Re: [WISPA] Nanostation support, tips, etc.
Excellent I have sent several back without any problems Jory Privett Partnership Broadband - Original Message - From: rabbtux rabbtux rabb...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 12:20 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nanostation support, tips, etc. Anyone ever rma a Nanostation? Ubiquity good to work with? On 1/25/09, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Just remember to use Eje's POE calculator first! :) On 1/26/09, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Pretty happy with the dozen or so we have out there. No issues at all other than one on a 350' run of cat5 that needed at 24V power supply to be stable. Forrest pulled one apart and said the power supply max is around 18V so use caution on overpowering. __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 8:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nanostation support, tips, etc. Yes, it does. runs over 200ft have been unreliable with the 12VDC supply. Needing power cycling 2-3 times a day. Josh Luthman wrote: I don't believe you'll lose voltage over a 150 ft line when you're only pulling an amp or two, but I could be wrong. Have you experienced something that proves me wrong? On 1/25/09, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net mailto:the...@wmwisp.net wrote: Use a hose clamp, instead of the included zip ties, to mount outdoors. If network cable is longer than 150ft, use an 18VDC power supply instead of the included 12VDC supply. If talking to an older 'B' only AP, set the radios to 'B' only mode. Adaptive antenna mode is not worth using. Make sure to update units to 3.x.x firmware. Many are still shipping with 2.1.x. All this is for the NS2 units. I've never used the NS5's. Good support, via their fourm. Haven't had and DOA's or needed to RMA any of these yet. rabbtux rabbtux wrote: We are considering using these units for 2 and 5 GHz Cpe. What is your experience with ubiquiti support, failure rates, and any deployment tips? I sure like what we see in our evaluation. Thanks in advance, Marshall WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Sent from my mobile device WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nanostation support, tips, etc.
RMA to Ubiquiti? Wouldnt you RMA to the distributor you purchased it from? -RickG On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 1:20 AM, rabbtux rabbtux rabb...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone ever rma a Nanostation? Ubiquity good to work with? On 1/25/09, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Just remember to use Eje's POE calculator first! :) On 1/26/09, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Pretty happy with the dozen or so we have out there. No issues at all other than one on a 350' run of cat5 that needed at 24V power supply to be stable. Forrest pulled one apart and said the power supply max is around 18V so use caution on overpowering. __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 8:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nanostation support, tips, etc. Yes, it does. runs over 200ft have been unreliable with the 12VDC supply. Needing power cycling 2-3 times a day. Josh Luthman wrote: I don't believe you'll lose voltage over a 150 ft line when you're only pulling an amp or two, but I could be wrong. Have you experienced something that proves me wrong? On 1/25/09, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net mailto:the...@wmwisp.net wrote: Use a hose clamp, instead of the included zip ties, to mount outdoors. If network cable is longer than 150ft, use an 18VDC power supply instead of the included 12VDC supply. If talking to an older 'B' only AP, set the radios to 'B' only mode. Adaptive antenna mode is not worth using. Make sure to update units to 3.x.x firmware. Many are still shipping with 2.1.x. All this is for the NS2 units. I've never used the NS5's. Good support, via their fourm. Haven't had and DOA's or needed to RMA any of these yet. rabbtux rabbtux wrote: We are considering using these units for 2 and 5 GHz Cpe. What is your experience with ubiquiti support, failure rates, and any deployment tips? I sure like what we see in our evaluation. Thanks in advance, Marshall WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Sent from my mobile device WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network tower cam
inscape data. Hutton/ec has them. marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 5:25 PM Subject: [WISPA] Network tower cam We are interested in putting a camera up on a tower to get some we're 700 1337 4 u feel. I do want a PoE/Ethernet one - no coax/analog cameras! Does anyone have suggestions? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?
We are using BGP internally on Mikrotik with good success instead of OSPF. I've never done OSPF on it, as my network isn't entirely star shaped like OSPF is said to be created for. There is a range of private BGP AS numbers for such applications. Each site's router gets an ASN and has peering connections to upstream and other connected sites. On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 05:23:33PM +0100, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: Hi Travis to be honest mikrotik routing is not working well, and we are far from being happy about the OSPF implementation: too many bugs and lost routes. So, I would like to move to something more robust. Mikrotik MPLS implementation looks more at experimental stage and I would not use it for any reason in any production network. Maybe I am wrong and it's really stable, so if somebody is using mikrotik-MPLS let us know it! Thank you. Mikrotik now supports MPLS. So any routerboard should work fine, depending on how much traffic you need to move. Travis Microserv Paolo Di Francesco wrote: Hi Nathan, it could be a solution, but: 1) the only product I found interesting it CISCO ME switch with MPLS. Any other suggestion welcome. 2) cost per site goes really high for the backbone. If we would like to implement MPLS in each site, it would cost us a fortune. 3) Still wondering about maturity or many MPLS implementations, not sure the brands that really work and the ones which does not. Suggestions welcome ;) P.S. are you using MPLS? Hello, MPLS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 9:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP? we are routed, but routed has other problems. So I was just wondering about switched... Thank you. If you have that many a routed network would be much simpler. Any ideas on the limit of stp devices, though? On 1/23/09, Paolo Di Francesco difrance...@teleinform.com wrote: Dear All I am wondering how many switches can be put together in a bridged environment (via radio-bridges) with the Rapid STP. Just curious because I did not find anywhere the maximum number and wondering if the backbone collapse after 10 or 100 or 1000 switches. Also wondering what do you advice, I know that not all the switches are the same... (thinking about HP for this application) Thank you in advance. -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Teleinform S.p.A. Sede Legale: Via Francesco Paolo Di Blasi 1, 90144 Palermo Unita' Operativa: Via Regione Siciliana 49, 90046 Monreale Tel: +39-091-6408576, +39-091-6404501 Fax: +39-091-6406200 http://www.wikitel.it http://www.teleinform.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Teleinform S.p.A. Sede Legale: Via Francesco Paolo Di Blasi 1, 90144 Palermo Unita' Operativa: Via Regione Siciliana 49, 90046 Monreale Tel: +39-091-6408576, +39-091-6404501 Fax: +39-091-6406200 http://www.wikitel.it http://www.teleinform.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:
Re: [WISPA] Nanostation support, tips, etc.
