Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Tower Vandalism
What was the 2000 camera? On 9/5/09, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: The fixed cameras were about $30/ea. The composite to IP box was about $50. The alarm system was about $200 when we put it in 5 years ago. Yeah, the PTZ was about $2000 for a good one, great zoom, enclosure w/ fan and heat. But the news uses it as a weathercam, so we got them to foot the bill - and we provide the IP. Jayson On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Wow too rich for my blood. That has to cost a few grand right there! On 9/4/09, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: Absolutely. PTZ on the top, 2 fixed on the bottom pointing at parking area/fence gate. Motion sensor outdoors inside the fence area. Contact sensor on the door. Always a good idea. On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Do you do those things? On 9/4/09, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com wrote: And the site owners didn't install alarms and video surveillance equipment because... Tom S. - Original Message - From: jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Tower Vandalism http://www.elfpressoffice.org/ Someone's gotta be pretty shallow in the gene pool (or a complete crack head) to destroy a big tower with your person AT THE BASE OF THE TOWER! Where else (on the ground) would be a worse place to be with a tower coming down? I'd want to be out of the fall radius. On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 01:44:25PM -0700, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: fyi watch those towers! And don't forget to take the keys from any equipment left on site. marlon - Original Message - From: scottw...@verizon.net To: towert...@contesting.com Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 12:00 PM Subject: [TowerTalk] Tower Vandalism This link details recent vandalism against commercial antenna towers in Washington State http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,546561,00.html 73, Scott W3TX E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) Database version: 6.13200 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ ___ ___ TowerTalk mailing list towert...@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Nanostation dish
Just got a couple of these and did some preliminary testing. What kind of DB boost are you seeing with these? It did help, but I was hoping for more of a boost with the Nanostation2, didn't try the loco (because of the ack limit to 3 miles). I would have to say it was worth about 7-8 db at 2.4. I was hoping for 12-13 db, so that I could ditch my Powerstations and Grids. Regards Michael Baird Try this http://www.securalign.com , the Max Dish, @$42.00 each, in a 2 pack. We use them with the 5.x Nano for the mid range applications, 3-6miles, after that we move to other options. Just put the bottom bracket of the Nano against the mounting band of the Max dish. Very large sweet spot for horizontal and vertical. Works with the 2.4 too. Chuck Profito 209-988-7388 CV-ACCESS, INC cprof...@cv-access.com Providing High Speed Broadband to Rural Central California -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Richardson Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 10:19 PM To: WISPA General List; Motorola Canopy User Group Subject: [WISPA] Nanostation dish Have you seen these? http://rfantennadesign.com/page35.html 6-8dB sure isn't much. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
The head to head competition! http://www.kkn.net/~n6tv/Text_vs_Morse_Leno_2005_05_13.wmv -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 10:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill Apparently someone doesn't use T9 word mode or have a smart phone. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 3:39 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill Well, keying in letters on the dtmf keypad of a phone means it's 1-4 presses per digit. Morse code is 1-4 presses per letter or 5 for numbers. Input encoding: Morse code is 1-2 press options (depending on the input device), a phone is 10-12 keys to use. So I'd say they are comparable for text data efficiency, and morse wins hands for hand-eye coordination or simplicity. Thus if phones had morse code encoders and decoders built in, people could text easier with less distraction. You know kids would learn morse code in order to become superior texters. On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 03:23:35PM -0400, Robert West wrote: That brings me back to a thought I had a few months back. Text messaging. It's been proven that a person using Morse code to enter a text message will beat someone using normal text entry. But with that, isn't text messaging pretty much the same type of thing as sending in Morse? We went from Morse to voice and it was a big improvement but now it's retro and we're back to the text. So my thought was, coming up with a phone that would do semaphore and then after that caught on, go for smoke signals then later still, the cell phone could tell my kid to run down the street and give my message in person. At that point there would be no need for the cell phone and we could charge for the luxury of not having one. I also have too much time on my hands, or so the wife tells me. Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 12:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill I guess one might say that was the original concept. I suppose smoke signals would qualify as well. Or maybe a bottle with a note cast into the sea? LOL! On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 4:23 AM, Frankinetli...@gmail.com wrote: The telegraph was the Victorian Internet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victorian_Internet Frank -Original Message- From: Robert West Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:07 AM Nicola Tesla had the idea back in the late 1800's but it included the telegraph Strange but true. But he was from the future, after all. :) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:
Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question
