In many ways this is certainly true. Look at the Roman water systems and
roads.
Where are the Romans now?
Oh, never mind.
lol
marlon
- Original Message -
From: Clint Ricker cric...@kentnis.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 8:26 PM
Subject:
http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/video.html
come join me.
marlon
WISPA Wants You! Join today!
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Look at http://www.sherweb.com/hosted-exchange it's who I am currently using
for Hosted exchange. They do hosting as well. Never used them for that.
Network Solutions for hosting. I have tried 4 various services for hosting and
the speed at Network solutions is worth the price. Sherweb
I am there, via web that is... ;)
Victoria
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:25 AM
To: legislat...@wispa.org
Cc: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] only 20 people on the
Not really related to WISPs here in the US, but still interesting to
those who are following 4G and post 4G wireless technologies
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/090308121655.htm
***
I'm going to fall asleep watching this...
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 AM
To: legislat...@wispa.org
Cc: WISPA General
Not me, this is getting a bit scary.
V
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:38 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia
Scary? Care to expand upon that for those of us not in attendance?
Chris
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Lists
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the
They are asking us to partner with the State, but it is under debate.
V
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of chris cooper
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:44 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on
Well, I don't like what they're saying, but they are quite dry.
Maybe I demand more stimulation.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Lists li...@stlbroadband.com
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:40 AM
More with a government or non profit agency of some kind.
I agree though, so far the best speakers are pushing for private public
partnerships. With public being the main partner.
marlon
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From: Lists li...@stlbroadband.com
To: ccoo...@intelliwave.com; 'WISPA
460 viewers now
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-Original Message-
From: chris cooper ccoo...@intelliwave.com
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 07:43:56
To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the
ntiameetingstoday
Scary? Care to
Yeah. What do you make of this Sascha guy?
He seems like one of the more reasonable people there and then he
throws something in that makes me think he is hinting at GovMuniWifi
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
wrote:
More with a government or non profit
Could this be as simple as a local college, school, or something else?
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:50 AM
To: WISPA
We have had an on again/off again relationship with New America Foundation.
Mostly we agree with them.
They lean far more to locally built non profit or consumer created networks
than commercial ones.
marlon
- Original Message -
From: Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net
To: WISPA General List
How does one ask questions via the webcast?
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
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From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 AM
To: legislat...@wispa.org
Cc: WISPA
I don't know. I've not been able to find that!
I wonder if that was a slip up and he meant to say something else?
marlon
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From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA]
Call 888.566.0969 .passcode1234
Sent via BlackBerry by ATT
-Original Message-
From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 07:55:44
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia
meetingstoday
Tom DeReggi is speaking now.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of a...@charlesstreetpartners.com
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 12:00 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for
Yes on Form 477! ;)
V
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:00 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the
ntiameetingstoday
I
That transcript generator is horrible.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 AM
To: legislat...@wispa.org
Cc: WISPA General
Yeah, it's a court stenographer. That's a tough job, particularly on tech
stuff.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:26 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20
I was ticked that Sasha rebutted my remarks regarding the 477 form but I did
call back in and have on public record that we want the 477 form to be a
criteria since it means we have been playing by the rules! And it will be
too much of a bear to have thousands of apps without any prequels at all.
Good job!
I submitted the question too, maybe if there is a big showing of support
that will help.
Thanks,
Victoria Proffer
CEO
StLouisBroadband.com
MissouriRuralWireless.com
314.974.5600
SBA Certified WOSB
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
Link to public comments is on the title page, not page with video.
http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/ Submit Public Comments link
Don Renner
NetsurfUSA, Inc.
812-936-4514
dren...@netsurfusa.net
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
Are the other meetings today work watching?
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 AM
To: legislat...@wispa.org
Cc: WISPA
I am on one now regarding coordination between NTIA and RUS. Then at
2:45 is Innovative Programs
Martha Huizenga
DC Access, LLC
202-546-5898
*/Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/
Connecting the Capitol Hill Community
/*
Mike Hammett wrote:
Are the other meetings today work watching?
Thanks for the humor, Marlon!
The romans infested my network last night.
To make room for a new backhaul and some other stuff, we changed out our
largest site last night - everything new and also containing all new IP's
and routing. Unfortunately, I had accidently put a routing loop in the
Coming across complaining about lawsuits, the local governments, the telcos,
etc. is not a good way, in my humble opinion, to come across and
successfully make policy in what we should be doing to make rules for
grants. I trust when WISPA represents us on Thursday we come across better
then the
rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:
This after renumbering and re-routing about 100 clients.So, then, I had
to find a way to revert everyone bak to the OLD provider All that was
on the OLD hardware. I got done (gave up) after getting most of the
clients working about 11 pm. Worked
I do not think that these folks have a cure as to what to do. listening to this
is putting me to sleep
--- On Mon, 3/16/09, Denise Hamilton den...@rapidsys.com wrote:
From: Denise Hamilton den...@rapidsys.com
Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream
forthentiameetingstoday
We had a landline number with Verizon ported to a cellphone with Verizon
Wireless. Now we are trying to port the number to Cablevision that provides
triple play. We are being told that they can't port a cell number because it
belongs to the cell company. I told them the whole story how it came
I have heard of a situation when a cable line can't be ported to Sprint
or ATT because it has to be ported back to SBC or the telco first. I
think this has to do with Digital from the Cable company. I wonder if
this is the same situation?
