Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

[Marlon K. Schafer]

We have an official definition of a wisp.  It was part of what we had to 
define in order for a person/company to be a principal member.
marlon

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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?


> Jack, how are we supposed to know?
>
> The only way to find anything approaching an average is to get those 500
> responses and average them.
>
> And t hen you still gotta define what a WISP is.   Is it the guy who 
> covers
> an area the size of two city blocks and has backhauled in DSL from 3 miles
> away?Is it only the person who has hired help?"You're not a real
> WISP until you're large enough to have employees".Huh, that seems self
> defeating..  But anyway,  averaging our opinion of what is average... 
> In
> my opinion there is no "average" that represents what a WISP is.  They 
> range
> from that guy with his 4 neighbors to people who cover 10 thousand square
> miles, and both are exceptional, rather than the norm.   But yet to add 
> them
> together and average that...
>
> I just can't seem to form an opinion of what "average" should be.
>
> And I'm not trying to argue with you... I'm just wondering, even if we 
> could
> somehow tabulate all this with actual counts, would averaging give us any
> useful data...  If I were to offer a response, i'd say that WISP's average
> between 50 and 500 cpe.   And that still seems indefensible, really, as a
> number, even when given in a range...   It's just a WAG...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> 
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" ;
> "Motorola Canopy User Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 7:48 PM
> Subject: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?
>
>
>> Guys and Gals,
>>
>> To help prepare for a planned FCC trip, I would appreciate your input on
>> the following question.
>>
>> "In your opinion, what is the average number of CPEs deployed per
>> independent WISP?"
>>
>> I'm not looking for the number of CPEs that YOU have deployed unless you
>> believe that your number is exactly the average of all independent
>> WISPs. I'm looking for the number that you believe the "average"
>> independent WISP has deployed. By "independent WISP" I'm not referring
>> to large national carriers, I'm referring to the "typical" type of WISP
>> operation that you are familiar with.
>>
>> I figure if I can get 30 responses then I'll have good data. I don't
>> want to "flood" the lists with 500 responses so after about 25 or 30
>> replies, I should have all the data I need. I guess what I'm saying is
>> that the "time to live" for this thread may be as short as 8 hours.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your help.
>>
>> Respectfully,
>>
>> jack (WISPA FCC Committee Chair)
>>
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[WISPA] Freespace Systems Introduces the first 1, 000mW High Performance 802.11b/g Radio

[George Rogato]

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/080723/20080723006177.html?.v=1

I got a couple of these in my hands to sample yesterday. Haven't had a 
chance to experiment with them yet.

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Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

[Marlon K. Schafer]

It's not possible to know that for sure.

But if I had to guess I'd have to say 500 to 1000 these days.

But there are getting to be a LOT of wisps with 1000+++ subs these days.  I 
remember reading about one that's 25k subs.

I think that a more important number would be the number of homes passed.

In my case that's probably upwards of 20,000 people.  Too bad that there is 
so much competition around here.
marlon

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Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 7:48 PM
Subject: [WISPA Members] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?


> Guys and Gals,
>
> To help prepare for a planned FCC trip, I would appreciate your input on
> the following question.
>
> "In your opinion, what is the average number of CPEs deployed per
> independent WISP?"
>
> I'm not looking for the number of CPEs that YOU have deployed unless you
> believe that your number is exactly the average of all independent
> WISPs. I'm looking for the number that you believe the "average"
> independent WISP has deployed. By "independent WISP" I'm not referring
> to large national carriers, I'm referring to the "typical" type of WISP
> operation that you are familiar with.
>
> I figure if I can get 30 responses then I'll have good data. I don't
> want to "flood" the lists with 500 responses so after about 25 or 30
> replies, I should have all the data I need. I guess what I'm saying is
> that the "time to live" for this thread may be as short as 8 hours.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> jack (WISPA FCC Committee Chair)
>
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Re: [WISPA] A glorious victory

