Re: [WISPA] OT, IE is allowing strange things

2009-05-11 Thread Mike Hammett
Unless you're VPN'ed back home, you'll have an IP address registered elsewhere. They usually have a method to look elsewhere too, once they direct you to where they think is the best place for you which usually is. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [WISPA] One connection bandwidth=x / 2 commections bandwidth=2x why?

2009-05-11 Thread Dennis Burgess - Linktechs
Speed limit per connection? Or per IP? * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member* *Office*:

Re: [WISPA] Noise by me on a tower

2009-05-11 Thread Steve Barnes
Thanks for everyone's advise on this. First I would like to know a good vendor for ferrite beads. Second it has been fixed. Without much adjustment from me. I had tower climber go up and re-crimp all grounds and run a new ground strap from the cabinet to the tower. That may have helped.

Re: [WISPA] One connection bandwidth=x / 2 commections bandwidth=2x why?

2009-05-11 Thread Jeff Broadwick
We ran into something like that when a customer was using his laptop to generate traffic on a frac DS3 circuit. The issue was primarily due to how his application was trying to generate traffic. Jeff -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] One connection bandwidth=x / 2 commections bandwidth=2x why?

2009-05-11 Thread Josh Luthman
What are you using for the tests? On 5/11/09, Jeff Broadwick jeffl...@comcast.net wrote: We ran into something like that when a customer was using his laptop to generate traffic on a frac DS3 circuit. The issue was primarily due to how his application was trying to generate traffic. Jeff

[WISPA] Hidden Node symptoms, and best practice with RTS/CTS solution?

2009-05-11 Thread rabbtux rabbtux
Greetings, We have a busy site with two sectors bridged that covers a large area. With moderate traffic on the site, clients see a large slow up. This is probably due to the hidden node effect. What are the best practices using RTS/CTS to improve performance and what are the tradeoffs? Yes I

Re: [WISPA] Hidden Node symptoms, and best practice with RTS/CTS solution?

2009-05-11 Thread D. Ryan Spott
What equipment are you using and how many clients are you supporting per sector? ryan rabbtux rabbtux wrote: Greetings, We have a busy site with two sectors bridged that covers a large area. With moderate traffic on the site, clients see a large slow up. This is probably due to the

Re: [WISPA] One connection bandwidth=x / 2 commections bandwidth=2x why?

2009-05-11 Thread Scott Carullo
Any TCP traffic multiple apps same results Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On May 11, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Jeff Broadwick jeffl...@comcast.net wrote: We ran into something like that when a customer was using his laptop to generate traffic on a frac DS3 circuit. The

Re: [WISPA] Hidden Node symptoms, and best practice with RTS/CTS solution?

2009-05-11 Thread Jack Unger
Don't assume that a hidden-node problem is the biggest contributor to the slowups that you're seeing. Going to a routed network may give you a better improvement than RTS/CTS. jack rabbtux rabbtux wrote: Greetings, We have a busy site with two sectors bridged that covers a large area.

Re: [WISPA] One connection bandwidth=x / 2 commections bandwidth=2x why?

2009-05-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Have you tried with a different PC? On 5/11/09, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: Any TCP traffic multiple apps same results Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x102 On May 11, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Jeff Broadwick jeffl...@comcast.net wrote: We ran into something

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-11 Thread Randy Cosby
Old thread, but just curious where this has progressed. I've seen that JeffSoHoCo has certified gear. Is that based on the same Mikrotik program you describe here Mac? Is that information available from Mikrotik to any reseller? Randy Mac Dearman wrote: Word on the FCC certified gear

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-11 Thread Eje Gustafsson
Cross roads are certified with the entire Pacific Wireless line of antennas. R52 is certified with most of those as well (if not all). You can also use XR2/5 cards in RB SBC's. There are other solutions as well. We offer some certified pre built solutions more to come. / Eje Gustafsson CTO

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-11 Thread Randy Cosby
Can you explain what you mean by certified then? What does that entail other than just putting together a board, antenna and radio that are fcc certified? Do you have the entire unit tested and certified, or do yo see that as not necessary? Randy Eje Gustafsson wrote: Cross roads are

Re: [WISPA] One connection bandwidth=x / 2 commections bandwidth=2x why?

