Re: [WISPA] Do you provide backup services?

2008-12-07 Thread reader
Backup storage. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Do you provide backup services? Please

Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds

2008-12-07 Thread Austin Wright
That is a great point Tom, I definitely agree that there is a [huge] difference between a large wisp and a roll up. Don't get me wrong, Digis had plenty of rollin up goin for them; however, when I was an installer at Digis we installed over 900 fixed-point customers in one month (all on Canopy),

[WISPA] Still 65%

2008-12-07 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
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Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] 60% Canopy

2008-12-07 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
This is totally anonymous. http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=3CNTqbd_2fbD514WncbPQuWA_3d_3d It will be some time before I can update the results again. - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, December 06,

Re: [WISPA] Fw: [Motorola II] 60% Canopy

2008-12-07 Thread RickG
My Marketing Director at a previous ISP I ran used Survey Monkey back in '99. It was helpful for our customers. Seeing it used in this fashion as a pole amongst the peers has been enlightening. What would be even more helpful would be to have the results posted on a website and the survey repeated

[WISPA] Book1.xls

2008-12-07 Thread Chuck McCown
Got tired of adding it up each time. Book1.xls Description: MS-Excel spreadsheet WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

[WISPA] survey

2008-12-07 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Brand # Subs % By Subs Redline 286 0.56% Alvarion 938 1.83% Ubiquity 960 1.88% Canopy 32933 64.39% Other 4345 8.49% Trango 8217 16.06% MT 3471 6.79% Total 51150 100.00% Responses 47

Re: [WISPA] Book1.xls

2008-12-07 Thread Mac Dearman
Chuck, I think someone (read - as in very many) have stretched the truth with your survey. I could be wrong, (not the first time) but according to your poll the 43 WISPs have an average of 1153.418 subscribers each! It appears that 27 of the 43 WISPs used Canopy and those 27 ISPs count for

[WISPA] Breakdown by response

2008-12-07 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
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[WISPA] Breakdown by number of subs

2008-12-07 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
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[WISPA] canopy response detail

2008-12-07 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
1. 55 Sun, 12/7/08 3:08 PM 2. 1550 Sun, 12/7/08 1:36 PM 3. 150 Sun, 12/7/08 12:31 PM 4. 250 Sun, 12/7/08 10:22 AM 5. 1800 Sun, 12/7/08 8:55 AM 6. 850 Sun, 12/7/08 8:09 AM 7. 8 Sun, 12/7/08 7:26 AM 8. 370 Sat, 12/6/08 8:46 PM 9. 7200 Sat,

Re: [WISPA] Book1.xls

2008-12-07 Thread Brian Webster
Mac, Since this industry has really started to mature, I would not be surprised if this data is pretty close to the industry as a whole. While the makeup of the WISPA member WISP's may not all be big like this, there are certainly plenty of them that aren't members. Here is a link to a

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Book1.xls

2008-12-07 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Some use multiple technologies mixed. 34 use canopy. I have sent the detail. Looks believable to me. I guess the is the problem, I state a metric, like Mot reports having half the market. So someone says they are full of crap and that nobody can believe something like that. (Part of being

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Book1.xls

2008-12-07 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
It started on the Motorola mailing list? Really? News to me. I thought it was started at [EMAIL PROTECTED] So where is the Alvarion and Trango mailing list? Perhaps you should start one there. Or invite them to participate? But I restate my earlier prognostication, human nature requires you to

[WISPA] Responses URL

2008-12-07 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Not totally sure if you-all can access this URL. It is where the survey responses are. When I click it it goes right to it. But it may have cached my IP or I might have a cookie so it isn't requiring a username or password. Would someone please check this to see if the results are open to all?