That is where you should RMA things to first. As well first place to get technical support after checking on their forums. Ourselves we have a dedicated support department to handle your questions. Just have invoice number or serial number handy when calling to speed up support questions. Eje Gustafsson CTO WISP-Router, Inc. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:40:13 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nanostation support, tips, etc. RMA to Ubiquiti? Wouldnt you RMA to the distributor you purchased it from? -RickG On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 1:20 AM, rabbtux rabbtux rabb...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone ever rma a Nanostation? Ubiquity good to work with? On 1/25/09, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Just remember to use Eje's POE calculator first! :) On 1/26/09, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Pretty happy with the dozen or so we have out there. No issues at all other than one on a 350' run of cat5 that needed at 24V power supply to be stable. Forrest pulled one apart and said the power supply max is around 18V so use caution on overpowering. __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 8:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nanostation support, tips, etc. Yes, it does. runs over 200ft have been unreliable with the 12VDC supply. Needing power cycling 2-3 times a day. Josh Luthman wrote: I don't believe you'll lose voltage over a 150 ft line when you're only pulling an amp or two, but I could be wrong. Have you experienced something that proves me wrong? On 1/25/09, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net mailto:the...@wmwisp.net wrote: Use a hose clamp, instead of the included zip ties, to mount outdoors. If network cable is longer than 150ft, use an 18VDC power supply instead of the included 12VDC supply. If talking to an older 'B' only AP, set the radios to 'B' only mode. Adaptive antenna mode is not worth using. Make sure to update units to 3.x.x firmware. Many are still shipping with 2.1.x. All this is for the NS2 units. I've never used the NS5's. Good support, via their fourm. Haven't had and DOA's or needed to RMA any of these yet. rabbtux rabbtux wrote: We are considering using these units for 2 and 5 GHz Cpe. What is your experience with ubiquiti support, failure rates, and any deployment tips? I sure like what we see in our evaluation. Thanks in advance, Marshall WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Sent from my mobile device WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
[WISPA] Thanks all!
Hey gang, Today is my first day back at work since the heart attack. I wanted to send out a THANKS for the thoughts, cards, flowers and prayers. I really appreciate all of you more than you know. It seems that I am going to be better than ever now that I have two stints and a balloon in the arteries of my heart J I was glad to get the report of zero damage to my ole' ticker from the heart attack and I am also glad to report that I am now a reformed smoker. There is something about this new incentive called life that has made quitting smoking after 36 years - - a lot easier. Thanks again crew - - y'all are a great group to be associated with! Sincerely, Mac Dearman WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?
Would you mind sharing how many routers you have using BGP and Mikrotik? I've been told that BGP is only a majority successful. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:01 AM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote: We are using BGP internally on Mikrotik with good success instead of OSPF. I've never done OSPF on it, as my network isn't entirely star shaped like OSPF is said to be created for. There is a range of private BGP AS numbers for such applications. Each site's router gets an ASN and has peering connections to upstream and other connected sites. On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 05:23:33PM +0100, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: Hi Travis to be honest mikrotik routing is not working well, and we are far from being happy about the OSPF implementation: too many bugs and lost routes. So, I would like to move to something more robust. Mikrotik MPLS implementation looks more at experimental stage and I would not use it for any reason in any production network. Maybe I am wrong and it's really stable, so if somebody is using mikrotik-MPLS let us know it! Thank you. Mikrotik now supports MPLS. So any routerboard should work fine, depending on how much traffic you need to move. Travis Microserv Paolo Di Francesco wrote: Hi Nathan, it could be a solution, but: 1) the only product I found interesting it CISCO ME switch with MPLS. Any other suggestion welcome. 2) cost per site goes really high for the backbone. If we would like to implement MPLS in each site, it would cost us a fortune. 3) Still wondering about maturity or many MPLS implementations, not sure the brands that really work and the ones which does not. Suggestions welcome ;) P.S. are you using MPLS? Hello, MPLS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 9:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP? we are routed, but routed has other problems. So I was just wondering about switched... Thank you. If you have that many a routed network would be much simpler. Any ideas on the limit of stp devices, though? On 1/23/09, Paolo Di Francesco difrance...@teleinform.com wrote: Dear All I am wondering how many switches can be put together in a bridged environment (via radio-bridges) with the Rapid STP. Just curious because I did not find anywhere the maximum number and wondering if the backbone collapse after 10 or 100 or 1000 switches. Also wondering what do you advice, I know that not all the switches are the same... (thinking about HP for this application) Thank you in advance. -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Teleinform S.p.A. Sede Legale: Via Francesco Paolo Di Blasi 1, 90144 Palermo Unita' Operativa: Via Regione Siciliana 49, 90046 Monreale Tel: +39-091-6408576, +39-091-6404501 Fax: +39-091-6406200 http://www.wikitel.it http://www.teleinform.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Teleinform S.p.A. Sede Legale: Via Francesco Paolo Di Blasi 1, 90144 Palermo Unita' Operativa: Via Regione Siciliana 49, 90046 Monreale Tel: +39-091-6408576, +39-091-6404501 Fax: +39-091-6406200 http://www.wikitel.it http://www.teleinform.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --
Re: [WISPA] Nanostation support, tips, etc.
