Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Bullet
And their distributors are? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Bullet Nope they have not shipped the first batch out yet expected to ship next week to their distributors. /Eje --Original Message-- From: Brian Rohrbacher Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List ReplyTo: WISPA General List Sent: Nov 8, 2008 07:47 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Bullet I didn't know they had shipped any RickG wrote: Anyone using the Ubiquity Bullet? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Stand offs for a water tower question...
I have two water towers that will need 4 to 5 antenna mounts. The water towers are both the same. They are approximately 120' with a climbing tube and a bulb at the top. There are no side rails. The hatch opens to the bulb. How do you attach antennas??? Is welding standoffs the best practice? Any ideas on basic costs? Here is a pic of one of the towers: http://stlbroadband.com/h20.html Also this was a method mentioned on another thread: http://www.metal-cable.com/page13.html These guys are nice but $3k apiece. I am thinking that if you went that route that you could get three for each tower and ad a mounting pipe between each creating a triangle and mount to that. I am not sure how long they would maintain their power for this application, but if you had to move your network these come along versus a welded situation. Thanks, Victoria WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Stand offs for a water tower question...
Magnets don't lose their magnetism unless heated to very high temperatures. In warm temperatures (achievable at the top of a water tower) it may lose a little bit, but it returns to normal once it is cooled. On 11/8/08, St. Louis Broadband [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have two water towers that will need 4 to 5 antenna mounts. The water towers are both the same. They are approximately 120' with a climbing tube and a bulb at the top. There are no side rails. The hatch opens to the bulb. How do you attach antennas??? Is welding standoffs the best practice? Any ideas on basic costs? Here is a pic of one of the towers: http://stlbroadband.com/h20.html Also this was a method mentioned on another thread: http://www.metal-cable.com/page13.html These guys are nice but $3k apiece. I am thinking that if you went that route that you could get three for each tower and ad a mounting pipe between each creating a triangle and mount to that. I am not sure how long they would maintain their power for this application, but if you had to move your network these come along versus a welded situation. Thanks, Victoria WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Sent from my mobile device Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 1.9ghz?
I use dect phones across my voip. I have two voips, VOX and my own * rolled system with voipjet as the upstream and I have no problems with quality. I've got those Panasonic ones. Maybe thats the difference. George jp wrote: One of the guys at work got one, and it plain out sucked for VOIP use, and was slightly lower quality than the normal cordless junk for normal use. Basically, too many digital conversions. Goes from analog in the handset to G726 32kbps through the air, back to analog, G729 over the Internet to the SIP gateway, 64k digital through the PSTN, and analog or possibly any variation of digitals depending on who you call (cellular, pots, voip, etc..) I use a $20 2.4 or 5.8ghz walmart low-tech special and have the best sound quality short of using a corded phone. I prefer corded handset. On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 04:29:12PM -0700, Chuck McCown wrote: Yep, pretty cool huh? We recommend only DECT 6.0 and that is the only thing we stock in our store. - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 4:10 PM Subject: [WISPA] 1.9ghz? Hi, I wasn't aware you could get a cordless phone that operates in 1.9ghz??? Uniden DECT2080-2 shows it operates in the interference free cordless frequency. Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Stand offs for a water tower question...
V- CSW is the way to go. In my book magnets on an elevated structure is just a bad idea. I know we have expelled a ton of bandwidth in the past on this subject but I would look at how it would reflect in court if I had an issue. I would not put anything on a tank I could not repel (descend) from. Do it and do it right. Don't take chances and don't reinvent the wheel. You can purchase heavy duty tank tripods from Site Pro 1 (www.sitepro1.com) and get someone to install them for ya. I am sure the water authority's engineering staff would also approve the CSW mwthod faster. Good luck Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: St. Louis Broadband [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 11:37:39 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Stand offs for a water tower question... Are the magnets the best (most cost effective) way of completing this type of install? Or is capacitive discharge stud welding going to be the better route? On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Do a little reading on rare earth magnets (the strongest magnet there is). You might be able to do some calculations and figure out what you would to build your own. Here are a couple sites I just googled. I think all you need to do is figure out how much pull force you need to offset the wind load. http://www.kjmagnetics.com/neomaginfo.asp http://www.indigo.com/magnets/rare-earth-magnets.html Brian St. Louis Broadband wrote: I have two water towers that will need 4 to 5 antenna mounts. The water towers are both the same. They are approximately 120' with a climbing tube and a bulb at the top. There are no side rails. The hatch opens to the bulb. How do you attach antennas??? Is welding standoffs the best practice? Any ideas on basic costs? Here is a pic of one of the towers: http://stlbroadband.com/h20.html Also this was a method mentioned on another thread: http://www.metal-cable.com/page13.html These guys are nice but $3k apiece. I am thinking that if you went that route that you could get three for each tower and ad a mounting pipe between each creating a triangle and mount to that. I am not sure how long they would maintain their power for this application, but if you had to move your network these come along versus a welded situation. Thanks, Victoria WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Stand offs for a water tower question...
