Re: [WISPA] Small Managed Switches

2009-11-12 Thread Bret Clark
2nd that! Jayson Baker wrote: Not really, but if MT would come out with a RouterBoard that had 12, 24, 48 ports and was under $300 we'd buy a *ton* of them. I wouldn't think it'd be that difficult, actually. On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net wrote:

Re: [WISPA] Small Managed Switches

2009-11-12 Thread Brad Belton
Agreed! We could use 12 or 24 ports too! It would need to have a fast CPU and at least one USB port. Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jayson Baker Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 10:45 PM To:

[WISPA] vlan tagging/trunking

2009-11-12 Thread Phil Curnutt
Anybody out there using Vlan tagging to segment their network? Right now we are running unrouted level 1 with fixed IP's and starting to see a lot of bandwidth being eaten up with broadcast packets. Vlan tagging and trunking seems to be an easy way to segment, but we can't seem to wrap our heads

Re: [WISPA] Small Managed Switches

2009-11-12 Thread Joe Miller
Has anyone tried the Netgear GS108T? It is a fully managed switch that costs about $100.00 to $130.00. I buy mine from Staples. I'v had two of them in the field for over two years with no issues. - Original Message From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net To:

Re: [WISPA] Small Managed Switches

2009-11-12 Thread Andy Trimmell
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833316090 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Joe Miller Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 9:11 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small Managed Switches

[WISPA] Canopy 5.2 / 5.4 P9 SMs

2009-11-12 Thread Marco Coelho
Anybody have some used Moto Canopy P9 5.2 or 5.4 sm's they want to part with (qty 3-5 in each band)? Marco -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants

Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network.

2009-11-12 Thread Dennis Burgess
lol. We have done this work quite abit, but just a Butch said, you can't sit there and go, what works for one network, will work with another network. --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Small Managed Switches

2009-11-12 Thread jp
Some of their better managed switches do these things. Perhaps it's an incentive for people to who value those features to go upmarket a little. I do love their switches. I mostly buy used ones. I think the 26xx series can allow you to label ports. All the telnet/snmp manageable ones allow

Re: [WISPA] Small Managed Switches

2009-11-12 Thread Brad Belton
We use the Dell 2816 for small VLAN implementations and the Dell 6248 for more demanding needs. Both have worked flawlessly with MikroTik VLAN. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Joe Miller Sent: Thursday,

Re: [WISPA] ubiquity bullet2

2009-11-12 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
It's an omni... I think I'm gonna pull this out and drop in a tranzeo to see what it does as well. marlon - Original Message - From: Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ubiquity bullet2

Re: [WISPA] Small Managed Switches

2009-11-12 Thread Matt
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833316090 Is that rack mountable? Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] ubiquity bullet2

2009-11-12 Thread Michael Baird
Marlon, I thought about this after you mentioned it, we are using Ubiquity on the tower also, not MT, vendor readings will vary. Are you using Bullet2HP's or Bullet2M's? The M series isn't wholly G compatible at this time. Regards Michael Baird It's an omni... I think I'm gonna pull this

Re: [WISPA] Small Managed Switches

2009-11-12 Thread Josh Luthman
Has either 0 or 2 screw holes on the side - I bet not. Did anyone else notice ports 1-7 are HP auto-mdix and port 8 is IEEE auto mdi/x? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources.

Re: [WISPA] vlan tagging/trunking

2009-11-12 Thread jp
Yes. http://cdn.procurve.com/training/Manuals/2520-ATG-Nov09-S_14_03.pdf is a pretty good overview of vlan implementation. We use vlans to keep data separate on the same switch and reduce broadcasts, scope of mistakes, etc... A MT router might use VLANs to create separate interfaces (all over

Re: [WISPA] vlan tagging/trunking

2009-11-12 Thread Jayson Baker
We use VLAN's on every tower. Typically, we have a single-power gigabit MikroTik router, going into a 24- or 48-port switch. There are many VLAN's between the switch and MT. Some ports on the VLAN are untagged ports (i.e. you plug it in, and go - it comes out on the MT port as tagged with a

Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network.

2009-11-12 Thread sales
I looked at http://www.mikrotik.com/download/l7-protos.rsc but didnt find anything existing for L7 and netflix. Does anyone have one they are using? John Buwa Michiana Wireless 574-233-7170 - Original Message - From: Jayson Baker jay...@spectrasurf.com To: Joe Miller

Re: [WISPA] Metered Billing

2009-11-12 Thread Chuck Bartosch
On Nov 7, 2009, at 2:25 PM, RickG wrote: In the past, l worked for two electric companies. Their business models were dependant on meters. As far as internet access, Compuserve and AOL had the right idea from the start. Instead entrepanuers took advantage of their weakness at the

Re: [WISPA] Metered Billing

2009-11-12 Thread Chuck Bartosch
Actually, that is not what Rick was suggesting as I understood it. At one level he's saying he should be able to charge the company who is NOT in his service territory for responding to a customer enquiry (looking at a web page, downloading a movie). Your cell company charges *you* for your

Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network.

