Re: [WISPA] WE HAVE NOFA

2009-07-02 Thread Tom DeReggi
We've been talking about on Member's list.

The worst thing I saw about it was 3G cellular service appears to 
disqualify an area from being eligible for funding, based on definition of 
underserved.

An area is eligible for underserved if it does not have a provider offering 
over 3mbps down stream. However, without conditions for upload, or mandating 
average, or considering wired only, 3G kills us because 3G is spec'd at 3.1 
peak download. WISPA lobbied for 2mb upload and speeds based on average. We 
didn't get that. :-(

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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Re: [WISPA] Could Radio Waves Replace Fiber?

2009-07-02 Thread Chuck Bartosch
There is no advantage for wisps in what was written in the article. In  
general we're limited by Nyquist's and associated theorems which  
predict the maximum amount of data we can put into a given wavelength  
band. That hasn't changed. The speed of light in fiber is NOT why  
fiber has an advantage over a WISP.

The only possible reason (slightly hinted at by the statement that  
pulsar light travels farther than expected) that I could see this  
being of interest for a WISP is if radio waves generated thusly don't  
follow normal 1/r^2 propagation patterns like a point source does.  
Also, light *does* have (if I remember correctly) a near-field fall- 
off pattern that doesn't fall off as 1/r^2. Unfortunately, it falls  
off faster in the near-field.

It's not really clear (and I didn't feel like following it up) what he  
really did. There's always the spooky action at a distance phenomena  
whereby it seems that you can send information faster than the speed  
of light by using paired spins (observing one automatically forces the  
opposite spin instantaneously on the second one regardless of how far  
away it is). But getting high data throughputs on something like that  
is probably centuries away ;-).

Also, I seem to recall that not 'faster' than the speed of light means  
speed of light in a vacuum. I think it's possible even in the mundane  
world to go faster than the speed of light if the light isn't in a  
vacuum. A few years ago photons were even essentially stopped for  
some period of time.

I don't actually remember the math for this at the moment (and again,  
I don't feel like looking it up), but I believe Einstein's equations  
do not say nothing can go faster than light. They say anything slower  
than the speed of light can never reach the speed of light in a vacuum  
while anything faster than the speed of light can never slow down to  
the speed of light in a vacuum.

Chuck

On Jun 30, 2009, at 8:20 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote:

 Really cool!

 Except, Singleton started to lose me when he gave hypothetical uses  
 for the
 technology. Why does radiowaves have to go the speed if light, for  
 it to pin
 point a tumor inches away, or why would a pencil beam be more  
 benefical for
 satelite cell phone technology. Somewhat clueless examples.  I will  
 say,
 millimeter wave technology is already being used for medical uses like
 pinpointing tumors, but it doesn't need to go the speed of light.

 Now If they were to use that speed of light pencil beam for my  
 Network
 Backbone... That would be cluefull  :-)


 As for... Can radiowaves replace fiber?

 Well, the problem is not just getting waves to travel the speed of  
 light.
 The problem is whether enough of the wave detail can be received, a  
 long
 enough distance, without errors and distortion, for it to be useful  
 and
 reliable. It can be challenging when the medium (air, rain, wood,  
 etc) in
 which the radiowave travels through is not a constant, compared to  
 fiber and
 wire technologies which are more consistent mediums for passing  
 electricity
 or light. It will be interesting to follow Singleton's work.


 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
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Re: [WISPA] Problem with an NS2 running the latest firmware

2009-07-02 Thread os10rules
UBNT - Are you listening?

On Jul 1, 2009, at 11:51 PM, RickG wrote:

 I also wish they would move faster on RMA's! Their return process is
 not very good and you cant reach them by phone. -RickG

 On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:31 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm not sure that would offer total immunity from the manufacturer. I
 know from rolling some of my own firmware for the NS that some
 projects start with some code from the manufacturer's SDK and build
 upon that.

 I'm a bit surprised UBNT doesn't move a little faster on resolving
 some of these bugs.

 Greg
 On Jul 1, 2009, at 1:16 PM, Charles Wyble wrote:

 OpenWRT. :)

 I refuse to run stock firmware on my wifi gear.

 Roll my own image.

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Re: [WISPA] OSPF on RouterOS Vritual AP

2009-07-02 Thread Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net
Ahh, are you distributing connected routes?  If not, then until 
something connects, won't do anything :)

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Scott Reed wrote:
 Nothing associated on the Virtual. 
 The propagation was back out via the wire interface.
 I would not think it should matter if anything is connected.  The 
 interface is active, it has an address.  That address range should be 
 propagated by OSPF.  I will be at the site tomorrow.  I will connect to 
 the VirtualAP and see if that matters.


 Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net wrote:
   
 Is something connected to the VAP?  Why would it send if its on the 
 physical unless the other end is connected to the physical ap vs the vap.

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 Scott Reed wrote:
   
 
 Yep, that is what I said in the original post.
 Put the IP on the VirtualAP and no route prorogation.
 Put it on the physical and it propagates.  So the question is, why does 
 the route not propagate from the VirtualAP?  And is that corrected in v3.x?
 I assumed the VirtualAP was just like any other interface, put maybe not. 
 I may try putting it in a bridge and addressing the bridge to see what 
 happens.

 Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs.net wrote:
   
 
   
 A virtual AP is another interface, so unless its bridged with something 
 else, it will have to have an IP to communicate!

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 Scott Reed wrote:
   
 
   
 
 I have tried to setup OSPF on a Virtual AP in 2.9.49.  I have not found 
 a way to get it to forward the route.  As soon as I put the address on 
 the physical interface, the route propagates.  Any one know if this can 
 be made to work?

 If I upgrade to 3.23 or higher will it work?

   
 
   
 
   
 
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[WISPA] Strix Systems

2009-07-02 Thread Jory Privett
Does anyone have any experience with the Strix Mesh system?  I recently 
acquired  a network that has some and need some assistance.

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Re: [WISPA] WE HAVE NOFA

2009-07-02 Thread RickG
Thats on the technical side. What about the accounting side? Does the
government want to control your company?
-RickG

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 2:52 AM, Tom DeReggiwirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote:
 We've been talking about on Member's list.

 The worst thing I saw about it was 3G cellular service appears to
 disqualify an area from being eligible for funding, based on definition of
 underserved.

 An area is eligible for underserved if it does not have a provider offering
 over 3mbps down stream. However, without conditions for upload, or mandating
 average, or considering wired only, 3G kills us because 3G is spec'd at 3.1
 peak download. WISPA lobbied for 2mb upload and speeds based on average. We
 didn't get that. :-(

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message -
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 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] WE HAVE NOFA


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Re: [WISPA] Problem with an NS2 running the latest firmware

2009-07-02 Thread os10rules
Mine ran great till one day
On Jul 2, 2009, at 10:51 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 I'm running 3.4 and mines been up since the install short of one  
 lock up
 (power related?)

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 On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:48 AM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:

 An update on this - they are aware of the problem with random
 recurring rebooting with version 3.4 but they are unable to duplicate
 it in the lab therefore they're having a hard time fixing what they
 can't see is broken. I detected a bit of a plea for sympathy (which I
 have) but at some point if it doesn't work I have to move on... to
 another firmware or a competitor's product.

 Greg

 On Jul 1, 2009, at 11:51 PM, RickG wrote:

 I also wish they would move faster on RMA's! Their return process is
 not very good and you cant reach them by phone. -RickG

 On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:31 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm not sure that would offer total immunity from the  
 manufacturer. I
 know from rolling some of my own firmware for the NS that some
 projects start with some code from the manufacturer's SDK and build
 upon that.

 I'm a bit surprised UBNT doesn't move a little faster on resolving
 some of these bugs.

 Greg
 On Jul 1, 2009, at 1:16 PM, Charles Wyble wrote:

 OpenWRT. :)

 I refuse to run stock firmware on my wifi gear.

 Roll my own image.

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Re: [WISPA] Problem with an NS2 running the latest firmware

2009-07-02 Thread Andy Trimmell
I've dealt with this guy directly and he had me RMA's within a day. I
had 10 replaced and shipped to me within a week. Hope this helps. I
could never reach him on the phone but he responds in emails pretty
quickly.

Michael Ford
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Main Line - (408)942-3085
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Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:51 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problem with an NS2 running the latest firmware

I also wish they would move faster on RMA's! Their return process is
not very good and you cant reach them by phone. -RickG

On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:31 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm not sure that would offer total immunity from the manufacturer. I
 know from rolling some of my own firmware for the NS that some
 projects start with some code from the manufacturer's SDK and build
 upon that.

 I'm a bit surprised UBNT doesn't move a little faster on resolving
 some of these bugs.

 Greg
 On Jul 1, 2009, at 1:16 PM, Charles Wyble wrote:

 OpenWRT. :)

 I refuse to run stock firmware on my wifi gear.