But then everyone will call you god I know it was a typo, but couldn't resist. Cameron e...@wisp-router.com wrote: Correct. If the wavelength was different then it wouldn't be 900MHz. You can break physics. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 11:42:17 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question Lol, and the answer is because horizontal usually has less noise. Whcih has nothing to do with the size of the wave cycle. Unless someone knows something I dont - which is always possible. On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Paul Ricepaul.r...@boomerang-networks.com wrote: heh, the question was why folks doing 900 preferred horizontal -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 9:41 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Paul Ricepaul.r...@boomerang-networks.com wrote: Folks like horizontal for 900 MHz due to the size of the wave cycle approx 13 inches long I knew that but couldnt figure out why you specified horizontal. I guess you might have said Folks like 900 MHz due to the size of the wave cycle approx 13 inches long. Thanks! -RickG On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Paul Ricepaul.r...@boomerang-networks.com wrote: same size. The electromagnetic wave is the same, polarity refers to the orientation of the wave. up and down or side to side. 13 inches is the wavelength (length of a single cycle). -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 7:33 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question The wave size of vertical would be different? -RickG On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Paul Ricepaul.r...@boomerang-networks.com wrote: Folks like horizontal for 900 MHz due to the size of the wave cycle approx 13 inches long -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 11:02 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question But look at all the experience you are gaining :) On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Robert Westrobert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Why horizontal polarity? Cause I'm a total idiot when it comes to 900mhz and as my luck usually runs, if I go by the book nothing works until I do what I'm not supposed to do. But, also as my luck runs, the opposite of what I try first will work So it actually won't matter what I do including sitting the antennas 5 feet in front of each other, it will never work the first time out. :) Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tim Edwards Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 12:33 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question I'm with Chuck, much better performance with the Trango vs. Mikrotik in my experience. Why horizontal pol? Vertical cuts through the foliage much bettter, at least with the NorCal foliage we have here. tim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Tim Edwards, Chief Engineer t...@telescience.net TeleScience Networks http://telescience.net 11101 Hiway 1, #102415-663-8891 Point Reyes Station, CA 94956-1375 =-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Chuck Hogg wrote: I find that the Trango 900 can handle the noise and capacity much better than MikroTik/XR9. I have a few hundred on Trango and it works better imo than XR9's. Canopy's GPS synch is the only reason I would prefer their 900MHz option. Regards, Chuck Hogg Shelby Broadband 502-722-9292 ch...@shelbybb.com http://www.shelbybb.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Robert West Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 4:49 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] 900Mhz question I'm actually about to test something similar in a few days. We have a 2.5 mile link to put in with half a mile of it through trees with .25 miles of that running right over a creek. Doing it on the cheap, or trying to. Have 2 Mikrotik 411 boards on both sides running a transparent bridge using XR9 cards attached to a pac wireless grid antenna setup with horizontal polarity. The antennas are up and the boxes are configured, just have to go out tonight or tomorrow and run power to them and try to see what kind of throughput we can get, if any. Haven't tried it before but we'll see. Bob- -Original Message- From:
Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Tower Vandalism
So I'm curious what one would do if you saw someone there to "take down" your tower? Are you really going to drive there and confront someone that doesn't give a crap about doing illegal activities? Travis Microserv Jayson Baker wrote: The fixed cameras were about $30/ea. The composite to IP box was about $50. The alarm system was about $200 when we put it in 5 years ago. Yeah, the PTZ was about $2000 for a good one, great zoom, enclosure w/ fan and heat. But the news uses it as a weathercam, so we got them to foot the bill - and we provide the IP. Jayson On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Wow too rich for my blood. That has to cost a few grand right there! On 9/4/09, Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com wrote: Absolutely. PTZ on the top, 2 fixed on the bottom pointing at parking area/fence gate. Motion sensor outdoors inside the fence area. Contact sensor on the door. Always a good idea. On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Do you do those things? On 9/4/09, Tom Sharples tsharp...@qorvus.com wrote: And the site owners didn't install alarms and video surveillance equipment because... Tom S. - Original Message - From: "jp" j...@saucer.midcoast.com To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Tower Vandalism http://www.elfpressoffice.org/ Someone's gotta be pretty shallow in the gene pool (or a complete crack head) to destroy a big tower with your person AT THE BASE OF THE TOWER! Where else (on the ground) would be a worse place to be with a tower coming down? I'd want to be out of the fall radius. On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 01:44:25PM -0700, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: fyi watch those towers! And don't forget to take the keys from any equipment left on site. marlon - Original Message - From: scottw...@verizon.net To: towert...@contesting.com Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 12:00 PM Subject: [TowerTalk] Tower Vandalism This link details recent vandalism against commercial antenna towers in Washington State http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,546561,00.html 73, Scott W3TX E-mail message checked by Spyware Doctor (6.1.0.447) Database version: 6.13200 http://www.pctools.com/en/spyware-doctor-antivirus/ ___ ___ TowerTalk mailing list towert...@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Tower Vandalism
