Re: [WISPA] 3650 XR3 locations

2008-06-05 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Exactly, with that attitude from the FCC then all of my network is 100% FCC
certified because all the radio's have an FCC number on them, I would just
have to put that number on the outside of the rootenna.

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com
 
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Butch Evans
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 11:57 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650 XR3 locations

On Wed, 4 Jun 2008, Kyle Duren wrote:

*Response: *

Since the device is already certified, it can be installed into a 
final basestation without further approval, as long as the FCCID 
label is attached on the outside of the final product.  However, if 
your company wishes to obtain it's own FCC number for the final 
product, then you must apply for an original FCCID.

WOW!  I wonder if this type of flexibility carries over to 2.4 and 
5gig.  I know this has been a REALLY contentious question, but if 
that's the response in 3.65, I have to question the reality of FCC 
views in other bands that are NOT licensed.

-- 

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[WISPA] Antenna Quote

2008-06-05 Thread Mike Hammett
This goes out to the vendors on this list.  I'm looking at the following MTI 
antenna.  I would like quotes on these or similar antenna.

MT-484032/NH  MT-484027/NH

How much different performance should I see from a 14 dBi null filled antenna 
vs. a 16.5 dBi regular antenna?


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Re: [WISPA] 3650 XR3 locations

2008-06-05 Thread Randy Cosby
Well, let's ask! :)

I assume part-15 rules are written quite a bit differently on this 
matter than part-90, but hey, why not ask?

Randy


Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
 Exactly, with that attitude from the FCC then all of my network is 100% FCC
 certified because all the radio's have an FCC number on them, I would just
 have to put that number on the outside of the rootenna.

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com
  
  
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Butch Evans
 Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 11:57 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650 XR3 locations

 On Wed, 4 Jun 2008, Kyle Duren wrote:

   
 *Response: *
 

   
 Since the device is already certified, it can be installed into a 
 final basestation without further approval, as long as the FCCID 
 label is attached on the outside of the final product.  However, if 
 your company wishes to obtain it's own FCC number for the final 
 product, then you must apply for an original FCCID.
 

 WOW!  I wonder if this type of flexibility carries over to 2.4 and 
 5gig.  I know this has been a REALLY contentious question, but if 
 that's the response in 3.65, I have to question the reality of FCC 
 views in other bands that are NOT licensed.

   

-- 
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Vice President
InfoWest, Inc

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[WISPA] Tower Costs

2008-06-05 Thread Victoria Proffer
I am working on a proposal that I would need x15 190' free standing towers.
I would hope to find them some where central to Missouri.

Please hit me off list.

Thanks.
Victoria Proffer
CEO
St. Louis Broadband
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www.StLBroadband.com
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Re: [WISPA] Antenna Quote

2008-06-05 Thread Mac Dearman
Mike asked:
 How much different performance should I see from a 14 dBi null filled
 antenna vs. a 16.5 dBi regular antenna?

  
  My being the smart a** that I naturally am (and can't seem to help) and
would not take this answer to the bank but, the logical answer seems to be
2.5dbi :)

Mac



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 This goes out to the vendors on this list.  I'm looking at the
 following MTI antenna.  I would like quotes on these or similar
 antenna.
 
 MT-484032/NH  MT-484027/NH
 
 How much different performance should I see from a 14 dBi null filled
 antenna vs. a 16.5 dBi regular antenna?
 
 
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 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Antenna Quote

2008-06-05 Thread Cameron Kilton
Nice.

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Behalf Of Mac Dearman
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 1:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Quote

Mike asked:
 How much different performance should I see from a 14 dBi null filled
 antenna vs. a 16.5 dBi regular antenna?

  
  My being the smart a** that I naturally am (and can't seem to help)
and
would not take this answer to the bank but, the logical answer seems to
be
2.5dbi :)

Mac



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On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 9:43 AM
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 Subject: [WISPA] Antenna Quote
 
 This goes out to the vendors on this list.  I'm looking at the
 following MTI antenna.  I would like quotes on these or similar
 antenna.
 
 MT-484032/NH  MT-484027/NH
 
 How much different performance should I see from a 14 dBi null filled
 antenna vs. a 16.5 dBi regular antenna?
 
 
 --
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com
 
 
 

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Re: [WISPA] 3650 XR3 locations

2008-06-05 Thread Anthony Will
Not to burst a bubble but the special type certification that is part 
of part-15 was created for unlicensed solutions.  Most license holders 
are responsible for the equipment that is in use. Thus the equipment is 
only certified to meet special regs of the band, unlike unlicensed where 
the majority of the responsibility is on the manufacture. 

