Re: [WISPA] DVR experience
I've had reasonably good luck with Axis IP Megapixel cams, and OnSSI DVR software. Bosch has a nice line of traditional cameras, and their DVRs are hybrid, allowing the addition of IP cameras. On 6/1/09, D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote: I am using Mobotix for cameras. The DVR software is free. Or the cams can perform the DVR function. Hit me offlist and I can give you a link to 2 I just put up out of 22 for a small city. ryan On Jun 1, 2009, at 6:16 PM, George Rogato wrote: Anyone working with dvr's and cameras that they really like? I'm looking for advice on what is good and what is not. Thanks WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Sent from my mobile device WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Customer Support
Chris: I have talked with this guy several times and really like him -- very professional, not pushy. And they seem very capable. But I have not worked with him personally, so I cannot attest to anything. But if I read him correctly, he should be very good. You will of course have to ferret out whether the 'price is right'. Here is the background information that he sent me on the company as well as his contact information. I have already suggested to him that he should look at membership in the association. Be sure to work that angle as well, especially if you do anything with him. Ron Information below: From: Matthew Achak [matthew.ac...@1callres.com] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:20 PM To: Ron Harden Subject: First Call Resolution - company information as promised Attachments: FCR - Overview.pdf; FCR presentation.ppt Ron, It was nice talking with you. Please find attached information about First Call Resolution and our outsourced domestically live agent help desk services for ILECs and CLECs. I have also included a slide deck about us as well. Headquartered out here in Oregon, First Call specializes in handling creative outsourced call center and back office work for companies in the communications (phone, cable, internet, wireless) arena such as Pervasip, basically helping wherever a need should present itself, inbound as well as outbound, short term as well as long term. The following are areas of our expertise: Customer Service Order Processing Technical Support Data Entry Outbound Calling (surveys, lead generation, welcome calls, retention calls, telesales) Email and web chat support After Hours coverage Short Term coverage Seasonal coverage Pilot programs Back office work Let me know if we can ever be of any assistance. Sincerely, Matthew Achak Executive VP and Founder First Call Resolution 206-932-2023 (o) matthew.ac...@1callres.com www.1callres.com -Original Message- From: Christopher Hair [mailto:sa...@ntinet.com] Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 4:23 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Outsourced Customer Support We provide Dial-up, DSL and Wireless Broadband services. Looking at outsourcing customer support for weekends and afterhours. Anyone got any company references, suggestions or experiences with outsourcing support? Thanks in Advance Christopher Hair NTInet Inc. Orangeburg, SC 29118 Web: http://www.ntinet.com www.ntinet.com Email: mailto:%20ch...@ntinet.com ch...@ntinet.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Customer Support
I have talked with this guy too. When I asked about outsourced customer support a couple of weeks ago, he contacted me after seeing my post. I think his company sounds very good at what they do. They are in the US, so not outsourcing their service, which was valuable to me. Unfortunately the price wasn't in my bracket - probably no one's is right now, but a company I would consider in the future. here is a list of other companies that people replied: ServerPlus - 2 for this company Advantage Communications KIT Support Wisp Ops at wispops.com Hope this helps. Martha Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community /* Ron Harden wrote: Chris: I have talked with this guy several times and really like him -- very professional, not pushy. And they seem very capable. But I have not worked with him personally, so I cannot attest to anything. But if I read him correctly, he should be very good. You will of course have to ferret out whether the 'price is right'. Here is the background information that he sent me on the company as well as his contact information. I have already suggested to him that he should look at membership in the association. Be sure to work that angle as well, especially if you do anything with him. Ron Information below: From: Matthew Achak [matthew.ac...@1callres.com] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 12:20 PM To: Ron Harden Subject: First Call Resolution - company information as promised Attachments: FCR - Overview.pdf; FCR presentation.ppt Ron, It was nice talking with you. Please find attached information about First Call Resolution and our outsourced domestically live agent help desk services for ILECs and CLECs. I have also included a slide deck about us as well. Headquartered out here in Oregon, First Call specializes in handling creative outsourced call center and back office work for companies in the communications (phone, cable, internet, wireless) arena such as Pervasip, basically helping wherever a need should present itself, inbound as well as outbound, short term as well as long term. The following are areas of our expertise: Customer Service Order Processing Technical Support Data Entry Outbound Calling (surveys, lead generation, welcome calls, retention calls, telesales) Email and web chat support After Hours coverage Short Term coverage Seasonal coverage Pilot programs Back office work Let me know if we can ever be of any assistance. Sincerely, Matthew Achak Executive VP and Founder First Call Resolution 206-932-2023 (o) matthew.ac...