Depending on the circumstances, I might have to shoot them... The use of deadly force introduces the element of preventing a crime against the person or property or preventing someone from fleeing after committing specific crimes. The statutes distinguish some crimes being committed at night. The following list contains a brief statutory definition of the crimes taken from the TPC when deadly force may be used to prevent their imminent commission: · Arson-starting a fire or caus- ing an explosion with the intent to destroy or damage vegetation, fence, structure, open-space land, building, habitat or vehicle. Exceptions and defenses are enumerated in Section 28.02. · Burglary-entering a habitation or building not open to the public or remaining concealed in a habitation or building with the intent to commit or at- tempt to commit a felony or theft. Section 30.02 elaborates on the exceptions and quali- fication of burglary. A habita- tion is a structure or vehicle adapted for overnight accom- modations (Section 30.01). A building is any enclosed struc- ture intended for use or occu- pation as a habitation or for trade, manufacture, ornament or use. A felony is any offense so designated by law or pun- ishable by death or confine- ment in the penitentiary (Sec- tion 1.07[23]). · Robbery-knowingly, intention- ally or recklessly causing bodily injury or knowingly or inten- tionally threatening or placing another in fear of imminent bodily injury while committing a theft (Section 29.02). · Aggravated robbery-causing serious bodily injury or using or exhibiting a deadly weapon while committing a robbery. Special rules apply to robbery of a disabled person or some- one 65 years or older (Section 29.03). · Theft-appropriating unlawfully the property of another with the intent to deprive the owner of the property. The appropria- tion is unlawful when the owner has not consented or when the property is known to have been stolen. Section 31.03 contains several pages describ- ing and defining theft. Consent is defined in Section 1.07(11) as assent in fact, whether express or apparent. · Criminal mischief-knowingly or intentionally damaging or destroying, tampering with or marking, inscribing slogans, drawing or painting on tangible property of another (Section 28.03). The list of crimes when deadly force may by used to prevent the culprit from fleeing with the prop- erty immediately after the commis- sion is quite similar to the one just given. The only difference is that arson and criminal mischief are dropped. The third and final qualification for the use of deadly force is the property owner's reasonable belief that the land or personalty can not be protected by any other means. Or, the property owner reasonably believes that if deadly force is not used, the property owner or some- one else will be exposed to a substantial risk of death or serious injury. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 11:32 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Tower Vandalism WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Tower Vandalism
I don't know, you should never talk about a willingness to shoot someone. A good lawyer will find your E-mail on the Internet and use that against you. If you do shoot someone be sure you do it right so they die... Even the most hardened criminal does not look threatening to the Jury when he is sitting in a wheelchair paralyzed from the neck down. When the police arrive, say ONLY 3 things, and repeat them word for word, over and over. He was going to kill me... I defended myself Attorney Please This is advice from the Wild West, Near Ruby Ridge Idaho. We don't need no stinking 911! Scott Carullo wrote: Depending on the circumstances, I might have to shoot them... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill
I love the T9, wouldn't have it any other way. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 12:16 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill That t9 stuff sucks like hell IMO. On 9/4/09, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: Apparently someone doesn't use T9 word mode or have a smart phone. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: jp j...@saucer.midcoast.com Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 3:39 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill Well, keying in letters on the dtmf keypad of a phone means it's 1-4 presses per digit. Morse code is 1-4 presses per letter or 5 for numbers. Input encoding: Morse code is 1-2 press options (depending on the input device), a phone is 10-12 keys to use. So I'd say they are comparable for text data efficiency, and morse wins hands for hand-eye coordination or simplicity. Thus if phones had morse code encoders and decoders built in, people could text easier with less distraction. You know kids would learn morse code in order to become superior texters. On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 03:23:35PM -0400, Robert West wrote: That brings me back to a thought I had a few months back. Text messaging. It's been proven that a person using Morse code to enter a text message will beat someone using normal text entry. But with that, isn't text messaging pretty much the same type of thing as sending in Morse? We went from Morse to voice and it was a big improvement but now it's retro and we're back to the text. So my thought was, coming up with a phone that would do semaphore and then after that caught on, go for smoke signals then later still, the cell phone could tell my kid to run down the street and give my message in person. At that point there would be no need for the cell phone and we could charge for the luxury of not having one. I also have too much time on my hands, or so the wife tells me. Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 12:07 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Senate Bill I guess one might say that was the original concept. I suppose smoke signals would qualify as well. Or maybe a bottle with a note cast into the sea? LOL! On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 4:23 AM, Frankinetli...@gmail.com wrote: The telegraph was the Victorian Internet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victorian_Internet Frank -Original Message- From: Robert West Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 10:07 AM Nicola Tesla had the idea back in the late 1800's but it included the telegraph Strange but true. But he was from the future, after all. :) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ| Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Mainehttp://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join
Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Tower Vandalism
Don't forget I used force necessary to maintain the situation. On 9/5/09, Gary Garrett ggarr...@nidaho.net wrote: I don't know, you should never talk about a willingness to shoot someone. A good lawyer will find your E-mail on the Internet and use that against you. If you do shoot someone be sure you do it right so they die... Even the most hardened criminal does not look threatening to the Jury when he is sitting in a wheelchair paralyzed from the neck down. When the police arrive, say ONLY 3 things, and repeat them word for word, over and over. He was going to kill me... I defended myself Attorney Please This is advice from the Wild West, Near Ruby Ridge Idaho. We don't need no stinking 911! Scott Carullo wrote: Depending on the circumstances, I might have to shoot them... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Tower Vandalism
When they ask why you shot the man 27 times the proper answer is sir, I must have ran out of bullets. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gary Garrett Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 12:47 PM To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Tower Vandalism I don't know, you should never talk about a willingness to shoot someone. A good lawyer will find your E-mail on the Internet and use that against you. If you do shoot someone be sure you do it right so they die... Even the most hardened criminal does not look threatening to the Jury when he is sitting in a wheelchair paralyzed from the neck down. When the police arrive, say ONLY 3 things, and repeat them word for word, over and over. He was going to kill me... I defended myself Attorney Please This is advice from the Wild West, Near Ruby Ridge Idaho. We don't need no stinking 911! Scott Carullo wrote: Depending on the circumstances, I might have to shoot them... WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: [TowerTalk] Tower Vandalism
Your Lawyer will say that when the time comes. If you say anything at all at the scene, the only installer you will ever have to deal with will be some creep named Bubba. Don't forget I used force necessary to maintain the situation. When the police arrive, say ONLY 3 things, and repeat them word for word, over and over. He was going to kill me... I defended myself Attorney Please WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Ever see Ethernet cables fail so that ...
All, I have a sub that has had Several failures. The last one is understandable, in that there was a direct lightning strike in their yard winthin 75' of CPE (NS5). Its Ethernet port was bad, yet the radio was fine?? The one before that, the power company worked on the power and said their oops may have caused problems. It did even though my equipment was plugged into a UPS. They now have a brand new quality surge protector for the equipment. Anyway, the customer calls and says no internet, and that the POE box light is not on. Fine, I instruct customer to remove compatible power from the router we installed and plug into the injector. She does, and I see pings from the AP. I go on site to replace power supply later that day. I find No ethernet connectivity thru the injector to the NS5. I also find the workstation plugged into router has no ethernet connectivity to the router. I plug my laptop into router and verify that all link lites seem to work on all ports, yet the usb-ethernet adapter I installed 2 weeks ago is not seen by the workstation. yes I tried several usb ports. A couple weeks ago, I verified that our outdoor cable was good. Now as I look for answers, the only suspect is the ethernet cable. It has been in service 4-5 years, and I noticed a few staples had pulled out and left a 3 foot loop between the carport and house dangling. My theory is that this cable has an intermittent short that has fried the power supply, the ethernet port on the NS5, and the workstation ethernet port plugged into the router?? QUESTION: Have you guys seen stuff like this happen? Because this is a Bus. sub I will head out there shortly to 'finish up'. I will rip out and replace our cable, the NS5 , and probably the usb-ethernet port we put in. Sure would be nice to know I've hit the right things. your feedback is greatly appreciated! Thanks, Marshall Rabbit Meadows Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Broadband Stimulus Could Save Lives and Cash
I used the school bus argument as an extreme one but thanks for underscoring my point :) On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Chuck Bartoschch...@clarityconnect.com wrote: On Sep 4, 2009, at 10:46 PM, RickG wrote: Reminds me of when I worked at McDonald Douglas. The engineers there told me they could save more lives by putting in more safety equipment into the jets. The problem was airline travel would cost 1000 times more. Ever wonder why there are no seat belts on school buses? Money. Though it is a true statement, it's misleading for school busses. Almost no one dies in a school bus (compared to auto accidents) in the first place. And seat belts wouldn't have much of any effect on the already exceedingly low death rates in a school bus. THAT'S why we don't spend money on it- it doesn't really make any difference. Yes, I know one could say ah, but if you saved 1 life a year, you're making an economic argument that it isn't worth $500,000,000 to retrofit all busses to have seat belts. It's true, but kind of misleading because, if it would make much of a difference, we'd do it. Meanwhile, many many parents drive their kids to school despite the fact that the death rate due to driving kids to school is like 100 times higher. In both cases though, the rates are so low, it isn't really any issue. The point is, we can save more lives in many ways but at what cost? nod Chuck -RickG On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Listsli...@stlbroadband.com wrote: http://www.stltoday.com/pr/business/PR09030902052935 Victoria WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Chuck Bartosch Clarity Connect, Inc. 200 Pleasant Grove Road Ithaca, NY 14850 (607) 257-8268 When the stars threw down their spears, and water'd heaven with their tears, Did He smile, His work to see? Did He who made the Lamb make thee? From William Blake's Tiger!, Tiger! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ever see Ethernet cables fail so that ...