Bob, Was hoping you would pipe in. Well there you have it! This is the way that I will go. Do you have a ball park figure of what this might cost? Here is a pic of the tower: www.stlbroadband.com/h2o.html Thanks! On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 12:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: V- CSW is the way to go. In my book magnets on an elevated structure is just a bad idea. I know we have expelled a ton of bandwidth in the past on this subject but I would look at how it would reflect in court if I had an issue. I would not put anything on a tank I could not repel (descend) from. Do it and do it right. Don't take chances and don't reinvent the wheel. You can purchase heavy duty tank tripods from Site Pro 1 (www.sitepro1.com) and get someone to install them for ya. I am sure the water authority's engineering staff would also approve the CSW mwthod faster. Good luck Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: St. Louis Broadband [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 11:37:39 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Stand offs for a water tower question... Are the magnets the best (most cost effective) way of completing this type of install? Or is capacitive discharge stud welding going to be the better route? On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Brian Rohrbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Do a little reading on rare earth magnets (the strongest magnet there is). You might be able to do some calculations and figure out what you would to build your own. Here are a couple sites I just googled. I think all you need to do is figure out how much pull force you need to offset the wind load. http://www.kjmagnetics.com/neomaginfo.asp http://www.indigo.com/magnets/rare-earth-magnets.html Brian St. Louis Broadband wrote: I have two water towers that will need 4 to 5 antenna mounts. The water towers are both the same. They are approximately 120' with a climbing tube and a bulb at the top. There are no side rails. The hatch opens to the bulb. How do you attach antennas??? Is welding standoffs the best practice? Any ideas on basic costs? Here is a pic of one of the towers: http://stlbroadband.com/h20.html Also this was a method mentioned on another thread: http://www.metal-cable.com/page13.html These guys are nice but $3k apiece. I am thinking that if you went that route that you could get three for each tower and ad a mounting pipe between each creating a triangle and mount to that. I am not sure how long they would maintain their power for this application, but if you had to move your network these come along versus a welded situation. Thanks, Victoria WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] cancelled customer email
Most ISP's I know of charge $5 per account per month, so that seems to be an accepted price. John Josh Luthman wrote: Personally without an internet package I'd do 10 or 15 On 11/6/08, Jerry Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $5/month per address __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3 Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 7:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] cancelled customer email I think we keep it alive for $5/month. - Original Message - From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 8:12 PM Subject: [WISPA] cancelled customer email OK guys. I've never had this happen before so I'm not usre what to do. I've got a long time customer that has fallen for the ATT DSL giveaway package and is switching. He asked if he could pay a small monthly rate to keep his email addresses for a few months until he gets the word out. My first reaction is to tell him to take a flying leap. After some thought, I want to be reasonable. I've thought about telling him he can do so with a low end plan. We dont sell email accounts. How do you handle this? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Stand offs for a water tower question...
I remember a while back somebody showed a very nice design of a collar that went around the hatch neck. -RickG On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 12:01 PM, St. Louis Broadband [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have two water towers that will need 4 to 5 antenna mounts. The water towers are both the same. They are approximately 120' with a climbing tube and a bulb at the top. There are no side rails. The hatch opens to the bulb. How do you attach antennas??? Is welding standoffs the best practice? Any ideas on basic costs? Here is a pic of one of the towers: http://stlbroadband.com/h20.html Also this was a method mentioned on another thread: http://www.metal-cable.com/page13.html These guys are nice but $3k apiece. I am thinking that if you went that route that you could get three for each tower and ad a mounting pipe between each creating a triangle and mount to that. I am not sure how long they would maintain their power for this application, but if you had to move your network these come along versus a welded situation. Thanks, Victoria WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/