[WISPA] High Speed Internet, Bldg 185, Offutt AFB, NE
http://tinyurl.com/kny9a7 Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT backup system, need script clues
Make sure you're not using a serial terminal to paste it in. The MT, perhaps from lack of flow control doesn't take well to large amounts of text being pasted in at high speed via serial. Paste things from ssh/telnet As far as backing up hotspot, I make the hotspot files on the computer (easier for testing the visual), and archive them on the computer. They are then copied to the MT as needed. On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 08:12:05AM -0700, rabbtux rabbtux wrote: any suggestions on necessary edits for export file use? I have an export file from rb450, and want to move its configuration to an rb450ah. I paste the text in the new terminal, but only part of the settings get changed. On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 12:28 PM, cc...@dot11net.com wrote: Agreed...that is why I use export. Then I can modify the script and strip out macs, etc. Just my prefered method. Cameron Scott Reed wrote: RouterOS restore from backup (not export) works to the same model hardware. I'll admit I haven't tried it recently, but it used to be really iffy - since a new system would have a different radio card, and different MACs on the Ethernet interfaces, it always was a horribly error-prone process in my experience. I'll have to grab a spare off the shelf and try this again later. Thanks! :) David Smith MVN.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 2 set of bullet5's and 2 hp2524's + LACP = Problems?
Hello all, I got an issue that I haven't delt with before. note we HAVE done this scenario before just with diff radios and it worked. The Setup.. we have a 3/4 mile long radio shot to one of our towers that we wanted to increase bandwidth to as well as give it some redundancy. So we bought 2 links of bullet5's and 2 pac wireless 2 foot dual pole dishes. ( and yes the output DBM is set to EIRP max with the dishes. ) We get the link up the radios work awesome. -28 to -30 dbm strength. in 54mbps mode. Speedtest on both links shows 26 mbps per radio. I add in the switches which one is set active for the LACP link on ports 22 23 and 24 port 22 is the old backhaul which is a simple cisco 1242 bridged radio link port 23 and 24 are the bullets. ( same on both switches btw ) the other switch is pretty much in default mode, as per HP's config example. I enable the switch ports for the bullets to allow them to link up the lacp and it works fine for a moment then the arp flood from hell happens. Devices all over my network stop responding for long periods of time.random customers stop passing traffic. Nothing I do gets me past this point. A more in depth look at the network for this link for you. Border-Router - Extreme layer3 switch - Core router - HP2624 Switch - Packetshaper 4500ISP - Extreme layer3 switch - hp2524 (lacp) - Cisco + Bullet5's --- Cisco + Bullet5's - HP2524 (lacp) - Canopy CMM - Various AP's. I don't need the Cisco backhaul anylonger however it would be nice to maintain as backup. (Which BTW is linked up at 54mbps as well.) Also I can't seem to ping any devices in the LACP link after they connect. Anyone have any ideas why this is going on? and how to fix it? Thanks in advance Ryan Ghering Network Operations Manager Plains.Net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 2 set of bullet5's and 2 hp2524's + LACP = Problems?
First off a signal strength of -28 or -30 is like someone screaming in your face, kind of impolite. Someone mentioned in the recent past that a customer with -55 needed to be toned down to B from G because of how close they were and the link was significantly better. I wouldn't expect it's part of your problem, though. It looks to me that LACP isn't doing it's job (or whatever device is supposed to make them redundant). You often see this problem when you plug a switch into a switch or a layer 2 device into another layer 2 device, creating a loop. In your case it starts on one side, goes through the link, bounces in the switch and out the other link and vice versa and repeats indefinitely. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I got an issue that I haven't delt with before. note we HAVE done this scenario before just with diff radios and it worked. The Setup.. we have a 3/4 mile long radio shot to one of our towers that we wanted to increase bandwidth to as well as give it some redundancy. So we bought 2 links of bullet5's and 2 pac wireless 2 foot dual pole dishes. ( and yes the output DBM is set to EIRP max with the dishes. ) We get the link up the radios work awesome. -28 to -30 dbm strength. in 54mbps mode. Speedtest on both links shows 26 mbps per radio. I add in the switches which one is set active for the LACP link on ports 22 23 and 24 port 22 is the old backhaul which is a simple cisco 1242 bridged radio link port 23 and 24 are the bullets. ( same on both switches btw ) the other switch is pretty much in default mode, as per HP's config example. I enable the switch ports for the bullets to allow them to link up the lacp and it works fine for a moment then the arp flood from hell happens. Devices all over my network stop responding for long periods of time.random customers stop passing traffic. Nothing I do gets me past this point. A more in depth look at the network for this link for you. Border-Router - Extreme layer3 switch - Core router - HP2624 Switch - Packetshaper 4500ISP - Extreme layer3 switch - hp2524 (lacp) - Cisco + Bullet5's --- Cisco + Bullet5's - HP2524 (lacp) - Canopy CMM - Various AP's. I don't need the Cisco backhaul anylonger however it would be nice to maintain as backup. (Which BTW is linked up at 54mbps as well.) Also I can't seem to ping any devices in the LACP link after they connect. Anyone have any ideas why this is going on? and how to fix it? Thanks in advance Ryan Ghering Network Operations Manager Plains.Net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 2 set of bullet5's and 2 hp2524's + LACP = Problems?