I have had the ethernet cable go bad just like that twice over the past year. Both times was after a nearby lightning strike. The strange things was that it passed with my tester. OK, my tester is only a $100, not one of the fancy expensive units. Still, after the cable was replaced, all was/is well. -RickG On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 3:46 PM, rabbtux rabbtuxrabb...@gmail.com wrote: All, I have a sub that has had Several failures. The last one is understandable, in that there was a direct lightning strike in their yard winthin 75' of CPE (NS5). Its Ethernet port was bad, yet the radio was fine?? The one before that, the power company worked on the power and said their oops may have caused problems. It did even though my equipment was plugged into a UPS. They now have a brand new quality surge protector for the equipment. Anyway, the customer calls and says no internet, and that the POE box light is not on. Fine, I instruct customer to remove compatible power from the router we installed and plug into the injector. She does, and I see pings from the AP. I go on site to replace power supply later that day. I find No ethernet connectivity thru the injector to the NS5. I also find the workstation plugged into router has no ethernet connectivity to the router. I plug my laptop into router and verify that all link lites seem to work on all ports, yet the usb-ethernet adapter I installed 2 weeks ago is not seen by the workstation. yes I tried several usb ports. A couple weeks ago, I verified that our outdoor cable was good. Now as I look for answers, the only suspect is the ethernet cable. It has been in service 4-5 years, and I noticed a few staples had pulled out and left a 3 foot loop between the carport and house dangling. My theory is that this cable has an intermittent short that has fried the power supply, the ethernet port on the NS5, and the workstation ethernet port plugged into the router?? QUESTION: Have you guys seen stuff like this happen? Because this is a Bus. sub I will head out there shortly to 'finish up'. I will rip out and replace our cable, the NS5 , and probably the usb-ethernet port we put in. Sure would be nice to know I've hit the right things. your feedback is greatly appreciated! Thanks, Marshall Rabbit Meadows Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti CPEs - SuperAG
Does it have to be StarOS on both ends? Greg On Sep 3, 2009, at 5:05 PM, reader wrote: I, too, run Star-OS, and the bullet 2's are approximately 50% of the throughput of a staros based cpe when in 11b mode. Star-OS has other helpful things like managed mode, and the signal level settings. I use bullet 2's only when I absolutely have to, due to this. Star-OS ap to cpe will endure high levels of interference and multipath, without packet loss, but not a bullet. On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 20:32:28 -0400, RickG wrote Mark, It appears that is correct. I also run StarOS AP's. Interesting though, I have not seen any performance differences between the units with ff comp and those that dont support it. I wonder if its just something you cant view? -RickG On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Mark Nashmarkl...@uwol.net wrote: According to Ubiquiti, these DO support ff comp: Nanostation 5 Nanostation Loco 5 Bullet 2 HP Picostation 2 HP All powerstations All others do not, including: Nanostation 2 Nanostation Loco 2 Bullet 2 (non-HP...WTF???) Bullet5 Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti CPEs - SuperAG I know that with DDWRT, you have to pay for the license and you get a key. Not sure about OpenWRT. I don't recall any current UBNT I have used that did not support ff and comp. I have used most, except for the newest that just came out. Ralph -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 12:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti CPEs - SuperAG It appears that only SOME of the Ubiquiti products enable compression fast frames, some don't. Is this accurate? Any success stories using the WRT firmware on these products? It seems that the hardware is capable, just hasn't been enabled in the firmware unless you purchase the higher end, more expensive products. This seems to be the ONLY thing keeping me from using these products in a big way as opposed to what I use now, StarOS. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ - --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ - --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Open WebMail Project (http://openwebmail.org) WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ever see Ethernet cables fail so that ...