Anthony Will
Broadband Corp.
http://www.broadband-mn.com



Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
 Exactly, with that attitude from the FCC then all of my network is 100% FCC
 certified because all the radio's have an FCC number on them, I would just
 have to put that number on the outside of the rootenna.

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com
  
  
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Butch Evans
 Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 11:57 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650 XR3 locations

 On Wed, 4 Jun 2008, Kyle Duren wrote:

   
 *Response: *
 

   
 Since the device is already certified, it can be installed into a 
 final basestation without further approval, as long as the FCCID 
 label is attached on the outside of the final product.  However, if 
 your company wishes to obtain it's own FCC number for the final 
 product, then you must apply for an original FCCID.
 

 WOW!  I wonder if this type of flexibility carries over to 2.4 and 
 5gig.  I know this has been a REALLY contentious question, but if 
 that's the response in 3.65, I have to question the reality of FCC 
 views in other bands that are NOT licensed.

   



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[WISPA] Employee Incentives

2008-06-05 Thread Cameron Kilton
Does anybody out there practice this method of encouragement? If so,
what are some of the ways you reward your staff? Examples: Installs per
week, how many accounts you sold in a month, attendance, etc..

Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] Employee Incentives

2008-06-05 Thread chris cooper
We pay our customer svc. Employees a spiff on each sale they close.  Our
resi marketing efforts are designed to drive calls to our CSR staff.  We
want our staff to have a real incentive to convert those calls into
sales.  This also gives them an incentive to follow up with people who
call in but don't commit to buy on the first contact.  When call volume
is low, they pick up the sales tickets that are still open and give
those people a call back just to follow up and give them another
opportunity to buy. We can have the coolest technology in the world, but
if we don't sell services we don't grow our business.

Chris
Intelliwave LLC

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Does anybody out there practice this method of encouragement? If so,
what are some of the ways you reward your staff? Examples: Installs per
week, how many accounts you sold in a month, attendance, etc..

Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] 3650 XR3 locations

2008-06-05 Thread Tom Sharples
That is true only if the original modular radio was tested with an antenna 
of equal or greater gain. You'll want to look at the FCC filings that go 
with that radio; bring up the detail page and look at the test photos. Quite 
often you'll find that these modular radios were only tested with a low-gain 
rubber-duck omni.

Tom Sharples
Qorvus Systems, Inc.

- Original Message - 
From: Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 6:48 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650 XR3 locations


 Exactly, with that attitude from the FCC then all of my network is 100% 
 FCC
 certified because all the radio's have an FCC number on them, I would just
 have to put that number on the outside of the rootenna.

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Butch Evans
 Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 11:57 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650 XR3 locations

 On Wed, 4 Jun 2008, Kyle Duren wrote:

*Response: *

Since the device is already certified, it can be installed into a
final basestation without further approval, as long as the FCCID
label is attached on the outside of the final product.  However, if
your company wishes to obtain it's own FCC number for the final
product, then you must apply for an original FCCID.

 WOW!  I wonder if this type of flexibility carries over to 2.4 and
 5gig.  I know this has been a REALLY contentious question, but if
 that's the response in 3.65, I have to question the reality of FCC
 views in other bands that are NOT licensed.

 -- 
 
 *Butch Evans *Professional Network Consultation *
 *Network Engineering *MikroTik RouterOS*
 *573-276-2879 *ImageStream   *
 *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE   *
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Re: [WISPA] Antenna Quote

2008-06-05 Thread Brian Webster
Mac,
As an engineer this cracked me up :-) It would be even more funny if I 
knew
you were writing it after a long days work and you might have had a
drink



Thank You,
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www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Mac Dearman
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 1:22 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Antenna Quote


Mike asked:
 How much different performance should I see from a 14 dBi null filled
 antenna vs. a 16.5 dBi regular antenna?


  My being the smart a** that I naturally am (and can't seem to help) and
would not take this answer to the bank but, the logical answer seems to be
2.5dbi :)

Mac



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 9:43 AM
 To: WISPA List
 Subject: [WISPA] Antenna Quote

 This goes out to the vendors on this list.  I'm looking at the
 following MTI antenna.  I would like quotes on these or similar
 antenna.

 MT-484032/NH  MT-484027/NH

 How much different performance should I see from a 14 dBi null filled
 antenna vs. a 16.5 dBi regular antenna?