They have worked well for us probably have a few dozen in the field now both ns2 and ns5. I will agree with the Voltage drop over longer distances, however, I not sure that the exact maximum voltage input is on the Nano's. I heard 24-volt anybody have anything to add to this? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of e...@wisp-router.com Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:06 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nanostation support, tips, etc. That is where you should RMA things to first. As well first place to get technical support after checking on their forums. Ourselves we have a dedicated support department to handle your questions. Just have invoice number or serial number handy when calling to speed up support questions. Eje Gustafsson CTO WISP-Router, Inc. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:40:13 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nanostation support, tips, etc. RMA to Ubiquiti? Wouldnt you RMA to the distributor you purchased it from? -RickG On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 1:20 AM, rabbtux rabbtux rabb...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone ever rma a Nanostation? Ubiquity good to work with? On 1/25/09, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Just remember to use Eje's POE calculator first! :) On 1/26/09, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Pretty happy with the dozen or so we have out there. No issues at all other than one on a 350' run of cat5 that needed at 24V power supply to be stable. Forrest pulled one apart and said the power supply max is around 18V so use caution on overpowering. __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 8:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nanostation support, tips, etc. Yes, it does. runs over 200ft have been unreliable with the 12VDC supply. Needing power cycling 2-3 times a day. Josh Luthman wrote: I don't believe you'll lose voltage over a 150 ft line when you're only pulling an amp or two, but I could be wrong. Have you experienced something that proves me wrong? On 1/25/09, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net mailto:the...@wmwisp.net wrote: Use a hose clamp, instead of the included zip ties, to mount outdoors. If network cable is longer than 150ft, use an 18VDC power supply instead of the included 12VDC supply. If talking to an older 'B' only AP, set the radios to 'B' only mode. Adaptive antenna mode is not worth using. Make sure to update units to 3.x.x firmware. Many are still shipping with 2.1.x. All this is for the NS2 units. I've never used the NS5's. Good support, via their fourm. Haven't had and DOA's or needed to RMA any of these yet. rabbtux rabbtux wrote: We are considering using these units for 2 and 5 GHz Cpe. What is your experience with ubiquiti support, failure rates, and any deployment tips? I sure like what we see in our evaluation. Thanks in advance, Marshall WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Sent from my mobile device WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?
BGP is more designed for routing application with upstream or downstream applications. Of course you can use it internally as well and in that case if your not using BGP for upstream you can use any AS number you want. OSPF can be used in any network design and is designed for internal routing. You do not at all have to be star shaped actually OSPF functions best when not and you are circular shaped. I have used BGP for our internal routing but moved to an OSPF implementation and feel it do work better and faster then BGP at least on our network and we are neither really stared nor circular in our network configuration. Eje Gustafsson CTO WISP-Router, Inc. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 11:01:08 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP? We are using BGP internally on Mikrotik with good success instead of OSPF. I've never done OSPF on it, as my network isn't entirely star shaped like OSPF is said to be created for. There is a range of private BGP AS numbers for such applications. Each site's router gets an ASN and has peering connections to upstream and other connected sites. On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 05:23:33PM +0100, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: Hi Travis to be honest mikrotik routing is not working well, and we are far from being happy about the OSPF implementation: too many bugs and lost routes. So, I would like to move to something more robust. Mikrotik MPLS implementation looks more at experimental stage and I would not use it for any reason in any production network. Maybe I am wrong and it's really stable, so if somebody is using mikrotik-MPLS let us know it! Thank you. Mikrotik now supports MPLS. So any routerboard should work fine, depending on how much traffic you need to move. Travis Microserv Paolo Di Francesco wrote: Hi Nathan, it could be a solution, but: 1) the only product I found interesting it CISCO ME switch with MPLS. Any other suggestion welcome. 2) cost per site goes really high for the backbone. If we would like to implement MPLS in each site, it would cost us a fortune. 3) Still wondering about maturity or many MPLS implementations, not sure the brands that really work and the ones which does not. Suggestions welcome ;) P.S. are you using MPLS? Hello, MPLS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 9:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP? we are routed, but routed has other problems. So I was just wondering about switched... Thank you. If you have that many a routed network would be much simpler. Any ideas on the limit of stp devices, though? On 1/23/09, Paolo Di Francesco difrance...@teleinform.com wrote: Dear All I am wondering how many switches can be put together in a bridged environment (via radio-bridges) with the Rapid STP. Just curious because I did not find anywhere the maximum number and wondering if the backbone collapse after 10 or 100 or 1000 switches. Also wondering what do you advice, I know that not all the switches are the same... (thinking about HP for this application) Thank you in advance. -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Teleinform S.p.A. Sede Legale: Via Francesco Paolo Di Blasi 1, 90144 Palermo Unita' Operativa: Via Regione Siciliana 49, 90046 Monreale Tel: +39-091-6408576, +39-091-6404501 Fax: +39-091-6406200 http://www.wikitel.it http://www.teleinform.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Teleinform S.p.A. Sede Legale: Via Francesco Paolo Di Blasi 1, 90144 Palermo Unita' Operativa: Via Regione Siciliana 49, 90046 Monreale Tel: +39-091-6408576, +39-091-6404501 Fax: +39-091-6406200 http://www.wikitel.it
Re: [WISPA] Thanks all!