 Roll my own image.

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Re: [WISPA] Problem with an NS2 running the latest firmware

2009-07-02 Thread Tom Sharples
The place to make these points, is on their forum:

http://www.ubnt.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=12

altho you'll have to make the same point, repeatedly, to get their 
attention. Several of us have been bugging them to release the 3.4 SDK for 
weeks. But a few more requests certainly wouldn't hurt.

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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problem with an NS2 running the latest firmware


 UBNT - Are you listening?

 On Jul 1, 2009, at 11:51 PM, RickG wrote:

 I also wish they would move faster on RMA's! Their return process is
 not very good and you cant reach them by phone. -RickG

 On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:31 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm not sure that would offer total immunity from the manufacturer. I
 know from rolling some of my own firmware for the NS that some
 projects start with some code from the manufacturer's SDK and build
 upon that.

 I'm a bit surprised UBNT doesn't move a little faster on resolving
 some of these bugs.

 Greg
 On Jul 1, 2009, at 1:16 PM, Charles Wyble wrote:

 OpenWRT. :)

 I refuse to run stock firmware on my wifi gear.

 Roll my own image.

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[WISPA] Problems with godaddy.com

2009-07-02 Thread Gino Villarini
Anyone with trouble reaching godaddy ?
 

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Re: [WISPA] Problems with godaddy.com

2009-07-02 Thread can...@believewireless.net
Nope.


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Re: [WISPA] Problems with godaddy.com

2009-07-02 Thread Alan Long
Working for me..


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Subject: [WISPA] Problems with godaddy.com

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Re: [WISPA] Problems with godaddy.com

2009-07-02 Thread Josh Luthman
Homepage works for me

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Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Alan Long alan.l...@aerowire.net wrote:

 Working for me..

 
 Aerowire
 Alan Long
 Director of Network Operations
 alan.l...@aerowire.net
 687 North Dean Road
 Auburn, AL 36830
 tel: 3342759998
 mobile: 336092
 
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Re: [WISPA] Problems with godaddy.com

2009-07-02 Thread Jack Unger
I have had intermittent problems sending email through them for the last 
4 months. The last month or so, the problem appeared to be 90% corrected 
but once in a while they still refuse to accept outgoing email.

Gino Villarini wrote:
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Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

2009-07-02 Thread Bob Elliott - RCS
I can vouch for MailFoundry as well. 

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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Christopher Hair
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 3:59 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

Check out Mailfoundry also...

http://www.mailfoundry.com/



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We've been using Barracuda boxes. Pretty happy with them. 

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Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 3:16 PM
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Have you looked into Postini?

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 We're switching to this over this weekend.

 http://www.redcondor.com/products/appliances.htm





 rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote:
  One of the things I've done in the spam war is to use something
called
 ASSP,
  which is just Anti Spam SMTP Proxy.
 
  It does a passable job of prevening inbound spam, and it prevents
anyone
 not
  on my network from sending mail out through my server, via firewall
rules
  put on the server.
 
  You can use a similar setup to have your customer's emails filtered
 outbound
  through something like this.It can also be placed on alternate
ports
 and
  using firewall rules, prevent any cust omer from sending mail
directly
 out.
 
  I haven't needed to do that, at least not yet.
 
  ASSP, when run on the mail server machine itself, can also act as an
  authentication and filtering of outbound emails.
 
 
 
 
  
  insert witty tagline here
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com
  To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 8:33 AM
  Subject: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff
 
 
 
  Hi All,
 
  What are you guys doing for email these days?  I LOVE my setup for
it's
  reliability, ease of use etc.
 
  Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though.  We
don't
  catch
  things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed.
This
  has
  now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years.
 
  My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other
than to
  limit cc's to 25 per message.  We did that once before and my phone
rang
  off
  the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends.
 
  The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get
(up
 to
  40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the
reply
  address.  So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's
not
  even
  mine (faked info).  sigh
 
  We use Courier MTA.
 
  My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per
day
  per
  user.  And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of
  messages
  received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of
all
  those
  sending.  Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no
response
 from
  the server admins.
 