 --
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 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com



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Re: [WISPA] 3650 XR3 locations

2008-06-05 Thread Jack Unger
Right. The WISP then has the option of sending the AP or CPE to a 
certification lab with several different types of higher-gain outdoor 
antennas to get a new FCC ID number (a new certification) in /*your*/ 
company name. The cost is less than certifying without using the 
already-certified card because many of the RF tests do not need to be 
repeated because they were already done by the original manufacturer. 
The cost to do this depends on the number of antenna types tested but 
could run between $1800 (one or two antennas) to $2800 (more antennas).

jack


Tom Sharples wrote:
 That is true only if the original modular radio was tested with an antenna 
 of equal or greater gain. You'll want to look at the FCC filings that go 
 with that radio; bring up the detail page and look at the test photos. Quite 
 often you'll find that these modular radios were only tested with a low-gain 
 rubber-duck omni.

 Tom Sharples
 Qorvus Systems, Inc.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 6:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650 XR3 locations


   
 Exactly, with that attitude from the FCC then all of my network is 100% 
 FCC
 certified because all the radio's have an FCC number on them, I would just
 have to put that number on the outside of the rootenna.

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Butch Evans
 Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 11:57 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650 XR3 locations

 On Wed, 4 Jun 2008, Kyle Duren wrote:

 
 *Response: *
   
 Since the device is already certified, it can be installed into a
 final basestation without further approval, as long as the FCCID
 label is attached on the outside of the final product.  However, if
 your company wishes to obtain it's own FCC number for the final
 product, then you must apply for an original FCCID.
   
 WOW!  I wonder if this type of flexibility carries over to 2.4 and
 5gig.  I know this has been a REALLY contentious question, but if
 that's the response in 3.65, I have to question the reality of FCC
 views in other bands that are NOT licensed.

 -- 
 
 *Butch Evans *Professional Network Consultation *
 *Network Engineering *MikroTik RouterOS*
 *573-276-2879 *ImageStream   *
 *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE   *
 *Mikrotik Certified Consultant *Wired or Wireless Networks*
 


 
 
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Re: [WISPA] 3650 XR3 locations

2008-06-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 2
You cannot get anything certified without the schematic, block diagram, and 
other pieces of information that you may not be able to get from the 
manufacturer.  If the manufacturer does not cooperate, there isn't any way a 
WISP can obtain the certification.  Moreover, the RF tests do have to be 
tested due to the prospect of the out of band emissions changing with a 
change of antenna.  I have been through this several times.
- Original Message - 
From: Jack Unger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650 XR3 locations


 Right. The WISP then has the option of sending the AP or CPE to a
 certification lab with several different types of higher-gain outdoor
 antennas to get a new FCC ID number (a new certification) in /*your*/
 company name. The cost is less than certifying without using the
 already-certified card because many of the RF tests do not need to be
 repeated because they were already done by the original manufacturer.
 The cost to do this depends on the number of antenna types tested but
 could run between $1800 (one or two antennas) to $2800 (more antennas).

 jack


 Tom Sharples wrote:
 That is true only if the original modular radio was tested with an 
 antenna
 of equal or greater gain. You'll want to look at the FCC filings that go
 with that radio; bring up the detail page and look at the test photos. 
 Quite
 often you'll find that these modular radios were only tested with a 
 low-gain
 rubber-duck omni.

 Tom Sharples
 Qorvus Systems, Inc.

 - Original Message - 
 From: Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 6:48 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650 XR3 locations



 Exactly, with that attitude from the FCC then all of my network is 100%
 FCC
 certified because all the radio's have an FCC number on them, I would 
 just
 have to put that number on the outside of the rootenna.

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Butch Evans
 Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 11:57 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650 XR3 locations

 On Wed, 4 Jun 2008, Kyle Duren wrote:


 *Response: *

 Since the device is already certified, it can be installed into a
 final basestation without further approval, as long as the FCCID
 label is attached on the outside of the final product.  However, if
 your company wishes to obtain it's own FCC number for the final
 product, then you must apply for an original FCCID.

 WOW!  I wonder if this type of flexibility carries over to 2.4 and
 5gig.  I know this has been a REALLY contentious question, but if
 that's the response in 3.65, I have to question the reality of FCC
 views in other bands that are NOT licensed.

