Leon Zetekoff wrote:
Is is just one channel or the entire band(s). What if you use 5 or 10
That's what I'm going to go for. I was just hoping for something else
to do in the interim, like tweaking RTS/CTS values or something.
As Jack said earlier there can be
Wind resistance should be fairly easy to deal with. Just more radios,
closer together, with smaller antennas :-).
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To: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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MT radios with the squelch function.
BIG antennas and JUST enough TX power to get your system 10 to 15 dB over
the noise levels.
Cross polarize as much as you can.
Move one end? Even if you have to make two or three hops, but pointing into
a new direction might help.
Out of all of
The major difference between the MediaPoint box and Netflix's is that
Blockbuster does progressive playback in comparison to Netflix's
streaming, meaning that the video quality is independent of you
With the things that are coming, I'm starting to wounder just how the
bandwidth/pricing model is going to have to change.
This is likely not a big deal for you urban guys, but out here in the
rural areas, bandwidth ain't cheap.
A T1, 1.54Mb/s, costs me $700/month.
On my fiber, 1Mb/s costs me
I've got the same issues here. I'm getting rid of my expensive T1's
and bringing in bandwidth from 30 miles away. If the usages keeps
growing, I'll employ one of the options you mention below.
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Blair Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
With the things that are
Do you think you could do the same thing from Chicago or Detroit? You
should be able to get something in the $30~50/Mb range, maybe better if
you can shoot off of a carrier hotel roof or something.
From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I have ~$75/meg via fiber in Troy, OH (north of Dayton which is quite
1100 Wayne St
Troy, OH 45373
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On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 10:19 PM,
1 meg is $200. How much is 5, 10, 50, 100? Depending on the provider you
could see a sharp drop in the pricing.
Either rates will have to go up, your customers will just be unhappy with
available options, or you'll have to go big. MANY industries have adopted the
catch phrase, Go big or go
I think it comes down to not allowing that 5% of customers that are
going to do the video streaming / movie watching / etc. over the
internet to use your network. There is another 95% of people that just
want to email and surf. Those are the customers you want. Send the
others to cable or your
I think dialup ISPs used to say that about anything other than email or HTML
only web browsing.
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From: Travis Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008
Instead of turning the customers down you could explain to them you're
losing money and up their rates. If they won't work with you then
explain you can't do business with them. You'll find people are more
willing to work with you then you might expect.
On 11/30/08, Travis Johnson [EMAIL
He is 20 miles from Kalamazoo and Kalamazoo is serviced by at least KDL, US
Signal, Level(3), Lightcore, and I believe GLC is there as well. I'm sure
there's more out there. Grand Rapids isn't far away either.
Charter is in his hometown (yes, they sell to WISPs, even will do fiber
I am certain you can do much better than that.
And you don't even have to be in Chicago or Detroit.
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth and costs...
There's certainly much cheaper bandwidth in those cities, but unless you're
1, maybe 2 fiber hops away and are buying 50 megs+, it isn't worth it. The
number of Wireless hops vary.
Once you hit say 100 megs or 150 megs, it's a different ball game.
Take GigE on fiber from them. Then use whatever microwave you can get to
haul it to wherever you need to go.
There is a huge price break when you go 100 mbps burstable on a GigE.
You can wholesale enough on your way out of town to pay for the whole thing.
But you must meet the tier 1/2 provider
Recently, I learned that American Fiber Systems has InterCity Fiber
Ring that connects Las Vegas, Reno/Carson City, Boise and Salt Lake on
a fully redundant OC-192 capacity backbone.
They aren't cheap on the low end at $2000/month for 5 meg burstable to
10, but I image
There are still some areas of this country that bandwidth is expensive
even in high quantities. I currently have three OC3 connections and my
cheapest provider is still over $30/Mbps because of the transport. I am
200 miles from any significant bandwidth (other than Qwest, which is
Also, I would like to point out, you are MUCH better to get smaller
connections from at least two separate providers... yes, it will cost
more, but even the big guys have outages. Case and point: two weeks ago
our Qwest OC3 was completely down. None of our customers even noticed,
We did try a wireless link to Chicago... If we could get space on Sears
tower, it might work as I have a location with 250ft elevation over
lake level on the lake shore. Distance is 94mi. Last time we looked,
it was not quite possible, but equipment has improved in the last few
years, so I'll
35m to Kalamazoo, 35m to Grand Rapids, 30m to Holland. My bandwidth
comes over fiber from Grand Rapids via Holland. Used to be T1's, but I
saw the $700 T1's coming when verzion got their ruling in Texas that
released them from wholesaling requirements. I had to defy my business
partner to put
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