Yes, that is possible. Could also be the connectors. IDC (Insulation Displacement Connects) can work loose and/or corrode, especially when subjected to unnatural stress such as lightning. rabbtux rabbtux wrote: All, I have a sub that has had Several failures. The last one is understandable, in that there was a direct lightning strike in their yard winthin 75' of CPE (NS5). Its Ethernet port was bad, yet the radio was fine?? The one before that, the power company worked on the power and said their oops may have caused problems. It did even though my equipment was plugged into a UPS. They now have a brand new quality surge protector for the equipment. Anyway, the customer calls and says no internet, and that the POE box light is not on. Fine, I instruct customer to remove compatible power from the router we installed and plug into the injector. She does, and I see pings from the AP. I go on site to replace power supply later that day. I find No ethernet connectivity thru the injector to the NS5. I also find the workstation plugged into router has no ethernet connectivity to the router. I plug my laptop into router and verify that all link lites seem to work on all ports, yet the usb-ethernet adapter I installed 2 weeks ago is not seen by the workstation. yes I tried several usb ports. A couple weeks ago, I verified that our outdoor cable was good. Now as I look for answers, the only suspect is the ethernet cable. It has been in service 4-5 years, and I noticed a few staples had pulled out and left a 3 foot loop between the carport and house dangling. My theory is that this cable has an intermittent short that has fried the power supply, the ethernet port on the NS5, and the workstation ethernet port plugged into the router?? QUESTION: Have you guys seen stuff like this happen? Because this is a Bus. sub I will head out there shortly to 'finish up'. I will rip out and replace our cable, the NS5 , and probably the usb-ethernet port we put in. Sure would be nice to know I've hit the right things. your feedback is greatly appreciated! Thanks, Marshall Rabbit Meadows Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.78/2347 - Release Date: 09/05/09 05:51:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ever see Ethernet cables fail so that ...
Believe me, I tried replacing the end connectors before rerunning the cables. On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Scott Reedscottr...@onlyinternet.net wrote: Yes, that is possible. Could also be the connectors. IDC (Insulation Displacement Connects) can work loose and/or corrode, especially when subjected to unnatural stress such as lightning. rabbtux rabbtux wrote: All, I have a sub that has had Several failures. The last one is understandable, in that there was a direct lightning strike in their yard winthin 75' of CPE (NS5). Its Ethernet port was bad, yet the radio was fine?? The one before that, the power company worked on the power and said their oops may have caused problems. It did even though my equipment was plugged into a UPS. They now have a brand new quality surge protector for the equipment. Anyway, the customer calls and says no internet, and that the POE box light is not on. Fine, I instruct customer to remove compatible power from the router we installed and plug into the injector. She does, and I see pings from the AP. I go on site to replace power supply later that day. I find No ethernet connectivity thru the injector to the NS5. I also find the workstation plugged into router has no ethernet connectivity to the router. I plug my laptop into router and verify that all link lites seem to work on all ports, yet the usb-ethernet adapter I installed 2 weeks ago is not seen by the workstation. yes I tried several usb ports. A couple weeks ago, I verified that our outdoor cable was good. Now as I look for answers, the only suspect is the ethernet cable. It has been in service 4-5 years, and I noticed a few staples had pulled out and left a 3 foot loop between the carport and house dangling. My theory is that this cable has an intermittent short that has fried the power supply, the ethernet port on the NS5, and the workstation ethernet port plugged into the router?? QUESTION: Have you guys seen stuff like this happen? Because this is a Bus. sub I will head out there shortly to 'finish up'. I will rip out and replace our cable, the NS5 , and probably the usb-ethernet port we put in. Sure would be nice to know I've hit the right things. your feedback is greatly appreciated! Thanks, Marshall Rabbit Meadows Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.78/2347 - Release Date: 09/05/09 05:51:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ever see Ethernet cables fail so that ...
Curious if you blew any water out of the low end of the cat5? I had a similar thing happen one time. It was atmospheric pumping caused by pressure changes; at least that was the theory. At 06:18 PM 9/5/2009, you wrote: Believe me, I tried replacing the end connectors before rerunning the cables. On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Scott Reedscottr...@onlyinternet.net wrote: Yes, that is possible. Could also be the connectors. IDC (Insulation Displacement Connects) can work loose and/or corrode, especially when subjected to unnatural stress such as lightning. rabbtux rabbtux wrote: All, I have a sub that has had Several failures. The last one is understandable, in that there was a direct lightning strike in their yard winthin 75' of CPE (NS5). Its Ethernet port was bad, yet the radio was fine?? The one before that, the power company worked on the power and said their oops may have caused problems. It did even though my equipment was plugged into a UPS. They now have a brand new quality surge protector for the equipment. Anyway, the customer calls and says no internet, and that the POE box light is not on. Fine, I instruct customer to remove compatible power from the router we installed and plug into the injector. She does, and I see pings from the AP. I go on site to replace power supply later that day. I find No ethernet connectivity thru the injector to the NS5. I also find the workstation plugged into router has no ethernet connectivity to the router. I plug my laptop into router and verify that all link lites seem to work on all ports, yet the usb-ethernet adapter I installed 2 weeks ago is not seen by the workstation. yes I tried several usb ports. A couple weeks ago, I verified that our outdoor cable was good. Now as I look for answers, the only suspect is the ethernet cable. It has been in service 4-5 years, and I noticed a few staples had pulled out and left a 3 foot loop between the carport and house dangling. My theory is that this cable has an intermittent short that has fried the power supply, the ethernet port on the NS5, and the workstation ethernet port plugged into the router?? QUESTION: Have you guys seen stuff like this happen? Because this is a Bus. sub I will head out there shortly to 'finish up'. I will rip out and replace our cable, the NS5 , and probably the usb-ethernet port we put in. Sure would be nice to know I've hit the right things. your feedback is greatly appreciated! Thanks, Marshall Rabbit Meadows Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.78/2347 - Release Date: 09/05/09 05:51:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ever see Ethernet cables fail so that ...