 -- 
 
 *Butch Evans *Professional Network Consultation *
 *Network Engineering *MikroTik RouterOS*
 *573-276-2879 *ImageStream   *
 *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE   *
 *Mikrotik Certified Consultant *Wired or Wireless Networks*
 


 
 
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Re: [WISPA] 3650 XR3 locations

2008-06-05 Thread Jack Unger
Chuck,

My point was that if the RF module has already received a modular 
certification but with a low-gain antenna then the process process of 
obtaining certification with additional (typically higher-gain outdoor) 
antennas is shortened. Typically in this instance, the original card 
manufacturer has obtained the original modular certification with the 
intent of promoting the sales of the card in a variety of different 
types of certified equipment. In other words, the card manufacturer is 
being cooperative. If you are paying your certification lab to run the 
same complete series of RF tests on a variety of equipment models that 
use the same modularly-certified card then you may be paying them too 
much. Feel free to hit me up offline so we can compare notes.

jack


Chuck McCown - 2 wrote:
 You cannot get anything certified without the schematic, block diagram, and 
 other pieces of information that you may not be able to get from the 
 manufacturer.  If the manufacturer does not cooperate, there isn't any way a 
 WISP can obtain the certification.  Moreover, the RF tests do have to be 
 tested due to the prospect of the out of band emissions changing with a 
 change of antenna.  I have been through this several times.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Jack Unger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 12:55 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650 XR3 locations


   
 Right. The WISP then has the option of sending the AP or CPE to a
 certification lab with several different types of higher-gain outdoor
 antennas to get a new FCC ID number (a new certification) in /*your*/
 company name. The cost is less than certifying without using the
 already-certified card because many of the RF tests do not need to be
 repeated because they were already done by the original manufacturer.
 The cost to do this depends on the number of antenna types tested but
 could run between $1800 (one or two antennas) to $2800 (more antennas).

 jack


 Tom Sharples wrote:
 
 That is true only if the original modular radio was tested with an 
 antenna
 of equal or greater gain. You'll want to look at the FCC filings that go
 with that radio; bring up the detail page and look at the test photos. 
 Quite
 often you'll find that these modular radios were only tested with a 
 low-gain
 rubber-duck omni.

 Tom Sharples
 Qorvus Systems, Inc.

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 From: Kurt Fankhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Exactly, with that attitude from the FCC then all of my network is 100%
 FCC
 certified because all the radio's have an FCC number on them, I would 
 just
 have to put that number on the outside of the rootenna.

 Kurt Fankhauser
 WAVELINC
 P.O. Box 126
 Bucyrus, OH 44820
 419-562-6405
 www.wavelinc.com


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 Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 11:57 PM
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 Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3650 XR3 locations

 On Wed, 4 Jun 2008, Kyle Duren wrote:


 
 *Response: *

 Since the device is already certified, it can be installed into a
 final basestation without further approval, as long as the FCCID
 label is attached on the outside of the final product.  However, if
 your company wishes to obtain it's own FCC number for the final
 product, then you must apply for an original FCCID.

   
 WOW!  I wonder if this type of flexibility carries over to 2.4 and
 5gig.  I know this has been a REALLY contentious question, but if
 that's the response in 3.65, I have to question the reality of FCC
 views in other bands that are NOT licensed.

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Re: [WISPA] Antenna Quote

2008-06-05 Thread Mike Hammett
I knew you had said something like this when I saw there was an email in 
that thread from you.  ;-)


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- Original Message - 
From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 12:22 PM
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 Mike asked:
 How much different performance should I see from a 14 dBi null filled
 antenna vs. a 16.5 dBi regular antenna?


  My being the smart a** that I naturally am (and can't seem to help) and
 would not take this answer to the bank but, the logical answer seems to be
 2.5dbi :)

 Mac



 -Original Message-
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 Behalf Of Mike Hammett
 Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 9:43 AM
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 Subject: [WISPA] Antenna Quote

 This goes out to the vendors on this list.  I'm looking at the
 following MTI antenna.  I would like quotes on these or similar
 antenna.

 MT-484032/NH  MT-484027/NH

 How much different performance should I see from a 14 dBi null filled
 antenna vs. a 16.5 dBi regular antenna?


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[WISPA] E rate

2008-06-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 2
The OIG reports that the first round of 459 audits pertaining to the 
various universal service fund programs identified approximately $6.2 
million in potential improper payments from the universal service fund that 
it is planning to recover.



An improper payment is defined as any payment that was made to an ineligible 
recipient or for an ineligible service, duplicate payments, payments for 
services not received, and payments that are for the incorrect amount.  The 
greatest amount of the improper payments (over $5.4 million) came from the 
Schools and Libraries Program.



If anyone on this list has been doing SLC/E rate work for schools, make sure 
you have good records and if you have done any sweetheart deals with any of 
the school districts, you may want to retain legal counsel.




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