[Marlon K. Schafer]

lol

coolness

marlon

- Original Message - 
From: "Chuck McCown - 3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 3:26 PM
Subject: [WISPA] A glorious victory


> Just got back from a county commission meeting.  We appealed conditions
> placed on a conditional use permit for a new tower.  They wanted us to
> provide a full acre of fall protection clearance around the tower (leased
> land).  That acre would be conveyed to the county.  They wanted the parcel
> fenced, and landscaped.  And the provision that no other development could
> ever be done there.
>
> This was for a 100 foot lattice tower in the middle of a cow pasture.  I
> argued equal protection, I showed were they have never made us do this any
> other location.  I told them I wanted the cows to graze under the tower. 
> We
> argued telecom act and the inapplicability of the ordinance cited.  I told
> them that they should require the local power company to have a clear fall
> zone around every power pole.
>
> The commissioners struck all the conditions.  The planning guy was trying 
> at
> the end to insert elements from the contract between us and the rancher. 
> I
> objected to anything from that contract being read into the record for 
> that
> proceeding.  They shut him down on that too.  The planner is a new guy, 
> just
> graduated from college in May as a planner or some such thing.  Our CUP 
> was
> one of the first things he did.  I tried to reason with him early in the
> process but he had to strut his stuff.  So his stuff got rolled into a 
> very
> tight tube and forcefully hammered into an orfice.  I think I will go out 
> on
> the back porch and crow a little.
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Need a Karlnet base station license

[Sales]

Been so long what is the Sg4200 license? We are decommissioning a large
amount of Karlnet and will be selling them off. We have down some kn205 base
stations with the license for base station mode.

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> 
> We had a bad storm that killed my last spare Karlnet base station this
> week and I have about 35 client systems I don't want to change out yet.
> My distributor said Proxim quit selling the license keys this year. The
> last board I have is loaded with SG4200 software and I wouldn't mind
> keeping it as I have a site running a PtP still using a pair of these.
> Does anyone have either a KN105 /205 board with SG4400 software? At the
> very least a SG4400 key.
> 
> Please send responses off list.
> 
> Thank you,
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Re: [WISPA] Just what we need.

[Marlon K. Schafer]

I agree with that.

But, reality being what it is

marlon

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 1:00 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Just what we need.


> Marlon, my friend, that is the wrong viewpoint.
>
> This is the RIGHT one...
>
> "Imagine the sales I could make if the taxpayers weren't subsidizing
> CenturyTel."
>
> The secret is not to become dependent upon subsidy...  The best is to take
> it from those who have built an entire industry of exploiting it, and let
> them fall into oblivion.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> 
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 8:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Just what we need.
>
>
>> Yeah.  And out here Century Tel gets $60 to $109 per month (depending on
>> who
>> you talk to) per pots line in USF funds.  Gee, I wonder why they require 
>> a
>> pots line for DSL  And they can sell DSL at retail rates at or below
>> the
>> wholesale rates.
>>
>> Man, what I could do with an extra $100 per month per sub!
>> marlon
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Chuck McCown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 8:22 AM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Just what we need.
>>
>>
>>> DSL is mostly gravy.  It gets shared through NECA in many cases, but it
>>> doesn't so much to support the local loop.
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>>> Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 8:54 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Just what we need.
>>>
>>>
 Well, not quite.

 A tarrifed pots line pays for the wire in the ground and the upkeep.

 DSL is gravy.

 Or did I miss something?
 marlon

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 Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 7:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Just what we need.


