Re: [WISPA] Update from the FCC on 3.65Ghz and CBP

2008-07-06 Thread Tom DeReggi
With the few exceptions of extreme things like selling Drugs to addicts, selling Guns to terrorists, selling stolen goods, I find it hard to call any seller unethical, if there is a willing buyer, and if it is clearly disclosed what is being sold without attempting to deceive the buyer, and

[WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz

2008-07-06 Thread jeffrey thomas
Since everyone was talking about wimax, thought I would throw my 3 cents in :) Benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz 1. Spectral efficiency ( 4.85 gross bp/hz ) On a six sector configuration with only 25mhz of spectrum, you can effectively deliver approx 20mb per sector or 120 mb / per pop, 240 mb when

Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz

2008-07-06 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Have you actually deployed WiMax @ 3.65 and have experienced this first hand? Where can I purchase sub $350 CPE on 3.65 today? This looks more like a vendor's ad than a WISP reporting real world experiences. Lots of dangling comparatives. - Original Message - From: jeffrey thomas

[WISPA] Board of Directors, Tell us about your Networks

2008-07-06 Thread John McDowell
I'd like to know how each and everyone of the Board of Directors runs his/her network: Routers? Billing Software? VoIP? Number of Customers? -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.boonlink.com This message

Re: [WISPA] Board of Directors, Tell us about your Networks

2008-07-06 Thread Butch Evans
On Sun, 6 Jul 2008, John McDowell wrote: I'd like to know how each and everyone of the Board of Directors runs his/her network: I'm not on the board, but wanted to add my own suggestions here. (BTW, why ask this question of just the BOD?) Routers? Mikrotik and ImageStream. Both have their

Re: [WISPA] Board of Directors, Tell us about your Networks

2008-07-06 Thread John McDowell
Thanks Butch, Scriv? Others? On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 6 Jul 2008, John McDowell wrote: I'd like to know how each and everyone of the Board of Directors runs his/her network: I'm not on the board, but wanted to add my own suggestions

Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz

2008-07-06 Thread Scottie Arnett
It would be great if this worked for everyone, everywhere. Still vendors are missing the point in many cases. Every place does NOT have a potential for 1000 subs (there is not a 1000 homes in the town I live), nor is every place FLAT that can be reached with service for 1000 subs. I have 4 900

Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz

2008-07-06 Thread Drew Lentz
I completely disagree with you on this topic. 3.65 makes a great play in a rural setting. I have spoken with many different groups who are capitalizing exactly on what benefits this frequency space offers in these environments. The price tags are not as high as you think, and the return on it

Re: [WISPA] VPN solutions for mobility environments

2008-07-06 Thread Aaron D. Osgood
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Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz

2008-07-06 Thread Jack Unger
Drew, Are you drawing your conclusions based on 3.65 deployments in other parts of the world? I ask because it's hard to imagine that there are already enough 3.65 deployments in the U.S. to draw all your conclusions. Also, physics is still physics. Even given advanced antenna systems, nLOS

Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz

2008-07-06 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
I totally agree. I am planning to deploy 3.65 in this area and will be one of the first if not the first. If there is a plethora of real life experience with this band with the existing products, I am all ears. But so far, I don't know of any actual WiMax 802.16d or e equipment deployments

Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz

2008-07-06 Thread John McDowell
We've got a Redline system with NLOS indoor mount at .75 miles. We did drive tests out to a mile NLOS, through trees, and got anywhere between 2-3Mbps at the lowest modulation. We plan to go live with the product this month... As soon as we get our routing situation fixed. On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at

Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz

2008-07-06 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Please give us regular updates. I need one PmP system to go 20 miles (LOS). Not sure Redline will do that at any speeds that are greater than Canopy. At 2-3 miles we get 4 Mbps through trees with Canopy. - Original Message - From: John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] solar equipment / partners?

2008-07-06 Thread Mike Hammett
No idea. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 11:01 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] solar equipment / partners? Is

[WISPA] POE

2008-07-06 Thread WWS2
Can someone explain why a school would want to pay $1900@ for 25 48-port 10/100/1000 switches with PoE capability for a possible future need versus $500-600 for a plain 48-port 10/100/1000 switch? No one that I can find has a reason except maybe it would be needed in 5 years.

Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz

2008-07-06 Thread Mike Hammett
Multiple vendors, but are any of them interoperable? I don't believe they are. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: jeffrey thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] POE

2008-07-06 Thread Dennis Burgess
Your tax dollars at work. -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* 314-735-0270 http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering LIVE Mikrotik On-Line

Re: [WISPA] POE

2008-07-06 Thread Mike Hammett
I can see going with PoE over non-PoE because of the many things you can do with it, once it's available. If they're smart, they'd deploy PoE gear immediately. $50k for labor or for the gear? For gear, well, math makes that happen. Labor? hah, nice... -- Mike Hammett Intelligent

Re: [WISPA] POE

2008-07-06 Thread D. Ryan Spott
HA! so true! At the Fed office where I do consulting they pay 3 figures for 768/128k DSL connections. If the DSL connection is greater that that, then they TURN THE SPEED DOWN to meet the requirements of the contract! The same office pays 4 figures for Moves, Adds or Changes. Even if the

Re: [WISPA] top 10 benefits of Wimax in 3.65ghz

2008-07-06 Thread John McDowell
We'll do Chuck On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 9:19 PM, Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please give us regular updates. I need one PmP system to go 20 miles (LOS). Not sure Redline will do that at any speeds that are greater than Canopy. At 2-3 miles we get 4 Mbps through trees with