Welcome back Mac. Glad to hear you have been able to recover and in the event of it all also been able to stop smoking (congratulations). Stay strong, eat healthy and stay away from the cancer sticks. The later might be hard especially when you have a drink or two that is when most reformed smokers have the hardest time to refrain. Cheers and welcome back to humanity Mac. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Mac Dearman li...@inetsouth.com Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:07:30 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org; 'Motorola Canopy User Group'motor...@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Thanks all! Hey gang, Today is my first day back at work since the heart attack. I wanted to send out a THANKS for the thoughts, cards, flowers and prayers. I really appreciate all of you more than you know. It seems that I am going to be better than ever now that I have two stints and a balloon in the arteries of my heart J I was glad to get the report of zero damage to my ole' ticker from the heart attack and I am also glad to report that I am now a reformed smoker. There is something about this new incentive called life that has made quitting smoking after 36 years - - a lot easier. Thanks again crew - - y'all are a great group to be associated with! Sincerely, Mac Dearman WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Glad we don't have this ICE
http://crazytopics.blogspot.com/2007/03/versoix-covered-with-ice.html Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Glad we don't have this ICE
That's the kind of ice I need to protect that stupid grid of =( Haven't gotten a chance to see if sex wax helps on that or not. I wouldn't expect another ice event like that this winter (at least I am hoping so =). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: http://crazytopics.blogspot.com/2007/03/versoix-covered-with-ice.html Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Thanks all!
Glad your back doing better Mac! -RickG On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Mac Dearman li...@inetsouth.com wrote: Hey gang, Today is my first day back at work since the heart attack. I wanted to send out a THANKS for the thoughts, cards, flowers and prayers. I really appreciate all of you more than you know. It seems that I am going to be better than ever now that I have two stints and a balloon in the arteries of my heart J I was glad to get the report of zero damage to my ole' ticker from the heart attack and I am also glad to report that I am now a reformed smoker. There is something about this new incentive called life that has made quitting smoking after 36 years - - a lot easier. Thanks again crew - - y'all are a great group to be associated with! Sincerely, Mac Dearman WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Glad we don't have this ICE
Now we know they the Swiss invented ice skating! http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/bliceskates.htm -RickG On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: http://crazytopics.blogspot.com/2007/03/versoix-covered-with-ice.html Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?
BGP is on 42 routers. We have twice as many mikrotiks, but some won't get it because they don't need it (due to the nature of their function), and there are some we haven't had the spare time to convert away from static routes. We have BGP on our internet uplink too, but that's not MT, and it doesn't do dynamic routing with the MT network presently. It can do it, we just haven't felt compelled to tinker with that important role. Internal BGP is pretty light duty compared to Internet BGP; a few pages of routes compared to a quarter million routes. V3 MTs propogate routing changes very quickly; almost instantly. V2 MTs have a short delay for routing changes. BGP works on all paid or included license levels, which is a plus. We've also done BGP for about 8 years on our uplink with Ciscos, which has provided me with some initial skills. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:09:32AM -0500, Josh Luthman wrote: Would you mind sharing how many routers you have using BGP and Mikrotik? I've been told that BGP is only a majority successful. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:01 AM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote: We are using BGP internally on Mikrotik with good success instead of OSPF. I've never done OSPF on it, as my network isn't entirely star shaped like OSPF is said to be created for. There is a range of private BGP AS numbers for such applications. Each site's router gets an ASN and has peering connections to upstream and other connected sites. On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 05:23:33PM +0100, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: Hi Travis to be honest mikrotik routing is not working well, and we are far from being happy about the OSPF implementation: too many bugs and lost routes. So, I would like to move to something more robust. Mikrotik MPLS implementation looks more at experimental stage and I would not use it for any reason in any production network. Maybe I am wrong and it's really stable, so if somebody is using mikrotik-MPLS let us know it! Thank you. Mikrotik now supports MPLS. So any routerboard should work fine, depending on how much traffic you need to move. Travis Microserv Paolo Di Francesco wrote: Hi Nathan, it could be a solution, but: 1) the only product I found interesting it CISCO ME switch with MPLS. Any other suggestion welcome. 2) cost per site goes really high for the backbone. If we would like to implement MPLS in each site, it would cost us a fortune. 3) Still wondering about maturity or many MPLS implementations, not sure the brands that really work and the ones which does not. Suggestions welcome ;) P.S. are you using MPLS? Hello, MPLS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 9:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP? we are routed, but routed has other problems. So I was just wondering about switched... Thank you. If you have that many a routed network would be much simpler. Any ideas on the limit of stp devices, though? On 1/23/09, Paolo Di Francesco difrance...@teleinform.com wrote: Dear All I am wondering how many switches can be put together in a bridged environment (via radio-bridges) with the Rapid STP. Just curious because I did not find anywhere the maximum number and wondering if the backbone collapse after 10 or 100 or 1000 switches. Also wondering what do you advice, I know that not all the switches are the same... (thinking about HP for this application) Thank you in advance. -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Teleinform S.p.A. Sede Legale: Via Francesco Paolo Di Blasi 1, 90144 Palermo Unita' Operativa: Via Regione Siciliana 49, 90046 Monreale Tel: +39-091-6408576, +39-091-6404501 Fax: +39-091-6406200 http://www.wikitel.it http://www.teleinform.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?