I don't believe that this really is the situation, but
Pretty rare to have a number that can't be ported. Keep pressing the issue
with your new provider and the losing carrier. Eventually you'll get it
ported.
Best,
Brad
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of
We probably need to get our own ip addys now. We're using 4 class c's and
will need more pretty soon in one location.
Anyone know a consultant that can help with the application process?
marlon
WISPA Wants You!
You dont need that - just go to their website and you can call too - its
easy.
Scott Carullo
Brevard Wireless
321-205-1100 x102
Original Message
From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 2:37 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
agreed
When we had specific questions, we called ARIN. Got someone right away that
new what they were talking about
Easier than Form 477 for us
Scott
- Original Message -
From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, March 16,
LOL!!!
That's a very sharp and good point. Complaints are one thing, but
naked whining about past employers will never cut it :)
And you're very right... There's always a way to promote positively what
you're for, even if you're advocating undoing everything the people you're
talking
no, don't have my own space yet.
The renumbering isn't normally too bad. I did that not long ago, to
shuffle around some subnets and make space for more clients. Painlessly
and nobody noticed. However, I have ONE access point that's legacy with
clients back from my startup time and it
oh man, we're STILL working on the 477. Isn't that an absolute disaster?
We don't ever TRACK most of what they want.
sigh
I'm going to have to figure out how to build a query in our access files
that will export the data in a file for the fcc. Let them sort all of the
crap out.
My poor
Yeah, it took me about 4 or 5 hours and we are a small WISP. I couldn't
bear lying about my census tracts. The biggest problem is that the
system adds them all up for you and then they don't give you good info
about which one might be wrong. It's really a nightmare. I had 43 census
tracts for
My porting guru tells me that we could port that number. But this is not a
sales pitch -- if we can do it, others can do it. Someone must be giving
you bad information, or the runaround on the port.
Ron
-Original Message-
From: lakel...@gbcx.net [mailto:lakel...@gbcx.net]
Sent:
If you have a router in front of them create a src nat and dst nat rule for
them then you can take it easy or not bother do the truck roll and just do it
if you want in the area of one of the clients.
Very easy to do with something like a MikroTik, StarOS or Imagestream router.
/Eje
Sent via
Some origination carriers can, others can't. Depends on the exchange.
On 3/16/09, Ron Harden rhar...@voxcorp.net wrote:
My porting guru tells me that we could port that number. But this is not a
sales pitch -- if we can do it, others can do it. Someone must be giving
you bad information, or
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Denise Hamilton den...@rapidsys.com wrote:
Coming across complaining about lawsuits, the local governments, the telcos,
etc. is not a good way, in my humble opinion, to come across and
successfully make policy in what we should be doing to make rules for
John,
Sasha did not go on a rant per say but would make a disparaging remark with
his other comments. When I mentioned that a good matrix to start for the
prerequisites on getting an grant application submitted would be submittal
of the 477 form he mentioned how all of that data is not very good
Does anyone have a link to any other transcript copies other than what's
available at NTIA?
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Denise Hamilton
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 4:22 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re:
roflol
We had almost 7000 square miles of coverage to deal with. I don't know how
many census tracts we had but there were roughly a dozen zip codes before.
Wanna know the best part? We had people in census tracts that hit THREE
different zip codes!
Our total time is much closer to 50 hours
You should submit something to the FCC in comments. I am pretty sure on
their web site it says the average will be 5 hours or something like
that. :-)
Martha Huizenga
DC Access, LLC
202-546-5898
*/Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/
Connecting the Capitol Hill Community
/*
Marlon K.
Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
We had almost 7000 square miles of coverage to deal with. I don't know how
many census tracts we had but there were roughly a dozen zip codes before.
We went from about twenty-five ZIPs to.. about twenty-five census
tracts. There was basically no correlation between
Did you guys end up creating a CSV file to upload, or do it by hand, by
tract?
David E. Smith wrote:
Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
We had almost 7000 square miles of coverage to deal with. I don't know how
many census tracts we had but there were roughly a dozen zip codes before.
I'm sure the FCC guys really appreciate all that free labor that's being
done for them. Any bets they get up in front of Congress and praise you
for doing it? Or, do you suppose they'll take the credit?
Maybe a good stiff tax hike would make you feel better?
All I have found so far is:
http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/meetings.html
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of chris cooper
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 4:33 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20
By hand. But we're going to see if we can set up access to give us the
right csv data. We'll have to add several new fields and create (like we
did for the current silly form) speed classifications for many of our
customers.
The REALLY silly part for us? Most of our business customers buy
We had to deal with 38 records and 22 census tracts.
marlon
- Original Message -
From: David E. Smith d...@mvn.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 1:55 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WAS: speaking of ARIN now 477
Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
We had almost
With the information that Brian Webster generated for us, we did the filing
in 5 minutes. I highly recommend if you are getting close to crunch time
and are looking up tract data to give him a shot on this. Best $100 I ever
spent.