Josh, my apologizes, I wasn't trying to be impolite, or a braggart, just stating facts so that all relevant info is on the table. Ryan On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: First off a signal strength of -28 or -30 is like someone screaming in your face, kind of impolite. Someone mentioned in the recent past that a customer with -55 needed to be toned down to B from G because of how close they were and the link was significantly better. I wouldn't expect it's part of your problem, though. It looks to me that LACP isn't doing it's job (or whatever device is supposed to make them redundant). You often see this problem when you plug a switch into a switch or a layer 2 device into another layer 2 device, creating a loop. In your case it starts on one side, goes through the link, bounces in the switch and out the other link and vice versa and repeats indefinitely. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I got an issue that I haven't delt with before. note we HAVE done this scenario before just with diff radios and it worked. The Setup.. we have a 3/4 mile long radio shot to one of our towers that we wanted to increase bandwidth to as well as give it some redundancy. So we bought 2 links of bullet5's and 2 pac wireless 2 foot dual pole dishes. ( and yes the output DBM is set to EIRP max with the dishes. ) We get the link up the radios work awesome. -28 to -30 dbm strength. in 54mbps mode. Speedtest on both links shows 26 mbps per radio. I add in the switches which one is set active for the LACP link on ports 22 23 and 24 port 22 is the old backhaul which is a simple cisco 1242 bridged radio link port 23 and 24 are the bullets. ( same on both switches btw ) the other switch is pretty much in default mode, as per HP's config example. I enable the switch ports for the bullets to allow them to link up the lacp and it works fine for a moment then the arp flood from hell happens. Devices all over my network stop responding for long periods of time.random customers stop passing traffic. Nothing I do gets me past this point. A more in depth look at the network for this link for you. Border-Router - Extreme layer3 switch - Core router - HP2624 Switch - Packetshaper 4500ISP - Extreme layer3 switch - hp2524 (lacp) - Cisco + Bullet5's --- Cisco + Bullet5's - HP2524 (lacp) - Canopy CMM - Various AP's. I don't need the Cisco backhaul anylonger however it would be nice to maintain as backup. (Which BTW is linked up at 54mbps as well.) Also I can't seem to ping any devices in the LACP link after they connect. Anyone have any ideas why this is going on? and how to fix it? Thanks in advance Ryan Ghering Network Operations Manager Plains.Net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 2 set of bullet5's and 2 hp2524's + LACP = Problems?
I think the ubnt radios alter or do some funny magic with the mac addresses when bridging. For a clear bridge, try using them in wds, which will of course prevent adequate security. I would also turn the power down a little, -28 will do more harm than good especially if you're trying to put two on a dish. I understand the bullets can't be turned down below 1 or 10dbm afaik. I would use HP's trunking instead of lacp and use each link as a trunk port. 2524--radio--radio--2524 The switch would still play dumb though if a link went down and half your traffic would be botched, based on how the HP divies up the traffic by mac address. You'd have to have a 26xx switch which can determine link state across a trunk port via keepalive traffic instead of interface status. Things to get you beyond 26mbps might include a MT link (30-35mbps), trangolink45 (which works at 5.4ghz as well), or alvarion b100 gear, or VL gear (about 32mbps) On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 08:39:00AM -0600, Ryan Ghering wrote: Hello all, I got an issue that I haven't delt with before. note we HAVE done this scenario before just with diff radios and it worked. The Setup.. we have a 3/4 mile long radio shot to one of our towers that we wanted to increase bandwidth to as well as give it some redundancy. So we bought 2 links of bullet5's and 2 pac wireless 2 foot dual pole dishes. ( and yes the output DBM is set to EIRP max with the dishes. ) We get the link up the radios work awesome. -28 to -30 dbm strength. in 54mbps mode. Speedtest on both links shows 26 mbps per radio. I add in the switches which one is set active for the LACP link on ports 22 23 and 24 port 22 is the old backhaul which is a simple cisco 1242 bridged radio link port 23 and 24 are the bullets. ( same on both switches btw ) the other switch is pretty much in default mode, as per HP's config example. I enable the switch ports for the bullets to allow them to link up the lacp and it works fine for a moment then the arp flood from hell happens. Devices all over my network stop responding for long periods of time.random customers stop passing traffic. Nothing I do gets me past this point. A more in depth look at the network for this link for you. Border-Router - Extreme layer3 switch - Core router - HP2624 Switch - Packetshaper 4500ISP - Extreme layer3 switch - hp2524 (lacp) - Cisco + Bullet5's --- Cisco + Bullet5's - HP2524 (lacp) - Canopy CMM - Various AP's. I don't need the Cisco backhaul anylonger however it would be nice to maintain as backup. (Which BTW is linked up at 54mbps as well.) Also I can't seem to ping any devices in the LACP link after they connect. Anyone have any ideas why this is going on? and how to fix it? Thanks in advance Ryan Ghering Network Operations Manager Plains.Net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 2 set of bullet5's and 2 hp2524's + LACP = Problems?
Are the bullets in WDS mode, if not you will have proxy ARP for one direction and not the other. This will really mess with routing/link protocols. Fire up wireshark and post a short capture (starting before adding the links to right after adding them). If you add just one link or the other, does it still behave the same way. Ryan Ghering wrote: Hello all, I got an issue that I haven't delt with before. note we HAVE done this scenario before just with diff radios and it worked. The Setup.. we have a 3/4 mile long radio shot to one of our towers that we wanted to increase bandwidth to as well as give it some redundancy. So we bought 2 links of bullet5's and 2 pac wireless 2 foot dual pole dishes. ( and yes the output DBM is set to EIRP max with the dishes. ) We get the link up the radios work awesome. -28 to -30 dbm strength. in 54mbps mode. Speedtest on both links shows 26 mbps per radio. I add in the switches which one is set active for the LACP link on ports 22 23 and 24 port 22 is the old backhaul which is a simple cisco 1242 bridged radio link port 23 and 24 are the bullets. ( same on both switches btw ) the other switch is pretty much in default mode, as per HP's config example. I enable the switch ports for the bullets to allow them to link up the lacp and it works fine for a moment then the arp flood from hell happens. Devices all over my network stop responding for long periods of time.random customers stop passing traffic. Nothing I do gets me past this point. A more in depth look at the network for this link for you. Border-Router - Extreme layer3 switch - Core router - HP2624 Switch - Packetshaper 4500ISP - Extreme layer3 switch - hp2524 (lacp) - Cisco + Bullet5's --- Cisco + Bullet5's - HP2524 (lacp) - Canopy CMM - Various AP's. I don't need the Cisco backhaul anylonger however it would be nice to maintain as backup. (Which BTW is linked up at 54mbps as well.) Also I can't seem to ping any devices in the LACP link after they connect. Anyone have any ideas why this is going on? and how to fix it? Thanks in advance Ryan Ghering Network Operations Manager Plains.Net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 2 set of bullet5's and 2 hp2524's + LACP = Problems?