@1callres.com www.1callres.com -Original Message- From: Christopher Hair [mailto:sa...@ntinet.com] Sent: Saturday, May 30, 2009 4:23 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Outsourced Customer Support We provide Dial-up, DSL and Wireless Broadband services. Looking at outsourcing customer support for weekends and afterhours. Anyone got any company references, suggestions or experiences with outsourcing support? Thanks in Advance Christopher Hair NTInet Inc. Orangeburg, SC 29118 Web: http://www.ntinet.com www.ntinet.com Email: mailto:%20ch...@ntinet.com ch...@ntinet.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Time Warner Tiers
I did some Googling, but couldn't find anything substantial. Does anyone have what the proposed Time Warner Cable tiers are? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DVR experience
Thanks Ryan, I have a Mobotix cam. I'm not looking for ip cams. Looking for traditional cams. I just used one of these: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4442425sku=L350-0013 I kinda like it, except it uses quicktime for the streaming. D. Ryan Spott wrote: I am using Mobotix for cameras. The DVR software is free. Or the cams can perform the DVR function. Hit me offlist and I can give you a link to 2 I just put up out of 22 for a small city. ryan On Jun 1, 2009, at 6:16 PM, George Rogato wrote: Anyone working with dvr's and cameras that they really like? I'm looking for advice on what is good and what is not. Thanks WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DVR experience
Hi Jeremy Have you tried the Bosch and you like it? Do you remember the price you paid by chance? Jeremy Parr wrote: I've had reasonably good luck with Axis IP Megapixel cams, and OnSSI DVR software. Bosch has a nice line of traditional cameras, and their DVRs are hybrid, allowing the addition of IP cameras. On 6/1/09, D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote: I am using Mobotix for cameras. The DVR software is free. Or the cams can perform the DVR function. Hit me offlist and I can give you a link to 2 I just put up out of 22 for a small city. ryan On Jun 1, 2009, at 6:16 PM, George Rogato wrote: Anyone working with dvr's and cameras that they really like? I'm looking for advice on what is good and what is not. Thanks WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DVR experience
Years ago we deployed several DVRs from SecurityCamerasDirect.com Not a bad company at all - pretty good support, nice products and good prices. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 11:45 AM, George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net wrote: Hi Jeremy Have you tried the Bosch and you like it? Do you remember the price you paid by chance? Jeremy Parr wrote: I've had reasonably good luck with Axis IP Megapixel cams, and OnSSI DVR software. Bosch has a nice line of traditional cameras, and their DVRs are hybrid, allowing the addition of IP cameras. On 6/1/09, D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote: I am using Mobotix for cameras. The DVR software is free. Or the cams can perform the DVR function. Hit me offlist and I can give you a link to 2 I just put up out of 22 for a small city. ryan On Jun 1, 2009, at 6:16 PM, George Rogato wrote: Anyone working with dvr's and cameras that they really like? I'm looking for advice on what is good and what is not. Thanks WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DVR experience
What I'm trying to do is not use an expensive high quality ip cams. A couple years ago I did a cam job using a Sony. When I was researching the project I talked to a guy that does cams for a living. He said, for the money you spend on an ip cam, you could get a lot of non ip cams. I don't know very much about cameras, figured there is some experts here on the list that can help educate me-us. D. Ryan Spott wrote: I am using Mobotix for cameras. The DVR software is free. Or the cams can perform the DVR function. Hit me offlist and I can give you a link to 2 I just put up out of 22 for a small city. ryan On Jun 1, 2009, at 6:16 PM, George Rogato wrote: Anyone working with dvr's and cameras that they really like? I'm looking for advice on what is good and what is not. Thanks WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DVR experience
We have always used Geovision with analog cameras. It works well and down the road its cheap to change a M/B or whatever if needed. I have a few out there running well over seven years. The clients seem to like it as well. Joe Laura Superior Alarm/Internet www.superior1.com - Original Message - From: George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DVR experience What I'm trying to do is not use an expensive high quality ip cams. A couple years ago I did a cam job using a Sony. When I was researching the project I talked to a guy that does cams for a living. He said, for the money you spend on an ip cam, you could get a lot of non ip cams. I don't know very much about cameras, figured there is some experts here on the list that can help educate me-us. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DVR experience