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Responses URL

2008-12-07 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
OK, I just reset the username and password to wispa for both. - Original Message - From: Doug Clark To: Motorola Canopy User Group Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [Motorola II] Responses URL needs a username and pass ---Original

Re: [WISPA] Book1.xls

2008-12-07 Thread 3-dB Networks
I have always assumed that Part-15 or WISPA is a small microcosm of the industry as a whole. Most of our customers are not on either list... Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Sunday,

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Book1.xls

2008-12-07 Thread Eric Muehleisen
Nex-Tech participated in this poll and we are around 4000 subs. 90% Canopy shop. -Eric Chuck McCown - 3 wrote: How far do you reckon that folks have stretched their numbers? I'll be happy to put my name by my number. - Original Message - From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [WISPA] Book1.xls

2008-12-07 Thread Mac Dearman
I have always assumed that Part-15 or WISPA is a small microcosm of the industry as a whole. Most of our customers are not on either list... Daniel White 3-dB Networks What does that statement exactly mean? :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microcosm Mac -Original Message-

Re: [WISPA] Book1.xls

2008-12-07 Thread 3-dB Networks
A bastardization of the last definition :-) I don't think these lists represent the whole industry, just a part of it. I think many of the opinions expressed on this list (including mine) might not represent what the collective opinion of the industry might be. Basically this... things I hear

Re: [WISPA] Article

2008-12-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Shoot, I've given up on some threads for the most part. I just pop on once in a while. As for 486, when did those come out? I need to get me one of them. I'll bet they really rock compared to my 286! Have a great Christmas ol' friend! marlon - Original Message - From: [EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Book1.xls

2008-12-07 Thread Mac Dearman
See in line comments for my sanities sake :) -Original Message- Behalf Of Chuck McCown Some use multiple technologies mixed. 34 use canopy. I have sent the detail. Looks believable to me. [Mac says] I to use mixed technologies and the numbers just took me by surprise. I was

Re: [WISPA] Book1.xls

2008-12-07 Thread Mac Dearman
It absolutely does bring clarification :) There is an old saying that seems appropriate: You can never please all the people all the time, but you can please most of the people most of the time. It's been my experience that where there is more than one person to be represented - - there are at

Re: [WISPA] WISP Business Model -- remember this?

2008-12-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
- Original Message - From: Charles Wu (CTI) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 6:18 AM Subject: [WISPA] WISP Business Model -- remember this? All this talk about business models got me to dig through my notes where I found a

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Book1.xls

2008-12-07 Thread Joe Laura
Mac, I am just about all canopy in Louisana and I think there is a big canopy user in Baton Rouge as well. Joe Laura Superior Alarm/Wireless New Orleans,La. www.superior1.com WISPA Wants You! Join today!

Re: [WISPA] Do you provide backup services?

2008-12-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
We do it. Handybackup has been a nice little program. What I'm stuck on is how to get ahold of a cheap enough solution for massive amounts of storage. Anyone got any ideas for inexpensive storage space? Because handy backup encrypts everything before sending it to my servers security doesn't

Re: [WISPA] Do you provide backup services?

2008-12-07 Thread Mike Hammett
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148337 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 8:22 PM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Book1.xls

2008-12-07 Thread Brian Webster
And I think there was one big operator in New Orleans that deployed Canopy as part of their network (EarthLink perhaps?). In fact I think I know one of the guys who had to do some engineering work on that system :-) Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Book1.xls

2008-12-07 Thread Joe Laura
Yep, That was Earthlink. They were using canopy and tropos all over the city. That is until they took it all down. 2.4 actually works here now once again. Joe Laura Superior Alarm/Wireless New Orleans,La. www.superior1.com - Original Message - From: Brian Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [WISPA] US Broadband Internet Satellite Scheduled for Launch in 2011 (PC World) by PC World: Yahoo! Tech

2008-12-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
bahahahahahahahaha In 3 years 100gig won't be nearly enough for 2mil subs. Sure be nice to have a good sat up there though. marlon - Original Message - From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 2:48 PM Subject:

Re: [WISPA] buyer's remorse and cognitive dissonance

2008-12-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
roflol Too true. That's why I still like SmartBridges! grin marlon - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 5:53 PM Subject: [WISPA] buyer's remorse and cognitive

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Book1.xls

2008-12-07 Thread Brian Webster
Did they finally take it down? I hadn't checked up on it much after I left. I do know they had opened up that networkwork with no bandwidth limitations so anyone could get up to a 6 meg connection. They were giving away between 15 and 18 thousand sessions a month, all because they would not put

Re: [WISPA] Do you provide backup services?