I call lightning damage and suggest suppression devices on both ends of the cable at this location. Sites that have continuous problems help identify when something isn't right ground-wise with the install. Every time lightning comes close the problem will repeat itself most likely. Your installation might be the same but maybe they added a ground rod somewhere that is affecting your install, maybe they lost some grounding - maybe similar at another close building etc.. Can't really tell you can just start to make changes until you have no more problems. That's my guess. Seen the same thing here at a couple of sites. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:18 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ever see Ethernet cables fail so that ... Believe me, I tried replacing the end connectors before rerunning the cables. On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Scott Reedscottr...@onlyinternet.net wrote: Yes, that is possible. Could also be the connectors. IDC (Insulation Displacement Connects) can work loose and/or corrode, especially when subjected to unnatural stress such as lightning. rabbtux rabbtux wrote: All, I have a sub that has had Several failures. The last one is understandable, in that there was a direct lightning strike in their yard winthin 75' of CPE (NS5). Its Ethernet port was bad, yet the radio was fine?? The one before that, the power company worked on the power and said their oops may have caused problems. It did even though my equipment was plugged into a UPS. They now have a brand new quality surge protector for the equipment. Anyway, the customer calls and says no internet, and that the POE box light is not on. Fine, I instruct customer to remove compatible power from the router we installed and plug into the injector. She does, and I see pings from the AP. I go on site to replace power supply later that day. I find No ethernet connectivity thru the injector to the NS5. I also find the workstation plugged into router has no ethernet connectivity to the router. I plug my laptop into router and verify that all link lites seem to work on all ports, yet the usb-ethernet adapter I installed 2 weeks ago is not seen by the workstation. yes I tried several usb ports. A couple weeks ago, I verified that our outdoor cable was good. Now as I look for answers, the only suspect is the ethernet cable. It has been in service 4-5 years, and I noticed a few staples had pulled out and left a 3 foot loop between the carport and house dangling. My theory is that this cable has an intermittent short that has fried the power supply, the ethernet port on the NS5, and the workstation ethernet port plugged into the router?? QUESTION: Have you guys seen stuff like this happen? Because this is a Bus. sub I will head out there shortly to 'finish up'. I will rip out and replace our cable, the NS5 , and probably the usb-ethernet port we put in. Sure would be nice to know I've hit the right things. your feedback is greatly appreciated! Thanks, Marshall Rabbit Meadows Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.78/2347 - Release Date: 09/05/09 05:51:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join
Re: [WISPA] Ever see Ethernet cables fail so that ...
This site has been good for last 4 years. After 3 destroyed radios, I will replace cable! On 9/5/09, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Believe me, I tried replacing the end connectors before rerunning the cables. On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Scott Reedscottr...@onlyinternet.net wrote: Yes, that is possible. Could also be the connectors. IDC (Insulation Displacement Connects) can work loose and/or corrode, especially when subjected to unnatural stress such as lightning. rabbtux rabbtux wrote: All, I have a sub that has had Several failures. The last one is understandable, in that there was a direct lightning strike in their yard winthin 75' of CPE (NS5). Its Ethernet port was bad, yet the radio was fine?? The one before that, the power company worked on the power and said their oops may have caused problems. It did even though my equipment was plugged into a UPS. They now have a brand new quality surge protector for the equipment. Anyway, the customer calls and says no internet, and that the POE box light is not on. Fine, I instruct customer to remove compatible power from the router we installed and plug into the injector. She does, and I see pings from the AP. I go on site to replace power supply later that day. I find No ethernet connectivity thru the injector to the NS5. I also find the workstation plugged into router has no ethernet connectivity to the router. I plug my laptop into router and verify that all link lites seem to work on all ports, yet the usb-ethernet adapter I installed 2 weeks ago is not seen by the workstation. yes I tried several usb ports. A couple weeks ago, I verified that our outdoor cable was good. Now as I look for answers, the only suspect is the ethernet cable. It has been in service 4-5 years, and I noticed a few staples had pulled out and left a 3 foot loop between the carport and house dangling. My theory is that this cable has an intermittent short that has fried the power supply, the ethernet port on the NS5, and the workstation ethernet port plugged into the router?? QUESTION: Have you guys seen stuff like this happen? Because this is a Bus. sub I will head out there shortly to 'finish up'. I will rip out and replace our cable, the NS5 , and probably the usb-ethernet port we put in. Sure would be nice to know I've hit the right things. your feedback is greatly appreciated! Thanks, Marshall Rabbit Meadows Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.78/2347 - Release Date: 09/05/09 05:51:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Sent from my mobile device WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti CPEs - SuperAG