Glad to see it works for you. I have heard a couple other success stories but Butch's (my Mikrotik prophet) suggestion is to use Cisco for BGP. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 1:06 PM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote: BGP is on 42 routers. We have twice as many mikrotiks, but some won't get it because they don't need it (due to the nature of their function), and there are some we haven't had the spare time to convert away from static routes. We have BGP on our internet uplink too, but that's not MT, and it doesn't do dynamic routing with the MT network presently. It can do it, we just haven't felt compelled to tinker with that important role. Internal BGP is pretty light duty compared to Internet BGP; a few pages of routes compared to a quarter million routes. V3 MTs propogate routing changes very quickly; almost instantly. V2 MTs have a short delay for routing changes. BGP works on all paid or included license levels, which is a plus. We've also done BGP for about 8 years on our uplink with Ciscos, which has provided me with some initial skills. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:09:32AM -0500, Josh Luthman wrote: Would you mind sharing how many routers you have using BGP and Mikrotik? I've been told that BGP is only a majority successful. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:01 AM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote: We are using BGP internally on Mikrotik with good success instead of OSPF. I've never done OSPF on it, as my network isn't entirely star shaped like OSPF is said to be created for. There is a range of private BGP AS numbers for such applications. Each site's router gets an ASN and has peering connections to upstream and other connected sites. On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 05:23:33PM +0100, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: Hi Travis to be honest mikrotik routing is not working well, and we are far from being happy about the OSPF implementation: too many bugs and lost routes. So, I would like to move to something more robust. Mikrotik MPLS implementation looks more at experimental stage and I would not use it for any reason in any production network. Maybe I am wrong and it's really stable, so if somebody is using mikrotik-MPLS let us know it! Thank you. Mikrotik now supports MPLS. So any routerboard should work fine, depending on how much traffic you need to move. Travis Microserv Paolo Di Francesco wrote: Hi Nathan, it could be a solution, but: 1) the only product I found interesting it CISCO ME switch with MPLS. Any other suggestion welcome. 2) cost per site goes really high for the backbone. If we would like to implement MPLS in each site, it would cost us a fortune. 3) Still wondering about maturity or many MPLS implementations, not sure the brands that really work and the ones which does not. Suggestions welcome ;) P.S. are you using MPLS? Hello, MPLS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 9:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP? we are routed, but routed has other problems. So I was just wondering about switched... Thank you. If you have that many a routed network would be much simpler. Any ideas on the limit of stp devices, though? On 1/23/09, Paolo Di Francesco difrance...@teleinform.com wrote: Dear All I am wondering how many switches can be put together in a bridged environment (via radio-bridges) with the Rapid STP. Just curious because I did not find anywhere the maximum number and wondering if the backbone collapse after 10 or 100 or 1000 switches. Also wondering what do you advice, I know that not all the switches are the same... (thinking about HP for this application) Thank you in advance. -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Teleinform S.p.A. Sede Legale: Via Francesco Paolo Di Blasi 1, 90144 Palermo Unita' Operativa: Via Regione Siciliana 49, 90046 Monreale Tel: +39-091-6408576, +39-091-6404501 Fax: +39-091-6406200 http://www.wikitel.it http://www.teleinform.com
Re: [WISPA] Thanks all!