> Not true.  Not true at all.  Cable Companies are not rate of return
> regulated.  Every dollar they spend is below the line.  The ILECS are
> strictly regulated as to what can be spent above the line.  Tarrifed
> rates
> ONLY support tarrifed services.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" 
> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 11:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Just what we need.
>
>
>> Why not?
>>
>> Isn't that kinda what Cable Cos and ILECs Do?
>>
>> Tom DeReggi
>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Chuck McCown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 2:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Just what we need.
>>
>>
>>> The power company wants to take rate payer money and build a
>>> broadband
>>> network that will contact each meter for the purpose of managing
>>> energy.
>>> It
>>> will also supply broadband to the homeowner if they want.  This
>>> should
>>> not
>>> be allowed.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "David E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "WISPA General List" 
>>> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 1:34 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Just what we need.
>>>
>>>
 Chuck McCown wrote:
> Time to speak up.

 Anyone care to translate this for those among us who don't speak
 lawyerese, and who don't live/work in Indiana?

 David Smith
 MVN.net


 
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Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Redline SUA buzzer command?

[Gino Villarini]

Thanks to all 


Gino A. Villarini
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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 4:27 PM
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lol...3 at once

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Matt Liotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> set boardConfig Buzzer 1
>
> -Matt
>
> On Jul 23, 2008, at 4:14 PM, John McDowell wrote:
>
> > yeah, i tried it to...no workie
> >
> > I look through some of the manuals and see
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Tried that, no workie
> >>
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> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Redline SUA buzzer command?
> >>
> >> i think its something like
> >>
> >> set Buzzer 1
> >>
> >>
> >> Do you have any manuals?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> What is it?
> >>>
> >>> How do I activate the buzzer?
> >>>
> >>> Gino A. Villarini
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Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

[Scottie Arnett]

If the WISP filed their for 477 truthfully, the FCC should already have an
idea of what the average is out of the WISPs that filed. Considering how
many do or don't file them, I am not sure how accurate their data will be.

Scott

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Jack, how are we supposed to know?

The only way to find anything approaching an average is to get those 500 
responses and average them.

And t hen you still gotta define what a WISP is.   Is it the guy who covers 
an area the size of two city blocks and has backhauled in DSL from 3 miles 
away?Is it only the person who has hired help?"You're not a real 
WISP until you're large enough to have employees".Huh, that seems self 
defeating..  But anyway,  averaging our opinion of what is average...In 
my opinion there is no "average" that represents what a WISP is.  They range

from that guy with his 4 neighbors to people who cover 10 thousand square 
miles, and both are exceptional, rather than the norm.   But yet to add them

together and average that...

I just can't seem to form an opinion of what "average" should be.

And I'm not trying to argue with you... I'm just wondering, even if we could

somehow tabulate all this with actual counts, would averaging give us any 
useful data...  If I were to offer a response, i'd say that WISP's average 
between 50 and 500 cpe.   And that still seems indefensible, really, as a 
number, even when given in a range...   It's just a WAG...









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Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 7:48 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?


> Guys and Gals,
>
> To help prepare for a planned FCC trip, I would appreciate your input 
> on the following question.
>
> "In your opinion, what is the average number of CPEs deployed per 
> independent WISP?"
>
> I'm not looking for the number of CPEs that YOU have deployed unless 
> you believe that your number is exactly the average of all independent 
> WISPs. I'm looking for the number that you believe the "average" 
> independent WISP has deployed. By "independent WISP" I'm not referring 
> to large national carriers, I'm referring to the "typical" type of 
> WISP operation that you are familiar with.
>
> I figure if I can get 30 responses then I'll have good data. I don't 
> want to "flood" the lists with 500 responses so after about 25 or 30 
> replies, I should have all the data I need. I guess what I'm saying is 
> that the "time to live" for this thread may be as short as 8 hours.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> jack (WISPA FCC Committee Chair)
>
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Re: [WISPA] PacWireless POE

[Sam Tetherow]

What is your other solution?  I haven't had too many problems, but we do 
occasionally have the POEs go bad so I'm interested in other options.