2009-11-12 Thread Butch Evans
On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 10:54 -0500, sa...@michianawireless.com wrote: I looked at http://www.mikrotik.com/download/l7-protos.rsc but didnt find anything existing for L7 and netflix. Does anyone have one they are using? I don't think one exists. It's one reason I'm working on the smart QOS

Re: [WISPA] Metered Billing

2009-11-12 Thread Chuck Bartosch
On Nov 7, 2009, at 9:35 PM, RickG wrote: For $100 a month per phone and the internet access is relatively slow. Not really an apples to apples comparison. In my home, I want unlimited electicity, natural gas, and water too! Ah, but information wants to be free! See, we can all trade

Re: [WISPA] Small Managed Switches

2009-11-12 Thread RickG
Cisco makes great routers but their switches suck. They have port compatability issues with other equipment. On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:48 PM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.netwrote: There are tons of great Cisco Switches going for cheap on the secondary markets in that price range and port

[WISPA] 8 Fiber Port Managed Switch

2009-11-12 Thread can...@believewireless.net
Anyone know of an affordable 8 port managed switch that has 8 fiber ports? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] 8 Fiber Port Managed Switch

2009-11-12 Thread Jayson Baker
3Com makes a good one. I know we use a couple. Can't remember the P/N. On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:28 AM, can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net wrote: Anyone know of an affordable 8 port managed switch that has 8 fiber ports?

Re: [WISPA] Small Managed Switches

2009-11-12 Thread Ryan Spott
It's not a compatibility issue, it is a should and shall issue. There is no IEEE standard or RFC for port auto-negotiation so Cisco does not have one. (period). ryan On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:21 AM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Cisco makes great routers but their switches suck. They have

Re: [WISPA] ubiquity bullet2

2009-11-12 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
No idea. - Original Message - From: Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:40 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] ubiquity bullet2 Marlon, I thought about this after you mentioned it, we are using Ubiquity on the tower also,

Re: [WISPA] 8 Fiber Port Managed Switch

2009-11-12 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Do u need it to be hardend ? If not, then there are a few good choices.. ... Used: Cisco WS-C4908G-L3 or WS-C3508-XL 3Com 4070 (24 sfp) or dell 6024F (24 sfp 8 Copper ports) or Dell 6024 (24 copper 8 SFP) Regards Faisal Imtiaz Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net

Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network.

2009-11-12 Thread Joe Miller
Make it a plug-n-play for us non Mikrotik people and I would say sold. - Original Message From: Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 11:39:20 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network.

Re: [WISPA] Metered Billing

2009-11-12 Thread Gary Garrett
If it is free you can have ALL the business! Ah, but information wants to be free! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] ubiquity bullet2

2009-11-12 Thread Michael Baird
Well the config interface is very clear about which model it is, also it would be on the unit and the box. Regards Michael Baird No idea. - Original Message - From: Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 7:40 AM

Re: [WISPA] Metered Billing

2009-11-12 Thread RickG
Chuck, That's the point. The consumer is NOT paying for excessive bandwidth use. When bandwidth runs us over $100/meg and one customer uses $300's worth for $50/month there is something wrong. The unlimited bandwidth model only works when you can oversubscribe the bandwidth. With bandwidth usage

Re: [WISPA] Metered Billing

2009-11-12 Thread RickG
LOL, All in good fun! To be clear, I really dont want free electricity, gas, or water because you get what you pay for every time. On the serious side, i disagree with your statement. Some information wants or needs to be free. Especially public domain info such is how to get your drivers license,

Re: [WISPA] Small Managed Switches

2009-11-12 Thread RickG
Ryan, I agree with your second statement but my statement is correct according to the dictionary: compatible/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [kuhm-pat-uh-buhl] Show IPA –adjective 1. capable of existing or living together in harmony: the most compatible married couple I know. 2. able to exist

Re: [WISPA] Metered Billing

2009-11-12 Thread AJ
As one of those big guys... We have tiers for data usage both on a Daily and a Monthly rate. For our base line customers on a $25 a month plan, it's 1.5 meg down with 1GB total per month bandwidth; 8 bucks a gig beyond that up to 5 gigs, everything beyond that is covered at a max $70 cap...

Re: [WISPA] Metered Billing

2009-11-12 Thread Chuck Bartosch
On Nov 8, 2009, at 2:54 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: LOL Lets be honest here. At 380 foot well isn't free. The electricity to pump the water isn't free either. So is the electricity needed to run your computer to get the Internet or for your phone if you have an unlimited local

Re: [WISPA] Metered Billing

2009-11-12 Thread Chuck Bartosch
On Nov 12, 2009, at 2:02 PM, RickG wrote: Chuck, That's the point. The consumer is NOT paying for excessive bandwidth use. When bandwidth runs us over $100/meg and one customer uses $300's worth for $50/month there is something wrong. Right, but if that's the case you either charge

Re: [WISPA] Metered Billing

2009-11-12 Thread Chuck Bartosch
On Nov 12, 2009, at 2:14 PM, RickG wrote: LOL, All in good fun! To be clear, I really dont want free electricity, gas, or water because you get what you pay for every time. On the serious side, i disagree with your statement. Really, it's just a quote, not a statement by me per se. I

[WISPA] About Hulu and Netflix and youtube... increased data delivery is here to stay.

