Re: [WISPA] Mushroom Truffle BBNA

2009-11-23 Thread jree...@18-30chat.net
I would not know. After discovering how the device/service works I went with a BGP bonded setup that is half the cost, even tho the data lines cost more. Jeff Broadwick wrote: I'm not sure they've figured out their voice issues. Regards, Jeff Jeff Broadwick ImageStream

Re: [WISPA] 10MHz, 5MHz - unstable for voice?

2009-11-23 Thread Gino Villarini
Iirc Lots of wifi cards can tx on 5 and 10 MHz channels but would still receive at 20 MHz Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Nov 23, 2009, at 2:35 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Less chance of an issue but the issue is more damaging is this point. On 11/23/09,

[WISPA] Another Ruckus review

2009-11-23 Thread os10rules
http://www.edn.com/article/CA6296066.html WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List:

[WISPA] And another Ruckus review

2009-11-23 Thread os10rules
http://www.pcworld.com/article/160867/ruckus_wifi_gear_goes_upmarket.html WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] 10MHz, 5MHz - unstable for voice?

2009-11-23 Thread Mike
802.11 clause 17 specifies a spectral mask must be used which limits permitted distribution of power across each channel. The requirement is that the signal be attenuated by at least 30 dB from its peak energy at ± 11MHz from the center frequency. That is how the definition of a 22 MHz

Re: [WISPA] 10MHz, 5MHz - unstable for voice?

2009-11-23 Thread os10rules
When you have a 5MHz or 10MHz channel which is within the spectrum of a competitor's 20MHz channel, doesn't the adaptive nature of OFDM cause the competitor's 20MHz link to not use the OFDM carriers in the portion of the spectrum your 5MHz or 10MHz channel is occupying? Greg On Nov 23, 2009,

Re: [WISPA] 10MHz, 5MHz - unstable for voice?

2009-11-23 Thread Mike
In a way, yes. There are some adaptive modulation techniques that are smarter than 802.11g, MIMO being one. What breaking the channel into separate sub carriers accomplishes is being able to send coherence through selective fading and cross talk. Mike At 07:22 AM 11/23/2009, Greg wrote:

Re: [WISPA] 10MHz, 5MHz - unstable for voice?

2009-11-23 Thread Mike
The beauty and usefulness of OFDM is at the receiver. Those multiple subcariers allow easier DETECTION in a multipath or interference environment. Those subcarriers being transmitted can be done at a lower signal speed and are aggregated at the RECEIVER into the original high speed signal.

Re: [WISPA] Indoor deployment question

2009-11-23 Thread Robert West
I did a hotel 4 years ago with all Linksys WRT54g's flashed with DD-WRT to use WDS. Guy was cheap so I picked up the Linksys for less than 50 bucks each and installed 6 of them in the hotel, 2 floors. Small place. Have them all set to reboot every day, use watchdog for resetting and I port

Re: [WISPA] 10MHz, 5MHz - unstable for voice?

2009-11-23 Thread Robert West
Yeah, the new AirOS firmware is supposed to give priority to voice. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 5:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 10MHz, 5MHz -

Re: [WISPA] 10MHz, 5MHz - unstable for voice?

2009-11-23 Thread Robert West
Newest as in the firmware that came out on Saturday? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Israel Lopez-LISTS Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 6:02 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 10MHz, 5MHz - unstable for

Re: [WISPA] Indoor deployment question

2009-11-23 Thread RickG
I did the same exact thing! Still working today with no issues. -RickG On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: I did a hotel 4 years ago with all Linksys WRT54g's flashed with DD-WRT to use WDS. Guy was cheap so I picked up the Linksys for less than 50

Re: [WISPA] Indoor deployment question

2009-11-23 Thread Robert West
And how bizarre is that? Sometimes cheap can work out perfectly. I wish everything was as trouble free. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 12:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject:

[WISPA] Ligowave 24ghz Backhaul Radio

2009-11-23 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
Just installed a Ligowave 24ghz unlicensed backhaul radio to take the place of a 100meg fiber loop. We are going 2.97 miles with the 2' dishes. -65 signal on both sides and it has tested out at 85meg of capacity in both directions. Very happy with it so far. The software and management

Re: [WISPA] Ligowave 24ghz Backhaul Radio

2009-11-23 Thread Bret Clark
Has it run through heavy rain yet, wonder how much rain affectst the attenuation. On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 12:01 -0700, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: Just installed a Ligowave 24ghz unlicensed backhaul radio to take the place of a 100meg fiber loop. We are going 2.97 miles with the 2' dishes.