Sam Tetherow
Sandhills Wireless

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I use them occaisionally and find they work "ok".   I once ran a box on them 
> that ran them close to full power, and it fried them within 2 weeks.  I went 
> through two of them rapid fire before I found a different solution.   Other 
> than that, they've been good for me.
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> - Original Message - 
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> To: "Motorola Canopy User Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" 
> 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:41 AM
> Subject: [WISPA] PacWireless POE
>
>
>   
>> Has anyone used the PacWireless 48v POE injectors? I hear they also 
>> provide
>> surge protection?
>>
>> The good the bad, the ugly?
>>
>> -- 
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>> Boonlink Communications
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Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

[reader]

- Original Message - 
From: "David E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?


> Something like 85% of the American population believes they're "middle
> class," regardless of how much money they're bringing in. I suspect this
> will be similarly skewed - I know how big my business is, and I think
> we're a fairly "average" WISP, so I'll guess that most WISPs are similar
> to the one that signs my paychecks.
>

Hey, wait a minute... I though, like Lake Woebegone, we were all above 
average... :)





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Re: [WISPA] PacWireless POE

[reader]

I use them occaisionally and find they work "ok".   I once ran a box on them 
that ran them close to full power, and it fried them within 2 weeks.  I went 
through two of them rapid fire before I found a different solution.   Other 
than that, they've been good for me.







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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 10:41 AM
Subject: [WISPA] PacWireless POE


> Has anyone used the PacWireless 48v POE injectors? I hear they also 
> provide
> surge protection?
>
> The good the bad, the ugly?
>
> -- 
> John M. McDowell
> Boonlink Communications
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> Fort Payne, AL 35967
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Re: [WISPA] PacWireless POE

[Mike Hammett]

I prefer to use PacWireless PoE over any other.


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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:41 PM
Subject: [WISPA] PacWireless POE


> Has anyone used the PacWireless 48v POE injectors? I hear they also 
> provide
> surge protection?
>
> The good the bad, the ugly?
>
> -- 
> John M. McDowell
> Boonlink Communications
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> Fort Payne, AL 35967
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Re: [WISPA] PacWireless POE

[Mike Hammett]

I prefer to use PacWireless PoE over any other.


--
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- Original Message - 
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To: "Motorola Canopy User Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "WISPA General List" 

Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 12:41 PM
Subject: [WISPA] PacWireless POE


> Has anyone used the PacWireless 48v POE injectors? I hear they also 
> provide
> surge protection?
>
> The good the bad, the ugly?
>
> -- 
> John M. McDowell
> Boonlink Communications
> 307 Grand Ave NW
> Fort Payne, AL 35967
> 256.844.9932
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> www.boonlink.com
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Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Redline SUA buzzer command?

[John McDowell]

lol...3 at once

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:23 PM, Matt Liotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> set boardConfig Buzzer 1
>
> -Matt
>
> On Jul 23, 2008, at 4:14 PM, John McDowell wrote:
>
> > yeah, i tried it to...no workie
> >
> > I look through some of the manuals and see
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Tried that, no workie
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: John McDowell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 3:35 PM
> >> To: WISPA General List 
> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Redline SUA buzzer command?
> >>
> >> i think its something like
> >>
> >> set Buzzer 1
> >>
> >>
> >> Do you have any manuals?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> What is it?
> >>>
> >>> How do I activate the buzzer?
> >>>
> >>> Gino A. Villarini
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Redline SUA buzzer command?

[Matt Liotta]

set boardConfig Buzzer 1

-Matt

On Jul 23, 2008, at 4:14 PM, John McDowell wrote:

> yeah, i tried it to...no workie
>
> I look through some of the manuals and see
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> wrote:
>
>> Tried that, no workie
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: John McDowell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 3:35 PM
>> To: WISPA General List 
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Redline SUA buzzer command?
>>
>> i think its something like
>>
>> set Buzzer 1
>>
>>
>> Do you have any manuals?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> What is it?
>>>
>>> How do I activate the buzzer?
>>>
>>> Gino A. Villarini
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>> tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
>>>
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>>
>> --
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>> Boonlink Communications
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Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Redline SUA buzzer command?

