[WISPA] 3.65

2008-11-03 Thread Travis Johnson
Matt, I agree. We are looking at the same thing... putting up some 3.65ghz AP's on our "bigger" towers and moving heavy usage customers to that. However, until base stations are less than $8k, the WiMax people can keep spending money on advertising, trade-shows, etc. telling us how great they

Re: [WISPA] 3.65

2008-11-03 Thread Mike Hammett
There are companies out there working on non-802.11 3.65 GHz systems that provide the same spectral efficiency as WiMAX, but without the WiMAX hype price tag. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008

[WISPA] p2p blocking, throttling, mikrotik

2008-11-03 Thread RC
When I try and block ptp traffic through my mikrotik router customers call in telling us some web pages load some don't. Myspace, yahoo, etc. Anyone know how to block or throttle p2p without affecting regular web traffic?

Re: [WISPA] 3.65

2008-11-03 Thread Travis Johnson
That would be great... but is there a time frame? Travis Microserv Mike Hammett wrote: There are companies out there working on non-802.11 3.65 GHz systems that provide the same spectral efficiency as WiMAX, but without the WiMAX hype price tag. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent

[WISPA] White Spaces Debate

2008-11-03 Thread Rick Harnish
Victoria Proffer was quoted in the St. Louis Dispatch yesterday in an article about the current White Spaces Debate: Victoria Proffer, president of St. Louis Broadband, a fixed wireless Internet provider in Maryland Heights agrees - up to a point. She supports the position of the Wireless

Re: [WISPA] 3.65

2008-11-03 Thread Mike Hammett
Last I knew, it was by year's end or maybe 1Q2009. They've already released some of the products they've been talking to me about. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] 2nd 3rd Ex Parte Letters Submitted

2008-11-03 Thread Jack Unger
Thank you for the postings Rick. Let me just add that without Steve Coran's dedication to our cause and his willingness to work seemingly endless hours we would not be where we are today - we would not even be close. Steve's ability to give 120% (or more) far exceeded my expectations. There

Re: [WISPA] 3.65

2008-11-03 Thread Gino Villarini
There are some below $5k BSU solutions on the market Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday,

[WISPA] 2nd 3rd Ex Parte Letters Submitted

2008-11-03 Thread Rick Harnish
Thanks to Jack Unger and Steve Coran who sent two more Ex Parte Letters to the FCC last week. They are both posted on the WISPA website. 2 http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=306 nd Ex Parte Letter 3 http://www.wispa.org/?page_id=310 rd Ex Parte Letter Respectfully, Rick Harnish General

Re: [WISPA] 3.65

2008-11-03 Thread Matt Liotta
There is already an SR3 card. I would HIGHLY suggest you test it throughly before deploying. -Matt On Nov 3, 2008, at 10:38 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: That would be great... but is there a time frame? Travis Microserv Mike Hammett wrote: There are companies out there working on

Re: [WISPA] p2p blocking, throttling, mikrotik

2008-11-03 Thread Scott Reed
Did you use the built-in P2P filtering, or something else? RC wrote: When I try and block ptp traffic through my mikrotik router customers call in telling us some web pages load some don't. Myspace, yahoo, etc. Anyone know how to block or throttle p2p without affecting regular web traffic?

Re: [WISPA] MikroTik simple queues

2008-11-03 Thread Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net
Change the burst time to 60s/60s and you will be CLOSE to 30 second burst. -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* 314-735-0270 http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ */ Link

Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers

2008-11-03 Thread 3-dB Networks
Mesa Networks did. we had our own customer database called MOMS. When a customer called in for support all we had to do was click a button, and 90% of the time it would get us right to the customers SM. Sometimes the tool timed out. but it is very possible to write something should you want to.

Re: [WISPA] 3.65

2008-11-03 Thread Mike Hammett
oh, and they support larger channels, so you can actually provide usable bandwidth to your customers. -- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November

Re: [WISPA] 3.65

2008-11-03 Thread Gino Villarini
Tranzeo Airspan Vecima All 802.16d Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 12:15 PM To:

[WISPA] FW: Aaronia / New SPECTRAN V4

2008-11-03 Thread Jerry Richardson
FYI __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications From: Aaronia AG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 6:48 AM To: Jerry Richardson Subject: Aaronia / New SPECTRAN V4 Dear Mr/Ms Richardson,

