Re: [WISPA] Using Tranzeo as CPE for rural community
I would second what Steve has said as well, but my questino to you would be that if you have all other vendor pieces figured out, why not stay with your AP vendor for your CPE's? Depending on AP's, you might actually HAVE to stay with the same vendor. I would hop you have considered that as well. We have a second network that we inherited from a company we merged with that would supposedly support "generic" CPE's. Well, it does, but it takes some "workarounds" to make it work like we want. My personal experience with Tranzeo is mixed. I have a few Tranzeo AP's, and some CPE's, that have been in the air for about 4 years that I never have to touch. But, I went through a time about 2.5 years ago when Tranzeo evidently had a bad run of CPE's or something and it burned me on them. I got some Deliberant gear in and wouldn't change it for the world. Deliberant, at least at that time, offered better features, better support, and a better price. Not sure how they compare now though, but I think the situation is about the same. Only thing I have negative on Deliberant radios is that their interface is still a bit slow, but I really think they're making improvements over what it was at one time. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rogelio Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 1:14 PM To: Steve Barnes Cc: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Using Tranzeo as CPE for rural community Thanks, Steve. Your advice is helpful. (I actually already have all of the other vendor pieces. I am now just looking for CPE devices to put on the roofs of the houses that subscribe.) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Using Tranzeo as CPE for rural community
Definitely good info Steve. Sometimes we need people to put out their opinion before we make the wrong move. This wasn't controversial at all, just good points. I like that kind of post! Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community /* Steve Barnes wrote: > If you are starting out looking at CPE's, it is my opinion that you are > starting at the wrong end. Maybe you already have this all thought out and > planned. Tranzeo is a fine product I own hundreds of them. However, you need > to start at the beginning and look at internet backhaul, then the > distribution to the towers and how you're going to manage clients. Then you > need to determine the proper frequencies for your location which is > determined by Line of sight obstacles and noise from competitors and other > factors. These will all lead to a decision as to what equipment is best > suited for your location. That is the right step. Deciding on the equipment > you want to use then trying to make it fit your location will cause you > countless hours of frustration. > > Tranzeo makes a great line of 2.4 CPE's. Consistent in quality and look. > Price is OK as long as you buy in quantity. There are other options that may > give you better control depending on your circumstances. Don't start out > without traveling some and discussing the growing pains with someone who has > been there and who is not your closest competitor. > > You might also look at partnerships with other WISP's in your area. It is > always good to have someone to fall back-on when the going gets tough (and it > will). > > My opinion. And like butt-holes everyone has one and most shouldn't let > theirs out. But I just did. > > Steve Barnes > RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service > > > -Original Message- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Rogelio > Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 1:34 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: [WISPA] Using Tranzeo as CPE for rural community > > I'm looking into setting up wi-fi for rural county (using stimulus > dollars) and am now looking for CPE devices to put on each rooftop. > > A past coworker told me that he's heard good things about Tranzeo, and I > was wondering what others here on the list thought about them as a vendor. > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Using Tranzeo as CPE for rural community
Thanks, Steve. Your advice is helpful. (I actually already have all of the other vendor pieces. I am now just looking for CPE devices to put on the roofs of the houses that subscribe.) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Using Tranzeo as CPE for rural community
If you are starting out looking at CPE's, it is my opinion that you are starting at the wrong end. Maybe you already have this all thought out and planned. Tranzeo is a fine product I own hundreds of them. However, you need to start at the beginning and look at internet backhaul, then the distribution to the towers and how you're going to manage clients. Then you need to determine the proper frequencies for your location which is determined by Line of sight obstacles and noise from competitors and other factors. These will all lead to a decision as to what equipment is best suited for your location. That is the right step. Deciding on the equipment you want to use then trying to make it fit your location will cause you countless hours of frustration. Tranzeo makes a great line of 2.4 CPE's. Consistent in quality and look. Price is OK as long as you buy in quantity. There are other options that may give you better control depending on your circumstances. Don't start out without traveling some and discussing the growing pains with someone who has been there and who is not your closest competitor. You might also look at partnerships with other WISP's in your area. It is always good to have someone to fall back-on when the going gets tough (and it will). My opinion. And like butt-holes everyone has one and most shouldn't let theirs out. But I just did. Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rogelio Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 1:34 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Using Tranzeo as CPE for rural community I'm looking into setting up wi-fi for rural county (using stimulus dollars) and am now looking for CPE devices to put on each rooftop. A past coworker told me that he's heard good things about Tranzeo, and I was wondering what others here on the list thought about them as a vendor. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Using Tranzeo as CPE for rural community
I'm looking into setting up wi-fi for rural county (using stimulus dollars) and am now looking for CPE devices to put on each rooftop. A past coworker told me that he's heard good things about Tranzeo, and I was wondering what others here on the list thought about them as a vendor. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] National Broadband availability - a simple solution to themapping problem.
Brian, That is good information regarding "Census Block". I had no idea there was an area tracked that small comparatively to ZipCode. Although WISPs may not like the headache of complicating their Form477, I'd argue, that Census Block would be a better unit for measuring "unserved" or "underserved" or "rural" areas. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: "Brian Webster" To: "Motorola Canopy List" ; "WISPA List" ; Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 10:08 AM Subject: [WISPA] National Broadband availability - a simple solution to themapping problem. > The 350 million dollars allocated for a national broadband mapping is way > more than necessary. Read through this message to get an idea of the issue > and examine the attached maps to see what we are dealing with using any > particular level of mapping detail. This is obviously just my opinion but > one worth consideration. > > I have attached map images of Tom Green County, Texas with the different > polygons the Census Bureau uses in their demographic tabulations. I chose > this county because it seems to be a decent cross section of rural America > but also has a high population density area. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Green_County,_Texas > > Here are the raw numbers, but you need to look at the attached images to > see > how the totals can be deceiving when compared to the map: > > Zip Code Tabulation areas = 13 (These polygons are made up by the Census > Bureau, the post office does not create zip code polygons, zip codes are > linear routing for them) > The FCC already has this data collected using the Form 477. > > Census Tracts = 23 (look in the rural areas outside San Angelo to see that > they are actually much bigger than the zip code areas) > This is the level of reporting required on the new Form 477. > > Census Block Groups = 101 > > Census Blocks = 5241 (even in the rural areas these are much smaller than > Tracts or Zip Codes). Blocks are the most granular level studied by the > Census. > > The problem with the FCC data in the current state is, if there is just > one > single customer reported as served in a polygon, they show the whole area > as > being served by broadband. We know the number of households in each of the > polygons (Census 2000 Figures). If the FCC totaled the number of > subscribers > for all form 477 respondents and then divided that by the total > households, > we could have a percentage of the households served within each polygon. > This would be much better than an all or nothing reporting method. This > would also not cost anywhere near 350 million dollars to report broadband > availability to the public. If the total subscribers was aggregated by all > carriers (removing the data for Satellite Internet), you would not know > the > specific totals for each provider, thus preserving private information. > > Just thought I would post this for all to see and become familiar with the > issue. > > > > Thank You, > Brian Webster > > > > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