Great to have you back! Don't go getting all nice and stuff on us now...too much of a shock to the system! :-) Jeff -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:08 AM To: 'WISPA General List'; 'Motorola Canopy User Group' Subject: [WISPA] Thanks all! Hey gang, Today is my first day back at work since the heart attack. I wanted to send out a THANKS for the thoughts, cards, flowers and prayers. I really appreciate all of you more than you know. It seems that I am going to be better than ever now that I have two stints and a balloon in the arteries of my heart J I was glad to get the report of zero damage to my ole' ticker from the heart attack and I am also glad to report that I am now a reformed smoker. There is something about this new incentive called life that has made quitting smoking after 36 years - - a lot easier. Thanks again crew - - y'all are a great group to be associated with! Sincerely, Mac Dearman WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Need recommendation for tripod or similar to weld atop water tank
Any suggestions? I'm mounting a cyclone 2.4ghz omni...needs to be on very top of tank. Thanks, -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 j...@boonlink.com www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail j...@boonlink.com, and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Need recommendation for tripod or similar to weld atop water tank
Hello, Earth Magnets and a tripod. We have had a tower like that for over 4 years now. Never a problem. Thanks From: motorola-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:motorola-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John McDowell Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 1:29 PM To: WISPA General List; Principal WISPA Member List; Motorola Canopy User Group Subject: [Motorola II] Need recommendation for tripod or similar to weld atop water tank Any suggestions? I'm mounting a cyclone 2.4ghz omni...needs to be on very top of tank. Thanks, -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 j...@boonlink.com www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail j...@boonlink.com, and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Need recommendation for tripod or similar to weld atop water tank
I've heard Earth Magnets are ridiculously strong, though I haven't used them myself. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Nathan Stooke nstooke...@wisperisp.comwrote: Hello, Earth Magnets and a tripod. We have had a tower like that for over 4 years now. Never a problem. Thanks From: motorola-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:motorola-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John McDowell Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 1:29 PM To: WISPA General List; Principal WISPA Member List; Motorola Canopy User Group Subject: [Motorola II] Need recommendation for tripod or similar to weld atop water tank Any suggestions? I'm mounting a cyclone 2.4ghz omni...needs to be on very top of tank. Thanks, -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 j...@boonlink.com www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail j...@boonlink.com, and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Need recommendation for tripod or similar to weld atop water tank
Can you provide a link for the magnets and tripod you used? On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Nathan Stooke nstooke...@wisperisp.comwrote: Hello, Earth Magnets and a tripod. We have had a tower like that for over 4 years now. Never a problem. Thanks From: motorola-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:motorola-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John McDowell Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 1:29 PM To: WISPA General List; Principal WISPA Member List; Motorola Canopy User Group Subject: [Motorola II] Need recommendation for tripod or similar to weld atop water tank Any suggestions? I'm mounting a cyclone 2.4ghz omni...needs to be on very top of tank. Thanks, -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 j...@boonlink.com www.boonlink.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Need recommendation for tripod or similar to weld atop water tank
Hello, Sorry, I cannot. We took it over from another company. I know the tripod mount was specific to the magnets. They were stuck to the tower and then a metal plate with about 1/4 inches edges sat on top and then that plate had a vertical piece for the tripod leg to bolt to. I did not feel right tying off to it, but I do know I could not move it when I tried to. Thanks -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Wallace Walcher Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 2:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Motorola II] Need recommendation for tripod or similar to weld atop water tank Can you provide a link for the magnets and tripod you used? On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Nathan Stooke nstooke...@wisperisp.comwrote: Hello, Earth Magnets and a tripod. We have had a tower like that for over 4 years now. Never a problem. Thanks From: motorola-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:motorola-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John McDowell Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 1:29 PM To: WISPA General List; Principal WISPA Member List; Motorola Canopy User Group Subject: [Motorola II] Need recommendation for tripod or similar to weld atop water tank Any suggestions? I'm mounting a cyclone 2.4ghz omni...needs to be on very top of tank. Thanks, -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 j...@boonlink.com www.boonlink.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Nanostation support, tips, etc.
We have about fifty NS5's in place. No more than 10 on any AP and all using the NS5 as the AP. The only issue I have had appears to be firmware related on the last group of 10 units we got at the end of the year. Carl at Steakwave and Mike Ford, at Ubiquiti, took care of the issue in a few minutes, with a phone call, a discussion of the issues, and a follow up e-mail from Mike. I've had one RMA direct to Ubiquiti a few months ago for an ethernet port issue. We run EWMA and normal 802 traffic, also 5MHz channel width. Nothing else special. I have a router behind the AP's so they are a bridge. Dave e...@wisp-router.com wrote: That is where you should RMA things to first. As well first place to get technical support after checking on their forums. Ourselves we have a dedicated support department to handle your questions. Just have invoice number or serial number handy when calling to speed up support questions. Eje Gustafsson CTO WISP-Router, Inc. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:40:13 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nanostation support, tips, etc. RMA to Ubiquiti? Wouldnt you RMA to the distributor you purchased it from? -RickG On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 1:20 AM, rabbtux rabbtux rabb...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone ever rma a Nanostation? Ubiquity good to work with? On 1/25/09, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Just remember to use Eje's POE calculator first! :) On 1/26/09, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Pretty happy with the dozen or so we have out there. No issues at all other than one on a 350' run of cat5 that needed at 24V power supply to be stable. Forrest pulled one apart and said the power supply max is around 18V so use caution on overpowering. __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 8:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nanostation support, tips, etc. Yes, it does. runs over 200ft have been unreliable with the 12VDC supply. Needing power cycling 2-3 times a day. Josh Luthman wrote: I don't believe you'll lose voltage over a 150 ft line when you're only pulling an amp or two, but I could be wrong. Have you experienced something that proves me wrong? On 1/25/09, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net mailto:the...@wmwisp.net wrote: Use a hose clamp, instead of the included zip ties, to mount outdoors. If network cable is longer than 150ft, use an 18VDC power supply instead of the included 12VDC supply. If talking to an older 'B' only AP, set the radios to 'B' only mode. Adaptive antenna mode is not worth using. Make sure to update units to 3.x.x firmware. Many are still shipping with 2.1.x. All this is for the NS2 units. I've never used the NS5's. Good support, via their fourm. Haven't had and DOA's or needed to RMA any of these yet. rabbtux rabbtux wrote: We are considering using these units for 2 and 5 GHz Cpe. What is your experience with ubiquiti support, failure rates, and any deployment tips? I sure like what we see in our evaluation. Thanks in advance, Marshall WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Sent from my mobile device WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Nanostation support, tips, etc.
