Re: [WISPA] Imail Server Upgrade Trouble

2009-01-19 Thread Frank Muto
IMAIL 10 FAQ http://tinyurl.com/8ytj4b A) First make sure that your server meets the system requirements for the new version of IMail. For instance, it would be a good idea to make sure IIS is up and running with at least the default site. Also, make sure that IIS is configured to use .Net

Re: [WISPA] ptp400 5.8ghz bandwidth adjustment

2009-01-19 Thread Dustin Jurman
Yes, you have an option through the setup wizard on the master side for Link Symmetry Options are, Symmetric Data Rate (1 to 1) Asymmetric Data Rate (2 to 1) Dustin -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Alan Long

Re: [WISPA] 5 gig omni's?

2009-01-19 Thread Tom DeReggi
Good question...We searched for a long time to find good 5.X wide band omnis. Some were horrid, and others were good, but there are not a lot of chocies. The winner was Terrawave, distributed by Tessco. http://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=321805eventPage=3 They are nicely

Re: [WISPA] 5 gig omni's?

2009-01-19 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
The TerraWave antenna looks exactly like the PacWireless model. Perhaps it is manufactured in the same place in China, but is sold under a different brand name? Matt Larsen vistabeam.com Tom DeReggi wrote: Good question...We searched for a long time to find good 5.X wide band omnis. Some

Re: [WISPA] Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse?

2009-01-19 Thread Tom DeReggi
Good advice Bob, but I'll add There is a purpose for each model, and for that matter also a specific manufacturer, and all ODU is not always the best choice. For example... Trango boasts several core benefits, for some circumstances. Its Giga Split archetiecture allows Coax installs to

Re: [WISPA] 5 gig omni's?

2009-01-19 Thread Tom DeReggi
Matt, Yes, it looks similar. I as well guess that Terrawave might be OEMing them. But... Note: We have had good experience with PacWireless Omnis. But most all the PAcwireless units are spec's as narrow band (5.3 or 5.8, not 5.1-5.8). This does not mean that the PacWireless units can't do

[WISPA] New WISPA Members Announced

2009-01-19 Thread Rick Harnish
Dennis Burgess, Steve Coran and myself attended Animal Farm last week. I would like to thank Chuck McGown and the staff of Wireless Beehive for producing a very well run show. I would like to announce the following new members that joined at Animal Farm. Motorola also joined as a Vendor Member

[WISPA] Additional New Member Overlooked

2009-01-19 Thread Rick Harnish
I just found one more new member, bringing the total to 19! Applicant Name: David McBride Applicant Company: SkyWire Communications Please go to http://signup.wispa.org if you have not yet joined WISPA. Respectively, Rick Harnish

Re: [WISPA] 5 gig omni's?

2009-01-19 Thread RickG
Tom, Are you the one behind http://www.tomshardware.com? I elect you Grand Poobah of wireless hardware - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Poobah :) All kidding aside, I find your post to be most descriptive and informative. I most truly appreciate it! -RickG On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 11:00 AM,

Re: [WISPA] 5 gig omni's?

2009-01-19 Thread Tom DeReggi
Thanks man. PS. I am not affiliated with Tom's hardware, but I have respected him since my earliest PC days. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent:

[WISPA] Trango Question

2009-01-19 Thread Wallace Walcher
I just received an email from a vendor that sells competing products to Trango. The email said: I don't know if you are aware of this but Trango just recently let their complete engineering staff go so you may want to consider another product. Can anyone confirm/refute this? I have been

Re: [WISPA] Trango Question

2009-01-19 Thread 3-dB Networks
I have heard this a few times myself... although from what I heard it was mostly their point to multipoint product engineers. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of

Re: [WISPA] Additional New Member Overlooked

2009-01-19 Thread David E. Smith
Rick Harnish wrote: I just found one more new member, bringing the total to 19! I thought they weren't members until they actually paid? (I know this sounds like a smart-ass remark, but the distinction may be relevant in the future. If there were an election next week, say, they wouldn't be

Re: [WISPA] Trango Question

2009-01-19 Thread John Seaman
This is completely UNTRUE! I would like to find out who sent you this email because it is absolutely false and slanderous. If you don't mind I would really appreciate if you could send me a copy of the email off-list. Thank you very much. John Seaman Trango Systems, Inc.

