[WISPA] 3.65GHz Redline BH

2009-01-23 Thread 3-dB Networks
Does anyone have the spec sheet? I see one on their website but its marked preliminary. hoping they had something a bit more complete. Maybe someone can help answer a few questions for me: What is the max throughput roughly per channel size? What type of range are these things getting?

Re: [WISPA] 3.65GHz Redline BH

2009-01-23 Thread Gino Villarini
The complete manual is in the fcc website Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Jan 23, 2009, at 9:14 AM, 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net wrote: Does anyone have the spec sheet? I see one on their website but its marked preliminary. hoping they had something a bit more complete. Maybe

Re: [WISPA] 3.65GHz Redline BH

2009-01-23 Thread Matt Liotta
These are not officially available yet. Hence the lack of information. I have a pair at our office for testing if anyone wants to swing by. Unfortunately, I can't share any results at this point. -Matt On Jan 23, 2009, at 8:12 AM, 3-dB Networks wrote: Does anyone have the spec sheet? I

Re: [WISPA] Employee Tracking Program

2009-01-23 Thread Eric Rogers
I just wanted to follow up for those that are interested. I included the original email below, but I will summarize. I was asked to find a way to log where employees are going on the internet. I took the many suggestions of NTop, PRTG, using NetFlow data and a reporting server, etc. They

Re: [WISPA] 3.65GHz Redline BH

2009-01-23 Thread Kevin Suitor
The MAX+ 3.5 with FCC approval is now available. We have been shipping this product worldwide since 4Q 2008. Please check with your Redline Certified Partner for up to date information. I am checking on why the brochure on the web site is still marked preliminary. Kevin -Original

Re: [WISPA] Employee Tracking Program

2009-01-23 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Have you looked at Netsweeper? Jeff -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Eric Rogers Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 9:42 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Employee Tracking Program I just wanted to follow up

Re: [WISPA] Employee Tracking Program

2009-01-23 Thread os10rules
FYI there's also a semi-official hack (information is on their forum: forums.untangle.com) about how to install ntop reporting as well. Hopefully that as well as more detailed reporting will be included in future releases. I participated in the recent Astaro beta and that really spoiled

Re: [WISPA] Employee Tracking Program

2009-01-23 Thread Cliff Olle
I use untangle at many of the companies that I manage. Makes my job easier, and makes their employees more productive. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 8:57 AM To:

[WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
Dear All I am wondering how many switches can be put together in a bridged environment (via radio-bridges) with the Rapid STP. Just curious because I did not find anywhere the maximum number and wondering if the backbone collapse after 10 or 100 or 1000 switches. Also wondering what do you

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Josh Luthman
If you have that many a routed network would be much simpler. Any ideas on the limit of stp devices, though? On 1/23/09, Paolo Di Francesco difrance...@teleinform.com wrote: Dear All I am wondering how many switches can be put together in a bridged environment (via radio-bridges) with the

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
we are routed, but routed has other problems. So I was just wondering about switched... Thank you. If you have that many a routed network would be much simpler. Any ideas on the limit of stp devices, though? On 1/23/09, Paolo Di Francesco difrance...@teleinform.com wrote: Dear All I am

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Gino Villarini
Problems like? Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Jan 23, 2009, at 11:59 AM, Paolo Di Francesco difrance...@teleinform.com wrote: we are routed, but routed has other problems. So I was just wondering about switched... Thank you. If you have that many a routed network would be much

Re: [WISPA] Employee Tracking Program

2009-01-23 Thread Nathan Stooke
Hello, We have also used http://www.endian.com/en/. At the time, about 8 months ago, untangle was kind of picky as to what hardware it would work with. I do not know if that is still the case. We chose to use endian and love it. We are rolling out a network wide one for our hotspots.

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Nathan Stooke
Hello, MPLS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 9:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP? we are routed, but routed has

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
Hi Nathan, it could be a solution, but: 1) the only product I found interesting it CISCO ME switch with MPLS. Any other suggestion welcome. 2) cost per site goes really high for the backbone. If we would like to implement MPLS in each site, it would cost us a fortune. 3) Still wondering about

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Travis Johnson
Mikrotik now supports MPLS. So any routerboard should work fine, depending on how much traffic you need to move. Travis Microserv Paolo Di Francesco wrote: Hi Nathan, it could be a solution, but: 1) the only product I found interesting it CISCO ME switch with MPLS. Any other suggestion

[WISPA] bonding

2009-01-23 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, We currently provide DSL service using Qwest. We are a megahost provider, meaning we have a DS3 directly to Qwest, and then we can sell DSL circuits using our bandwidth, etc. In the past, we have been able to bond multiple DSL lines using a Cisco router on the customer side and then using

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
Hi Travis to be honest mikrotik routing is not working well, and we are far from being happy about the OSPF implementation: too many bugs and lost routes. So, I would like to move to something more robust. Mikrotik MPLS implementation looks more at experimental stage and I would not use it for

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Josh Luthman
I'm waiting for Butch to step on that OSPF + Mikrotik thing... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Paolo Di