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
About the only US numbers that Can't be ported are the so called AAA DID's
that the paging companies use
Aaron D. Osgood
Streamline Solutions L.L.C
P.O. Box 6115
Falmouth, ME 04105
TEL: 207-781-5561
FAX: 207-781-8067
MOBILE: 207-831-5829
PAGE: 2078315...@vtext.com
AOLIM: OzCom1
ICQ: 206889374
Randy Cosby wrote:
Did you guys end up creating a CSV file to upload, or do it by hand, by
tract?
I ended up doing the CSV thing. I had to correlate our billing system,
our in-house IP management system, and two spreadsheets, to get all
their requested data (and I'm still not confident it's
Does a Cisco 2955 have a GUI interface. Does it have a read (look) only login
option?
Tnx
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
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Thanks to all
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
-Original Message-
From: Aaron D. Osgood aosg...@streamline-solutions.net
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:39:22
To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT Number Porting Question
About the only US numbers that
I did ours by hand. I had the customers in a spreadsheet, by address and
speed. Then I had to go through the addresses to make sure that they
were correct. Some of our customers bill to an address that is not their
home address, so I had to change it. Then I sorted by Zip and went
through with
Right on the FCC's site was a link to an address lookup utility.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Mark McElvy mmce...@accubak.com
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:52 PM
To: WISPA General List
Need descent 2mb/s symmetrical package or so for this address:
31812 Rancho Amigos RD
Bonsall CA 92003
Please contact off list if you have any service, thanks.
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Yeah, it is the opposite in many rural states. I can name one state that has
2 census tracts and 7 zip codes.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
- Original Message -
From: Martha Huizenga mar...@dcaccess.net
To: WISPA General List
I agree, but did you check the data?
PO Boxes don't convert. It just left them blank.
I had one area where 50% of the addresses came back in the wrong
county. I don't think that was Brian's fault at all, but the lookup
engine just missed.
Some others where we had to massage the data to get the
Denise,
Great Job, getting another WISP comment on the record!
Form 477 was an important one to get in.
I will comment in more detail on the member's list.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
- Original Message -
From: Denise Hamilton
Its has a gui tool you need to download ...
Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of lakel...@gbcx.net
Sent: Monday,
The 23 page instruction doc shows Estimated Average Burden Hours per
Response: 72 hours I have between 20 and 30 hours on mine. Census tracts
about double the number of zip codes, but yes, we'll keep the data, start
tracking it on new customers and use the csv option next time
On Mon, Mar
I fall just on the edge of one. I wanted to know what others have
experienced in this regard.
Thanks,
Pat
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I think it took me about four hours to do my 33 households. (to
complete entire 477)
This was converting six zip codes into seven census tracts, so I still
don't see much advantage to the switch.
So the census tracts might change in 2012? Dang! So should we be
saving the LAT/LON of the
Do we know any more than we did yesterday?
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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No, because panelists spoke, not NTIA policy makers.
What we do know is we have a lot of work todo, to fight individuals
advocating for states.
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
- Original Message -
From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net
To:
Steve Smith got a good summary of last weeks session in DC. Steve , if you're
out there can you get a summary of todays activities and share it with the
group .???
Many thanks , Al Schneider
-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
Depends on the frequency. 3-9 miles links we've seen 55-60Mbps on a
40MHz channel w/5.4GHz. However, because the radio has to change
frequencies due to DFS, it's not consistent.
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 9:56 PM, lakel...@gbcx.net wrote:
What are you guys seeing with this unit. Looking to
PostPath is a drop in replacement for Exchange that runs on Linux. Cisco
bought PostPath, so it will be interesting to see what happens in the
future.
http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/2008/corp_091808.html
John
Josh Luthman wrote:
Google is free.
Exchange I know costs a copy of Windows 2003
What is the due date for that form?
Cliff Olle wrote:
With the information that Brian Webster generated for us, we did the filing
in 5 minutes. I highly recommend if you are getting close to crunch time
and are looking up tract data to give him a shot on this. Best $100 I ever
spent.
If you are big enough, or if you are multihomed you can get PI space
John
David E. Smith wrote:
rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:
This after renumbering and re-routing about 100 clients.So, then, I had
to find a way to revert everyone bak to the OLD provider All that was
If you are multihomed you need to justify a /22 ( 4 Class C's) and if
you are not, then you will need to justify a /20 ( 16 class C's)
John
Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
We probably need to get our own ip addys now. We're using 4 class c's and
will need more pretty soon in one location.
If you're asking about form 477 the due date is in 22 minutes.
http://www.fcc.gov/form477/
JUST got ours in 20 min ago. Shew!!! Only took 2 guys 7 hours straight
to churn the data into FCC acceptabledata. I'll keep my comments to
myself on this.
Dylan
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
I need to retract a comment that I made unclearly.
What we do know is we have a lot of work todo, to fight individuals
advocating for states.
I did not mean that we should fight states. I think it is important that
we continue to work with our States, to improve our communication, and
discuss
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