Ryan, Let me say this differently. I'm not saying it's bad that your bragging, I'm saying that the signal strength could be too high. If you put two antennas adjacent and get a 0 or -1 signal strength you get significant packet gain because the hardware can't keep up with the RF. I suck at words, sorry =( Do you see my point now? Good point - Are the bullets in WDS mode. I forgot AirOS doesn't do WDS by default. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: Josh, my apologizes, I wasn't trying to be impolite, or a braggart, just stating facts so that all relevant info is on the table. Ryan On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: First off a signal strength of -28 or -30 is like someone screaming in your face, kind of impolite. Someone mentioned in the recent past that a customer with -55 needed to be toned down to B from G because of how close they were and the link was significantly better. I wouldn't expect it's part of your problem, though. It looks to me that LACP isn't doing it's job (or whatever device is supposed to make them redundant). You often see this problem when you plug a switch into a switch or a layer 2 device into another layer 2 device, creating a loop. In your case it starts on one side, goes through the link, bounces in the switch and out the other link and vice versa and repeats indefinitely. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I got an issue that I haven't delt with before. note we HAVE done this scenario before just with diff radios and it worked. The Setup.. we have a 3/4 mile long radio shot to one of our towers that we wanted to increase bandwidth to as well as give it some redundancy. So we bought 2 links of bullet5's and 2 pac wireless 2 foot dual pole dishes. ( and yes the output DBM is set to EIRP max with the dishes. ) We get the link up the radios work awesome. -28 to -30 dbm strength. in 54mbps mode. Speedtest on both links shows 26 mbps per radio. I add in the switches which one is set active for the LACP link on ports 22 23 and 24 port 22 is the old backhaul which is a simple cisco 1242 bridged radio link port 23 and 24 are the bullets. ( same on both switches btw ) the other switch is pretty much in default mode, as per HP's config example. I enable the switch ports for the bullets to allow them to link up the lacp and it works fine for a moment then the arp flood from hell happens. Devices all over my network stop responding for long periods of time.random customers stop passing traffic. Nothing I do gets me past this point. A more in depth look at the network for this link for you. Border-Router - Extreme layer3 switch - Core router - HP2624 Switch - Packetshaper 4500ISP - Extreme layer3 switch - hp2524 (lacp) - Cisco + Bullet5's --- Cisco + Bullet5's - HP2524 (lacp) - Canopy CMM - Various AP's. I don't need the Cisco backhaul anylonger however it would be nice to maintain as backup. (Which BTW is linked up at 54mbps as well.) Also I can't seem to ping any devices in the LACP link after they connect. Anyone have any ideas why this is going on? and how to fix it? Thanks in advance Ryan Ghering Network Operations Manager Plains.Net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] 2 set of bullet5's and 2 hp2524's + LACP = Problems?
Make sure all your ports at set in at the same ethernet link speed that are running lacp. For testing does it work if you run RSTP instead? jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: Are the bullets in WDS mode, if not you will have proxy ARP for one direction and not the other. This will really mess with routing/link protocols. Fire up wireshark and post a short capture (starting before adding the links to right after adding them). If you add just one link or the other, does it still behave the same way. Ryan Ghering wrote: Hello all, I got an issue that I haven't delt with before. note we HAVE done this scenario before just with diff radios and it worked. The Setup.. we have a 3/4 mile long radio shot to one of our towers that we wanted to increase bandwidth to as well as give it some redundancy. So we bought 2 links of bullet5's and 2 pac wireless 2 foot dual pole dishes. ( and yes the output DBM is set to EIRP max with the dishes. ) We get the link up the radios work awesome. -28 to -30 dbm strength. in 54mbps mode. Speedtest on both links shows 26 mbps per radio. I add in the switches which one is set active for the LACP link on ports 22 23 and 24 port 22 is the old backhaul which is a simple cisco 1242 bridged radio link port 23 and 24 are the bullets. ( same on both switches btw ) the other switch is pretty much in default mode, as per HP's config example. I enable the switch ports for the bullets to allow them to link up the lacp and it works fine for a moment then the arp flood from hell happens. Devices all over my network stop responding for long periods of time.random customers stop passing traffic. Nothing I do gets me past this point. A more in depth look at the network for this link for you. Border-Router - Extreme layer3 switch - Core router - HP2624 Switch - Packetshaper 4500ISP - Extreme layer3 switch - hp2524 (lacp) - Cisco + Bullet5's --- Cisco + Bullet5's - HP2524 (lacp) - Canopy CMM - Various AP's. I don't need the Cisco backhaul anylonger however it would be nice to maintain as backup. (Which BTW is linked up at 54mbps as well.) Also I can't seem to ping any devices in the LACP link after they connect. Anyone have any ideas why this is going on? and how to fix it? Thanks in advance Ryan Ghering Network Operations Manager Plains.Net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] residential repeater site contract
Thank you for sharing, Rick! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 9:22 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Attached...RickG On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 5:39 PM, sa...@jeffcosoho.com sa...@jeffcosoho.comwrote: Anyone have a contract they could share for this? Thanx Jim WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 2 set of bullet5's and 2 hp2524's + LACP = Problems?