10mhz channel, 24mbit air rate, 9.6mbit UDP, 9.3 TCP from MT to MT via MT-BS5-BS5-MT. This is a 15 mile link. It should move more data but I am CPU limited at the far end with a RB133C. UBNT AP-CPE test says 15mbit. Looks like the BS5's are not enabling compression. Mark Nash wrote: Can you verify on your AP that those features are actually functioning? Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: jree...@18-30chat.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti CPEs - SuperAG Mmmm. My Bullet 5's have ff/comp settings. I wonder if that is a mistake? Mark Nash wrote: According to Ubiquiti, these DO support ff comp: Nanostation 5 Nanostation Loco 5 Bullet 2 HP Picostation 2 HP All powerstations All others do not, including: Nanostation 2 Nanostation Loco 2 Bullet 2 (non-HP...WTF???) Bullet5 Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com - Original Message - From: ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti CPEs - SuperAG I know that with DDWRT, you have to pay for the license and you get a key. Not sure about OpenWRT. I don't recall any current UBNT I have used that did not support ff and comp. I have used most, except for the newest that just came out. Ralph -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mark Nash Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 12:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti CPEs - SuperAG It appears that only SOME of the Ubiquiti products enable compression fast frames, some don't. Is this accurate? Any success stories using the WRT firmware on these products? It seems that the hardware is capable, just hasn't been enabled in the firmware unless you purchase the higher end, more expensive products. This seems to be the ONLY thing keeping me from using these products in a big way as opposed to what I use now, StarOS. Mark Nash UnwiredWest 78 Centennial Loop Suite E Eugene, OR 97401 541-998- 541-998-5599 fax http://www.unwiredwest.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ever see Ethernet cables fail so that ...
Last time was lightning, this time all has been well since lightning in this area is infrequent. So this is the cable wind? On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.comwrote: I call lightning damage and suggest suppression devices on both ends of the cable at this location. Sites that have continuous problems help identify when something isn't right ground-wise with the install. Every time lightning comes close the problem will repeat itself most likely. Your installation might be the same but maybe they added a ground rod somewhere that is affecting your install, maybe they lost some grounding - maybe similar at another close building etc.. Can't really tell you can just start to make changes until you have no more problems. That's my guess. Seen the same thing here at a couple of sites. Scott Carullo Brevard Wireless 321-205-1100 x102 Original Message From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 7:18 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ever see Ethernet cables fail so that ... Believe me, I tried replacing the end connectors before rerunning the cables. On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Scott Reedscottr...@onlyinternet.net wrote: Yes, that is possible. Could also be the connectors. IDC (Insulation Displacement Connects) can work loose and/or corrode, especially when subjected to unnatural stress such as lightning. rabbtux rabbtux wrote: All, I have a sub that has had Several failures. The last one is understandable, in that there was a direct lightning strike in their yard winthin 75' of CPE (NS5). Its Ethernet port was bad, yet the radio was fine?? The one before that, the power company worked on the power and said their oops may have caused problems. It did even though my equipment was plugged into a UPS. They now have a brand new quality surge protector for the equipment. Anyway, the customer calls and says no internet, and that the POE box light is not on. Fine, I instruct customer to remove compatible power from the router we installed and plug into the injector. She does, and I see pings from the AP. I go on site to replace power supply later that day. I find No ethernet connectivity thru the injector to the NS5. I also find the workstation plugged into router has no ethernet connectivity to the router. I plug my laptop into router and verify that all link lites seem to work on all ports, yet the usb-ethernet adapter I installed 2 weeks ago is not seen by the workstation. yes I tried several usb ports. A couple weeks ago, I verified that our outdoor cable was good. Now as I look for answers, the only suspect is the ethernet cable. It has been in service 4-5 years, and I noticed a few staples had pulled out and left a 3 foot loop between the carport and house dangling. My theory is that this cable has an intermittent short that has fried the power supply, the ethernet port on the NS5, and the workstation ethernet port plugged into the router?? QUESTION: Have you guys seen stuff like this happen? Because this is a Bus. sub I will head out there shortly to 'finish up'. I will rip out and replace our cable, the NS5 , and probably the usb-ethernet port we put in. Sure would be nice to know I've hit the right things. your feedback is greatly appreciated! Thanks, Marshall Rabbit Meadows Technology WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.78/2347 - Release Date: 09/05/09 05:51:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