Re: [WISPA] bonding

2009-01-23 Thread eje
I do believe you would be able to use an Imagestream. If memory serves me right they do support mlppp. I'm sure Jeff can correct me if I'm wrong. /Eje --Original Message-- From: Travis Johnson Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org To: WISPA General List ReplyTo: WISPA General List Subject:

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Jerry Richardson
There was a presentation on MikroTik MPLS at Animal Farm that was very informative. We are not using any MikroTik (yet) however a couple of WIPS operators that I trust are using it with alot of success. __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications

Re: [WISPA] bonding

2009-01-23 Thread R Stritt
Travis, I have done lots of research on the MLPPP solution, and tried various configs, if you get it working, please let me know. We also are setup the same, except to att, and also use the CEF solution, however.. We also have used the xincom twin routers. They work pretty good, for a balancing

Re: [WISPA] bonding

2009-01-23 Thread Larry A Weidig
Travis: We have a similar setup with ATT on their network as you have with Qwest. We are able to use Mikrotik and MlPPPoE to created bonded connections through 2 or more DSL links for sites that require additional bandwidth. I believe though this is something that needs to be

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread eje
Just curious what issues do you see, what version are you using. Running the experimental routing package? Are you using MikroTik only or are you exchanging OSPF routing with other devices? I used OSPF and mikotik for a long time and except for a few bad revisions it has been rock solid. /Eje

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Josh Luthman
I die a little inside every time I hear about this year's Animal Farm as I couldn't make it =( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Jan 23,

Re: [WISPA] bonding

2009-01-23 Thread Randy Cosby
MLPPP should work, we're also getting ready to test that. We normally do PPPOA on the DSL router, but a bridged connection with PPPOE on a separate device behind the DSL modems should work as well. Another half-baked thought: Could you use Cisco's bridge-group feature to map the vpi/vci to

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Randy Cosby
They sure like to rub it in don't they :) Randy Josh Luthman wrote: I die a little inside every time I hear about this year's Animal Farm as I couldn't make it =( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
Mixed 2.9.X/3.X, yes running the right one routing pack (it was much worse with the stable pack). 1) OSPF default route goes lost time to time, so some nodes get but of the network 2) sometimes OSPF does not communicate some routes (the neighbor is there but the route is not appearing, it should

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Josh Luthman
They sure do... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote: They sure like to

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Jerry Richardson
That'll teach ya, See you there next year. __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 8:39 AM To:

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Nathan Stooke
Hello, Yes our core is running MPLS. We us Mikrotik routers so it does not coast use a huge amount. They also have anew virtual router that allows you to take 1 box and put 2 or more routers on it. We have a MPLS core router and a Edge router at each main tower on our ring. This did

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
just for curiosity: how many nodes? Hello, Yes our core is running MPLS. We us Mikrotik routers so it does not coast use a huge amount. They also have anew virtual router that allows you to take 1 box and put 2 or more routers on it. We have a MPLS core router and a Edge router

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Dennis Burgess - Linktechs.net
Routed is the way to go. Think of this, the internet is routed, why should you not be.. I support hundreds of networks running RouterOS most with dynamic routing, with very little issues. * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Kevin Neal
We are using a routed backbone with Mikrotik's OSPF. We have Mikrotik working without problems with product from ImageStream, Cisco, and Juniper. I haven't tried anything MPLS yet, we've been too busy to experiment with it. The only troubles I've ran into with Mikrotik OSPF has been the

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
Parrebbe che gli sfigati siamo solo noi... bha... We are using a routed backbone with Mikrotik's OSPF. We have Mikrotik working without problems with product from ImageStream, Cisco, and Juniper. I haven't tried anything MPLS yet, we've been too busy to experiment with it. The only

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Nathan Stooke
Hello, Right now 8. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 11:31 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP? just for curiosity: how

Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?

2009-01-23 Thread Paolo Di Francesco
sorry, not meant to send it here. I need some more coffee I guess...hum :/ Parrebbe che gli sfigati siamo solo noi... bha... We are using a routed backbone with Mikrotik's OSPF. We have Mikrotik working without problems with product from ImageStream, Cisco, and Juniper. I haven't

Re: [WISPA] 3.65GHz Redline BH

2009-01-23 Thread Mike Goicoechea
The confusion may be that the AN-80 with 3.65 PTMP should be in March. AN-80i MAX Plus Radio ptp supports 3.3-3.8 GHz and 3.65 GHz band in the US. High power radio up to 25 dBm and 21 dBm @ 64 QAM Many more channel sizes : 3.5, 5, 7, 10, 14, 20, 28 MHz Thanks, Mike Goicoechea -Original

Re: [WISPA] bonding

2009-01-23 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Hi Eje, Yes, you are correct. We can bond DSL using MLPPP. Jeff -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of e...@wisp-router.com Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 11:28 AM To: WISPA General List Cc: Jeff Broadwick Subject: Re:

[WISPA] service to:

2009-01-23 Thread CHUCK PROFITO
Anybody serving Reedley, Dinuba, or Squaw Valley California. These are east of Fresno, CA Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC cprof...@cv-access.com Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California

Re: [WISPA] 3.65GHz Redline BH

2009-01-23 Thread 3-dB Networks
Thank you Mike I think that was were I was confused Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Goicoechea Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 3:17 PM To: 'WISPA General List'