Re: [WISPA] Trango Question

2009-01-19 Thread Brad Belton
John, as you know we also heard this rumor some time ago and brought it to your attention. It'll be interesting if it's the same source. You know you're making an impact when the competition stoops to a level like this. Keep up the good work! Best, Brad -Original Message- From:

Re: [WISPA] Trango Question

2009-01-19 Thread Tom DeReggi
Umm. Coming from a competitor, I would not trust that comment. I have no knowledge of what engineering staff Trango has or hasn't recently let go. I know that the typical people that I deal with at Trango are still there, and have been there for years. I will say, Trango has always made their

Re: [WISPA] Additional New Member Overlooked

2009-01-19 Thread Rick Harnish
Officially you are correct. However, after visiting face to face with these applicants at Animal Farm, I tend to trust that they will make good on their commitment to join WISPA. Respectfully, Rick -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]

Re: [WISPA] Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse?

2009-01-19 Thread lakeland
I believe (but not sure) Ceragon was the first with a DPRM mount. But agree with everything else :-) Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:32:12 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Trango Question

2009-01-19 Thread 3-dB Networks
I'd like to point out that my comment comes from some things I heard probably 6 months or so ago... Guess its one of those rumors that won't die :-) I'd also be interested who said it... interesting that someone feels that they need to say something like that to win your business. Daniel White

Re: [WISPA] Additional New Member Overlooked

2009-01-19 Thread lakeland
Or shame them in to joining. Whatever works. LOL Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Rick Harnish rharn...@greatamericanbroadband.com Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:46:33 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Additional New Member

[WISPA] Xohm CPE at Newegg

2009-01-19 Thread John Valenti
I was browsing around Newegg over the weekend and ran across this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16825184001 XOHM Modem by ZyXEL - $75 Is that pricing typical for 2.5GHz Wimax CPE? Is it locked down for use with XOHM? thanks

[WISPA] Really Simple Mikrotik shaping?

2009-01-19 Thread David E. Smith
A lot of the more expensive radios out there let you do bandwidth throttling by device - instead of throttling by IP address, or device MAC (because you could have several MACs behind one radio), you simply say this radio gets X down/Y up and you're done. Is there a simple way to do this with

Re: [WISPA] Really Simple Mikrotik shaping?

2009-01-19 Thread Dennis Burgess - Linktechs.net
You can use Radius and MAC authencation to deliver up and down bw at the AP/CPE ... Need to have a MT client though. -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik

Re: [WISPA] Trango Question

2009-01-19 Thread Wallace Walcher
I replied back to John offlist with the basic source. I am glad to know it is not true. On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 2:21 PM, John Seaman j...@trangosys.com wrote: This is completely UNTRUE! I would like to find out who sent you this email because it is absolutely false and slanderous. If you

Re: [WISPA] Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse?

2009-01-19 Thread 3-dB Networks
Tom, The last quotes I have done have put Bridgewave much cheaper than Dragonwave for 1.2Gpbs... although Dragonwave by far has a range benefit to it. Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Really Simple Mikrotik shaping?

2009-01-19 Thread Josh Luthman
Or radius and a pppoe client. On 1/19/09, Dennis Burgess - Linktechs.net dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote: You can use Radius and MAC authencation to deliver up and down bw at the AP/CPE ... Need to have a MT client though. -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik

Re: [WISPA] Multi-Point MMW- was Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse?

2009-01-19 Thread Matt Liotta
On Jan 19, 2009, at 5:13 PM, Charles Wu (CTI) wrote: 3. No -- while you *could* do PtMP -- problem is antenna beamwidth requirements (and interference protection minimums) Use the side lobes Luke. -Matt

Re: [WISPA] Ashes?