I didn't have the radios is WDS mode, its works perfectly now. Although I still can't get to the units after LACP is linked. Gota find a way around that. Ryan On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.comwrote: Make sure all your ports at set in at the same ethernet link speed that are running lacp. For testing does it work if you run RSTP instead? jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: Are the bullets in WDS mode, if not you will have proxy ARP for one direction and not the other. This will really mess with routing/link protocols. Fire up wireshark and post a short capture (starting before adding the links to right after adding them). If you add just one link or the other, does it still behave the same way. Ryan Ghering wrote: Hello all, I got an issue that I haven't delt with before. note we HAVE done this scenario before just with diff radios and it worked. The Setup.. we have a 3/4 mile long radio shot to one of our towers that we wanted to increase bandwidth to as well as give it some redundancy. So we bought 2 links of bullet5's and 2 pac wireless 2 foot dual pole dishes. ( and yes the output DBM is set to EIRP max with the dishes. ) We get the link up the radios work awesome. -28 to -30 dbm strength. in 54mbps mode. Speedtest on both links shows 26 mbps per radio. I add in the switches which one is set active for the LACP link on ports 22 23 and 24 port 22 is the old backhaul which is a simple cisco 1242 bridged radio link port 23 and 24 are the bullets. ( same on both switches btw ) the other switch is pretty much in default mode, as per HP's config example. I enable the switch ports for the bullets to allow them to link up the lacp and it works fine for a moment then the arp flood from hell happens. Devices all over my network stop responding for long periods of time.random customers stop passing traffic. Nothing I do gets me past this point. A more in depth look at the network for this link for you. Border-Router - Extreme layer3 switch - Core router - HP2624 Switch - Packetshaper 4500ISP - Extreme layer3 switch - hp2524 (lacp) - Cisco + Bullet5's --- Cisco + Bullet5's - HP2524 (lacp) - Canopy CMM - Various AP's. I don't need the Cisco backhaul anylonger however it would be nice to maintain as backup. (Which BTW is linked up at 54mbps as well.) Also I can't seem to ping any devices in the LACP link after they connect. Anyone have any ideas why this is going on? and how to fix it? Thanks in advance Ryan Ghering Network Operations Manager Plains.Net WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 2 set of bullet5's and 2 hp2524's + LACP = Problems?
Did you get what he was saying about the signal strength? You're going to want your signal around -60 or so. I think anything above -50 really causes noise problems. I had to go through and audit many units on our network just because of the pollution is causes when several backhauls and clients are talking too loud between one another. -20 to -30 would definitely cause you RF problems in the future and your neighbors if any. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Ghering Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:54 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2 set of bullet5's and 2 hp2524's + LACP = Problems? I didn't have the radios is WDS mode, its works perfectly now. Although I still can't get to the units after LACP is linked. Gota find a way around that. Ryan On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.comwrote: Make sure all your ports at set in at the same ethernet link speed that are running lacp. For testing does it work if you run RSTP instead? jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: Are the bullets in WDS mode, if not you will have proxy ARP for one direction and not the other. This will really mess with routing/link protocols. Fire up wireshark and post a short capture (starting before adding the links to right after adding them). If you add just one link or the other, does it still behave the same way. Ryan Ghering wrote: Hello all, I got an issue that I haven't delt with before. note we HAVE done this scenario before just with diff radios and it worked. The Setup.. we have a 3/4 mile long radio shot to one of our towers that we wanted to increase bandwidth to as well as give it some redundancy. So we bought 2 links of bullet5's and 2 pac wireless 2 foot dual pole dishes. ( and yes the output DBM is set to EIRP max with the dishes. ) We get the link up the radios work awesome. -28 to -30 dbm strength. in 54mbps mode. Speedtest on both links shows 26 mbps per radio. I add in the switches which one is set active for the LACP link on ports 22 23 and 24 port 22 is the old backhaul which is a simple cisco 1242 bridged radio link port 23 and 24 are the bullets. ( same on both switches btw ) the other switch is pretty much in default mode, as per HP's config example. I enable the switch ports for the bullets to allow them to link up the lacp and it works fine for a moment then the arp flood from hell happens. Devices all over my network stop responding for long periods of time.random customers stop passing traffic. Nothing I do gets me past this point. A more in depth look at the network for this link for you. Border-Router - Extreme layer3 switch - Core router - HP2624 Switch - Packetshaper 4500ISP - Extreme layer3 switch - hp2524 (lacp) - Cisco + Bullet5's --- Cisco + Bullet5's - HP2524 (lacp) - Canopy CMM - Various AP's. I don't need the Cisco backhaul anylonger however it would be nice to maintain as backup. (Which BTW is linked up at 54mbps as well.) Also I can't seem to ping any devices in the LACP link after they connect. Anyone have any ideas why this is going on? and how to fix it? Thanks in advance Ryan Ghering Network Operations Manager Plains.Net WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.90/2198 - Release Date: 06/25/09
Re: [WISPA] 2 set of bullet5's and 2 hp2524's + LACP = Problems?
Yea I got that, I've got both links now at -58 had to lower the power down big time. Ryan On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.comwrote: Did you get what he was saying about the signal strength? You're going to want your signal around -60 or so. I think anything above -50 really causes noise problems. I had to go through and audit many units on our network just because of the pollution is causes when several backhauls and clients are talking too loud between one another. -20 to -30 would definitely cause you RF problems in the future and your neighbors if any. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Ghering Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:54 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2 set of bullet5's and 2 hp2524's + LACP = Problems? I didn't have the radios is WDS mode, its works perfectly now. Although I still can't get to the units after LACP is linked. Gota find a way around that. Ryan On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.comwrote: Make sure all your ports at set in at the same ethernet link speed that are running lacp. For testing does it work if you run RSTP instead? jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: Are the bullets in WDS mode, if not you will have proxy ARP for one direction and not the other. This will really mess with routing/link protocols. Fire up wireshark and post a short capture (starting before adding the links to right after adding them). If you add just one link or the other, does it still behave the same way. Ryan Ghering wrote: Hello all, I got an issue that I haven't delt with before. note we HAVE done this scenario before just with diff radios and it worked. The Setup.. we have a 3/4 mile long radio shot to one of our towers that we wanted to increase bandwidth to as well as give it some redundancy. So we bought 2 links of bullet5's and 2 pac wireless 2 foot dual pole dishes. ( and yes the output DBM is set to EIRP max with the dishes. ) We get the link up the radios work awesome. -28 to -30 dbm strength. in 54mbps mode. Speedtest on both links shows 26 mbps per radio. I add in the switches which one is set active for the LACP link on ports 22 23 and 24 port 22 is the old backhaul which is a simple cisco 1242 bridged radio link port 23 and 24 are the bullets. ( same on both switches btw ) the other switch is pretty much in default mode, as per HP's config example. I enable the switch ports for the bullets to allow them to link up the lacp and it works fine for a moment then the arp flood from hell happens. Devices all over my network stop responding for long periods of time.random customers stop passing traffic. Nothing I do gets me past this point. A more in depth look at the network for this link for you. Border-Router - Extreme layer3 switch - Core router - HP2624 Switch - Packetshaper 4500ISP - Extreme layer3 switch - hp2524 (lacp) - Cisco + Bullet5's --- Cisco + Bullet5's - HP2524 (lacp) - Canopy CMM - Various AP's. I don't need the Cisco backhaul anylonger however it would be nice to maintain as backup. (Which BTW is linked up at 54mbps as well.) Also I can't seem to ping any devices in the LACP link after they connect. Anyone have any ideas why this is going on? and how to fix it? Thanks in advance Ryan Ghering Network Operations Manager Plains.Net WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] 2 set of bullet5's and 2 hp2524's + LACP = Problems?