  Suggestions?
 
  laters,
  marlon
 
 
 
 



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Re: [WISPA] OT, pesky email stuff

2009-07-02 Thread Matt
With Exim you can ratelimit.  Used to have the same problem tell I did this.

http://www.exim.org/exim-html-current/doc/html/spec_html/ch40.html#SECTratelimiting

# This limits each IP to 1000 recipients in 12 hour period
warn ratelimit = 1000 / 12h / per_rcpt / strict
delay = 20s
log_message = Sender $sender_address rate $sender_rate /
$sender_rate_period excedes limit delayed 20 seconds
You can also do this with Mikrotik in limited way.  It only counts TCP
connections.

http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/How_to_autodetect_infected_or_spammer_users_and_temporary_block_the_SMTP_output

Matt

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Marlon K. Schafer 
o...@odessaoffice.comwrote:

 Hi All,

 What are you guys doing for email these days?  I LOVE my setup for it's
 reliability, ease of use etc.

 Hacked customer accounts and virus's are killing me though.  We don't catch
 things until 100,000s of messages go out and we get black listed.  This has
 now happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years.

 My server admins aren't coming up with a solution to this other than to
 limit cc's to 25 per message.  We did that once before and my phone rang
 off
 the hook because people can't send jokes to their friends.

 The other thing that makes it hard is that the log files that I get (up to
 40 megs per day!) don't list the authenticated sender, only the reply
 address.  So I see tens of thousands of messages from a user that's not
 even
 mine (faked info).  sigh

 We use Courier MTA.

 My thought is to set the server to allow a max of 1000 messages per day per
 user.  And to somehow make the log file ONLY send me the number of messages
 received per a user, and the number sent, user name and ip addy of all
 those
 sending.  Twice now I've asked about that idea and gotten no response from
 the server admins.

 Suggestions?

 laters,
 marlon





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Re: [WISPA] WE HAVE NOFA

2009-07-02 Thread Tom DeReggi
I dont think so, no.
All in all, I think there requirements are fair. They also deter some 
companies from applying, that we'd rather not have apply. (Aka RBOC)

Even in the NetNeutrality and Interconnection requirements, they leave it up 
to the applicant to set most of the rules, and how far they want to comply, 
and get higher score for more open network.  Same thing for accounting, they 
need to have some method to measure that you are spending the money as you 
represent. Just as much control as any bank or investor would want, except 
you dont have to pay it back :-)

My feeling is, if someone doesn't need the money, they shouldn't get 
involved, because strings are a pain.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WE HAVE NOFA


 Thats on the technical side. What about the accounting side? Does the
 government want to control your company?
 -RickG

 On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 2:52 AM, Tom DeReggiwirelessn...@rapiddsl.net 
 wrote:
 We've been talking about on Member's list.

 The worst thing I saw about it was 3G cellular service appears to
 disqualify an area from being eligible for funding, based on definition 
 of
 underserved.

 An area is eligible for underserved if it does not have a provider 
 offering
 over 3mbps down stream. However, without conditions for upload, or 
 mandating
 average, or considering wired only, 3G kills us because 3G is spec'd at 
 3.1
 peak download. WISPA lobbied for 2mb upload and speeds based on average. 
 We
 didn't get that. :-(

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


 - Original Message -
 From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 11:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] WE HAVE NOFA


 With more strings than an orchestra!
 -RickG

 On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Charles Wyblechar...@thewybles.com
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 http://is.gd/1ktef



 
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Re: [WISPA] Could Radio Waves Replace Fiber?

2009-07-02 Thread Tom DeReggi
Now, that was an interesting reply :-)

 general we're limited by Nyquist's and associated theorems which
 predict the maximum amount of data we can put into a given wavelength
 band. That hasn't changed

I agree we might not be able to increase the amount of data in the 
wavelength, however we can't forget the concept of  time space.
If a wave goes faster than the speed of light, we first have to understand 
why amd what method made that possible, to understand how we can exploit it.

For example, lets say it was only theoreticly possible to send 100 units of 
whatever in a given time with standard process. And lets say this new 
process beating the speed of light now allowed 100 units to be sent 4 times 
faster to its destination. Even if more data could not be theoretically fit 
into the send (wave), it might be possible to replicate the task 4 times, 
via the new process, in the same time space as the old process.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Chuck Bartosch ch...@clarityconnect.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Could Radio Waves Replace Fiber?


 There is no advantage for wisps in what was written in the article. In
 general we're limited by Nyquist's and associated theorems which
 predict the maximum amount of data we can put into a given wavelength
 band. That hasn't changed. The speed of light in fiber is NOT why
 fiber has an advantage over a WISP.

