[WISPA] Test - Ignore please
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Re: [WISPA] Test - Ignore please
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[WISPA] 3.65 ghz from Down Under
This gear has just been FCC certified: http://www.emsolutions.com.au/index.php?option=com_contentview=article; id=13:ethermux-tdmacatid=1:web-pagesItemid=2 Anyone know about them? Tim? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Question about BGP + Mikrotik
List Im running 3.15 on our Core Router to our upstream, I have 3 circuits running BGP to the same provider. Im only receving rartial routes. All is well We just sold a circuit to anothe ISP, thy want full bGP support. I assume we must change to full routes, any tips on the changes needed? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll
I had a customers dog chew through the cable about 2 months ago. Replaced the whole cable at NO CHARGE and thought that was the end of it. Then just last week they had problems and I went out and the dog chewed through the new wire AGAIN! I was so mad that I was ready to shoot the dog. I replaced the entire cable again and charged them $50. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll We don't charge anything to fix problems with the radio, router or cable. The only time we charge is if the customer requests the antenna to be moved, or they cause the problem (cut the cable, dog chews it, etc.). Travis Microserv my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: I'm just curious what everybody is charging their residential and business customers for a truck roll to fix problems with the wisp subscriber equipment. We've always tried to get the customer to pay something, especially when we have to replace equipment that goes bad. It's often turns into a whole ordeal where the customer gets mad, threaten to switch services, etc. We mainly use Alvarion equipment which is pretty reliable, but when they go bad, they're expensive to replace. Like to hear how others are doing it. Thanks, WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll
Try rubbing hot pepper on the cable after it's installed. On Apr 18, 2009, at 10:37 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: I had a customers dog chew through the cable about 2 months ago. Replaced the whole cable at NO CHARGE and thought that was the end of it. Then just last week they had problems and I went out and the dog chewed through the new wire AGAIN! I was so mad that I was ready to shoot the dog. I replaced the entire cable again and charged them $50. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll We don't charge anything to fix problems with the radio, router or cable. The only time we charge is if the customer requests the antenna to be moved, or they cause the problem (cut the cable, dog chews it, etc.). Travis Microserv my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: I'm just curious what everybody is charging their residential and business customers for a truck roll to fix problems with the wisp subscriber equipment. We've always tried to get the customer to pay something, especially when we have to replace equipment that goes bad. It's often turns into a whole ordeal where the customer gets mad, threaten to switch services, etc. We mainly use Alvarion equipment which is pretty reliable, but when they go bad, they're expensive to replace. Like to hear how others are doing it. Thanks, WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll
Same with pretty much everyone else we don't charge if it a problem with our gearhowever, if its a damaged cable, roofer damage, PC configuration, router configuration etc. We run a truck for 35.00 base fee and 65 per hour after the first half hour. On customers that require a move, i.e new house or need to move the gear its 100.00 minimum. Ryan On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: I had a customers dog chew through the cable about 2 months ago. Replaced the whole cable at NO CHARGE and thought that was the end of it. Then just last week they had problems and I went out and the dog chewed through the new wire AGAIN! I was so mad that I was ready to shoot the dog. I replaced the entire cable again and charged them $50. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll We don't charge anything to fix problems with the radio, router or cable. The only time we charge is if the customer requests the antenna to be moved, or they cause the problem (cut the cable, dog chews it, etc.). Travis Microserv my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: I'm just curious what everybody is charging their residential and business customers for a truck roll to fix problems with the wisp subscriber equipment. We've always tried to get the customer to pay something, especially when we have to replace equipment that goes bad. It's often turns into a whole ordeal where the customer gets mad, threaten to switch services, etc. We mainly use Alvarion equipment which is pretty reliable, but when they go bad, they're expensive to replace. Like to hear how others are doing it. Thanks, WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll
Should have charged them the first time. If someone threw paint on your truck would you scrub it off or make them pay (financially pr physically)? On 4/18/09, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: I had a customers dog chew through the cable about 2 months ago. Replaced the whole cable at NO CHARGE and thought that was the end of it. Then just last week they had problems and I went out and the dog chewed through the new wire AGAIN! I was so mad that I was ready to shoot the dog. I replaced the entire cable again and charged them $50. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll We don't charge anything to fix problems with the radio, router or cable. The only time we charge is if the customer requests the antenna to be moved, or they cause the problem (cut the cable, dog chews it, etc.). Travis Microserv my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: I'm just curious what everybody is charging their residential and business customers for a truck roll to fix problems with the wisp subscriber equipment. We've always tried to get the customer to pay something, especially when we have to replace equipment that goes bad. It's often turns into a whole ordeal where the customer gets mad, threaten to switch services, etc. We mainly use Alvarion equipment which is pretty reliable, but when they go bad, they're expensive to replace. Like to hear how others are doing it. Thanks, WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll
Around here the cops would let you beat them up and still make them pay financially. *grins* Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 11:15 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll Should have charged them the first time. If someone threw paint on your truck would you scrub it off or make them pay (financially pr physically)? On 4/18/09, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: I had a customers dog chew through the cable about 2 months ago. Replaced the whole cable at NO CHARGE and thought that was the end of it. Then just last week they had problems and I went out and the dog chewed through the new wire AGAIN! I was so mad that I was ready to shoot the dog. I replaced the entire cable again and charged them $50. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll We don't charge anything to fix problems with the radio, router or cable. The only time we charge is if the customer requests the antenna to be moved, or they cause the problem (cut the cable, dog chews it, etc.). Travis Microserv my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: I'm just curious what everybody is charging their residential and business customers for a truck roll to fix problems with the wisp subscriber equipment. We've always tried to get the customer to pay something, especially when we have to replace equipment that goes bad. It's often turns into a whole ordeal where the customer gets mad, threaten to switch services, etc. We mainly use Alvarion equipment which is pretty reliable, but when they go bad, they're expensive to replace. Like to hear how others are doing it. Thanks, WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll
Win:win:win situation! Cops around here...I'm going to leave this one be. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: Around here the cops would let you beat them up and still make them pay financially. *grins* Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 11:15 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll Should have charged them the first time. If someone threw paint on your truck would you scrub it off or make them pay (financially pr physically)? On 4/18/09, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: I had a customers dog chew through the cable about 2 months ago. Replaced the whole cable at NO CHARGE and thought that was the end of it. Then just last week they had problems and I went out and the dog chewed through the new wire AGAIN! I was so mad that I was ready to shoot the dog. I replaced the entire cable again and charged them $50. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll We don't charge anything to fix problems with the radio, router or cable. The only time we charge is if the customer requests the antenna to be moved, or they cause the problem (cut the cable, dog chews it, etc.). Travis Microserv my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: I'm just curious what everybody is charging their residential and business customers for a truck roll to fix problems with the wisp subscriber equipment. We've always tried to get the customer to pay something, especially when we have to replace equipment that goes bad. It's often turns into a whole ordeal where the customer gets mad, threaten to switch services, etc. We mainly use Alvarion equipment which is pretty reliable, but when they go bad, they're expensive to replace. Like to hear how others are doing it. Thanks, WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Question about BGP + Mikrotik
Lots of memory. Do you redistribute the partial routes into your igp? -Original Message- From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com] Sent: 18 April 2009 15:45 To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Question about BGP + Mikrotik List Im running 3.15 on our Core Router to our upstream, I have 3 circuits running BGP to the same provider. Im only receving rartial routes. All is well We just sold a circuit to anothe ISP, thy want full bGP support. I assume we must change to full routes, any tips on the changes needed? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Question about BGP + Mikrotik