As many have responded the signal is way too high. Also, I'm curious if you have the Bullets in 'bridge mode' or 'route mode'? -RickG On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Ryan Gheringrgher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I got an issue that I haven't delt with before. note we HAVE done this scenario before just with diff radios and it worked. The Setup.. we have a 3/4 mile long radio shot to one of our towers that we wanted to increase bandwidth to as well as give it some redundancy. So we bought 2 links of bullet5's and 2 pac wireless 2 foot dual pole dishes. ( and yes the output DBM is set to EIRP max with the dishes. ) We get the link up the radios work awesome. -28 to -30 dbm strength. in 54mbps mode. Speedtest on both links shows 26 mbps per radio. I add in the switches which one is set active for the LACP link on ports 22 23 and 24 port 22 is the old backhaul which is a simple cisco 1242 bridged radio link port 23 and 24 are the bullets. ( same on both switches btw ) the other switch is pretty much in default mode, as per HP's config example. I enable the switch ports for the bullets to allow them to link up the lacp and it works fine for a moment then the arp flood from hell happens. Devices all over my network stop responding for long periods of time.random customers stop passing traffic. Nothing I do gets me past this point. A more in depth look at the network for this link for you. Border-Router - Extreme layer3 switch - Core router - HP2624 Switch - Packetshaper 4500ISP - Extreme layer3 switch - hp2524 (lacp) - Cisco + Bullet5's --- Cisco + Bullet5's - HP2524 (lacp) - Canopy CMM - Various AP's. I don't need the Cisco backhaul anylonger however it would be nice to maintain as backup. (Which BTW is linked up at 54mbps as well.) Also I can't seem to ping any devices in the LACP link after they connect. Anyone have any ideas why this is going on? and how to fix it? Thanks in advance Ryan Ghering Network Operations Manager Plains.Net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 2 set of bullet5's and 2 hp2524's + LACP = Problems?
Before - station mode (in other terms, bridge mode with arp proxy) After - station wds mode (a real layer 2 bridge this time =) Ubiquiti AirOS calls them station, station wds and router. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:42 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: As many have responded the signal is way too high. Also, I'm curious if you have the Bullets in 'bridge mode' or 'route mode'? -RickG On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Ryan Gheringrgher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I got an issue that I haven't delt with before. note we HAVE done this scenario before just with diff radios and it worked. The Setup.. we have a 3/4 mile long radio shot to one of our towers that we wanted to increase bandwidth to as well as give it some redundancy. So we bought 2 links of bullet5's and 2 pac wireless 2 foot dual pole dishes. ( and yes the output DBM is set to EIRP max with the dishes. ) We get the link up the radios work awesome. -28 to -30 dbm strength. in 54mbps mode. Speedtest on both links shows 26 mbps per radio. I add in the switches which one is set active for the LACP link on ports 22 23 and 24 port 22 is the old backhaul which is a simple cisco 1242 bridged radio link port 23 and 24 are the bullets. ( same on both switches btw ) the other switch is pretty much in default mode, as per HP's config example. I enable the switch ports for the bullets to allow them to link up the lacp and it works fine for a moment then the arp flood from hell happens. Devices all over my network stop responding for long periods of time.random customers stop passing traffic. Nothing I do gets me past this point. A more in depth look at the network for this link for you. Border-Router - Extreme layer3 switch - Core router - HP2624 Switch - Packetshaper 4500ISP - Extreme layer3 switch - hp2524 (lacp) - Cisco + Bullet5's --- Cisco + Bullet5's - HP2524 (lacp) - Canopy CMM - Various AP's. I don't need the Cisco backhaul anylonger however it would be nice to maintain as backup. (Which BTW is linked up at 54mbps as well.) Also I can't seem to ping any devices in the LACP link after they connect. Anyone have any ideas why this is going on? and how to fix it? Thanks in advance Ryan Ghering Network Operations Manager Plains.Net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] residential repeater site contract
My repeater contact is simple. If un-served-behind-the-big-rock-customer (USBTBR) wants service, they need to talk to their neighbor about it. If they establish some sort dialog, then the house-with-service-customer (HWSC) calls me to tell me it is OK. I find that this makes it a community/neighbor issue and really cuts down on you have been on my roof for a year with 3 customers, I want $5K a month rent now sorts of calls). I give a $5 per month discount to the HWSC for the first USBTBRr they repeat to. After the second USBTBR is using the repeater, the house-with-service customer is no longer billed. We usually don't even tell them we stopped billing them. They call us after a month or 4 and ask us why there have been no debits. Then we tell them. :) Because there is: a financial incentive (free or reduced cost service and See's Chocolate delivered by my daughter during the holidays), a broadband incentive (I usually put these people on my 5.8Ghz backbone), and a good neighbor incentive (some USBTBR have mowed the house-with-service-customer's lawns, baked pies etc) We often get house-with-service-customers giving us access to their backup generators, rebooting our equipment for us etc. Some things I have learned: 1. NEVER tell the USBTBR that the house-with-service-customer is getting free or reduced cost service. 