Can non-IP cams support higher resolutions? I don't know where, but the analog lines have a limit as to how much you can send over them given that old technology. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 10:49 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] DVR experience What I'm trying to do is not use an expensive high quality ip cams. A couple years ago I did a cam job using a Sony. When I was researching the project I talked to a guy that does cams for a living. He said, for the money you spend on an ip cam, you could get a lot of non ip cams. I don't know very much about cameras, figured there is some experts here on the list that can help educate me-us. D. Ryan Spott wrote: I am using Mobotix for cameras. The DVR software is free. Or the cams can perform the DVR function. Hit me offlist and I can give you a link to 2 I just put up out of 22 for a small city. ryan On Jun 1, 2009, at 6:16 PM, George Rogato wrote: Anyone working with dvr's and cameras that they really like? I'm looking for advice on what is good and what is not. Thanks WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DVR experience
The composite video link is the likely limit for most inexpensive cameras. I used an Axis 240 box a long time ago for a webcam, and it had multiple inputs. The svideo input looked a lot better than the composite, so I used a cheap 2nd hand hi-8 video camera for it's input. svideo is probably no better than 640x480 digital. On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 11:20:25AM -0500, Mike Hammett wrote: Can non-IP cams support higher resolutions? I don't know where, but the analog lines have a limit as to how much you can send over them given that old technology. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 10:49 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] DVR experience What I'm trying to do is not use an expensive high quality ip cams. A couple years ago I did a cam job using a Sony. When I was researching the project I talked to a guy that does cams for a living. He said, for the money you spend on an ip cam, you could get a lot of non ip cams. I don't know very much about cameras, figured there is some experts here on the list that can help educate me-us. D. Ryan Spott wrote: I am using Mobotix for cameras. The DVR software is free. Or the cams can perform the DVR function. Hit me offlist and I can give you a link to 2 I just put up out of 22 for a small city. ryan On Jun 1, 2009, at 6:16 PM, George Rogato wrote: Anyone working with dvr's and cameras that they really like? I'm looking for advice on what is good and what is not. Thanks WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Time Warner Tiers
They cancel those plans after big opposition and congress people trying to get a bill going preventing it. /Eje --Original Message-- From: Mike Hammett Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org To: WISPA General List ReplyTo: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Time Warner Tiers Sent: Jun 2, 2009 09:47 I did some Googling, but couldn't find anything substantial. Does anyone have what the proposed Time Warner Cable tiers are? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wifi on AM Radio Tower?
Mike Goicoechea V.P. Of Operations, Cielo Systems International 806-977-9001 ext 101 Skype Mike.Goik m...@cielosystems.net www.cielosystems.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Israel Lopez Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Wifi on AM Radio Tower? Hello There, I am a volunteer IT guy spending some time in Honduras. I sent the list an email awhile ago for some knowledgeable guys in the WISPA space and I was impressed with some of your members' willingness to help. Im sending you guys a message so i have some feedback. We are here in Juticalpa, Olancho, Honduras. We have a tower that we are housing some multi point equipment on. A low grade omni, with no back haul where other sites use to get connectivity as our Demarc for internet doesnt have LOS to all of our sites. Our sites are schools, 3 of them: Special needs, Elementary, High School. The current problem is the network is slow end to end (from Site - multipoint - demarc(internet) we have 800kbps, and 300ms) over 2.8kilometers. We are putting a plan together to build a backhaul (new radios) and possibly better antenna coverage if it is possible 1) Our multipoint site has two towers available, we are using one of them. 2) The second tower has an AM Radio attached to it. 3) The AM Radio is broadcasting on 650Khz @ 1KW of power on the 100meter tower 4) We have a smaller tower (20Meters) with some 200mW 2.4Ghz Wifi Radio 5) This WIFI radio is acting as a bridge to other sites we cant get LOS. The idea. 1) Rebuild the multi point with a 2.4Ghz back haul PTP, and a new Omni directional radio @ 300mW 2) Move the setup into the 100Meter tower on the same tower with the AM transmitter for better LOS coverage. The expectation of a problem: Will that work? Are we crazy to put a 2.4Ghz antenna @ 300mW on the same tower as an AM Transmitter on 650Khz @ 1KW. I am honestly expecting RF overload on some of the radios to cause problems. If thats not the case, then we could use the higher tower to serve an area better. We are not running a WISP here, mainly providing data connectivity between schools. Let me know what your guys's thoughts are. -Israel WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wifi on AM Radio Tower?
