[WISPA] What frequencies not to use

2009-07-05 Thread richard sterne
Hello all,
I am looking at shooting a 5.x Ghz link through a busy port. What
frequencies should I avoid?

Thanks

Richard



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Re: [WISPA] What frequencies not to use

2009-07-05 Thread lakeland
If you can you should use the 5.4 band.  Second option is 5.3 and then 5.8 GHz. 
 You don't say the distance so its hard to say to use other options

In urban areas we use large antennas and lower the power to narrow the 
beamwidth.

In addition I would use horizontal as there are many consumer products on 5.8 
that use vertical

Good luck

Bob
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Subject: [WISPA] What frequencies not to use


Hello all,
I am looking at shooting a 5.x Ghz link through a busy port. What
frequencies should I avoid?

Thanks

Richard



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Re: [WISPA] What frequencies not to use

2009-07-05 Thread richard sterne
The distance is 3.5 Km or 2.2 Miles

Richard

2009/7/5 lakel...@gbcx.net

 If you can you should use the 5.4 band.  Second option is 5.3 and then 5.8
 GHz.  You don't say the distance so its hard to say to use other options

 In urban areas we use large antennas and lower the power to narrow the
 beamwidth.

 In addition I would use horizontal as there are many consumer products on
 5.8 that use vertical

 Good luck

 Bob
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: richard sterne wireless.r...@gmail.com

 Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 19:59:02
 To: wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] What frequencies not to use


 Hello all,
 I am looking at shooting a 5.x Ghz link through a busy port. What
 frequencies should I avoid?

 Thanks

 Richard



 
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Re: [WISPA] What frequencies not to use

2009-07-05 Thread Jack Unger
Use a frequency that your spectrum analyzer indicates is NOT in use.

richard sterne wrote:
 Hello all,
 I am looking at shooting a 5.x Ghz link through a busy port. What
 frequencies should I avoid?

 Thanks

 Richard


 
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Re: [WISPA] 900 MHhz accross water

2009-07-05 Thread jp
Yep, I've seen that sort of thing.

Here's 5.8 Alvarion VL over about 2-3 miles of water. One end is 250ASL 
on a tower 1/4 from the ocean, the other end is a couple hundred feet 
from the ocean and probably 50' ASL. The red curve is the SNR. The grey 
line is the transmit power (ATPC enabled).

http://www.midcoast.com/~jp/water58.png

Here's 2.4 Alvarion BA-II over water. One end is 20' ASL and 100' from 
the water, the other is 700' from the water and 100' ASL. Link is about 
4 miles.

http://www.midcoast.com/~jp/water24.png

On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 12:03:31PM -0400, Jeremy Parr wrote:
 2009/7/4 jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com:
  900 works better over water than 2.4 or 5.8. 5.8 is pretty unusable if
  the antenna is near the water under certain conditions. We usually have
  to keep the antennas back off the shore to make it work. We see lots of
  multipath destructive interference fluctuate with the tides on the
  ocean. Worst case is about a 40db variation. 10-20 db is common with
  2.4. 900 is the least affected.
 
  You should use SNMP to graph signal of links over water to evaluate how
  it is performing in your test.
 
 This is a 5.8ghz Alvarion VL across four miles of water. You can
 clearly see where the tide changes.


 
 
 
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Re: [WISPA] What frequencies not to use

2009-07-05 Thread Tom Sharples
Then, use some of that wifi spray to prevent future use of the frequency.

Tom S.

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 Use a frequency that your spectrum analyzer indicates is NOT in use.

 richard sterne wrote:
 Hello all,
 I am looking at shooting a 5.x Ghz link through a busy port. What
 frequencies should I avoid?

 Thanks

 Richard


 
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[WISPA] Australian regulatory concerns...

2009-07-05 Thread Bradley D. Thornton
have a tentative offer to to some buildout in Victoria Australia, 
pending the completion of a local project here.

But I don't know where to look for their laws regarding unlicensed 
spectrum, if there is any.

Does anyone have any pointers/links for me to research?

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Re: [WISPA] Australian regulatory concerns...

2009-07-05 Thread Graham Goldfinch
Title: Charles Galeano - Government Endorsed Supplier




G'day Bradley,
  I can help here.
Australian regs are similar to the USA as follows,
2.4Ghz 11 channels 36dB EIRP max
5.8Ghz 4 channels 36dB EIRP max, higher power for specific locations
away from the high density populations.
5.470Ghz to 5.650Ghz many channels, 30dB EIRP max with DFS and TPC
enabled, some exemptions for lower power
900Mhz is just 916 to 928Mhz allowed with 30dB max

We also have 60Ghz exempt within a certain channel size/range plus
70/80Ghz site licensed at little money.

www.acma.gov.au site has more detail, just tricky to find.

Offlist if you need more detail from me.

regards
Graham

Bradley D. Thornton wrote:

  have a tentative offer to to some buildout in Victoria Australia, 
pending the completion of a local project here.

But I don't know where to look for their laws regarding unlicensed 
spectrum, if there is any.

Does anyone have any pointers/links for me to research?

  


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Re: [WISPA] What frequencies not to use

2009-07-05 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
lol  That stuff is GREAT!!!

Seriously, I love 5.3 gig for short ptp links.

marlon

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 Then, use some of that wifi spray to prevent future use of the frequency.

 Tom S.

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 From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com
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 Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 1:55 PM
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] What frequencies not to use


 Use a frequency that your spectrum analyzer indicates is NOT in use.

 richard sterne wrote:
 Hello all,
 I am looking at shooting a 5.x Ghz link through a busy port. What
 frequencies should I avoid?

 Thanks

 Richard


 
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