2009-05-11 Thread Tom DeReggi
When this occurs it usually means that your connection has minor packet loss or TCP delays in transfer, very hard to identify. You will likely find that UDP will transfer full speed. TCP is doing what it is supposed to do, which is slow down, to attempt to correct congestion, but in reality may

[WISPA] OSPF question

2009-05-11 Thread Gino Villarini
Can I have several neighboors under the same interface? I have a OSPF neighboor in ether1, can I have another neighboor with the same area on the same interface? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145

Re: [WISPA] OSPF question

2009-05-11 Thread Kevin Neal
Yes you can. -Kevin -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 1:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OSPF question Can I have several neighboors under the same interface? I

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-11 Thread Dennis Burgess - Linktechs
First, you have to be a distributor of MT to be able to certify. It has to be a certified system, as well has to have all of the images, text etc on it as well. You can only get those if you are a MT distributor. * --- Dennis Burgess,

Re: [WISPA] OSPF question

2009-05-11 Thread Dennis Burgess - Linktechs
yeppers * --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member* *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*:

Re: [WISPA] Hidden Node symptoms, and best practice with RTS/CTS solution?

2009-05-11 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Routing will help considerably, and also coming with reasonable bandwidth control plans for all of the customers, enforced at the AP. I can get 40-50 people on an 802.11b AP with mostly 384k and 640k bandwidth packages.These are also bursted, and half speed on the upload, so on a

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-11 Thread Randy Cosby
So Mikrotik did the certification of the unit with the FCC then? Randy Dennis Burgess - Linktechs wrote: First, you have to be a distributor of MT to be able to certify. It has to be a certified system, as well has to have all of the images, text etc on it as well. You can only get those

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-11 Thread Tom DeReggi
There are multiple ways to certify equipment, which have different requirements. The new trend is to certify the card with the antenna, just like you were buying a certified wifi card off Best Buy's shelf, intending to install it in your thrid party laptop. However, we all know, by FCC's

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-11 Thread Randy Cosby
Thanks for that answer. As usual, that brings up more questions for me. If I buy a Mikrotik RB411 card, it has an FCC logo on it, I assume because it passed some FCC radiation tests. However, I have no idea what enclosure that was tested in, if at all. Is there a place to look up this

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-11 Thread Eje Gustafsson
The SBC is a class B type device. Same thing as a computer motherboard or a video card. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Part_15_(FCC_rules)#B_-_Unintentional_radiators It's a component certification testing. No stipulations are placed on enclosure or other similar hardware. Basically it's a

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-11 Thread Eje Gustafsson
This is not true. Or else every minipci card would have to be tested and certified with every single laptop they are being installed into. A SBC or a laptop motherboard is a class B regulated device. If it passes the class B compliance testing your allowed to installed any FCC certified

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-11 Thread Tom DeReggi
Eje, I think you misunderstood my post. But you did answer it with appropriate info that I was looking for. Thanks for clarifying that RB SBCs had Class B FCC certification. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Eje

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-11 Thread sa...@jeffcosoho.com
We have a number of FCC certified Mikrotik systems (not all on the site yet). We also have been through the approval process with the RUS for one of our customers to get reimbursed for Mikrotik products that we sold them. We are also an approved contractor for installation of the gear. I have

Re: [WISPA] One connection bandwidth=x / 2 commections bandwidth=2x why?

2009-05-11 Thread Scott Carullo
Yes lots of them, from different internet connections as well. Focusing on customers from BHN connecting to our TW Telecom fiber circuit. Have not been able to do enough testing outside our network though to be certain. That leads me to a request... can anyone who reads this that has

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-11 Thread Scott Carullo
I'm pretty sure the FCC and the testing labs don't care who you are or where you buy your stuff... thats not what they are looking for. Example - I choose to take 4 parts (some mikrotik) and get them certified - I can Do you see this differently? Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless

Re: [WISPA] One connection bandwidth=x / 2 commections bandwidth=2x why?

2009-05-11 Thread Travis Johnson
Saw peaks up to 680KB/sec using Firefox. Travis Microserv Scott Carullo wrote: Yes lots of them, from different internet connections as well. Focusing on customers from BHN connecting to our TW Telecom fiber circuit. Have not been able to do enough testing outside our network though

Re: [WISPA] One connection bandwidth=x / 2 commections bandwidth=2xwhy?