2009-11-12 Thread MDK
I've been watching the thread about it with great interest.Partly because I was wondering if anyone was going to try my solution, which is, to attempt to be able to deliver the bandwidth to the people who want to use these, and have them work fine. Please understand, I'm not talking about

Re: [WISPA] Nano Sation 2

2009-11-12 Thread Robert West
The boat has arrived..! Shesh I was able to order so much that now I have to find a way to hide it from the wife. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Data Technology Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009

Re: [WISPA] About Hulu and Netflix and youtube... increased data delivery is here to stay.

2009-11-12 Thread David Hulsebus
I'm counting on my customer usage to increase in step with Moore's Law, a doubling every 18-24 months. If you take a 9.6k modem connection in 1994 which was acceptable and double it every 2 years, you get 2.5 MB in 2010 - and that's what's considered acceptable broadband today. Dave Hulsebus

Re: [WISPA] About Hulu and Netflix and youtube... increased datadelivery is here to stay.

2009-11-12 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Eventually we'll all be able to do this. But it'll take quite a while for the technology to catch up to the demand. What we also need is better compression mechanisms. With the processor capacities we have now that should happen as soon as the big boys start putting bit caps on. marlon

Re: [WISPA] Nano Sation 2

2009-11-12 Thread Nick Olsen
Where from? Or was this a case of Nick not being able to detect internet sarcasm. Nick Olsen Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 4:10 PM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] Nano Sation 2

2009-11-12 Thread Robert West
Wlanparts has it. I also got an email from Ben over at Ubiquiti who says ...the big volumes haven't landed yet...There are some that have hit over the past couple of days, but the big volumes will be hitting in that 1-2 week period. Bob- -Original Message- From:

Re: [WISPA] Nano Sation 2

2009-11-12 Thread D. Ryan Spott
I have been hearing 'bout that '1-2 week period' for about 10 weeks now. Ryan On Nov 12, 2009, at 3:13 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just- micro.com wrote: Wlanparts has it. I also got an email from Ben over at Ubiquiti who says ...the big volumes haven't landed yet...There are some that

Re: [WISPA] Canopy 5.2 / 5.4 P9 SMs

2009-11-12 Thread 3-dB Networks
I have some brand new never deployed P9 5250SM's... feel free to hit me offlist Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marco Coelho Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 8:02

Re: [WISPA] Nano Sation 2

2009-11-12 Thread eje
Middle next week or at worst end of. Next week. Keep an eye on our twitter page for updates (twitter.com/wisprouter) . /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:18:01 To: WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] HP to buy 3Com for 3.1bln

2009-11-12 Thread Chris Hills
On 12/11/09 05:38, Josh Luthman wrote: This was brought up in an IRC channel earlier today no one could answer this question: What does 3com have that prospective buyers want? TippingPoint? I do not believe HP has anything in the IPS space at present. Their products are in use by 30% of

Re: [WISPA] Metered Billing

2009-11-12 Thread Chuck Profito
AJ. I assume you are a wireless isp. My question, what equipment are you using to provide 15 mg bursting to 20 meg for 60 bucks a month? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of AJ Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 11:29 AM To:

Re: [WISPA] Nano Sation 2

2009-11-12 Thread Forbes Mercy
I heard the boat was held up for some reason in Somalia, AYE MATEY :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 2:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nano Sation 2 Where

Re: [WISPA] Nano Sation 2

2009-11-12 Thread George Morris
Good thing its not the Nano Station 5Ms, you would still be waiting for the firmware upgrade to actually be able to use them long after the boat finally arrives once the pirates finally let it go. Seems like promises, promises for now. George Morris Candlelight 866-924-0530 Direct

Re: [WISPA] 8 Fiber Port Managed Switch

2009-11-12 Thread Tom DeReggi
I think Netgear has one pretty cheap. Although, used 3550's are pretty easilly found at $1500 a pop, w/ OSPF. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net To: wireless@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] About Hulu and Netflix and youtube... increased data delivery is here to stay.

2009-11-12 Thread Butch Evans
At 03:09 PM 11/12/2009, you wrote: I've been watching the thread about it with great interest.Partly because I was wondering if anyone was going to try my solution, which is, to attempt to be able to deliver the bandwidth to the people who want to use these, and have them work fine.

Re: [WISPA] Small Managed Switches

2009-11-12 Thread John Thomas
I know that used to be an issue, but we have been seeing great results with Cisco 2960 series switches. John RickG wrote: Cisco makes great routers but their switches suck. They have port compatability issues with other equipment. On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:48 PM, Faisal Imtiaz