is progressing. First, I want to express my thanks and my gratitude to the following WISPA members who have recently volunteered (or in some cases re-enlisted) to work on one or more of the new FCC Committee Workgroups. Brian Webster Carl Stevenson Jim Garrett John McDowell Kyle Duren John Scrivner Dan Lubar Steve Lane Stephen Coran Edward Gabrelian Marlon Schaffer Dave Hulsebus Tony Morella Paul Benner Tom DeReggi NOTE 1: If you were (or are) a member of the FCC Committee but you don't see your name on the above list, please contact me as soon as possible to let me know that you are still interested in playing an active role on the Committee. NOTE 2: Participation on the FCC Committee IS limited to WISPA members. If you would like to participate and if you have been thinking of joining, this would be a good time to sign up as either a Vendor, Principal or Associate member here http://signup.wispa.org/. If you have questions about membership, please direct them to the WISPA Board here http://contact.wispa.org/. Although most of the following twelve new Workgroups now have at least two and in some cases as many as eight members we still need more help. Please take a look at the following Workgroup list and let me know if you can participate in at least one of the these new Workgroups. Calendaring and Minutes Level Playing Field Engineering TV Whitespace 3650 MHz 2.5 GHz Whitespace Pole Attachment Network Management and Network Neutrality Spectrum Etiquette Congressional Liaison FCC Liaison Writing The two Workgroups most in need of assistance are the Calendaring and Minutes and the Pole Attachment Workgroups. If you can help with one of these or if you want more details about the specific role of any Workgroup then please send me an email or give me a call. WISPA listservs have been created for each Workgroup and they will be populated by the end of the day Monday, June 2nd. Each Workgroup will work independently however the entire Committee will meet online twice each month where we will coordinate, communicate and assist each another to address the many issues that extend across Workgroup lines. The initial online meetings will be via IRC (hosted by Mt. Vernon Net). In the future, we anticipate migrating the twice-monthly online meeting from IRC to a conference call, hosted by WISPA. Regarding the much anticipated FCC trip, the WISPA Board and the FCC Committee have been budgeting and planning for this trip for several months. The recent on-list discussions about the TV Whitespace spectrum have been very helpful in both addressing relevant technical issues and in providing increased focus to help WISPA develop a clear, positive and beneficial position to present to the FCC. A lot of additional coordination, policy formation and presentation development work still remains to be done. Next week I anticipate that this work will be handed off to the new TV Whitespace Workgroup and then to the new FCC Liaison Workgroup. For now, please continue to share your thoughts and ideas on TV Whitespace and other important spectrum issues using the either the FCC Committee listserv ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) or the FCC Discussion listserv ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) or by emailing me directly. Let me know if you are an FCC Committee member and you need to be subscribed to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] listserv. Anyone can subscribe themselves to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] listserv. Again, my thanks to those of you who have stepped up to play an important role in WISPA's industry lobbying effort. If you have not yet stepped up, we still need you and we want you to play an active, positive role. We have plenty of room for every WISPA member who wants to learn, to work and to share in our success. Respectfully, Jack Unger Chair - FCC Committee -- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 Cisco Press Author - Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs Vendor-Neutral Wireless Design-Training-Troubleshooting-Consulting FCC License # PG-12-25133 Profile http://www.linkedin.com/in/jackunger Phone 818-227-4220 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] WISPA Board Applications Due Monday
No more time to procrastinate. We have 5 applications in so far, we would like to get to at least 10 applications. This is your chance to make a difference. Application Deadline is Monday, June 2nd, 2008, get your applications submitted this week! The 2008 WISPA Board Election schedule has been set by the current Board of Directors. Any and all members who are interested in entering the election process for a seat on the board are encouraged to do so by going to http://nominations.wispa.org/ - make sure that you qualify for the position by checking the hurdle criteria and then fill out the application that is also located by a hyper link http://nominations.wispa.org/application.html at the bottom of the page. We look forward to having a large field of qualified candidates to choose from and encourage all who feel they have something to contribute, a heart for the wireless industry and a desire to step up to the plate to serve this industry to follow through with the completing of the application. We have seen substantial growth in the past year in both principal and vendor memberships and as WISPA continues to grow and mature into what will be the industries finest lobbying association - we look forward to being a loud voice in Washington D.C. for all WISPs. DEADLINES TO BE AWARE OF: June 2, 2008 - Applications are due. June 9, 2008 - Qualified applicants compiled and submitted. Applicant information is made available via the WISPA Web site for member review. June 16, 2008 - Voting begins June 17, 2008 - Voting ends. Standing Board announces election results. All members are eligible to run for a board position. Only Principal and Vendor members are eligible to vote in the election of the BoD. Only one vote per company is allowed and accepted for the BoD election. Instructions and credentials for voting will be sent via WISPA mail server for each Vendor Company and each Principal Member of WISPA. If you are a member/vendor member and do not receive these instructions for voting (as well as credentials) it is your duty to contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] or call me at 318.728.8600 to request help in getting your instructions and credentials for voting in the BoD election. ROLE OF THE WISPA BoD The Board of Directors set the policies that will ensure the fulfillment of all legal and professional responsibility to its members. The BoD also sets the strategic direction of WISPA and steer it in the direction it deems best to accomplish the tasks and deeds needed for the advancement of the WISP community of which it serves. The WISPA BoD is comprised of 7 WISPA Members. Each of the directors shall serve for a term of one (1) year and until his successor is elected and qualified, or until such directors earlier death, resignation, incapacity to serve or removal. All paid WISPA members are eligible for board positions, however the majority of board seats will be filled by WISPA Principal members as stated in the bylaws located at http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=4 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 'family friendly' isp filtering solutions