Oops not sure what happened there. Mike -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Goicoechea Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 12:30 PM To: isr...@ilopez.com; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wifi on AM Radio Tower? Mike Goicoechea V.P. Of Operations, Cielo Systems International 806-977-9001 ext 101 Skype Mike.Goik m...@cielosystems.net www.cielosystems.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Israel Lopez Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:42 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Wifi on AM Radio Tower? Hello There, I am a volunteer IT guy spending some time in Honduras. I sent the list an email awhile ago for some knowledgeable guys in the WISPA space and I was impressed with some of your members' willingness to help. Im sending you guys a message so i have some feedback. We are here in Juticalpa, Olancho, Honduras. We have a tower that we are housing some multi point equipment on. A low grade omni, with no back haul where other sites use to get connectivity as our Demarc for internet doesnt have LOS to all of our sites. Our sites are schools, 3 of them: Special needs, Elementary, High School. The current problem is the network is slow end to end (from Site - multipoint - demarc(internet) we have 800kbps, and 300ms) over 2.8kilometers. We are putting a plan together to build a backhaul (new radios) and possibly better antenna coverage if it is possible 1) Our multipoint site has two towers available, we are using one of them. 2) The second tower has an AM Radio attached to it. 3) The AM Radio is broadcasting on 650Khz @ 1KW of power on the 100meter tower 4) We have a smaller tower (20Meters) with some 200mW 2.4Ghz Wifi Radio 5) This WIFI radio is acting as a bridge to other sites we cant get LOS. The idea. 1) Rebuild the multi point with a 2.4Ghz back haul PTP, and a new Omni directional radio @ 300mW 2) Move the setup into the 100Meter tower on the same tower with the AM transmitter for better LOS coverage. The expectation of a problem: Will that work? Are we crazy to put a 2.4Ghz antenna @ 300mW on the same tower as an AM Transmitter on 650Khz @ 1KW. I am honestly expecting RF overload on some of the radios to cause problems. If thats not the case, then we could use the higher tower to serve an area better. We are not running a WISP here, mainly providing data connectivity between schools. Let me know what your guys's thoughts are. -Israel WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DVR experience
I've used the IQeye for several years with 5 megapixels giving me a terrific view with fine detail (like license plates 100 feet away at night). http://www.iqeye.com/megapixel-network-security-camera.html They are Web servers in addition to every other possibility you can think of. They automatically switch from day to night BW and become incredibly sensitive to IR. I have a cheap IR lamp that makes the night front acreage look like daytime but is invisible to the human eye. Anyway, they've been totally reliable for several years without a single reboot required. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of jp Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 12:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DVR experience The composite video link is the likely limit for most inexpensive cameras. I used an Axis 240 box a long time ago for a webcam, and it had multiple inputs. The svideo input looked a lot better than the composite, so I used a cheap 2nd hand hi-8 video camera for it's input. svideo is probably no better than 640x480 digital. On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 11:20:25AM -0500, Mike Hammett wrote: Can non-IP cams support higher resolutions? I don't know where, but the analog lines have a limit as to how much you can send over them given that old technology. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 10:49 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] DVR experience What I'm trying to do is not use an expensive high quality ip cams. A couple years ago I did a cam job using a Sony. When I was researching the project I talked to a guy that does cams for a living. He said, for the money you spend on an ip cam, you could get a lot of non ip cams. I don't know very much about cameras, figured there is some experts here on the list that can help educate me-us. D. Ryan Spott wrote: I am using Mobotix for cameras. The DVR software is free. Or the cams can perform the DVR function. Hit me offlist and I can give you a link to 2 I just put up out of 22 for a small city. ryan On Jun 1, 2009, at 6:16 PM, George Rogato wrote: Anyone working with dvr's and cameras that they really like? I'm looking for advice on what is good and what is not. Thanks -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless
[WISPA] OT: WTB 3 2.4 SEctors
Who has 3 PAc Wireless/Lair Vertical 120 deg 16 - 17 db sectors on Stock? need them ASAP! Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: WTB 3 2.4 SEctors
On Tue, 2009-06-02 at 15:12 -0400, Gino Villarini wrote: Who has 3 PAc Wireless/Lair Vertical 120 deg 16 - 17 db sectors on Stock? I have some... 120deg 16dBi VPol Sector Antenna $170 + shipping. 573-276-2879 -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability
It can be done a lot cheaper. But we work hard to do it right not cheap these days. And the corporate veil isn't as strong as it used to be. If your company screws up the officers (that's you) will be named on any suit these days too. marlon - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability Huh? We incorporated in 1997 and I think total cost was less than $500. How do you ever expect to get away from having to do personal guarantees if you don't operate like a real business? Travis Microserv Marlon K. Schafer wrote: One more thing. I don't agree with your definitions per se'. We all have businesses. A proprietorship is a TYPE of business. We are a proprietorship because I'm not incorporated (incorporating is over rated and expensive to do right). I'm still a business though http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sole_proprietorship http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asset marlon - Original Message - From: Charles Wu c...@cticonnect.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability Hi Marlon, I think it's appropriate to make a few definitions and distinctions on things so everyone is on the same page Specifically, for purposes of making my point, I define Proprietorship: A commercial activity engaged in as a means of livelihood or profit Business: A unique system of processes and procedures that documents and codifies a specific method of proprietorship Asset: cash, inventory, equipment, infrastructure, customer contracts, brand, marketing, etc Grin. Sure it is. That's what a LOT of small business people do. It's also kind of common for doctors, dentists, plumbers etc Sometimes it sucks, Now, everything you stated above is just a method of proprietorship, and in most cases, from a sale perspective, a proprietorships isn't worth anything more than the depreciated value of its assets Say you were buying out the local plumber's office -- what would he have of value? His truck? Some old tools? A customer list / brand perhaps (but the reality of things is that customers do business with him because of him, and if you bought him out and he moved out of town, those customers would probably go back to being on the open market) Now, in comparing the WISP 'proprietorship' vs. the plumber, it's worth noting that the WISP is somewhat unique in that it results in the creation of an independent asset that holds onto a lot of value (e.g., the recurring revenue and everything that goes to support it); in many ways, this is akin to real-estate Not everyone out there even wants to get that big (if I had a nickle for every business owner that's told me the most fun they had and the most money they made was when it was just them, no employees..) But then again, that's one of the really cool things about this buisness, it's big enough and flexible enough to allow many different business models and operator dreams to bear fuit! True...and you have the added benefit of building an asset that has value (be happy we're not plumbers =) -Charles WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] OT: WTB 3 2.4 SEctors
I have had significantly better performance from the Til-Tek 2.4 sectors over the Pac Wireless ones. - Matt Josh Luthman wrote: Has anyone used these? I have one in an area where 5.8 is very much used. I find it's not as good as hpol. On 6/2/09, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: On Tue, 2009-06-02 at 15:12 -0400, Gino Villarini wrote: Who has 3 PAc Wireless/Lair Vertical 120 deg 16 - 17 db sectors on Stock? I have some... 120deg 16dBi VPol Sector Antenna $170 + shipping. 573-276-2879 -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/* Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Legal Entity - which type? Was: Quesiton on Funding /Financing / Capital Availability
Let me get my accountant wife to answer that one. Here's Melissa Well, for us it's not yet in our best interest to incorporate. Sometimes the reason for incorporating is to help insulate the individual from a lawsuit - but usually if the corp is sued, they also sue the owner of the corp. I agree with you about the S-Corp - the income from an S-Corp is picked up on your personal return so there aren't usually as many advantages when doing tax planning. We have not incorporated because the cost of being a corp (accounting, legal, another set of books, more time on Melissa's part to work on the books...) is greater to us right now than the benefits. I see it as something that we will probably need to do in the future as our income increases and we need to do more tax planning. Hope that helps. Melissa There ya have it! marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 12:02 PM Subject: [WISPA] Legal Entity - which type? Was: Quesiton on Funding /Financing / Capital Availability Ha! Another interesting topic! In the past, when doing business for myself, I legally filed as a sole-proprietor. When I got into the WISP business, for a multitude of reasons, I became an S-Corp. After filing my taxes, it seems to be much simpler and possibly more advantageous to just be a sole-proprietor. But that goes against all advise I receive. Marlon, I'm actually surprised that you are a sole-proprietor. What benefits have you found by remaining so? -RickG On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: One more thing. I don't agree with your definitions per se'. We all have businesses. A proprietorship is a TYPE of business. We are a proprietorship because I'm not incorporated (incorporating is over rated and expensive to do right). I'm still a business though http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sole_proprietorship http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asset marlon - Original Message - From: Charles Wu c...@cticonnect.