2009-05-11 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
It required 72 seconds via RoadRunner with Turbo Boost option. . . . J o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Carullo Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 7:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] One

Re: [WISPA] One connection bandwidth=x / 2 commections bandwidth=2x why?

2009-05-11 Thread Matt Liotta
I could download the file in 16 seconds from Atlanta. Never saw it get past 48Mbps. Did notice it was routing through Ashburn, which is less than ideal if you are Florida. -Matt On May 11, 2009, at 8:15 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: Yes lots of them, from different internet connections as

Re: [WISPA] One connection bandwidth=x / 2 commections bandwidth=2xwhy?

2009-05-11 Thread Tom Sharples
The most I was able to achieve was around 2 mb/sec, using a 20+ mb/s Comcast circuit. Also tried a sawnet fiber circuit, about the same result. Tom S. - Original Message - From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 11,

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-11 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
...talk about going all over the place 1 0 ms[206.210.208.1] jschmidt-router.pt.net 2 *** timed out *** 3 11 ms [24.28.133.126] gig10-0-6.snantx6000-rtr2.satx.rr.com 4 12 ms [72.179.205.84] gig3-1-0.hstntxl3-rtr1.texas.rr.com 5 18 ms

Re: [WISPA] One connection bandwidth=x / 2 commections bandwidth=2x why?

2009-05-11 Thread John Thomas
1 minute 49 seconds from a 100 Meg feed at Hurricane Electric in Fremont CA. John Scott Carullo wrote: Yes lots of them, from different internet connections as well. Focusing on customers from BHN connecting to our TW Telecom fiber circuit. Have not been able to do enough testing outside

Re: [WISPA] One connection bandwidth=x / 2 commections bandwidth=2x why?

2009-05-11 Thread os10rules
30 seconds using Cablevision's Optimum cable service (regular, not the premium turbo) over an 802.11g wireless LAN. Using speedtest.net I only get 15 megs down at best. On May 11, 2009, at 9:31 PM, John Thomas wrote: 1 minute 49 seconds from a 100 Meg feed at Hurricane Electric in

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-11 Thread Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs
Yes, you can not certify the radios, MT wants the distributors to build and certify them. If you build them, they won't be certified. -- * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org http://www.wispa.org/ Link Technologies, Inc

[WISPA] Sentry 4G 900 Pricing

2009-05-11 Thread Jayson Baker
Anyone got pricing info on the CalAmp Sentry 4G 900MHz systems? We have a client ready to deploy about 15 of them if the price is right, but I can't get pricing from anyone. Jayson WISPA Wants You! Join today!

Re: [WISPA] One connection bandwidth=x / 2 commections bandwidth=2xwhy?

2009-05-11 Thread Mike Hammett
I averaged a 22 mbit connection. I should have more than that available. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 7:15 PM To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] One connection bandwidth=x / 2 commections bandwidth=2xwhy?

2009-05-11 Thread Mike Hammett
Oh yeah, mine was on SteadFast Networks. It went SteadFast - NLayer - TWTelecom all in Chicago. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com Sent: Monday, May 11,

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-11 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 22:18 -0500, Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs wrote: Yes, you can not certify the radios, MT wants the distributors to build and certify them. If you build them, they won't be certified. If Mikrotik has done the Part B certification for the boards, then your statement is not

Re: [WISPA] OSPF question

2009-05-11 Thread Butch Evans
On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 15:40 -0400, Gino Villarini wrote: Can I have several neighboors under the same interface? Yes. I have a OSPF neighboor in ether1, can I have another neighboor with the same area on the same interface? This is common for a broadcast network, actually. What is it that

[WISPA] Today's ARIN

2009-05-11 Thread Butch Evans
I have a customer that will be multi-homed soon. He has asked me to help him get ready for this move. I will be handling his BGP and such, but he wants me to handle getting his IP space from ARIN as well. It has been about 5 years since I've dealt with them at all, and I know there is likely

Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC

2009-05-11 Thread eje
On another note. To do a FCC certification of a radio it's not just to do the testing. Either you have to have approval from the original certifier to reuse their cert filing to create a new FCC id to which you add your antennas that been tested. Or you have to have a lot of documentation such

Re: [WISPA] Today's ARIN

2009-05-11 Thread Scott Carullo
Its getting harder and they just changed the criteria cause they are running out of space. actually its just a signed piece of paper from company owner saying they in fact do need the ips. But they require complete documentation of how you will use them all...Also I do not believe you