2009-01-19 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
Hi Jason, no experience with that but we have 5Ghz antennas covered with many different hum.. outdoor disgusting thing and it still works fine. So, unless the ashes are mixed with iron or E.M. metal, I think it would not change much. Just my 2 cents. Anyone have experience with 2.4 gear

Re: [WISPA] Really Simple Mikrotik shaping?

2009-01-19 Thread Cameron Kilton
Is there a way to limit the bandwidth by the user registration table. Example: All users in registration table get x download and x upload unless other changed manually. Is this possible? I've been wanting something like this as well. -Cameron -Original Message- From:

Re: [WISPA] Ashes?

2009-01-19 Thread Chad Halsted
You're refering to Fly Ash. Be careful inhaling that stuff, it can cause some serious problems. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fly_ash -Chad On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Jason supp...@azii.net wrote: Anyone have experience with 2.4 gear getting coated with ashes? Really fine coal ashes

Re: [WISPA] Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse?

2009-01-19 Thread Brad Belton
Last I checked the DragonWave fell short of BridgeWave in raw throughput/payload capacity. The AR80X-AES we have deployed will produce line speed 1000Mbps with AES256 encryption. I don't think DragonWave can pull that off. If so, please share the details as we're close to deploying another

Re: [WISPA] Really Simple Mikrotik shaping?

2009-01-19 Thread Dennis Burgess - Linktechs.net
With MT clients, yes this is possible. If you have a simple subnet you can do PCQ as well in in your queues if you wish too. -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc --

Re: [WISPA] Really Simple Mikrotik shaping?

2009-01-19 Thread Gerard Dupont III
If you are using Mikrotik for both AP's and CPE's, you can use the Default AP/Client Tx Rate settings under the wireless tab on your wireless interface properties. If you're not using Mikrotik clients it will only be able to control the AP Tx(client download) speeds. If you add the customers

Re: [WISPA] Really Simple Mikrotik shaping?

2009-01-19 Thread Cameron Kilton
We are using MT AP's with Nanostation SU. -Cam -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gerard Dupont III Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 5:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Really Simple Mikrotik shaping? If you

Re: [WISPA] Really Simple Mikrotik shaping?

2009-01-19 Thread Dennis Burgess - Linktechs.net
then down yes, up no. The Nanos, you can use pCQ to do a default rate limit. -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services* *Office*:

Re: [WISPA] Trango Question

2009-01-19 Thread John Seaman
Thanks Brad! I guess the rumor mill is running out of new rumors so they are recycling some old ones. As I mentioned, our engineering resources are well intact. In fact for anyone interested, I would like to make an invitation to come see for yourself and visit us at our facilities in the

Re: [WISPA] Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse?

2009-01-19 Thread Gino Villarini
Daniel So for a Duo link, I need what kind of license? Channel size? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 3-dB

Re: [WISPA] Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse?

2009-01-19 Thread 3-dB Networks
Channel size depends on the band... but you need whatever the largest channel size is. Then you need four licenses basically... V pol and H pol with two different frequencies. As I said Bridgewave is a much cheaper solution... but depending on what you need the Dragonwave solution might be more

Re: [WISPA] Multi-Point MMW- was Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse?

2009-01-19 Thread Tom DeReggi
Charles, Thanks for the clarification on no ptmp. However, it should be noted that 24Ghz PtMP does exist, via other product lines. My understanding is that XO currently does it here in DC, at one of our cell sites. I can't remember what gear they use to accomplish it. (maybe Hughes?) I do not

Re: [WISPA] Multi-Point MMW- was Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse?

2009-01-19 Thread Gino Villarini
24 ghz? Maybe 28 Ghz Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 8:12 PM To:

Re: [WISPA] Multi-Point MMW- was Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse?

2009-01-19 Thread Tom DeReggi
Good point Matt. My original comment/thoughts were not to bypass licensing requirements per link.(meaning in PtMP, with 2 CPEs and one shared radio, it would require two path analysises). It was to minimize interference, and colocation fees, when installing multiple links to several Customer

Re: [WISPA] Multi-Point MMW- was Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse?