2008-12-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Thanks! Do you happen to know if those are new or reman units? Seems pretty dang cheap. I'm after inexpensive, not cheap. I could sure see putting one of those into the web severs and then selling a lot more space to people or lower our prices. I figured that this much space was gonna cost

Re: [WISPA] buyer's remorse and cognitive dissonance

2008-12-07 Thread 3-dB Networks
To The Future! Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 8:09 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] buyer's remorse and cognitive dissonance roflol

Re: [WISPA] Do you provide backup services?

2008-12-07 Thread Mike Hammett
Brand new. Seagate drives are at the high end of PC hard drives. Hard drives are DAMN cheap these days. I mean DAMN cheap. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WISPA] Do you provide backup services?

2008-12-07 Thread Bob Knight
These are new: 5 year warranty. I just installed two of these in one of my servers at home. Love 'em. Bob Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Thanks! Do you happen to know if those are new or reman units? Seems pretty dang cheap. I'm after inexpensive, not cheap. I could sure see putting one of

Re: [WISPA] buyer's remorse and cognitive dissonance

2008-12-07 Thread Josh Luthman
I think the purpose of this to responsd to all of the I use for my WISP stuff. Trying to make people feel better about how they feel. I bought almost all of the WISP network I operate today and we are transitioning from Trango to MT. On 12/7/08, Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [WISPA] The fastest ISPs in America.. And only WildBlue was mentioned as wireless???

2008-12-07 Thread Mike Hammett
Does anyone know how to tweak your network to improve these results? Obviously raw bandwidth is not king in this measurement. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Drew Lentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: [WISPA] Do you provide backup services?

2008-12-07 Thread 3-dB Networks
I actually just installed two in my home desktop... RAID 1 array... working like a champ so far (got them for $119 on Black Friday) Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Knight Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008

Re: [WISPA] Do you provide backup services?

2008-12-07 Thread Josh Luthman
Just make sure you get the 24 hour drives (I think Seagate sticks ES in the conanical name for them) for such a task. On 12/7/08, Bob Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: These are new: 5 year warranty. I just installed two of these in one of my servers at home. Love 'em. Bob Marlon K. Schafer

Re: [WISPA] Do you provide backup services?

2008-12-07 Thread Charles Wyble
Stick those drives in this: http://promise.com/product/product_detail_eng.asp?product_id=185 Mike Hammett wrote: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148337 - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [WISPA] Do you provide backup services?

2008-12-07 Thread Charles Wyble
Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Thanks! Do you happen to know if those are new or reman units? Seems pretty dang cheap. I'm after inexpensive, not cheap. I swear by the baracuda drives. Nothing else. I could sure see putting one of those into the web severs and then selling a lot more

Re: [WISPA] buyer's remorse and cognitive dissonance

2008-12-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I know. That's what the joke is. The SB gear sucked swamp water by the time we moved to something else. But I still loved them! grin marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 7:30 PM

Re: [WISPA] buyer's remorse and cognitive dissonance

2008-12-07 Thread Josh Luthman
I have nothing but frustration for them... On 12/7/08, Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know. That's what the joke is. The SB gear sucked swamp water by the time we moved to something else. But I still loved them! grin marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman

[WISPA] Purcell Cabinets

2008-12-07 Thread 3-dB Networks
Hutton stopped carrying these and went to DDB Unlimited Cabinets. I have a need to purchase a few Purcell's (specifically four RAC18's and one RAC26). Anyone know who still carries them at a reasonable price? Checked Tessco and Graybar also. Daniel White 3-dB Networks

Re: [WISPA] Do you provide backup services?

