Re: [WISPA] OMG...

2009-01-30 Thread David E. Smith
rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: Some of the financial and economic advisors I read from time to time are in deadly serious mode and I believe them. They're saying that unless all this debt and spending is stopped and stopped NOW, we're going to face a currency collapse as our currency

[WISPA] Free Coverage maps? --- An idea

2009-01-30 Thread Brian Webster
What if WISPA were to secure a grant for say $300,000 as part of the stimulus package? For that money I would do proper RF mapping as a one shot deal for every WISP who wanted to in the next year. I would also build a proper map server with a database that indicates which areas are covered by

Re: [WISPA] Free Coverage maps? --- An idea

2009-01-30 Thread Tom DeReggi
Brian, Connected Nation got $5million twice. Why shouldn't WISPs and Webster Wireless mapping? There is a huge advantage to apply for the grant as a non-profit, and then contracting it out to a commercial company like wireless mapping, or joint application. There are two steps... Identifying

Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Free Coverage maps? --- An idea

2009-01-30 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
That works for me... Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless

Re: [WISPA] OMG...

2009-01-30 Thread RickG
But...IF it collapses, your $200k is worthless :) Also, you didnt say what time frame for the collapse to happen. Just my silly obsevation :) -RickG On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:59 AM, Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com wrote: Tell ya what Mark. I'll bet you $10,000 the collapse won't happen.

Re: [WISPA] OMG...

2009-01-30 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
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[WISPA] Alvarion

2009-01-30 Thread Al Stewart
Does anyone have any experience with Alvarion wireless products? Al WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion

2009-01-30 Thread Cameron Kilton
Yes. We've been using them sine they were BreezeCom back in 97. If you have some questions, feel free to contact me off-list. -Cameron -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Al Stewart Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 12:15 PM

Re: [WISPA] OMG...

2009-01-30 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
MY Apologies... Replied back to wrong email :) Faisal Imtiaz -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 12:08 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] OMG... Here is what it

Re: [WISPA] OMG...

2009-01-30 Thread Randy Cosby
Had me going for a minute... thought this was some obscure joke, something to do with the end of the (economic) world. Police.. Guns.. Masks.. I just didn't get it :) Randy Faisal Imtiaz wrote: MY Apologies... Replied back to wrong email :) Faisal Imtiaz -Original Message-

Re: [WISPA] OMG...

2009-01-30 Thread Chuck Bartosch
On Jan 30, 2009, at 12:03 PM, RickG wrote: But...IF it collapses, your $200k is worthless :) That's what I meant by tails I win, heads you lose ;-). Chuck Also, you didnt say what time frame for the collapse to happen. Just my silly obsevation :) -RickG On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 1:59 AM,

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion

2009-01-30 Thread Chuck Bartosch
Similarly, we use Alvarion. Feel free to contact me also if Cameron doesn't have an answer for you. Chuck On Jan 30, 2009, at 12:25 PM, Cameron Kilton wrote: Yes. We've been using them sine they were BreezeCom back in 97. If you have some questions, feel free to contact me off-list.

Re: [WISPA] Lobbying Donations So Far

2009-01-30 Thread jp
Crossroads got RUS money in my area, even though they overlap various providers. We had filed in response to their public notice too. I didn't push it as they are now contracted to be a tenant on one of my towers if they actually deploy. On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 05:45:22PM -0600, Scottie Arnett

Re: [WISPA] Updated National WISP Map

2009-01-30 Thread jp
I'm not sure of the process for updating the map. Midcoast Internet is what I presume to be the circle over Rockland ME. We actually cover a much bigger area. We go from Belfast at the north, SE to harborside, south over the ocean to Matinicus, west over the ocean to Monhegan, NW to bath, NE

Re: [WISPA] OMG...

2009-01-30 Thread reader
Hell no. I won't take free money without strings. I have to sleep at night. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 9:13 PM Subject:

Re: [WISPA] OMG...