2009-01-19 Thread 3-dB Networks
If it matters any I know Exalt has played around with reusing 6GHz licenses since I guess they cover a pretty wide area... the gear is now much better than the rules are. I don't recall all of the details except that if you had once license you could be able to sneak another link in using the

Re: [WISPA] Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse?

2009-01-19 Thread Tom DeReggi
Brad, Well, it can't with 2 radios. But it can with Dragonwave DUO combining 4 links for a total of 1400mbps. And Trango Apex at 700mbps is getting pretty close. But that is not my point. I personally do not think that peak capacity is the big factor in a buying decission for WISPs.. Once you

Re: [WISPA] Multi-Point MMW- was Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse?

2009-01-19 Thread can...@believewireless.net
24GHz was setup specifically for PtP. However, I'd like to see 60GHz have a PtMP product. I understand the range would be limited, but it would give a lot of bandwidth in that short range. Great for office parks. On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 7:31 PM, 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net wrote: If it

Re: [WISPA] Really Simple Mikrotik shaping?

2009-01-19 Thread Joel White
We currently use Radius to apply up and down BW throttling at the MT AP, without MT clients. Some are some are not, but works the same. Also as mentioned through the Access List you can set the throttling on the wireless link rather than through a queue. Best Regards, Joel Message: 17 Date:

Re: [WISPA] Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse?

2009-01-19 Thread can...@believewireless.net
A customer came to us looking for gigabit speeds between buildings and had the money to pay for it. So, we quoted an 80GHz link w/2ft antennas with over 2 hours of down time and a licensed Dragonwave link that would do 300Mbps w/5 minutes of downtime at half the price. Once they saw both in the

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2009-01-19 Thread os10rules
I think you'll find the products which are sold as inverters (Xantrex for example) which have built in battery chargers will have a quicker recharge time because they are engineered for folks who run a generator for a few hours and then invert off the batteries the rest of the time. Most

Re: [WISPA] Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse?

2009-01-19 Thread Brad Belton
Tom, Wow?!? Four links as in eight radios or two links and four radios? Either way that'll require some real estate! You're making assumptions that 1Gbps isn't needed at the time of installation and ROI is pushed out. Neither could be the case. (e.g. It wasn't in our selection of BridgeWave)

Re: [WISPA] Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse?

2009-01-19 Thread Tom DeReggi
I fully agree. I'll add... the value of millimeterwave is 80Ghz, to actually have a license for next to free. The FCC created that for provider's benefit, not for manufacturers to charge us more and put the savings in their pockets. The truth is that 80Ghz takes the same cost to make as

Re: [WISPA] Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse?

2009-01-19 Thread Tom DeReggi
Well Brad, I never said Bridgewave didn't have a viable market. Nor that Bridgewave wasn;t a good decission for your application. When someone actually needs a GB, its a heck of a good deal. I can give an example of a WISP that has a cell tower, that agregates 300mbps licensed links, but needs

Re: [WISPA] Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse?

2009-01-19 Thread Brad Belton
Half mile? Ours is almost 2.5miles in an RF unfriendly rain zone. The link has been up for more than a year and the client has been thrilled. So thrilled in fact that we've got another planned for them with a roadmap of more to follow. They're happy with the price and we're happy with the

Re: [WISPA] Really Simple Mikrotik shaping?

2009-01-19 Thread Scottie Arnett
Thank You! Nuf said! Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:34:51 -0500 Or radius and a pppoe client. On 1/19/09, Dennis Burgess -

Re: [WISPA] Multi-Point MMW- was Ceragon, Dragonwave and whatelse?

2009-01-19 Thread Scottie Arnett
I agree with Matt here somewhat. If they are close enough, you could do what Dish and Direct satellite doposition each satellite just enough past the other to get good signal. Will translate to wireless backhauls/BTMP in some cases, dependent upon the software in the PTP radio's. Scottie

Re: [WISPA] Really Simple Mikrotik shaping?

2009-01-19 Thread Josh Luthman
Many client radios can do pppoe as well as Windows has it's own pppoe client I am told that works quite well. On 1/20/09, Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com wrote: Thank You! Nuf said! Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Josh Luthman