what 'protection' do I have as a small wisp? Only want to offer something similar to what my local competition already is. On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 2:18 PM, David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rabbtux rabbtux wrote: I'm looking into providing a 'family friendly' option to our services. At the risk of starting another one of those famous flamewars, is this (legally speaking) a sound idea? If you start modifying customers' traffic, even if it's at their request, doesn't that put you at risk of losing common-carrier protection if someone paying for filtering still sees naked women or other things they don't want to see? I promise this isn't a troll - I really am not too familiar with the law in this area, aside from the classic cases (Stratton Oakmont vs Prodigy, Section 230 of the CDA, and so on), and I'm certainly not a lawyer. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] IDS
Hi, I'm looking for a quick and easy IDS package (ISO would be preferred) that I can install for some basic network sniffing (viruses, worms, SMURF, DOS, etc.). I know about Snort, but it is a huge project to get everything installed and working correctly. Anyone know of an ISO (even with Snort ready to run), etc.? or something similar? thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IDS
There was a Linux distro called Sentinix that has since become unmaintained. It was a canned distro with Nagios, Snort, Cacti, MRTG all loaded up and ready to go. If you're looking for something quick and easy it might be worth a shot, although the packages are likely quite old by now. Patrick Shoemaker President, Vector Data Systems LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] office: (301) 358-1690 x36 mobile: (410) 991-5791 http://www.vectordatasystems.com Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a quick and easy IDS package (ISO would be preferred) that I can install for some basic network sniffing (viruses, worms, SMURF, DOS, etc.). I know about Snort, but it is a huge project to get everything installed and working correctly. Anyone know of an ISO (even with Snort ready to run), etc.? or something similar? thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 'family friendly' isp filtering solutions
rabbtux rabbtux wrote: what 'protection' do I have as a small wisp? Only want to offer something similar to what my local competition already is. That doesn't mean it's any wiser for them to offer the service than it would be for you - just that they might have already answered this question, or aren't smart enough even to ask, or have amazingly deep pockets, or... My boss has brought up this idea once or twice before, and this thread may well inspire him to ask about it again. The possibility of our being sued out of existence, however slim, is sufficient cause to to stop and think very carefully about offering this service, IMO. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 'family friendly' isp filtering solutions
Sorry to be coming in late on this thread... are we talking about content filtering? Like not allowing playboy.com to people that want that type service? If so, we have been doing that for over 5 years. Schools, libraries, government agencies, residential users, etc. all pay "extra" (from $1/month to $100/month depending on number of users and load). Travis Microserv David E. Smith wrote: rabbtux rabbtux wrote: what 'protection' do I have as a small wisp? Only want to offer something similar to what my local competition already is. That doesn't mean it's any wiser for them to offer the service than it would be for you - just that they might have already answered this question, or aren't smart enough even to ask, or have amazingly deep pockets, or... My boss has brought up this idea once or twice before, and this thread may well inspire him to ask about it again. The possibility of our being sued out of existence, however slim, is sufficient cause to to stop and think very carefully about offering this service, IMO. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 'family friendly' isp filtering solutions
Travis Johnson wrote: Sorry to be coming in late on this thread... are we talking about content filtering? Like not allowing playboy.com to people that want that type service? If so, we have been doing that for over 5 years. Schools, libraries, government agencies, residential users, etc. all pay extra (from $1/month to $100/month depending on number of users and load). That's exactly what we're talking about - I'm specifically concerned about the legal implications of an ISP offering it, not whether it's fiscally viable. (That's pretty much a given - something like DansGuardian and some clever firewalling/routing voodoo can be set up for virtually no cost, and there are plenty of other options depending on your network topology and your budget.) I'm curious as to whether an ISP offering content filtering incurs any extra legal exposure, and risks losing common-carrier status if, for instance, someone pays for block the porn! and some porn gets through anyway. Most of the case law on this subject that I've seen is five to ten years old, which is an eternity in Internet years. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 'family friendly' isp filtering solutions