Is anyone using the NS2 or NS5 where the AP's are a mesh network, or is everyone using AP's with backhauls? I want to try a mesh network with the NS2. It looks like the firmware options are open-mesh or something proprietary such as http://kalpeshwireless.com/overview.htm. I've contacted Kalpesh to see if the firmware is available separately and they haven't responded. Greg On Jan 26, 2009, at 5:01 PM, David Hulsebus wrote: We have about fifty NS5's in place. No more than 10 on any AP and all using the NS5 as the AP. The only issue I have had appears to be firmware related on the last group of 10 units we got at the end of the year. Carl at Steakwave and Mike Ford, at Ubiquiti, took care of the issue in a few minutes, with a phone call, a discussion of the issues, and a follow up e-mail from Mike. I've had one RMA direct to Ubiquiti a few months ago for an ethernet port issue. We run EWMA and normal 802 traffic, also 5MHz channel width. Nothing else special. I have a router behind the AP's so they are a bridge. Dave e...@wisp-router.com wrote: That is where you should RMA things to first. As well first place to get technical support after checking on their forums. Ourselves we have a dedicated support department to handle your questions. Just have invoice number or serial number handy when calling to speed up support questions. Eje Gustafsson CTO WISP-Router, Inc. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:40:13 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nanostation support, tips, etc. RMA to Ubiquiti? Wouldnt you RMA to the distributor you purchased it from? -RickG On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 1:20 AM, rabbtux rabbtux rabb...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone ever rma a Nanostation? Ubiquity good to work with? On 1/25/09, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Just remember to use Eje's POE calculator first! :) On 1/26/09, Jerry Richardson jrichard...@aircloud.com wrote: Pretty happy with the dozen or so we have out there. No issues at all other than one on a 350' run of cat5 that needed at 24V power supply to be stable. Forrest pulled one apart and said the power supply max is around 18V so use caution on overpowering. __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 8:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nanostation support, tips, etc. Yes, it does. runs over 200ft have been unreliable with the 12VDC supply. Needing power cycling 2-3 times a day. Josh Luthman wrote: I don't believe you'll lose voltage over a 150 ft line when you're only pulling an amp or two, but I could be wrong. Have you experienced something that proves me wrong? On 1/25/09, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net mailto:the...@wmwisp.net wrote: Use a hose clamp, instead of the included zip ties, to mount outdoors. If network cable is longer than 150ft, use an 18VDC power supply instead of the included 12VDC supply. If talking to an older 'B' only AP, set the radios to 'B' only mode. Adaptive antenna mode is not worth using. Make sure to update units to 3.x.x firmware. Many are still shipping with 2.1.x. All this is for the NS2 units. I've never used the NS5's. Good support, via their fourm. Haven't had and DOA's or needed to RMA any of these yet. rabbtux rabbtux wrote: We are considering using these units for 2 and 5 GHz Cpe. What is your experience with ubiquiti support, failure rates, and any deployment tips? I sure like what we see in our evaluation. Thanks in advance, Marshall WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?
Well, I can't comment on using BGP on Mikrotik. And there is not a shortage of testimonials for reason to use Cisco Switches/Routers. But I will say, if someone choses not to use Mikrotik for BGP, that does not mean that CISCO is the answer for BGP. Linux has always outperformed Cisco with BGP. Our implentations of Quagga 99.10 have worked flawlessly for our BGP applications. It offers... More RAM, More CPU cycles, and that translates to quicker table updates, unlimited filter/routemap rules, more BGP sessions per machine, etc. The one router on my network that must be a Linux machine, is my Core External BGP servers. Internal in the network, its less important, because the load is much less. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP? Glad to see it works for you. I have heard a couple other success stories but Butch's (my Mikrotik prophet) suggestion is to use Cisco for BGP. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 1:06 PM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote: BGP is on 42 routers. We have twice as many mikrotiks, but some won't get it because they don't need it (due to the nature of their function), and there are some we haven't had the spare time to convert away from static routes. We have BGP on our internet uplink too, but that's not MT, and it doesn't do dynamic routing with the MT network presently. It can do it, we just haven't felt compelled to tinker with that important role. Internal BGP is pretty light duty compared to Internet BGP; a few pages of routes compared to a quarter million routes. V3 MTs propogate routing changes very quickly; almost instantly. V2 MTs have a short delay for routing changes. BGP works on all paid or included license levels, which is a plus. We've also done BGP for about 8 years on our uplink with Ciscos, which has provided me with some initial skills. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:09:32AM -0500, Josh Luthman wrote: Would you mind sharing how many routers you have using BGP and Mikrotik? I've been told that BGP is only a majority successful. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:01 AM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote: We are using BGP internally on Mikrotik with good success instead of OSPF. I've never done OSPF on it, as my network isn't entirely star shaped like OSPF is said to be created for. There is a range of private BGP AS numbers for such applications. Each site's router gets an ASN and has peering connections to upstream and other connected sites. On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 05:23:33PM +0100, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: Hi Travis to be honest mikrotik routing is not working well, and we are far from being happy about the OSPF implementation: too many bugs and lost routes. So, I would like to move to something more robust. Mikrotik MPLS implementation looks more at experimental stage and I would not use it for any reason in any production network. Maybe I am wrong and it's really stable, so if somebody is using mikrotik-MPLS let us know it! Thank you. Mikrotik now supports MPLS. So any routerboard should work fine, depending on how much traffic you need to move. Travis Microserv Paolo Di Francesco wrote: Hi Nathan, it could be a solution, but: 1) the only product I found interesting it CISCO ME switch with MPLS. Any other suggestion welcome. 2) cost per site goes really high for the backbone. If we would like to implement MPLS in each site, it would cost us a fortune. 3) Still wondering about maturity or many MPLS implementations, not sure the brands that really work and the ones which does not. Suggestions welcome ;) P.S. are you using MPLS? Hello, MPLS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paolo Di Francesco Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 9:58 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP? we are routed, but routed has other problems. So I was just wondering about switched... Thank you. If you have that many a routed network would be much simpler. Any ideas on the limit of stp devices, though? On
Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?
