Re: [WISPA] Ubiquity Bullet

2008-11-08 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
And their distributors are?
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 Nope they have not shipped the first batch out yet expected to ship next 
 week to their distributors.

 /Eje
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 I didn't know they had shipped any

 RickG wrote:
 Anyone using the Ubiquity Bullet?
 -RickG


 
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[WISPA] Stand offs for a water tower question...

2008-11-08 Thread St. Louis Broadband
I have two water towers that will need 4 to 5 antenna mounts. The water
towers are both the same. They are approximately 120' with a climbing tube
and a bulb at the top. There are no side rails. The hatch opens to the bulb.
How do you attach antennas??? Is welding standoffs the best practice?  Any
ideas on basic costs?

Here is a pic of one of the towers: http://stlbroadband.com/h20.html

Also this was a method mentioned on another thread:
http://www.metal-cable.com/page13.html
These guys are nice but $3k apiece.  I am thinking that if you went that
route that you could get three for each tower and ad a mounting pipe between
each creating a triangle and mount to that.  I am not sure how long they
would maintain their power for this application, but if you had to move your
network these come along versus a welded situation.

Thanks,
Victoria



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Re: [WISPA] Stand offs for a water tower question...

2008-11-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Magnets don't lose their magnetism unless heated to very high
temperatures.  In warm temperatures (achievable at the top of a water
tower) it may lose a little bit, but it returns to normal once it is
cooled.

On 11/8/08, St. Louis Broadband [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have two water towers that will need 4 to 5 antenna mounts. The water
 towers are both the same. They are approximately 120' with a climbing tube
 and a bulb at the top. There are no side rails. The hatch opens to the bulb.
 How do you attach antennas??? Is welding standoffs the best practice?  Any
 ideas on basic costs?

 Here is a pic of one of the towers: http://stlbroadband.com/h20.html

 Also this was a method mentioned on another thread:
 http://www.metal-cable.com/page13.html
 These guys are nice but $3k apiece.  I am thinking that if you went that
 route that you could get three for each tower and ad a mounting pipe between
 each creating a triangle and mount to that.  I am not sure how long they
 would maintain their power for this application, but if you had to move your
 network these come along versus a welded situation.

 Thanks,
 Victoria


 
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Re: [WISPA] 1.9ghz?

2008-11-08 Thread George Rogato
I use dect phones across my voip. I have two voips, VOX and my own * 
rolled system with voipjet as the upstream and I have no problems with 
quality.

I've got those Panasonic ones. Maybe thats the difference.

George

jp wrote:
 One of the guys at work got one, and it plain out sucked for VOIP use, 
 and was slightly lower quality than the normal cordless junk for normal 
 use.
 
 Basically, too many digital conversions. Goes from analog in the handset 
 to G726 32kbps through the air, back to analog, G729 over the Internet 
 to the SIP gateway, 64k digital through the PSTN, and analog or possibly 
 any variation of digitals depending on who you call (cellular, pots, 
 voip, etc..) 
 
 I use a $20 2.4 or 5.8ghz walmart low-tech special and have the best 
 sound quality short of using a corded phone. I prefer corded handset.
 
 On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 04:29:12PM -0700, Chuck McCown wrote:
 Yep, pretty cool huh?
 We recommend only DECT 6.0 and that is the only thing we stock in our store.
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 Hi,

 I wasn't aware you could get a cordless phone that operates in 1.9ghz???

 Uniden DECT2080-2 shows it operates in the interference free cordless
 frequency.

 Travis
 Microserv


 
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Re: [WISPA] Stand offs for a water tower question...

2008-11-08 Thread lakeland
V-

CSW is the way to go.

 In my book magnets on an elevated structure is just a bad idea. I know we have 
expelled a ton of bandwidth in the past on this subject but I would look at how 
it would reflect in court if I had an issue. 

I would not put anything on a tank I could not repel (descend) from. Do it and 
do it right. Don't take chances and don't reinvent the wheel.

You can purchase heavy duty tank tripods from Site Pro 1 (www.sitepro1.com) and 
get someone to install them for ya.

I am sure the water authority's engineering staff would also approve the CSW 
mwthod faster.

Good luck

Bob

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From: St. Louis Broadband [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 11:37:39 
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Stand offs for a water tower question...


Are the magnets the best (most cost effective) way of completing this type
of install?  Or is capacitive discharge stud welding going to be the better
route?


On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Brian Rohrbacher
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Do a little reading on rare earth magnets (the strongest magnet there
 is).  You might be able to do some calculations and figure out what you
 would to build your own.
 Here are a couple sites I just googled.  I think all you need to do is
 figure out how much pull force you need to offset the wind load.

 http://www.kjmagnetics.com/neomaginfo.asp
 http://www.indigo.com/magnets/rare-earth-magnets.html

 Brian

 St. Louis Broadband wrote:
  I have two water towers that will need 4 to 5 antenna mounts. The water
  towers are both the same. They are approximately 120' with a climbing
 tube
  and a bulb at the top. There are no side rails. The hatch opens to the
 bulb.
  How do you attach antennas??? Is welding standoffs the best practice?
  Any
  ideas on basic costs?
 