Hi, We've never had a legal issue in all the years we have offered the service. We tell people "nothing is 100%, but this will do 99%, but if they are looking for it, they will find it anyway". Travis Microserv David E. Smith wrote: Travis Johnson wrote: Sorry to be coming in late on this thread... are we talking about content filtering? Like not allowing playboy.com to people that want that type service? If so, we have been doing that for over 5 years. Schools, libraries, government agencies, residential users, etc. all pay "extra" (from $1/month to $100/month depending on number of users and load). That's exactly what we're talking about - I'm specifically concerned about the legal implications of an ISP offering it, not whether it's fiscally viable. (That's pretty much a given - something like DansGuardian and some clever firewalling/routing voodoo can be set up for virtually no cost, and there are plenty of other options depending on your network topology and your budget.) I'm curious as to whether an ISP offering content filtering incurs any extra legal exposure, and risks losing common-carrier status if, for instance, someone pays for "block the porn!" and some porn gets through anyway. Most of the case law on this subject that I've seen is five to ten years old, which is an eternity in Internet years. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 'family friendly' isp filtering solutions
TRAVIS, Please, what are you using? Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 2:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 'family friendly' isp filtering solutions Sorry to be coming in late on this thread... are we talking about content filtering? Like not allowing playboy.com to people that want that type service? If so, we have been doing that for over 5 years. Schools, libraries, government agencies, residential users, etc. all pay extra (from $1/month to $100/month depending on number of users and load). Travis Microserv David E. Smith wrote: rabbtux rabbtux wrote: what 'protection' do I have as a small wisp? Only want to offer something similar to what my local competition already is. That doesn't mean it's any wiser for them to offer the service than it would be for you - just that they might have already answered this question, or aren't smart enough even to ask, or have amazingly deep pockets, or... My boss has brought up this idea once or twice before, and this thread may well inspire him to ask about it again. The possibility of our being sued out of existence, however slim, is sufficient cause to to stop and think very carefully about offering this service, IMO. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IDS
YOu might have some luck with this: http://search-www.vmware.com/socialsearch/query?cn=vmwarecc=wwwst=1adv=0bn_uf=VMware_Site_appliances_dirbn_if=VMware_Site_appliances_dirq=snortx=0y=0 Ryan Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a quick and easy IDS package (ISO would be preferred) that I can install for some basic network sniffing (viruses, worms, SMURF, DOS, etc.). I know about Snort, but it is a huge project to get everything installed and working correctly. Anyone know of an ISO (even with Snort ready to run), etc.? or something similar? thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Ryan Langseth System Administrator InvisiMax email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 218.745.6030 Cell: 701.739.1577 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 'family friendly' isp filtering solutions
www.8e6.com I can tell you it's not cheap. It costs us about $12,000 per year for the service. YMMV depending on the size of your network, number of users, etc. Travis Microserv CHUCK PROFITO wrote: TRAVIS, Please, what are you using? Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 2:53 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 'family friendly' isp filtering solutions Sorry to be coming in late on this thread... are we talking about content filtering? Like not allowing playboy.com to people that want that type service? If so, we have been doing that for over 5 years. Schools, libraries, government agencies, residential users, etc. all pay extra (from $1/month to $100/month depending on number of users and load). Travis Microserv David E. Smith wrote: rabbtux rabbtux wrote: what 'protection' do I have as a small wisp? Only want to offer something similar to what my local competition already is. That doesn't mean it's any wiser for them to offer the service than it would be for you - just that they might have already answered this question, or aren't smart enough even to ask, or have amazingly deep pockets, or... My boss has brought up this idea once or twice before, and this thread may well inspire him to ask about it again. The possibility of our being sued out of existence, however slim, is sufficient cause to to stop and think very carefully about offering this service, IMO. David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IDS
Hi, This link actually led me to Untangle, which is a cool system I was led to about a month ago while looking for another user tracking program. I didn't realize it had Snort built into it... I'm going to give it a shot. Thanks. Travis Microserv Ryan Langseth wrote: YOu might have some luck with this: http://search-www.vmware.com/socialsearch/query?cn=vmwarecc=wwwst=1adv=0bn_uf=VMware_Site_appliances_dirbn_if=VMware_Site_appliances_dirq=snortx=0y=0 Ryan Travis Johnson wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a quick and easy IDS package (ISO would be preferred) that I can install for some basic network sniffing (viruses, worms, SMURF, DOS, etc.). I know about Snort, but it is a huge project to get everything installed and working correctly. Anyone know of an ISO (even with Snort ready to run), etc.? or something similar? thanks, Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] FCC changes
This could turn in to something it shouldn't really fast... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/30/AR2008053002776.html We charge 100% of the remaining contract because we are eating the cost on the equipment and rolling a truck (for both installation and pickup). Now they want to regulate how much we can charge for early termination. :( Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 'family friendly' isp filtering solutions
On Thu, 29 May 2008, rabbtux rabbtux wrote: I'm looking into providing a 'family friendly' option to our services. Would like to provide a solution to end customers that requires no software, just call us. I've used Dansguardian before, but it might be difficult to mantain a 'one size fits all' proxy for customers. Who out there is offering this type of service, and what are the simple (and profitable) ways of doing it?? You may want to look at OpenDNS (www.opendns.com) as a possible solution. It allows you to configure the components that you block and is a really easy thing to do. All you would have to do is set up your network with them, then redirect their DNS traffic to the opendns servers. That's all there is to it. -- *Butch Evans*Professional Network Consultation * *Network Engineering*MikroTik RouterOS * *573-276-2879 *ImageStream * *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE * *Mikrotik Certified Consultant *Wired or Wireless Networks* WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/