2008-12-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
How much? Here's part of my issue with the off site backup stuff. I pay for internet based on usage. I need to keep as many of these danged off site backup customers on MY system not ever let them out to the internet. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Charles Wyble [EMAIL

Re: [WISPA] Purcell Cabinets

2008-12-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Go factory direct. Apryl at my office can get a name and phone number for you if you want help. I've also cc'd Mike at Purcell. Marlon - Original Message - From: 3-dB Networks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Motorola Canopy User Group' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List'

Re: [WISPA] Purcell Cabinets

2008-12-07 Thread 3-dB Networks
Thanks Marlon Daniel White 3-dB Networks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 8:44 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: Mike Warren Subject: Re: [WISPA] Purcell Cabinets Go factory direct.

Re: [WISPA] buyer's remorse and cognitive dissonance

2008-12-07 Thread Josh Luthman
You have extended your life span by at least 5 years by not going through that experience. On 12/7/08, D. Ryan Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was watching this and other WISP lists and getting ready to write a check to SB until Marlon made a negative comment about them. Thank goodness I did

Re: [WISPA] Article

2008-12-07 Thread RickG
286? When did you upgrade from your 8088? :) On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shoot, I've given up on some threads for the most part. I just pop on once in a while. As for 486, when did those come out? I need to get me one of them. I'll bet they

Re: [WISPA] US Broadband Internet Satellite Scheduled for Launch in2011 (PC World) by PC World: Yahoo! Tech

2008-12-07 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Is that even possible. What is the best modulation method currently in use? Divide 100 Gig by the best modulation method and then someone please tell me there is a space segment that broad that can legally be used. - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [WISPA] buyer's remorse and cognitive dissonance

2008-12-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Maybe the new gear is better than the old stuff. I saw 20 to 30% failure at some points though. I don't think it ever got below 15%. Tranzeo is probably less than 1% failure so far. Well, except for their POS access points. MT is still much much better. marlon - Original Message -

Re: [WISPA] Article

2008-12-07 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Heck I just plugged in an 8087 and am good another decade or two... - Original Message - From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article 286? When did you upgrade from your 8088? :)

Re: [WISPA] Article

2008-12-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Dude! 2 years ago, maybe three. Wow, I didn't know Windows 3.10 could run so well! Sure makes life a lot easier. marlon - Original Message - From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article

Re: [WISPA] Do you provide backup services?

2008-12-07 Thread Charles Wyble
Marlon K. Schafer wrote: How much? 2k. I pay for internet based on usage. Doesn't everyone? (I mean for anything beyond end users). I need to keep as many of these danged off site backup customers on MY system not ever let them out to the internet. Bingo.

Re: [WISPA] Do you provide backup services?

2008-12-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I have a 100 meg pipe that I pay about $1k for. But it's that low because I only pay for our average usage (well, 95%). If I were buying 20 megs I'd not give a rip how much of that people were using. Well, I'd care, but not nearly as much. If we did it that way we'd at least have a stable

Re: [WISPA] Article

2008-12-07 Thread RickG
So you upgraded the cpu and the os from Windows 286, eh? Those were the days! On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dude! 2 years ago, maybe three. Wow, I didn't know Windows 3.10 could run so well! Sure makes life a lot easier. marlon - Original

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Book1.xls

2008-12-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I tired but it wouldn't let me submit my answers. kept saying that I needed to put in a positive number. I even tried putting 0 into all open fields. Oh well. 6 alvarion 200 or so smartbridges are probably still out there. 300 to 400 tranzeo a handful of trango. at least 6 different brands of

Re: [WISPA] buyer's remorse and cognitive dissonance

2008-12-07 Thread D. Ryan Spott
All I can say is the next time you are on the wet side of the mountains on Hwy 2 Lunch, dinner, coffee, beer etc is on me. :) ryan On Dec 7, 2008, at 8:13 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Maybe the new gear is better than the old stuff. I saw 20 to 30% failure at some points though. I