Absolutely. Some interesting numbers using Vyatta (Linux based open-source routing platform). BGP Performance evaluation against a Cisco 7204 VXR. http://www.vyatta.com/downloads/whitepapers/Tolly208289VyattaBGPPerfMar2008.pdf Ian Tom DeReggi wrote: Well, I can't comment on using BGP on Mikrotik. And there is not a shortage of testimonials for reason to use Cisco Switches/Routers. But I will say, if someone choses not to use Mikrotik for BGP, that does not mean that CISCO is the answer for BGP. Linux has always outperformed Cisco with BGP. Our implentations of Quagga 99.10 have worked flawlessly for our BGP applications. It offers... More RAM, More CPU cycles, and that translates to quicker table updates, unlimited filter/routemap rules, more BGP sessions per machine, etc. The one router on my network that must be a Linux machine, is my Core External BGP servers. Internal in the network, its less important, because the load is much less. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP? Glad to see it works for you. I have heard a couple other success stories but Butch's (my Mikrotik prophet) suggestion is to use Cisco for BGP. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 1:06 PM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote: BGP is on 42 routers. We have twice as many mikrotiks, but some won't get it because they don't need it (due to the nature of their function), and there are some we haven't had the spare time to convert away from static routes. We have BGP on our internet uplink too, but that's not MT, and it doesn't do dynamic routing with the MT network presently. It can do it, we just haven't felt compelled to tinker with that important role. Internal BGP is pretty light duty compared to Internet BGP; a few pages of routes compared to a quarter million routes. V3 MTs propogate routing changes very quickly; almost instantly. V2 MTs have a short delay for routing changes. BGP works on all paid or included license levels, which is a plus. We've also done BGP for about 8 years on our uplink with Ciscos, which has provided me with some initial skills. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:09:32AM -0500, Josh Luthman wrote: Would you mind sharing how many routers you have using BGP and Mikrotik? I've been told that BGP is only a majority successful. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 11:01 AM, jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com wrote: We are using BGP internally on Mikrotik with good success instead of OSPF. I've never done OSPF on it, as my network isn't entirely star shaped like OSPF is said to be created for. There is a range of private BGP AS numbers for such applications. Each site's router gets an ASN and has peering connections to upstream and other connected sites. On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 05:23:33PM +0100, Paolo Di Francesco wrote: Hi Travis to be honest mikrotik routing is not working well, and we are far from being happy about the OSPF implementation: too many bugs and lost routes. So, I would like to move to something more robust. Mikrotik MPLS implementation looks more at experimental stage and I would not use it for any reason in any production network. Maybe I am wrong and it's really stable, so if somebody is using mikrotik-MPLS let us know it! Thank you. Mikrotik now supports MPLS. So any routerboard should work fine, depending on how much traffic you need to move. Travis Microserv Paolo Di Francesco wrote: Hi Nathan, it could be a solution, but: 1) the only product I found interesting it CISCO ME switch with MPLS. Any other suggestion welcome. 2) cost per site goes really high for the backbone. If we would like to implement MPLS in each site, it would cost us a fortune. 3) Still wondering about maturity or many MPLS implementations, not sure the brands that really work and the ones which does not. Suggestions welcome ;) P.S. are you using MPLS? Hello, MPLS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto: wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of
Re: [WISPA] Thanks all!
On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 10:07 -0600, Mac Dearman wrote: Today is my first day back at work since the heart attack. I wanted to send out a THANKS for the thoughts, cards, flowers and prayers. I really appreciate all of you more than you know. I'm glad to see you're back on your feet! Let me know if there's anything I can do to assist. It seems that I am going to be better than ever now that I have two stints and a balloon in the arteries of my heart J I was glad to get the report of zero damage to my ole' ticker from the heart attack and I am also glad to report that I am now a reformed smoker. There is something about this new incentive called life that has made quitting smoking after 36 years - - a lot easier. Glad to hear there was no damage! Awesome news! As for the quite smoking incentive, I hope it doesn't take that much for some others (me included). I just have to quit liking it. :-( -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] How many switches can do RSTP?
On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 13:11 -0500, Josh Luthman wrote: Glad to see it works for you. I have heard a couple other success stories but Butch's (my Mikrotik prophet) suggestion is to use Cisco for BGP. Cisco or ImageStream. ImageStream is cheaper and offers more functionality (besides just BGP, I mean). Perhaps flexibility is a better word than functionality in that last sentence, though both are true. Either way, I just don't recommend MT as a BGP peer for external. I have a few customers using it, but their needs are fairly simple as BGP goes. For complex BGP implementations, I'd recommend ImageStream or Cisco (in that order). -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