[John McDowell]

set boardConfig Buzzer 1

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Tried that, no workie
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John McDowell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 3:35 PM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Redline SUA buzzer command?
>
> i think its something like
>
> set Buzzer 1
>
>
> Do you have any manuals?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > What is it?
> >
> > How do I activate the buzzer?
> >
> > Gino A. Villarini
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> > tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
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Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Redline SUA buzzer command?

[Eric Muehleisen]

ON: "set boardConfig Buzzer 1"
OFF: "set boardConfig Buzzer 0"

They are not very accurate. I would still recommend that you have 
someone on the remote end giving you a verbal.

-Eric

John McDowell wrote:
> yeah, i tried it to...no workie
>
> I look through some of the manuals and see
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>> Tried that, no workie
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>>
>> i think its something like
>>
>> set Buzzer 1
>>
>>
>> Do you have any manuals?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>> 
>>> What is it?
>>>
>>> How do I activate the buzzer?
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[WISPA] PowerDsine POE injectors

[John McDowell]

Anybody need some? I'm trying to get rid of them and buy something with
built in surge protection.

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Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Redline SUA buzzer command?

[John McDowell]

yeah, i tried it to...no workie

I look through some of the manuals and see



On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Tried that, no workie
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Redline SUA buzzer command?
>
> i think its something like
>
> set Buzzer 1
>
>
> Do you have any manuals?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Redline SUA buzzer command?

[Gino Villarini]

Tried that, no workie

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 3:35 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Redline SUA buzzer command?

i think its something like

set Buzzer 1


Do you have any manuals?



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Re: [WISPA] PacWireless POE

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awesome, thanks

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Jim Patient <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> We use the 48, 24, and 18v and they have worked great for us. They have
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Re: [WISPA] PacWireless POE

[Jim Patient]

We use the 48, 24, and 18v and they have worked great for us. They have 
surge protection. Just be sure the ground in the 110 plug is actually 
grounded.

Jim

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Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Redline SUA buzzer command?

[John McDowell]

i think its something like

set Buzzer 1


Do you have any manuals?



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[WISPA] 3.65 Redline SUA buzzer command?

[Gino Villarini]

What is it?

How do I activate the buzzer?

Gino A. Villarini
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[WISPA] PacWireless POE

[John McDowell]

Has anyone used the PacWireless 48v POE injectors? I hear they also provide
surge protection?

The good the bad, the ugly?

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Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

[David E. Smith]

Jack Unger wrote:
> Once I have average CPE per WISP I can scale a percentage of those CPE 
> up to account for the total number of end-users taking into account some 
> CPE serve households, some serve businesses, some serve MDUs, etc. But I 
> have to start somewhere and that somewhere is average number of CPEs per 
> WISP. The end number of end-users will still be an estimate but at least 
> it will be an "educated" estimate.

Something like 85% of the American population believes they're "middle 
class," regardless of how much money they're bringing in. I suspect this 
will be similarly skewed - I know how big my business is, and I think 
we're a fairly "average" WISP, so I'll guess that most WISPs are similar 
to the one that signs my paychecks.

Anyway, shouldn't the FCC already have this sort of data? At least for 
WISPs that file Form 477 like they're supposed to, they can just add up 
the fixed-wireless numbers, divide by the number of WISPs that filed, 
and call it a day. Intuitively, I suspect the ones that don't file are 
the smaller ones that don't even know they're supposed to, so unless 
there are a LOT of those it won't skew the average too much.

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Re: [WISPA] OFFLIST: Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

[reader]

 :: laugh ::

Jack, it happens even in the best of regulated families :)







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Subject: [WISPA] OFFLIST: Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?


> Yep - I'm keeping it in mind.
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> Tom DeReggi wrote:




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Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

[reader]

Jack, how are we supposed to know?

The only way to find anything approaching an average is to get those 500 
responses and average them.