Re: [WISPA] Ligowave 24ghz Backhaul Radio

2009-11-23 Thread can...@believewireless.net
Why only 85Mbps? I figured they'd do a full 100. On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote: Has it run through heavy rain yet, wonder how much rain affectst the attenuation. On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 12:01 -0700, Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: Just installed a

Re: [WISPA] Ligowave 24ghz Backhaul Radio

2009-11-23 Thread Brad Belton
I can tell you that in our neck of the woods a -65 at 3miles using 24GHz wouldn't last long! $8K! Really? Sounds awful high for an 85Mbps OFDM radio set... Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bret Clark

Re: [WISPA] Ligowave 24ghz Backhaul Radio

2009-11-23 Thread Mark Stephenson
What are your thoughts about the impact of rain and snow on the 24 GHz signal? On 11/23/09 2:23 PM, can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net wrote: Why only 85Mbps? I figured they'd do a full 100. On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Bret Clark bcl...@spectraaccess.com wrote: Has

Re: [WISPA] Ligowave 24ghz Backhaul Radio

2009-11-23 Thread Gino Villarini
its not OFDM, its true microwave FDX I concur -65 at 3 miles it's a stretch for 24 ghz We have a Pair of this units we bought directly from the Manufacturer, It's a great unit, mount its not that bad. Ours is going half mile. 98 Mbps Fdx Radio is limited due to FE port only, GE is out Gino

Re: [WISPA] Ligowave 24ghz Backhaul Radio

2009-11-23 Thread Brad Belton
We have a Ceragon 23Ghz OC3 link up that is power leveled to -50 with 10db of power at .15 mile using a 1' antenna and 2' antenna. The link has ATPC and uses it...that should give you an idea how quickly 23-24GHz will fade in some parts of the country! lol Best, Brad -Original

Re: [WISPA] Ligowave 24ghz Backhaul Radio

2009-11-23 Thread Brad Belton
I've never seen the Ligo 24Ghz radios...just based my OFDM comment on what Matt said in his initial post: The software and management interface is very comprehensive and has some interesting features in it, including a constellation feature that gives an approximation of what the OFDM signals

Re: [WISPA] Ligowave 24ghz Backhaul Radio

2009-11-23 Thread Matt Larsen - Lists
This is not your typical OFDM radio set - the back end is a licensed type radio setup to run in 24ghz. I'm not that worried about rain fade around here. Western Nebraska used to be considered part of the Great American Desert - so heavy rain or snow is not a regular occurrence. I've got

[WISPA] Tranzeo 16-H's

2009-11-23 Thread Michael Baird
I've got a new deployment going forward and their seems to be a backup on the Tranzeo TR-24H-120-16 antennas. I need two, if anybody has a couple of these laying around they want to get rid of, please let me know and how much you need out of it? Regards Michael Baird

Re: [WISPA] Ligowave 24ghz Backhaul Radio

2009-11-23 Thread chris cooper
How much are the Apex units? Chris -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 2:56 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ligowave 24ghz Backhaul Radio I've never seen the

Re: [WISPA] Ligowave 24ghz Backhaul Radio

2009-11-23 Thread Gino Villarini
We paid a bit less, A trango solution would have cost us $4k-5k more (including FCC fees). We just needed 50 Mbps on this link, if we grow it pass that, we would go licensed and move the 24 ghz someplace else! Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143

Re: [WISPA] Freeside

2009-11-23 Thread ccrum
Jeremy is no longer able to help with Freeside issues outside of their $2200 install fee. If anyone else has some experience, I'm willing to pay and hourly rate. I'm 99% there. I'm just getting an error when trying to run the database setup. I've posted to their forum, but it look like

Re: [WISPA] Freeside

2009-11-23 Thread Josh Luthman
What's the error? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 3:15 PM, ccrum cc...@dot11net.com wrote: Jeremy is no longer able to help