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability Hi Marlon, I think it's appropriate to make a few definitions and distinctions on things so everyone is on the same page Specifically, for purposes of making my point, I define Proprietorship: A commercial activity engaged in as a means of livelihood or profit Business: A unique system of processes and procedures that documents and codifies a specific method of proprietorship Asset: cash, inventory, equipment, infrastructure, customer contracts, brand, marketing, etc Grin. Sure it is. That's what a LOT of small business people do. It's also kind of common for doctors, dentists, plumbers etc Sometimes it sucks, Now, everything you stated above is just a method of proprietorship, and in most cases, from a sale perspective, a proprietorships isn't worth anything more than the depreciated value of its assets Say you were buying out the local plumber's office -- what would he have of value? His truck? Some old tools? A customer list / brand perhaps (but the reality of things is that customers do business with him because of him, and if you bought him out and he moved out of town, those customers would probably go back to being on the open market) Now, in comparing the WISP 'proprietorship' vs. the plumber, it's worth noting that the WISP is somewhat unique in that it results in the creation of an independent asset that holds onto a lot of value (e.g., the recurring revenue and everything that goes to support it); in many ways, this is akin to real-estate Not everyone out there even wants to get that big (if I had a nickle for every business owner that's told me the most fun they had and the most money they made was when it was just them, no employees..) But then again, that's one of the really cool things about this buisness, it's big enough and flexible enough to allow many different business models and operator dreams to bear fuit! True...and you have the added benefit of building an asset that has value (be happy we're not plumbers =) -Charles WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability
I read something the other day that indicated that something like 80 to 90% of the businesses out there are 4 people or less. Wish I could remember where that was. I know it was in relation to the recession. In the last recession people working for big companies got hurt, companies with 4 or less people almost all did BETTER. Go figure. marlon - Original Message - From: rea...@muddyfrogwater.us To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability Charles, you really should investigate the business sizes out there. Without doing any research today, I'd say there were more one man band businesses out there than any other type, unless you're going to lump a lot of types together, like all the 2-100 employee businesses. And there's a lot of 2-10 people businesses, as well. How does a one man band work? Hard. And he often serves people who are engaged in similar enterprise. It isn't suited to all, nor even a majority of people, the small sector ( 1 - 10 people ) is probably the most resilient and dynamic of all business models out there. insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Charles Wu c...@cticonnect.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 9:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability Hi Rick, I applaud your effort -- I totally emphasize and understand your perspective, as 8 years ago, I was a one man shop working out of my college dorm room trying to get a business started There is an unfortunate reality that the one-man band is not a sustainable long-term operation -- for example, how will you ever go on a vacation? Or spend quality time with the wife without the ever-present threat / fear that lightening may strike...somewhere WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability
I understand the corporate structure and how it works. I also know that if you follow all the proper corporate bylaws, they can NOT break the corporate barrier. Yes, they will try and list each person individually, but if you have a good attorney, that is a simple motion to get the individuals removed (been there, done that). Travis Microserv Marlon K. Schafer wrote: It can be done a lot cheaper. But we work hard to do it right not cheap these days. And the corporate veil isn't as strong as it used to be. If your company screws up the officers (that's you) will be named on any suit these days too. marlon - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson To: WISPA General List Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability Huh? We incorporated in 1997 and I think total cost was less than $500. How do you ever expect to get away from having to do personal guarantees if you don't operate like a real business? Travis Microserv Marlon K. Schafer wrote: One more thing. I don't agree with your definitions per se'. We all have businesses. A proprietorship is a TYPE of business. We are a proprietorship because I'm not incorporated (incorporating is over rated and expensive to do right). I'm still a business though http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sole_proprietorship http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asset marlon - Original Message - From: Charles Wu c...@cticonnect.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability Hi Marlon, I think it's appropriate to make a few definitions and distinctions on things so everyone is on the same page Specifically, for purposes of making my point, I define Proprietorship: A commercial activity engaged in as a means of livelihood or profit Business: A unique system of processes and procedures that documents and codifies a specific method of proprietorship Asset: cash, inventory, equipment, infrastructure, customer contracts, brand, marketing, etc Grin. Sure it is. That's what a LOT of small business people do. It's also kind of common for doctors, dentists, plumbers etc Sometimes it sucks, Now, everything you stated above is just a method of proprietorship, and in most cases, from a sale perspective, a proprietorships isn't worth anything more than the depreciated value of its assets Say you were buying out the local plumber's office -- what would he have of value? His truck? Some old tools? A customer list / brand perhaps (but the reality of things is that customers do business with him because of him, and if you bought him out and he moved out of town, those customers would probably go back to being on the open market) Now, in comparing the WISP 'proprietorship' vs. the plumber, it's worth noting that the WISP is somewhat unique in that it results in the creation of an independent asset that holds onto a lot of value (e.g., the recurring revenue and everything that goes to support it); in many ways, this is akin to real-estate Not everyone out there even wants to get that big (if I had a nickle for every business owner that's told me the most fun they had and the most money they made was when it was just them, no employees..) But then again, that's one of the really cool things about this buisness, it's big enough and flexible enough to allow many different business models and operator dreams to bear fuit! True...and you have the added benefit of building an asset that has value (be happy we're not plumbers =) -Charles WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Legal Entity - which type? Was: Quesiton on Funding /Financing / Capital Availability