2009-01-30 Thread reader
How could it be off-topic? This list is soliciting money to lobby for pork barrell spending. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: David E. Smith d...@mvn.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009

Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] [Board] Lobbying Fund Drive Update

2009-01-30 Thread Rick Harnish
Donations slowed down today. I really want everyone to do some soul searching over the weekend. We need more assistance from everyone on this fundraising project. Ask not what WISPA can do for you, but what can I do for WISPA! Ok, that was corny, but it has been a long week J Less than 10% of

Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] [Board] Lobbying Fund Drive Update

2009-01-30 Thread Travis Johnson
Also, one more quick thing it would be helpful if you would post the Paypal address and mailing address at the bottom of every one of your update emails... to make it easier for people. You could even post a direct link to the Paypal account inside your email. :) Travis Microserv Rick

Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] [Board] Lobbying Fund Drive Update

2009-01-30 Thread J. Vogel
Travis Johnson wrote: Also, one more quick thing it would be helpful if you would post the Paypal address and mailing address at the bottom of every one of your update emails... to make it easier for people. You could even post a direct link to the Paypal account inside your email. :)

Re: [WISPA] OT: UPS Connector

2009-01-30 Thread Matt
Digi-key should have it http://www.digi-key.com/ We have an account with digikey but thumbing through there huge catalog I have not found anything that looks like it. Do you know what this connector is called? Thanks. Matt I have a UPS with an external battery connector. Apparently the

Re: [WISPA] OMG...

2009-01-30 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Here's the deal. You can't stop the spending. You can't. All we can do is take the spending in a direction that helps the most people and is less wasteful. There are two options. Wasteful spending with benefits and wasteful spending with no benefits. Getting rid of wasteful spending is not an

Re: [WISPA] OT: UPS Connector

2009-01-30 Thread John Valenti
Matt, Did you look on ebay, etc for a dead cabinet? It sort of looks like a liebert one, but the manual I have for their current ones shows a 5 pin connector. -John On Jan 30, 2009, at 4:00 PM, Matt wrote: I have a UPS with an external battery connector. Apparently the 72 volt battery packs

Re: [WISPA] OMG...

2009-01-30 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
I'll be personally lobbying AGAINST the porkbarrle bill. Giving more money to the liars, cheats, and thieves that trashed consumer (stock market investors and purchasers) confidence in the first place isn't going to help anyone. In fact it's likely to make people hold on to their money even

Re: [WISPA] OMG...

2009-01-30 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Yeah, in a cold house on an old worn out mattress. While your competitors eat caviar and stay warm with $500/hour hookers. It's not free money Mark. But our kids are somehow going to have to pay it back someday. Are you going to leave them in poverty when that happens? Or are you going to

Re: [WISPA] Alvarion

2009-01-30 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
I have some on the network. So far I like my Alvarion gear. It's over prices but it's also rock solid. Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com

Re: [WISPA] OT: UPS Connector

2009-01-30 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
Open it up and solder on a new connector Maybe one like this:

Re: [WISPA] OT: UPS Connector

2009-01-30 Thread Matt
Did you look on ebay, etc for a dead cabinet? It sort of looks like a liebert one, but the manual I have for their current ones shows a 5 pin connector. Its a su3000xl UPS but the battery packs I find on ebay have a different connector. I ordered 3 battery packs for the unit new 2 months

Re: [WISPA] Bad install days

2009-01-30 Thread Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181
We use mainly indoor cat 5. When the temp drops much below 20* the insulation gets pretty hard. It'll more around quite a bit but a sharp bend will sometimes cause it to break. When it's too windy I worry about the ladder getting blown over (that's happened more than once). If it's foggy

Re: [WISPA] OT: UPS Connector

2009-01-30 Thread Patrick Shoemaker
Look really closely at the connector and see if you can see the manufacturer name printed in the connector housing. Then you can start searching for it through Digikey, Mouser, etc. Mouser's web search is so much easier to use than Digikey's. Matt wrote: Did you look on ebay, etc for a dead

[WISPA] rack mountable 48V injector for non 802.3af compliant devices

2009-01-30 Thread Rogelio
I've got a situation where I have a lot of POE access points that need Hyperlink injectors because the devices draw more power than regular 802.3af compliant devices. e.g. this doodad Hyperlink PS4820-POE (48...@20w) http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=20900 I don't want to buy a ton of these

Re: [WISPA] rack mountable 48V injector for non 802.3af compliant devices

2009-01-30 Thread John McDowell
How many? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 30, 2009, at 8:38 PM, Rogelio scubac...@gmail.com wrote: I've got a situation where I have a lot of POE access points that need Hyperlink injectors because the devices draw more power than regular 802.3af compliant devices. e.g. this doodad Hyperlink

Re: [WISPA] OMG...

2009-01-30 Thread RickG
Ditto on this! What connection speed to the net can we get on the moon? -RickG On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: I'll be personally lobbying AGAINST the porkbarrle bill. Giving more money to the liars, cheats, and thieves that

Re: [WISPA] OMG...

2009-01-30 Thread eje
Signal loss should be pretty low. Sure we could easily do 80GHz so need some 80Ghz ptmp radios so we can get a few hundred mbit each ;) Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 23:06:19 To: WISPA General