Re: [WISPA] buyer's remorse and cognitive dissonance

2008-12-07 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Please see the Mtik/Tranzeo random dropping of clients feature that I endured... ryan On Dec 7, 2008, at 8:04 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: You have extended your life span by at least 5 years by not going through that experience. On 12/7/08, D. Ryan Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Book1.xls

2008-12-07 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
That's odd. I don't think anyone else has reported a problem. Here is the latest summary. Brand # Subs % By Subs Redline 286 0.49% Alvarion 3523 6.09% Ubiquity 1140 1.97% Canopy 34373 59.38% Other 4585 7.92% Trango 9276 16.02% MT 4707 8.13%

Re: [WISPA] Article

2008-12-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Grin I remember putting a 286 upgrade card into what must have been an ISA slot on my old Tandy 1000. Man, that made the F19 game run SOOO much smoother! I don't mess with pc's much anymore. What speeds are machines running at? I was just looking at a new one for the front office. I

Re: [WISPA] Do you provide backup services?

2008-12-07 Thread RickG
Which handybackup do you use? Google comes up with several. -RickG On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 9:22 PM, Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We do it. Handybackup has been a nice little program. What I'm stuck on is how to get ahold of a cheap enough solution for massive amounts of storage.

Re: [WISPA] buyer's remorse and cognitive dissonance

2008-12-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
That seems to have finally been dealt with here. Thank God! marlon - Original Message - From: D. Ryan Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 8:24 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] buyer's remorse and cognitive dissonance Please see the

[WISPA] Giant Map

2008-12-07 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
I would still like to see the giant map done. Personally I would trust WISPA as a trusted third party to hold confidential data for aggregation purposes. And if others didn't trust WISPA, WISPA could hire a CPA firm to hold the data. Wouldn't cost that much. - Original Message - From:

Re: [WISPA] Do you provide backup services?

2008-12-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
They all seem to be the same thing, just different versions. marlon - Original Message - From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Do you provide backup services? Which handybackup do you use?

Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Book1.xls

2008-12-07 Thread Butch Evans
On Sun, 7 Dec 2008, Mac Dearman wrote: [Mac says] I don't know anyone in Louisiana utilizing Canopy today. Yes, you do(Jay D. down south of you). ;-) -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network

Re: [WISPA] Article

2008-12-07 Thread RickG
Unless you have a heavy duty application, even the slowest boxes out there do the trick. Oh, except Celeron - they suck. On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 11:28 PM, Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grin I remember putting a 286 upgrade card into what must have been an ISA slot on my old Tandy

Re: [WISPA] US Broadband Internet Satellite Scheduled for Launch in2011 (PC World) by PC World: Yahoo! Tech

2008-12-07 Thread John Scrivner
Spot beams for frequency reuse, FSO, millimeter wave. I can see a few ways to do terabytes per second. Scriv On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 10:10 PM, Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is that even possible. What is the best modulation method currently in use? Divide 100 Gig by the best

Re: [WISPA] US Broadband Internet Satellite Scheduled for Launchin2011 (PC World) by PC World: Yahoo! Tech

2008-12-07 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
I don't think any FSO or millimeter wave will work from geosynchronous orbit. Too much rain fade. I would think X band will be the upper limit. - Original Message - From: John Scrivner [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 10:04 PM

Re: [WISPA] Do you provide backup services?