Makes sense to me...thanks! -RickG On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 11:32 PM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: Let me get my accountant wife to answer that one. Here's Melissa Well, for us it's not yet in our best interest to incorporate. Sometimes the reason for incorporating is to help insulate the individual from a lawsuit - but usually if the corp is sued, they also sue the owner of the corp. I agree with you about the S-Corp - the income from an S-Corp is picked up on your personal return so there aren't usually as many advantages when doing tax planning. We have not incorporated because the cost of being a corp (accounting, legal, another set of books, more time on Melissa's part to work on the books...) is greater to us right now than the benefits. I see it as something that we will probably need to do in the future as our income increases and we need to do more tax planning. Hope that helps. Melissa There ya have it! marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 12:02 PM Subject: [WISPA] Legal Entity - which type? Was: Quesiton on Funding /Financing / Capital Availability Ha! Another interesting topic! In the past, when doing business for myself, I legally filed as a sole-proprietor. When I got into the WISP business, for a multitude of reasons, I became an S-Corp. After filing my taxes, it seems to be much simpler and possibly more advantageous to just be a sole-proprietor. But that goes against all advise I receive. Marlon, I'm actually surprised that you are a sole-proprietor. What benefits have you found by remaining so? -RickG On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: One more thing. I don't agree with your definitions per se'. We all have businesses. A proprietorship is a TYPE of business. We are a proprietorship because I'm not incorporated (incorporating is over rated and expensive to do right). I'm still a business though http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sole_proprietorship http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asset marlon - Original Message - From: Charles Wu c...@cticonnect.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Quesiton on Funding / Financing / Capital Availability Hi Marlon, I think it's appropriate to make a few definitions and distinctions on things so everyone is on the same page Specifically, for purposes of making my point, I define Proprietorship: A commercial activity engaged in as a means of livelihood or profit Business: A unique system of processes and procedures that documents and codifies a specific method of proprietorship Asset: cash, inventory, equipment, infrastructure, customer contracts, brand, marketing, etc Grin. Sure it is. That's what a LOT of small business people do. It's also kind of common for doctors, dentists, plumbers etc Sometimes it sucks, Now, everything you stated above is just a method of proprietorship, and in most cases, from a sale perspective, a proprietorships isn't worth anything more than the depreciated value of its assets Say you were buying out the local plumber's office -- what would he have of value? His truck? Some old tools? A customer list / brand perhaps (but the reality of things is that customers do business with him because of him, and if you bought him out and he moved out of town, those customers would probably go back to being on the open market) Now, in comparing the WISP 'proprietorship' vs. the plumber, it's worth noting that the WISP is somewhat unique in that it results in the creation of an independent asset that holds onto a lot of value (e.g., the recurring revenue and everything that goes to support it); in many ways, this is akin to real-estate Not everyone out there even wants to get that big (if I had a nickle for every business owner that's told me the most fun they had and the most money they made was when it was just them, no employees..) But then again, that's one of the really cool things about this buisness, it's big enough and flexible enough to allow many different business models and operator dreams to bear fuit! True...and you have the added benefit of building an asset that has value (be happy we're not plumbers =) -Charles WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Ethernet Cabling
I've been really happy with the Shireen cable. I use the metal shielded for my towers (great stuff at the radio station site we're on) and the double insulated cable for my customers. It's a bit more expensive than some cables, but so far it's proven worth the money. If only they could ship a box that didn't have a busted spool. Crappy packaging all around. But the cable has been great so far. marlon - Original Message - From: Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 8:42 AM Subject: [WISPA] Ethernet Cabling We are getting ready to order ethernet cabling, and looking at some different options for the towers and client installs. I was wondering what people here liked to use. Particularily I'm interested in what you look for in shielding/water protection, should I get a flooded cable, if so with what? Will the gel filled type overheat in the sun? Should i run all of this in conduit, at least for the AP's at the towers? Regards Michael Baird WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] tower fix possible?