2. If you PoE is inside the HWSC home, install some sort of female-female coupler in a weather resistant box at ground level so you can come onto the property for reboots without entering the house or climbing on the roof. 3. Never tell the USBTBR that this reboot device exists, but let the HWSC know it is there and let them tell the others if they wish. This reduces all of the neighbors coming across the lawn to reboot what they think is a bad repeater. The HWSC will generally let one or 2 trusted neighbors know the reboot thing is there. 4. Keep the roof traffic down to a minimum. Asphalt shingles begin to wear out after a while causing concern with residential owners. 5. Keep the truck traffic down to daylight hours and tell the HWSC that you won't even knock on their door and disturb them if you are just coming for a reboot or quick service call. Of course, a few of my HWSC DO want me to tell them I am there, and I do. 6. Establish with your USBTBRs FIRST OFF that they are behind a repeater that is there due to the good graces of the HWSC. Therefore, if service drops in the middle of the nigh, you are not going to wake someone up to do a reboot, nor are you going to risk getting shot running to that person's house to reboot the repeater. ryan Josh Luthman wrote: Thank you for sharing, Rick! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 9:22 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Attached...RickG On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 5:39 PM, sa...@jeffcosoho.com sa...@jeffcosoho.comwrote: Anyone have a contract they could share for this? Thanx Jim WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] LNP Services
I think that Synchronoss Technologies, Inc. provides porting services Kathy. -Original Message- From: Kathy Tate [mailto:kt...@onlinenw.com] Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 1:26 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] LNP Services We are a WISP and a CLEC and have our own SS7 gateway that we have used for our dialup base. We are in the process of launching our own voice service utilizing our existing SS7 gateway. I would like to outsource the LNP process. I was hoping someone might have a vendor recommendation. Thank you. Kathy Tate Chief Executive Officer OnlineNW mailto:kt...@onlinenw.com kt...@onlinenw.com 503.883.9200 ext. 278 www.onlinenw.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Macintosh computer trouble shoot docs.
Anyone have a doc that describes basic wireless card troubleshooting for users who have macs? We are staring to see more users with macs and our support is not that familiar with these. Thanks for any help anyone may can offer.. http://www.aerowire.net Alan Long Director of Network Operations Aerowire http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmapaddr=687+North+Dean+Roadcsz=Aubu rn%2C+AL+36830country=us 687 North Dean Road Auburn, AL 36830 mailto:alan.l...@aerowire.net alan.l...@aerowire.net tel: mobile: http://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?lang=ensrc=jj_signatureTo=3342759998E mail=along5...@yahoo.com 3342759998 http://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?lang=ensrc=jj_signatureTo=336092E mail=along5...@yahoo.com 336092 https://www.plaxo.com/add_me?u=30065206883src=client_sig_212_1_card_joini nvite=1=en Always have my latest info http://www.plaxo.com/signature?src=client_sig_212_1_card_sig=en Want a signature like this? image001.jpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] dual ethernte port router
Anyone have a suggestion for a dual ethernet port router, that can handle 30-50mb/s of traffic. I do not need it to do nat or anything like that, just need it to route..I have looked at a cisco 2811..but know there are other options..Thanks for any help. http://www.aerowire.net Alan Long Director of Network Operations Aerowire http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmapaddr=687+North+Dean+Roadcsz=Aubu rn%2C+AL+36830country=us 687 North Dean Road Auburn, AL 36830 mailto:alan.l...@aerowire.net alan.l...@aerowire.net tel: mobile: http://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?lang=ensrc=jj_signatureTo=3342759998E mail=along5...@yahoo.com 3342759998 http://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?lang=ensrc=jj_signatureTo=336092E mail=along5...@yahoo.com 336092 https://www.plaxo.com/add_me?u=30065206883src=client_sig_212_1_card_joini nvite=1=en Always have my latest info http://www.plaxo.com/signature?src=client_sig_212_1_card_sig=en Want a signature like this? image001.jpg WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router
Mikrotik rb450 $99 Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Alan Long Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 3:59 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router Anyone have a suggestion for a dual ethernet port router, that can handle 30-50mb/s of traffic. I do not need it to do nat or anything like that, just need it to route..I have looked at a cisco 2811..but know there are other options..Thanks for any help. http://www.aerowire.net Alan Long Director of Network Operations Aerowire http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmapaddr=687+North+Dean+Roadcsz= Aubu rn%2C+AL+36830country=us 687 North Dean Road Auburn, AL 36830 mailto:alan.l...@aerowire.net alan.l...@aerowire.net tel: mobile: http://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?lang=ensrc=jj_signatureTo=33427599 98E mail=along5...@yahoo.com 3342759998 http://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?lang=ensrc=jj_signatureTo=3360 92E mail=along5...@yahoo.com 336092 https://www.plaxo.com/add_me?u=30065206883src=client_sig_212_1_card_jo ini nvite=1=en Always have my latest info http://www.plaxo.com/signature?src=client_sig_212_1_card_sig=en Want a signature like this? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 2 set of bullet5's and 2 hp2524's + LACP = Problems?