2008-12-07 Thread Travis Johnson
We use Handy Backup as well (on the client side). Then we setup a Linux FTP server in our NOC (total cost for 1u server with RAID 0 drives was less than $500) and we installed Webmin so anyone can add users to the box with a simple web interface. Handy Backup allows you to use FTP for the

Re: [WISPA] US Broadband Internet Satellite Scheduled forLaunchin2011 (PC World) by PC World: Yahoo! Tech

2008-12-07 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Lets assume some kind of fantastic modulator and demodulator exists that can do 10 bps per hz with real world Eb/No. That means the bandwidth of the space segment would be 10 GHz. That means DC to 10 GHz would be required. Or pretty much all the beachfront property available in the sky. Spot

Re: [WISPA] US Broadband Internet Satellite ScheduledforLaunchin2011 (PC World) by PC World: Yahoo! Tech

2008-12-07 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
I guess it is for real: http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/VSAT/0x0x225385/D0B62404-B5EF-4F07-A4E0-EC151C5A7256/ViaSat_2008_AR_lores.pdf They admit that using conventional technology this sat would use more than all the other bands put together. I think they are futzing with the total

Re: [WISPA] US Broadband Internet Satellite Scheduled for Launchin2011 (PC World) by PC World: Yahoo! Tech

2008-12-07 Thread John Scrivner
I predict we will see FSO and millimeter wave used on satellite Internet delivery within the next 5 years (rain fade and all). You can call me Netstradamus. :-) Scriv On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 11:06 PM, Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think any FSO or millimeter wave will work

Re: [WISPA] US Broadband Internet Satellite Scheduled forLaunchin2011 (PC World) by PC World: Yahoo! Tech

2008-12-07 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
Maybe for leo. There are some nasty atmospheric absorption bands and ionospheric effects that pretty much limits you to 30 GHz and below for geo. I know the navy uses FSO with lasers to satellites but that is pretty exotic. Are you predicting the end of the world as we know it? Shall I get my

Re: [WISPA] Article

2008-12-07 Thread Mike Hammett
xHz hasn't been the primary measurement of CPU performance in about 4 years. A 1.7 GHz processor today can beat the snot out of a 4 GHz+ processor of yesteryear. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From:

Re: [WISPA] US Broadband Internet Satellite Scheduled for Launchin2011 (PC World) by PC World: Yahoo! Tech

2008-12-07 Thread Blair Davis
FSO at THAT range? John Scrivner wrote: I predict we will see FSO and millimeter wave used on satellite Internet delivery within the next 5 years (rain fade and all). You can call me Netstradamus. :-) Scriv On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 11:06 PM, Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [WISPA] Article

2008-12-07 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
How and why? I've been so busy doing installs that there are a lot of things I'm way out of touch on. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article xHz

Re: [WISPA] Book1.xls

2008-12-07 Thread Tom DeReggi
Mac, Well said! Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 9:15 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Book1.xls It absolutely does

Re: [WISPA] Article

2008-12-07 Thread Mike Hammett
Different architectures, multiple processor cores per processor. One processor of today can literally do the work of 4 as they have 4 little processors inside one physical processor. Kind of like how channel size isn't a very good measurement of how much data you can push through it. There

Re: [WISPA] Public ROW

2008-12-07 Thread Tom DeReggi
And don't forget about the Union labor workforce. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Public ROW In

Re: [WISPA] 60% Canopy

2008-12-07 Thread Tom DeReggi
Its atleast 400 Trango short, I didn't participate in the survey :-) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wireless@wispa.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 7:58

Re: [WISPA] Fw: [Motorola II] 60% Canopy

2008-12-07 Thread Tom DeReggi
I'm not at all surprized if Motorola has majority share. What I ask is what does that mater any how? Motorola has a great distribution channel. And marketing and sales control market share penetration more than technical merits of the gear. Its so easy for a WISP to just jump on the bandwagon

Re: [WISPA] buyer's remorse and cognitive dissonance

2008-12-07 Thread Tom DeReggi
It is a well documented phenomena by economists and consumer scientists that once a person makes a choice that is hard or impossible to reverse they must then become an evangelist for that choice. Even if it becomes a wrong choice due to no fault of their own, they will continue to to

Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds

2008-12-07 Thread Tom DeReggi
I have to say, it had to be pretty exciting being a part of a company that was accomplishing such successful growth. I can tell you first hand, its not easy to grow. When someone is doing it well, they are clearly doing multiple things right. I'm sure Powercode was one of them. Tom DeReggi