The Router has 900 mb of free memmory ...the routes are only redistributed to the nexhop (Core distributio Router) But the ISP will not be connected to the 2nd Router on ly to the Core facing the upstream ... Makes sense? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 11:51 AM To: wireless Subject: Re: [WISPA] Question about BGP + Mikrotik Lots of memory. Do you redistribute the partial routes into your igp? -Original Message- From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com] Sent: 18 April 2009 15:45 To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Question about BGP + Mikrotik List Im running 3.15 on our Core Router to our upstream, I have 3 circuits running BGP to the same provider. Im only receving rartial routes. All is well We just sold a circuit to anothe ISP, thy want full bGP support. I assume we must change to full routes, any tips on the changes needed? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Question about BGP + Mikrotik
Ill add that the isp has its own AS # Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 11:51 AM To: wireless Subject: Re: [WISPA] Question about BGP + Mikrotik Lots of memory. Do you redistribute the partial routes into your igp? -Original Message- From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com] Sent: 18 April 2009 15:45 To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Question about BGP + Mikrotik List Im running 3.15 on our Core Router to our upstream, I have 3 circuits running BGP to the same provider. Im only receving rartial routes. All is well We just sold a circuit to anothe ISP, thy want full bGP support. I assume we must change to full routes, any tips on the changes needed? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll
Was it a labrador? I find labs eat cable more than any any other breed. I allow for one free splice then they pay for my time. ryan D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com On Apr 18, 2009, at 8:07 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: I had a customers dog chew through the cable about 2 months ago. Replaced the whole cable at NO CHARGE and thought that was the end of it. Then just last week they had problems and I went out and the dog chewed through the new wire AGAIN! I was so mad that I was ready to shoot the dog. I replaced the entire cable again and charged them $50. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll We don't charge anything to fix problems with the radio, router or cable. The only time we charge is if the customer requests the antenna to be moved, or they cause the problem (cut the cable, dog chews it, etc.). Travis Microserv my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: I'm just curious what everybody is charging their residential and business customers for a truck roll to fix problems with the wisp subscriber equipment. We've always tried to get the customer to pay something, especially when we have to replace equipment that goes bad. It's often turns into a whole ordeal where the customer gets mad, threaten to switch services, etc. We mainly use Alvarion equipment which is pretty reliable, but when they go bad, they're expensive to replace. Like to hear how others are doing it. Thanks, WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Question about BGP + Mikrotik
A quick check looks like you have your own ASN, have one upstream peer (Sprint) and are advertising IPs reassigned to you from Sprint. Is that correct? You should be able to setup a BGP session between you and your new client and simply pass on any routes you are currently pulling from Sprint to your BGP client. You'll also need to let Sprint know that you have a new client that will be advertising their IP space so they can adjust their filters. Of course you'll need to adjust your outgoing BGP filters as well. You should have plenty of RAM to pull a full routing table from Sprint. I do not believe passing the routing table downstream takes any notable additional memory or CPU utilization. Our BGP MikroTiks are Quad Core machines with 2GB of RAM. A little overkill on the RAM, but having the Quad Core CPU really makes a difference when working with full tables. I'm a firm believer of don't fix it if it isn't broken, but you also may want to upgrade to v3.18 or v3.22 if you experience any BGP problems. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 11:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Question about BGP + Mikrotik Ill add that the isp has its own AS # Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul Hendry Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 11:51 AM To: wireless Subject: Re: [WISPA] Question about BGP + Mikrotik Lots of memory. Do you redistribute the partial routes into your igp? -Original Message- From: Gino Villarini [mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com] Sent: 18 April 2009 15:45 To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Question about BGP + Mikrotik List Im running 3.15 on our Core Router to our upstream, I have 3 circuits running BGP to the same provider. Im only receving rartial routes. All is well We just sold a circuit to anothe ISP, thy want full bGP support. I assume we must change to full routes, any tips on the changes needed? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll
Yes it was a black lab. I've also had this happen to people that live out in the rural areas with no dogs so there may also be another animal that is doing it too. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 1:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll Was it a labrador? I find labs eat cable more than any any other breed. I allow for one free splice then they pay for my time. ryan D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com On Apr 18, 2009, at 8:07 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: I had a customers dog chew through the cable about 2 months ago. Replaced the whole cable at NO CHARGE and thought that was the end of it. Then just last week they had problems and I went out and the dog chewed through the new wire AGAIN! I was so mad that I was ready to shoot the dog. I replaced the entire cable again and charged them $50. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll We don't charge anything to fix problems with the radio, router or cable. The only time we charge is if the customer requests the antenna to be moved, or they cause the problem (cut the cable, dog chews it, etc.). Travis Microserv my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: I'm just curious what everybody is charging their residential and business customers for a truck roll to fix problems with the wisp subscriber equipment. We've always tried to get the customer to pay something, especially when we have to replace equipment that goes bad. It's often turns into a whole ordeal where the customer gets mad, threaten to switch services, etc. We mainly use Alvarion equipment which is pretty reliable, but when they go bad, they're expensive to replace. Like to hear how others are doing it. Thanks, WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll
I think sometimes the provider shoots themselves in the foot, because they don't charge, when a customer would be perfectly willing to pay. For example, The second time a dogs eats a wire, as Kurt explained, I don't think most home owners would mind paying. In most cases we do repair/maintenance at NO Charge, for things that are our responsibilty, that we warrant to cover. And we'll give customers a break now and then, if they are an easy or long term customer of ours. But there is nothing wrong with charging, when its appropriate. Nothing less than $90, our 1 hour min.. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll Win:win:win situation! Cops around here...I'm going to leave this one be. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: Around here the cops would let you beat them up and still make them pay financially. *grins* Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 11:15 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll Should have charged them the first time. If someone threw paint on your truck would you scrub it off or make them pay (financially pr physically)? On 4/18/09, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: I had a customers dog chew through the cable about 2 months ago. Replaced the whole cable at NO CHARGE and thought that was the end of it. Then just last week they had problems and I went out and the dog chewed through the new wire AGAIN! I was so mad that I was ready to shoot the dog. I replaced the entire cable again and charged them $50. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] How much to charge for a truck roll We don't charge anything to fix problems with the radio, router or cable. The only time we charge is if the customer requests the antenna to be moved, or they cause the problem (cut the cable, dog chews it, etc.). Travis Microserv my_em...@webjogger.net wrote: I'm just curious what everybody is charging their residential and business customers for a truck roll to fix problems with the wisp subscriber equipment. We've always tried to get the customer to pay something, especially when we have to replace equipment that goes bad. It's often turns into a whole ordeal where the customer gets mad, threaten to switch services, etc. We mainly use Alvarion equipment which is pretty reliable, but when they go bad, they're expensive to replace. Like to hear how others are doing it. Thanks, WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!
[WISPA] IPTV
Has anyone worked with IPTV service at all? Looking at an H.264 or VC-1 architecture, since they are the most bandwidth efficient. It also appears that if you use IP, you don't need franchise agreements, where as you do with RF TV. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IPTV
An article I read stating that Verizon's failure in their RF system was that they required a franchise agreement whereas they didn't mention anything about franchises in the ATT section. Also, doing it wirelessly wouldn't be any different than satellite, which doesn't require a franchise. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: John Scrivner j...@scrivner.com Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 3:55 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] IPTV What led you to believe you do not need a franchise agreement for IPTV? Scriv On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Has anyone worked with IPTV service at all? Looking at an H.264 or VC-1 architecture, since they are the most bandwidth efficient. It also appears that if you use IP, you don't need franchise agreements, where as you do with RF TV. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Question about BGP + Mikrotik
Make sure your MT router has at least 512MB of RAM (1GB preferred) and tell your upstreams to start sending full routes. That's it. Travis Microserv Gino Villarini wrote: List Im running 3.15 on our Core Router to our upstream, I have 3 circuits running BGP to the same provider. Im only receving rartial routes. All is well We just sold a circuit to anothe ISP, thy want full bGP support. I assume we must change to full routes, any tips on the changes needed? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