Re: [WISPA] Freeside

2009-11-23 Thread ccrum
Running as freeside user: $ freeside-setup -d mydomain.com NO CONFIGURATION TABLE FOUND at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/FS/UID.pm line 131. DBD::mysql::db do failed: Table 'cust_svc' already exists at /usr/bin/freeside-setup line 109. CREATE error: Table 'cust_svc' already exists doing

Re: [WISPA] Ligowave 24ghz Backhaul Radio

2009-11-23 Thread Brad Belton
Ha! If only you knew just how funny that question really is...as I shuffle through my most recent stack of Trango quotes. grin Seriously, I think the Trango Apex radios start in the $8k range and go up from there. Trango has run specials on their radios offering them at times for even less

Re: [WISPA] Freeside

2009-11-23 Thread ccrum
Scratch that last. I deleted the database and started over. Now I get this error: [frees...@localhost /]$ freeside-setup -d dot11net.com NO CONFIGURATION TABLE FOUND at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/FS/UID.pm line 131. DBD::mysql::db do failed: BLOB/TEXT column 'job' used in key specification

Re: [WISPA] Freeside

2009-11-23 Thread Jory Privett
Did you try calling Ivan directly and have one of his guys look at it? He normally works on a per hour charge Jory - Original Message - From: ccrum cc...@dot11net.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Freeside

Re: [WISPA] Freeside

2009-11-23 Thread Josh Luthman
Well the first line... NO CONFIGURATION TABLE FOUND at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/FS/UID.pm Something is missing in that. Can't say what it is because it looks more like a library, not configuration. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH

Re: [WISPA] Freeside

2009-11-23 Thread Jeremy Davis
On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 14:37 -0600, ccrum wrote: Scratch that last. I deleted the database and started over. Now I get this error: [frees...@localhost /]$ freeside-setup -d dot11net.com NO CONFIGURATION TABLE FOUND at /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.8/FS/UID.pm line 131. DBD::mysql::db do

Re: [WISPA] 10MHz, 5MHz - unstable for voice?

2009-11-23 Thread Israel Lopez-LISTS
No. I didn't upgrade firmware on Saturday. I checked firmware on Friday and upgraded the units. Files used are: NanoStation2-v3.5.build4494.bin Bullet2HP-v3.5.build4494.bin I'm gonna go setup the gear this afternoon. Robert West wrote: Newest as in the firmware that came out on Saturday?

Re: [WISPA] 10MHz, 5MHz - unstable for voice?

2009-11-23 Thread Robert West
Sorry, yeah, that's the latest. Was late Friday when it came out. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Israel Lopez-LISTS Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 4:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 10MHz, 5MHz -

Re: [WISPA] Freeside

2009-11-23 Thread Mike Hammett
I just hired a Linux smart friend of mine to tackle it. If he gets it right, I'll see if he's willing to do it for someone else. The VA is being really slow in getting his GI Bill monies to him and his part time job can only get him 10 hours/week, so he's kinda desperate for cash. -

[WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8

2009-11-23 Thread Steve Barnes
Since we are giving recommendations I just had a RadWin 2000 FDX Link put up and with 2- 2ft FDX PacWireless Dishes. The Link is 18.2 miles. -62 both ends. Can push 42 Mbps FDX using TCP Bandwidth test on Mtiks on both ends. Link extremely stable $4000. Software easy to use. Radios so easy

Re: [WISPA] RadWin 2000 5.8

2009-11-23 Thread Josh Luthman
Software easy to use Is this the Windows only RadWin stuff still? Not sure how in the world you could call that thing easy to use, but we are not the same person. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing

[WISPA] TrangoLINK Apex

2009-11-23 Thread Matt
What kind of luck is everyone having with the TrangoLINK Apex? Any failures? Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] TrangoLINK Apex

2009-11-23 Thread Travis Johnson
Tastes great... less filling. Travis Microserv Matt wrote: What kind of luck is everyone having with the TrangoLINK Apex? Any failures? Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] 5.6 GHZ?

2009-11-23 Thread John Thomas
On a Cisco 1231, Band 3 is 5.470 to 5.725 GHz. John George Morris wrote: Its part of 5.4. In Canada, you have to stay out of 5600-5650 due to weather radar, suspect the US may be much the same... George -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org