Now, you have no encryption. On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:47:13PM -0400, Josh Luthman wrote: Before - station mode (in other terms, bridge mode with arp proxy) After - station wds mode (a real layer 2 bridge this time =) Ubiquiti AirOS calls them station, station wds and router. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:42 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: As many have responded the signal is way too high. Also, I'm curious if you have the Bullets in 'bridge mode' or 'route mode'? -RickG On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Ryan Gheringrgher...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I got an issue that I haven't delt with before. note we HAVE done this scenario before just with diff radios and it worked. The Setup.. we have a 3/4 mile long radio shot to one of our towers that we wanted to increase bandwidth to as well as give it some redundancy. So we bought 2 links of bullet5's and 2 pac wireless 2 foot dual pole dishes. ( and yes the output DBM is set to EIRP max with the dishes. ) We get the link up the radios work awesome. -28 to -30 dbm strength. in 54mbps mode. Speedtest on both links shows 26 mbps per radio. I add in the switches which one is set active for the LACP link on ports 22 23 and 24 port 22 is the old backhaul which is a simple cisco 1242 bridged radio link port 23 and 24 are the bullets. ( same on both switches btw ) the other switch is pretty much in default mode, as per HP's config example. I enable the switch ports for the bullets to allow them to link up the lacp and it works fine for a moment then the arp flood from hell happens. Devices all over my network stop responding for long periods of time.random customers stop passing traffic. Nothing I do gets me past this point. A more in depth look at the network for this link for you. Border-Router - Extreme layer3 switch - Core router - HP2624 Switch - Packetshaper 4500ISP - Extreme layer3 switch - hp2524 (lacp) - Cisco + Bullet5's --- Cisco + Bullet5's - HP2524 (lacp) - Canopy CMM - Various AP's. I don't need the Cisco backhaul anylonger however it would be nice to maintain as backup. (Which BTW is linked up at 54mbps as well.) Also I can't seem to ping any devices in the LACP link after they connect. Anyone have any ideas why this is going on? and how to fix it? Thanks in advance Ryan Ghering Network Operations Manager Plains.Net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router
Might as well go with the 450G for gigabit ports, more memory, etc. Gino Villarini wrote: Mikrotik rb450 $99 Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Alan Long Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 3:59 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router Anyone have a suggestion for a dual ethernet port router, that can handle 30-50mb/s of traffic. I do not need it to do nat or anything like that, just need it to route..I have looked at a cisco 2811..but know there are other options..Thanks for any help. http://www.aerowire.net Alan Long Director of Network Operations Aerowire http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmapaddr=687+North+Dean+Roadcsz= Aubu rn%2C+AL+36830country=us 687 North Dean Road Auburn, AL 36830 mailto:alan.l...@aerowire.net alan.l...@aerowire.net tel: mobile: http://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?lang=ensrc=jj_signatureTo=33427599 98E mail=along5...@yahoo.com 3342759998 http://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?lang=ensrc=jj_signatureTo=3360 92E mail=along5...@yahoo.com 336092 https://www.plaxo.com/add_me?u=30065206883src=client_sig_212_1_card_jo ini nvite=1=en Always have my latest info http://www.plaxo.com/signature?src=client_sig_212_1_card_sig=en Want a signature like this? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Randy Cosby Vice President InfoWest, Inc work: 435-773-6071 email: rco...@infowest.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/randycosby WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] residential repeater site contract
Thanx Rick Jim RickG wrote: Attached...RickG On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 5:39 PM, sa...@jeffcosoho.com sa...@jeffcosoho.comwrote: Anyone have a contract they could share for this? Thanx Jim WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router
If you are ONLY going to route, no NAT, firewall or other stuff, then a Cisco 871 will do what you want. We have tested it at wirespeed. John Alan Long wrote: Anyone have a suggestion for a dual ethernet port router, that can handle 30-50mb/s of traffic. I do not need it to do nat or anything like that, just need it to route..I have looked at a cisco 2811..but know there are other options..Thanks for any help. http://www.aerowire.net Alan Long Director of Network Operations Aerowire http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmapaddr=687+North+Dean+Roadcsz=Aubu rn%2C+AL+36830country=us 687 North Dean Road Auburn, AL 36830 mailto:alan.l...@aerowire.net alan.l...@aerowire.net tel: mobile: http://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?lang=ensrc=jj_signatureTo=3342759998E mail=along5...@yahoo.com 3342759998 http://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?lang=ensrc=jj_signatureTo=336092E mail=along5...@yahoo.com 336092 https://www.plaxo.com/add_me?u=30065206883src=client_sig_212_1_card_joini nvite=1=en Always have my latest info http://www.plaxo.com/signature?src=client_sig_212_1_card_sig=en Want a signature like this? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router
I've been putting in the 9 port (yeah I know it's more than you want but that gives you more power and memory) MT units. They are AMAZING. So far. marlon - Original Message - From: Alan Long alan.l...@aerowire.net To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 12:59 PM Subject: [WISPA] dual ethernte port router Anyone have a suggestion for a dual ethernet port router, that can handle 30-50mb/s of traffic. I do not need it to do nat or anything like that, just need it to route..I have looked at a cisco 2811..but know there are other options..Thanks for any help. http://www.aerowire.net Alan Long Director of Network Operations Aerowire http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmapaddr=687+North+Dean+Roadcsz=Aubu rn%2C+AL+36830country=us 687 North Dean Road Auburn, AL 36830 mailto:alan.l...@aerowire.net alan.l...@aerowire.net tel: mobile: http://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?lang=ensrc=jj_signatureTo=3342759998E mail=along5...@yahoo.com 3342759998 http://www.plaxo.com/click_to_call?lang=ensrc=jj_signatureTo=336092E mail=along5...@yahoo.com 336092 https://www.plaxo.com/add_me?u=30065206883src=client_sig_212_1_card_joini nvite=1=en Always have my latest info http://www.plaxo.com/signature?src=client_sig_212_1_card_sig=en Want a signature like this? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 2 set of bullet5's and 2 hp2524's + LACP = Problems?