And t hen you still gotta define what a WISP is.   Is it the guy who covers 
an area the size of two city blocks and has backhauled in DSL from 3 miles 
away?Is it only the person who has hired help?"You're not a real 
WISP until you're large enough to have employees".Huh, that seems self 
defeating..  But anyway,  averaging our opinion of what is average...In 
my opinion there is no "average" that represents what a WISP is.  They range 
from that guy with his 4 neighbors to people who cover 10 thousand square 
miles, and both are exceptional, rather than the norm.   But yet to add them 
together and average that...

I just can't seem to form an opinion of what "average" should be.

And I'm not trying to argue with you... I'm just wondering, even if we could 
somehow tabulate all this with actual counts, would averaging give us any 
useful data...  If I were to offer a response, i'd say that WISP's average 
between 50 and 500 cpe.   And that still seems indefensible, really, as a 
number, even when given in a range...   It's just a WAG...









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Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 7:48 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?


> Guys and Gals,
>
> To help prepare for a planned FCC trip, I would appreciate your input on
> the following question.
>
> "In your opinion, what is the average number of CPEs deployed per
> independent WISP?"
>
> I'm not looking for the number of CPEs that YOU have deployed unless you
> believe that your number is exactly the average of all independent
> WISPs. I'm looking for the number that you believe the "average"
> independent WISP has deployed. By "independent WISP" I'm not referring
> to large national carriers, I'm referring to the "typical" type of WISP
> operation that you are familiar with.
>
> I figure if I can get 30 responses then I'll have good data. I don't
> want to "flood" the lists with 500 responses so after about 25 or 30
> replies, I should have all the data I need. I guess what I'm saying is
> that the "time to live" for this thread may be as short as 8 hours.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Respectfully,
>
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>
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Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

[Jack Unger]

Once I have average CPE per WISP I can scale a percentage of those CPE 
up to account for the total number of end-users taking into account some 
CPE serve households, some serve businesses, some serve MDUs, etc. But I 
have to start somewhere and that somewhere is average number of CPEs per 
WISP. The end number of end-users will still be an estimate but at least 
it will be an "educated" estimate.

Gino Villarini wrote:
> Good point, maybe circuits per WISP? 
>
>
> Gino A. Villarini
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:44 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?
>
> just remember cpe count is not a reflection of customers served, unless
> talking about residential single family homes.
> Enabling business activity and commerce is just as valuable as getting
> residents served.
>
> I average 5 businesses per CPE currently, and have the ability to serve
> an average of 40 businesses per CPE.
> And average the abilty to serve 300 residents per CPE to residentail
> MTU.
>
> Keep that in mind, when talking CPE.
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "3-dB Networks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 10:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?
>
>
>   
>> Jack,
>>
>> I would guess the average WISP is 1000-2000 subscribers strong.  Mesa
>> Networks was at 7300, but I know that is way above average.
>>
>> Daniel White
>> 3-dB Networks
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On
>   
>> Behalf Of Jack Unger
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:49 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List; Motorola Canopy User Group
>> Subject: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?
>>
>> Guys and Gals,
>>
>> To help prepare for a planned FCC trip, I would appreciate your input
>> 
> on
>   
>> the following question.
>>
>> "In your opinion, what is the average number of CPEs deployed per
>> independent WISP?"
>>
>> I'm not looking for the number of CPEs that YOU have deployed unless
>> 
> you
>   
>> believe that your number is exactly the average of all independent
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>> 
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>> want to "flood" the lists with 500 responses so after about 25 or 30
>> replies, I should have all the data I need. I guess what I'm saying is
>> that the "time to live" for this thread may be as short as 8 hours.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your help.
>>
>> Respectfully,
>>
>> jack (WISPA FCC Committee Chair)
>>
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[WISPA] OFFLIST: Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

[Jack Unger]

Yep - I'm keeping it in mind.