That was my thought as a *temporary farmer fix*. 40 lift man lifts aren't that expensive to rent. Just rent a lift or a truck for any work you have to do at this time. Then work with a professional tower company on a permanent repair. I think loosening the guy wires up, lifting the tower with a crane and installing a new lower section (don't forget to REALLY inspect what's below that level as well) should be pretty easy though. marlon - Original Message - From: Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 12:39 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower fix possible? We've seen something like this. Engineer recommended taking the same size pipe. Have it cut in half to form a half-moon. Then use U-clamps and clamp around the stress crack. Being only 40' feet, probably don't have much to worry about. -Cameron -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 3:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] tower fix possible? Ya'll never did any plumbing, huh :) Water inside froze and split it open. The only way I'd stand 3 rungs up on that tower, is if I had a crane holding me up :) insert witty tagline here - Original Message - From: Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 11:30 AM Subject: [WISPA] tower fix possible? http://infowest.us/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItemg2_itemId= 1420 http://infowest.us/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItemg2_itemId= 1418 These pictures are from a small 40' Rohn tower that we are leasing space on. Apparently one of the legs has some sort of stress fracture developing, or there was something wrong with the metal here and it blew out. My first thought was that we had a bullet hole, but there is no hole in the other side. I haven't been on site personally. In any case, we don't want to climb it, and the owner is out of the lower-48 for a few months. Any recommendations for fixing / reinforcing this (other than the obvious - replacing the tower / section)? -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc work: 435-773-6071 email: rco...@infowest.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/randycosby WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP
I have a trango link that's only giving me 2 megs. Sometimes much less. The link is 2.3 or so miles. There are TWO pine trees in the way. What would you guys use? I need to get more speed to the remote tower. thanks, marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: w...@part-15.org Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISP] 900 PtP I just did this set up for a customer. Unfortunately they have ltos of pine trees. The panels didnt cut it and neither did yagis. Big grids did the trick. -RickG On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net wrote: Mikrotik xr9's with arc wireless panels If the link budget supports them. Throw in 411a boards and you have a sweet setup. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net From: Jeremy Grip g...@nbnworks.net Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 7:06 PM To: w...@part-15.org Subject: [WISP] 900 PtP Anyone have any suggestions for a 900 PtP link? 2.5 miles, 25% trees at the far end. Should give me as much BW as possible, support most flavors of QOS for VoIP, and price matters. TIA, Jeremy Grip North Branch Networks, LLC WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [WISP] Valuing a WISP for tax purposes
Tim. Dang I can't remember his last name. He did a lot of speaking at the ISPCon shows. Alex, do you remember Tim's last name? Do you have any feel for current valuations? thanks, marlon - Original Message - From: Norm Young li...@applegatebroadband.net To: w...@part-15.org Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 8:47 AM Subject: RE: [WISP] Valuing a WISP for tax purposes Does anyone know of a person I can talk to that has some information on recent sales of WISPs? Do we have a broker for our industry? I'd like to present the Dept. of Revenue with some comparison data. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Printers
I've been really happy with our 2610d. They aren't made anymore, but should be available somewhere. Kyocera used to make a really good printer. I used to be a factory certified service tech for them. That's been 10 years ago though. Right now we're looking at a Panasonic or Sharp multi function unit. 40ppm copier/printer with built in scanner and network connectivity. They are certainly a lot more money than a printer but we'll get GOOD 11x17 full color pages when we want them. And we'll get a full service contract including toner. $10,000 might be a bit out of your budget for one though. Having said that, this is one piece of hardware I'll lease. One payment will cover the machine and all repairs for the next 5 years. Sometimes it's worth it to not have to wonder if things are going to work or not I was a copier tech and business owner in that industry for many years. I can tell you that you'll almost always come out ahead if you get a service contract. Always if you perform proper maintenance on the machines marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 11:26 AM Subject: [WISPA] OT: Printers I have used HP printers for probably 15 - 20 years. The first printer (680c) probably still works. Anything we've purchased in the past 10 years has been garbage. The DeskJet 6940 just plain stopped working, HP replaced it with a 6980, which after 403 pages I hear is having problems. The OfficeJet 6110 had paper handling issues and stopped auto answering faxes. Replaced it with a 6310, which after 3000 pages had paper handling issues and uses incredible amounts of ink. I hear it has some fax issues as well. What printers are worth a damn? I was recommended to Dell laser MFPs, but I'm not yet sure on spending $500 on a printer if it's not going to be around. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