Excellent point - I have always said less is more How's the County wifi project coming? __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 8:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2 set of bullet5's and 2 hp2524's + LACP = Problems? I try to keep mine in the -65 to -75 range. Why? Multipath will often be around 30db less than your main signal. You want to try to keep the main signal low enough that the average multipath is below the receiver threshold. marlon - Original Message - From: Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2 set of bullet5's and 2 hp2524's + LACP = Problems? Did you get what he was saying about the signal strength? You're going to want your signal around -60 or so. I think anything above -50 really causes noise problems. I had to go through and audit many units on our network just because of the pollution is causes when several backhauls and clients are talking too loud between one another. -20 to -30 would definitely cause you RF problems in the future and your neighbors if any. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Ghering Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:54 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2 set of bullet5's and 2 hp2524's + LACP = Problems? I didn't have the radios is WDS mode, its works perfectly now. Although I still can't get to the units after LACP is linked. Gota find a way around that. Ryan On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.comwrote: Make sure all your ports at set in at the same ethernet link speed that are running lacp. For testing does it work if you run RSTP instead? jree...@18-30chat.net wrote: Are the bullets in WDS mode, if not you will have proxy ARP for one direction and not the other. This will really mess with routing/link protocols. Fire up wireshark and post a short capture (starting before adding the links to right after adding them). If you add just one link or the other, does it still behave the same way. Ryan Ghering wrote: Hello all, I got an issue that I haven't delt with before. note we HAVE done this scenario before just with diff radios and it worked. The Setup.. we have a 3/4 mile long radio shot to one of our towers that we wanted to increase bandwidth to as well as give it some redundancy. So we bought 2 links of bullet5's and 2 pac wireless 2 foot dual pole dishes. ( and yes the output DBM is set to EIRP max with the dishes. ) We get the link up the radios work awesome. -28 to -30 dbm strength. in 54mbps mode. Speedtest on both links shows 26 mbps per radio. I add in the switches which one is set active for the LACP link on ports 22 23 and 24 port 22 is the old backhaul which is a simple cisco 1242 bridged radio link port 23 and 24 are the bullets. ( same on both switches btw ) the other switch is pretty much in default mode, as per HP's config example. I enable the switch ports for the bullets to allow them to link up the lacp and it works fine for a moment then the arp flood from hell happens. Devices all over my network stop responding for long periods of time.random customers stop passing traffic. Nothing I do gets me past this point. A more in depth look at the network for this link for you. Border-Router - Extreme layer3 switch - Core router - HP2624 Switch - Packetshaper 4500ISP - Extreme layer3 switch - hp2524 (lacp) - Cisco + Bullet5's --- Cisco + Bullet5's - HP2524 (lacp) - Canopy CMM - Various AP's. I don't need the Cisco backhaul anylonger however it would be nice to maintain as backup. (Which BTW is linked up at 54mbps as well.) Also I can't seem to ping any devices in the LACP link after they connect. Anyone have any ideas why this is going on? and how to fix it? Thanks in advance Ryan Ghering Network Operations Manager Plains.Net WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] residential repeater site contract
All good points. I put a box complete with power and ethernet switch on the outside of HWSC so I can control everything. I also try to stay away from roof top mounts. I'd rather be on a grain silo, short tower., or even a barn than track on someone's shingles. -RickG On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 1:34 PM, D. Ryan Spottrsp...@cspott.com wrote: My repeater contact is simple. If un-served-behind-the-big-rock-customer (USBTBR) wants service, they need to talk to their neighbor about it. If they establish some sort dialog, then the house-with-service-customer (HWSC) calls me to tell me it is OK. I find that this makes it a community/neighbor issue and really cuts down on you have been on my roof for a year with 3 customers, I want $5K a month rent now sorts of calls). I give a $5 per month discount to the HWSC for the first USBTBRr they repeat to. After the second USBTBR is using the repeater, the house-with-service customer is no longer billed. We usually don't even tell them we stopped billing them. They call us after a month or 4 and ask us why there have been no debits. Then we tell them. :) Because there is: a financial incentive (free or reduced cost service and See's Chocolate delivered by my daughter during the holidays), a broadband incentive (I usually put these people on my 5.8Ghz backbone), and a good neighbor incentive (some USBTBR have mowed the house-with-service-customer's lawns, baked pies etc) We often get house-with-service-customers giving us access to their backup generators, rebooting our equipment for us etc. Some things I have learned: 1. NEVER tell the USBTBR that the house-with-service-customer is getting free or reduced cost service. 2. If you PoE is inside the HWSC home, install some sort of female-female coupler in a weather resistant box at ground level so you can come onto the property for reboots without entering the house or climbing on the roof. 3. Never tell the USBTBR that this reboot device exists, but let the HWSC know it is there and let them tell the others if they wish. This reduces all of the neighbors coming across the lawn to reboot what they think is a bad repeater. The HWSC will generally let one or 2 trusted neighbors know the reboot thing is there. 4. Keep the roof traffic down to a minimum. Asphalt shingles begin to wear out after a while causing concern with residential owners. 5. Keep the truck traffic down to daylight hours and tell the HWSC that you won't even knock on their door and disturb them if you are just coming for a reboot or quick service call. Of course, a few of my HWSC DO want me to tell them I am there, and I do. 6. Establish with your USBTBRs FIRST OFF that they are behind a repeater that is there due to the good graces of the HWSC. Therefore, if service drops in the middle of the nigh, you are not going to wake someone up to do a reboot, nor are you going to risk getting shot running to that person's house to reboot the repeater. ryan Josh Luthman wrote: Thank you for sharing, Rick! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 9:22 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Attached...RickG On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 5:39 PM, sa...@jeffcosoho.com sa...@jeffcosoho.comwrote: Anyone have a contract they could share for this? Thanx Jim WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] residential repeater site contract
You're welcome! Use at your own risk. This was originally from a lawyer approved tower agreement and edited to provide for a simple contract for residential repeaters. They need simple! All that fine print overwhelms them! -RickG On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 5:00 PM, sa...@jeffcosoho.comsa...@jeffcosoho.com wrote: Thanx Rick Jim RickG wrote: Attached...RickG On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 5:39 PM, sa...@jeffcosoho.com sa...@jeffcosoho.comwrote: Anyone have a contract they could share for this? Thanx Jim WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