Tom DeReggi wrote:
> just remember cpe count is not a reflection of customers served, unless 
> talking about residential single family homes.
> Enabling business activity and commerce is just as valuable as getting 
> residents served.
>
> I average 5 businesses per CPE currently, and have the ability to serve an 
> average of 40 businesses per CPE.
> And average the abilty to serve 300 residents per CPE to residentail MTU.
>
> Keep that in mind, when talking CPE.
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "3-dB Networks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'WISPA General List'" 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 10:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?
>
>
>   
>> Jack,
>>
>> I would guess the average WISP is 1000-2000 subscribers strong.  Mesa
>> Networks was at 7300, but I know that is way above average.
>>
>> Daniel White
>> 3-dB Networks
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of Jack Unger
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:49 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List; Motorola Canopy User Group
>> Subject: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?
>>
>> Guys and Gals,
>>
>> To help prepare for a planned FCC trip, I would appreciate your input on
>> the following question.
>>
>> "In your opinion, what is the average number of CPEs deployed per
>> independent WISP?"
>>
>> I'm not looking for the number of CPEs that YOU have deployed unless you
>> believe that your number is exactly the average of all independent
>> WISPs. I'm looking for the number that you believe the "average"
>> independent WISP has deployed. By "independent WISP" I'm not referring
>> to large national carriers, I'm referring to the "typical" type of WISP
>> operation that you are familiar with.
>>
>> I figure if I can get 30 responses then I'll have good data. I don't
>> want to "flood" the lists with 500 responses so after about 25 or 30
>> replies, I should have all the data I need. I guess what I'm saying is
>> that the "time to live" for this thread may be as short as 8 hours.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your help.
>>
>> Respectfully,
>>
>> jack (WISPA FCC Committee Chair)
>>
>> -- 
>> Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc.
>> Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993
>> Cisco Press Author - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs"
>> Vendor-Neutral Wireless Design-Training-Troubleshooting-Consulting
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[WISPA] Edge Router or L3 Switch?

[Gino Villarini]

Hey, looking for some input here..

We have a single 100 Mbps Ethe Uplint to the net, with another one
turning on in some weeks.  Currently we have a Cisco 7240 handling the
single Eth Circuit, but we need to upgrade to a beffeier unit.

Would it make sense to put a Cisco L3 Switch instead of a Router?  The
unit would only be doing BGP for the uplinks, then all traffic go to our
Mikrotik distribution unit.

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Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

[Gino Villarini]

Good point, maybe circuits per WISP? 


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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom DeReggi
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:44 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

just remember cpe count is not a reflection of customers served, unless
talking about residential single family homes.
Enabling business activity and commerce is just as valuable as getting
residents served.

I average 5 businesses per CPE currently, and have the ability to serve
an average of 40 businesses per CPE.
And average the abilty to serve 300 residents per CPE to residentail
MTU.

Keep that in mind, when talking CPE.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message -
From: "3-dB Networks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?


> Jack,
>
> I would guess the average WISP is 1000-2000 subscribers strong.  Mesa
> Networks was at 7300, but I know that is way above average.
>
> Daniel White
> 3-dB Networks
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On
> Behalf Of Jack Unger
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:49 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List; Motorola Canopy User Group
> Subject: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?
>
> Guys and Gals,
>
> To help prepare for a planned FCC trip, I would appreciate your input
on
> the following question.
>
> "In your opinion, what is the average number of CPEs deployed per
> independent WISP?"
>
> I'm not looking for the number of CPEs that YOU have deployed unless
you
> believe that your number is exactly the average of all independent
> WISPs. I'm looking for the number that you believe the "average"
> independent WISP has deployed. By "independent WISP" I'm not referring
> to large national carriers, I'm referring to the "typical" type of
WISP
> operation that you are familiar with.
>
> I figure if I can get 30 responses then I'll have good data. I don't
> want to "flood" the lists with 500 responses so after about 25 or 30
> replies, I should have all the data I need. I guess what I'm saying is
> that the "time to live" for this thread may be as short as 8 hours.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> jack (WISPA FCC Committee Chair)
>
> -- 
> Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc.
> Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993
> Cisco Press Author - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs"
> Vendor-Neutral Wireless Design-Training-Troubleshooting-Consulting
> FCC License # PG-12-25133 Profile