Re: [WISPA] 3.65

2008-11-03 Thread Travis Johnson
Tranzeo and Aperto are operating in a partnership. Their base station was around $8k when I checked about 30 days ago. Travis Gino Villarini wrote: Tranzeo Airspan Vecima All 802.16d Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax

Re: [WISPA] 3.65

2008-11-03 Thread Matt Liotta
We did test them. I would rather not share bad experiences on a public list. See you at ISPCON. -Matt On Nov 3, 2008, at 11:14 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: Matt, What does that mean? Have you tested it? Was it good or bad? Travis Microserv Matt Liotta wrote: There is already an SR3

Re: [WISPA] heavy usage customers

2008-11-03 Thread Randy Cosby
Rick, Just curious, where is this ISP you took over? Randy RickG wrote: Wow, with all that bandwidth, I'm surprised you dont offer higher speeds. Technically speaking, the download upload price is the same. From a cost standpoint, I allocate the download upload separately because I am

Re: [WISPA] 3.65

2008-11-03 Thread Jerry Richardson
I would be interested in your experience. __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 8:52 AM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] 3.65

2008-11-03 Thread Brad Belton
grin.I think Matt just did. Brad From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 LOL Matt Liotta wrote: We did test them. I would rather not share bad

[WISPA] T-Mobile 3G @ 1700 MHz

2008-11-03 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
At one of my sites I am colocated with T-Mobile and Sprint cellular equipment. T-Mobile has recently replaced all of their antennas and added new equipment, presumably to prepare for the 3G rollout. They have just activated their equipment in the past few weeks, and I've noticed that the noise

Re: [WISPA] p2p blocking, throttling, mikrotik

2008-11-03 Thread eje
Don't block p2p unless you do disclose it up front and straight out to your customers. That what was Comcast got in big problems with FCC a year ago because they throttled it to point of unusable and they got slapped on the fingers big time. But if you do and you are masquerading you traffic

Re: [WISPA] p2p blocking, throttling, mikrotik

2008-11-03 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Problem is that there is no way to do that if they use the encryption offered by most of the ptp clients. Jeff -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 1:36 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re:

Re: [WISPA] 3.65

2008-11-03 Thread Travis Johnson
Like? Gino Villarini wrote: There are some below $5k BSU solutions on the market Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: [WISPA] 3.65

2008-11-03 Thread Travis Johnson
LOL Matt Liotta wrote: We did test them. I would rather not share bad experiences on a public list. See you at ISPCON. -Matt On Nov 3, 2008, at 11:14 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: Matt, What does that mean? Have you tested it? Was it good or bad? Travis Microserv Matt Liotta

Re: [WISPA] 3.65

2008-11-03 Thread Jeff Holdenrid
Redline, APerto, and Vecima are offering a full solution with base station and CPE (built by Tranzeo) Tranzeo has the Pico solution that is 100% Tranzeo AP and CPE. The PICO is lower cost and is limited to a low number of CPE's to AP's. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WISPA] 3.65

2008-11-03 Thread Randy Cosby
Correct, but Tranzeo does not have a 3.65 (USA) Pico, just a 5.8 Pico for the USA. They do have 3.5 (non-USA) pico as well. Jeff Holdenrid wrote: Redline, APerto, and Vecima are offering a full solution with base station and CPE (built by Tranzeo) Tranzeo has the Pico solution that is

Re: [WISPA] 3.65

2008-11-03 Thread Jeff Holdenrid
That is correct -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 2:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 Correct, but Tranzeo does not have a 3.65 (USA) Pico, just a 5.8 Pico for the USA. They

Re: [WISPA] 3.65

2008-11-03 Thread Jeff Booher
Travis, thats list pricing for a single base station. Airspan is around the same price as well. Logic proceeds that they are much less in QTY. Jeff Booher Director of Sales, North America www.apertonet.com http://www.apertonet.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/7: 206-455-4950

Re: [WISPA] 3.65

2008-11-03 Thread Jeff Booher
All, For further clarification- our solution has different hardware and software that is manufactured for us by tranzeo. It is not the same solution they sell as their own. Jeff Booher Director of Sales, North America www.apertonet.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/7: 206-455-4950

Re: [WISPA] 3.65

2008-11-03 Thread Travis Johnson
I understand that... but honestly I can only see rolling out 3 or 4 base stations in the next 12-18 months. Yet I imagine buying 500-600 CPE in that same time period. So does the price really go from $8k to less than $5k if I buy 3 units? ;) Travis Microserv Jeff Booher wrote: Travis,