  Here is a pic of one of the towers: http://stlbroadband.com/h20.html
 
  Also this was a method mentioned on another thread:
  http://www.metal-cable.com/page13.html
  These guys are nice but $3k apiece.  I am thinking that if you went that
  route that you could get three for each tower and ad a mounting pipe
 between
  each creating a triangle and mount to that.  I am not sure how long they
  would maintain their power for this application, but if you had to move
 your
  network these come along versus a welded situation.
 
  Thanks,
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Re: [WISPA] Stand offs for a water tower question...

2008-11-08 Thread St. Louis Broadband
Bob,

Was hoping you would pipe in.  Well there you have it!  This is the way that
I will go.
Do you have a ball park figure of what this might cost?

Here is a pic of the tower: www.stlbroadband.com/h2o.html

Thanks!


On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 12:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 V-

 CSW is the way to go.

  In my book magnets on an elevated structure is just a bad idea. I know we
 have expelled a ton of bandwidth in the past on this subject but I would
 look at how it would reflect in court if I had an issue.

 I would not put anything on a tank I could not repel (descend) from. Do it
 and do it right. Don't take chances and don't reinvent the wheel.

 You can purchase heavy duty tank tripods from Site Pro 1 (www.sitepro1.com)
 and get someone to install them for ya.

 I am sure the water authority's engineering staff would also approve the
 CSW mwthod faster.

 Good luck

 Bob

 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: St. Louis Broadband [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 11:37:39
 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Stand offs for a water tower question...


 Are the magnets the best (most cost effective) way of completing this type
 of install?  Or is capacitive discharge stud welding going to be the better
 route?


 On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Brian Rohrbacher
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

  Do a little reading on rare earth magnets (the strongest magnet there
  is).  You might be able to do some calculations and figure out what you
  would to build your own.
  Here are a couple sites I just googled.  I think all you need to do is
  figure out how much pull force you need to offset the wind load.
 
  http://www.kjmagnetics.com/neomaginfo.asp
  http://www.indigo.com/magnets/rare-earth-magnets.html
 
  Brian
 
  St. Louis Broadband wrote:
   I have two water towers that will need 4 to 5 antenna mounts. The water
   towers are both the same. They are approximately 120' with a climbing
  tube
   and a bulb at the top. There are no side rails. The hatch opens to the
  bulb.
   How do you attach antennas??? Is welding standoffs the best practice?
   Any
   ideas on basic costs?
  
   Here is a pic of one of the towers: http://stlbroadband.com/h20.html
  
   Also this was a method mentioned on another thread:
   http://www.metal-cable.com/page13.html
   These guys are nice but $3k apiece.  I am thinking that if you went
 that
   route that you could get three for each tower and ad a mounting pipe
  between
   each creating a triangle and mount to that.  I am not sure how long
 they
   would maintain their power for this application, but if you had to move
  your
   network these come along versus a welded situation.
  
   Thanks,
   Victoria
  
  
  
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] cancelled customer email

2008-11-08 Thread John Thomas
Most ISP's  I know of charge $5 per account per month, so that seems to 
be an accepted price.

John


Josh Luthman wrote:
 Personally without an internet package I'd do 10 or 15

 On 11/6/08, Jerry Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 $5/month per address




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 I think we keep it alive for $5/month.

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 OK guys. I've never had this happen before so I'm not usre what to do.
 I've got a long time customer that has fallen for the ATT DSL
 giveaway package and is switching. He asked if he could pay a small
 monthly rate to keep his email addresses for a few months until he
 gets the word out. My first reaction is to tell him to take a flying
 leap. After some thought, I want to be reasonable. I've thought about
 telling him he can do so with a low end plan. We dont sell email
 accounts. How do you handle this?
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Re: [WISPA] Stand offs for a water tower question...

2008-11-08 Thread RickG
I remember a while back somebody showed a very nice design of a collar
that went around the hatch neck.
-RickG

On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 12:01 PM, St. Louis Broadband
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have two water towers that will need 4 to 5 antenna mounts. The water
 towers are both the same. They are approximately 120' with a climbing tube
 and a bulb at the top. There are no side rails. The hatch opens to the bulb.
 How do you attach antennas??? Is welding standoffs the best practice?  Any
 ideas on basic costs?

 Here is a pic of one of the towers: http://stlbroadband.com/h20.html

 Also this was a method mentioned on another thread:
 http://www.metal-cable.com/page13.html
 These guys are nice but $3k apiece.  I am thinking that if you went that
 route that you could get three for each tower and ad a mounting pipe between
 each creating a triangle and mount to that.  I am not sure how long they
 would maintain their power for this application, but if you had to move your
 network these come along versus a welded situation.

 Thanks,
 Victoria


 
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