> Phone 818-227-4220  Email <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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[WISPA] Need a Karlnet base station license

[David Hulsebus]

We had a bad storm that killed my last spare Karlnet base station this 
week and I have about 35 client systems I don't want to change out yet.
My distributor said Proxim quit selling the license keys this year. The 
last board I have is loaded with SG4200 software and I wouldn't mind 
keeping it as I have a site running a PtP still using a pair of these.
Does anyone have either a KN105 /205 board with SG4400 software? At the 
very least a SG4400 key.

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Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

[Tom DeReggi]

just remember cpe count is not a reflection of customers served, unless 
talking about residential single family homes.
Enabling business activity and commerce is just as valuable as getting 
residents served.

I average 5 businesses per CPE currently, and have the ability to serve an 
average of 40 businesses per CPE.
And average the abilty to serve 300 residents per CPE to residentail MTU.

Keep that in mind, when talking CPE.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: "3-dB Networks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?


> Jack,
>
> I would guess the average WISP is 1000-2000 subscribers strong.  Mesa
> Networks was at 7300, but I know that is way above average.
>
> Daniel White
> 3-dB Networks
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Jack Unger
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:49 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List; Motorola Canopy User Group
> Subject: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?
>
> Guys and Gals,
>
> To help prepare for a planned FCC trip, I would appreciate your input on
> the following question.
>
> "In your opinion, what is the average number of CPEs deployed per
> independent WISP?"
>
> I'm not looking for the number of CPEs that YOU have deployed unless you
> believe that your number is exactly the average of all independent
> WISPs. I'm looking for the number that you believe the "average"
> independent WISP has deployed. By "independent WISP" I'm not referring
> to large national carriers, I'm referring to the "typical" type of WISP
> operation that you are familiar with.
>
> I figure if I can get 30 responses then I'll have good data. I don't
> want to "flood" the lists with 500 responses so after about 25 or 30
> replies, I should have all the data I need. I guess what I'm saying is
> that the "time to live" for this thread may be as short as 8 hours.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> jack (WISPA FCC Committee Chair)
>
> -- 
> Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc.
> Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993
> Cisco Press Author - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs"
> Vendor-Neutral Wireless Design-Training-Troubleshooting-Consulting
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Re: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?

[Mike Hammett]

I'd say the average WISP is close to 300 - 400.


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From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 9:48 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Input Needed - Average number of CPE per WISP ?


> Guys and Gals,
>
> To help prepare for a planned FCC trip, I would appreciate your input on
> the following question.
>
> "In your opinion, what is the average number of CPEs deployed per
> independent WISP?"
>
> I'm not looking for the number of CPEs that YOU have deployed unless you
> believe that your number is exactly the average of all independent
> WISPs. I'm looking for the number that you believe the "average"
> independent WISP has deployed. By "independent WISP" I'm not referring
> to large national carriers, I'm referring to the "typical" type of WISP
> operation that you are familiar with.
>
> I figure if I can get 30 responses then I'll have good data. I don't
> want to "flood" the lists with 500 responses so after about 25 or 30
> replies, I should have all the data I need. I guess what I'm saying is
> that the "time to live" for this thread may be as short as 8 hours.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> jack (WISPA FCC Committee Chair)
>
> -- 
> Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc.
> Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993
> Cisco Press Author - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs"
> Vendor-Neutral Wireless Design-Training-Troubleshooting-Consulting
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Re: [WISPA] NS1 -> KML conversion

[Ryan Langseth]

http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/map?form=wifi

Ryan
On Jul 23, 2008, at 12:34 AM, Rogelio wrote:

> I'm looking for scripts (perl, python, etc) that turn Netstumber (or
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