 The only possible reason (slightly hinted at by the statement that
 pulsar light travels farther than expected) that I could see this
 being of interest for a WISP is if radio waves generated thusly don't
 follow normal 1/r^2 propagation patterns like a point source does.
 Also, light *does* have (if I remember correctly) a near-field fall-
 off pattern that doesn't fall off as 1/r^2. Unfortunately, it falls
 off faster in the near-field.

 It's not really clear (and I didn't feel like following it up) what he
 really did. There's always the spooky action at a distance phenomena
 whereby it seems that you can send information faster than the speed
 of light by using paired spins (observing one automatically forces the
 opposite spin instantaneously on the second one regardless of how far
 away it is). But getting high data throughputs on something like that
 is probably centuries away ;-).

 Also, I seem to recall that not 'faster' than the speed of light means
 speed of light in a vacuum. I think it's possible even in the mundane
 world to go faster than the speed of light if the light isn't in a
 vacuum. A few years ago photons were even essentially stopped for
 some period of time.

 I don't actually remember the math for this at the moment (and again,
 I don't feel like looking it up), but I believe Einstein's equations
 do not say nothing can go faster than light. They say anything slower
 than the speed of light can never reach the speed of light in a vacuum
 while anything faster than the speed of light can never slow down to
 the speed of light in a vacuum.

 Chuck

 On Jun 30, 2009, at 8:20 PM, Tom DeReggi wrote:

 Really cool!

 Except, Singleton started to lose me when he gave hypothetical uses
 for the
 technology. Why does radiowaves have to go the speed if light, for
 it to pin
 point a tumor inches away, or why would a pencil beam be more
 benefical for
 satelite cell phone technology. Somewhat clueless examples.  I will
 say,
 millimeter wave technology is already being used for medical uses like
 pinpointing tumors, but it doesn't need to go the speed of light.

 Now If they were to use that speed of light pencil beam for my
 Network
 Backbone... That would be cluefull  :-)


 As for... Can radiowaves replace fiber?

 Well, the problem is not just getting waves to travel the speed of
 light.
 The problem is whether enough of the wave detail can be received, a
 long
 enough distance, without errors and distortion, for it to be useful
 and
 reliable. It can be challenging when the medium (air, rain, wood,
 etc) in
 which the radiowave travels through is not a constant, compared to
 fiber and
 wire technologies which are more consistent mediums for passing
 electricity
 or light. It will be interesting to follow Singleton's work.


 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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Re: [WISPA] Problem with an NS2 running the latest firmware

2009-07-02 Thread os10rules
Tom,

I  actually went more direct than that. I went right to the person  
I'm dealing with concerning my ticket. Here's what I said:

Edmundas,

I'm guessing you guys already know this but at the risk of being  
annoying I'll throw it out there. You guys have a great product line  
which has caught the eye of the WISP community and beyond. I recommend  
your gear to all I know and have been responsible for the purchase of  
a fair number of units. But your weakness is the firmware. I'm sure  
you're feeling the pinch of the economic times as we all are but  
firmware development is not a place where you can skimp. If enough  
people get a bad impression of your product the tide could turn  
against you no matter how outstanding your product is in other areas.

I'm not saying this to try and pressure you about my specific case. I  
say this because I really like your innovative product line and I hope  
you prosper and grow and continue to offer cool products. I have seen  
other companies with unique exciting products fall by the wayside  
because of a bad decision.

Greg

On Jul 2, 2009, at 1:31 PM, Tom Sharples wrote:

 The place to make these points, is on their forum:

 http://www.ubnt.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=12

 altho you'll have to make the same point, repeatedly, to get their
 attention. Several of us have been bugging them to release the 3.4  
 SDK for
 weeks. But a few more requests certainly wouldn't hurt.

 Tom S.

 - Original Message -
 From: os10ru...@gmail.com
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 5:26 AM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Problem with an NS2 running the latest firmware


 UBNT - Are you listening?

 On Jul 1, 2009, at 11:51 PM, RickG wrote:

 I also wish they would move faster on RMA's! Their return process is
 not very good and you cant reach them by phone. -RickG

 On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:31 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm not sure that would offer total immunity from the  
 manufacturer. I
 know from rolling some of my own firmware for the NS that some
 projects start with some code from the manufacturer's SDK and build
 upon that.

 I'm a bit surprised UBNT doesn't move a little faster on resolving
 some of these bugs.

 Greg
 On Jul 1, 2009, at 1:16 PM, Charles Wyble wrote:

 OpenWRT. :)

 I refuse to run stock firmware on my wifi gear.

 Roll my own image.

 http://luci.freifunk-halle.net/ is very cool.



 
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