Re: [WISPA] health insurance
I'm not paying it out of my pocket... the company is... :) Travis Microserv Kevin Neal wrote: Call me cheap I guess. I have a $229/mo plan for my family of 4 (5 in a week or so). $7500 deductible. Next year my rate will drop, after the insurance company re-rates their HSA rates I'll be moving to the $10,000 deductible plan, that will be an absolutely no benefits until 10k is paid. I don't mind it, I'd rather not have to pay the extra per month. Just a quick comparison, if I pay $229/mo vs $650/mo, if I max my deductible for the year I pay $1698 more than Marlon, but if I only hit $750, I saved $5052. I'd rather put money in the bank and have it work for me than giving it to an insurance company. -Kevin On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: Here in Wa. it's $650ish for me and the three kids. $750 deductable per person. The wife's is covered by her work. No dental and a crappy vision plan. What we are missing is competition in the medical industry. It's got TOO much government interference and no lawsuit protection. marlon - Original Message - From: "Travis Johnson" t...@ida.net To: fai...@snappydsl.net; "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance A... now we know it's Florida that is causing everyone else's insurance rates to go up... :) We pay about $700/month to cover an entire family (this is just health insurance, the dental and vision is extra). Travis Microserv Faisal Imtiaz wrote: As a business owner, in Florida, where the Health Insurance is one of the highest in the US, we have seeing 15-20% increses every year for the last few years. It is nice to see that you offer 100% health insurance coverage for all of your Employees, where the company is picking up the Tab for the Insurance Premiums. Simply for the sake of my understanding, why would you choose to " force us to go to a subcontractor type work-force (at least for 5-10 of our current employees) to get us under the 25 employee limit and . " offer less benefits for everyone in the company " At the end of the day, $412 / employee is not a whole lot of money, especially when you are talking about a benfit like Health Insurance... If you are looking to have some means of off-setting the additional $$$, would'nt it me easier and better for everyone if you reduced your Company provided 100% coverage to let's say 90%, and have the Employee pay the other 10% ? What are your current costs for Health Insurnace ? We are seeing typically $300-$400 / month for a single male, and $1300-$1450 /month for a family From what we have been seeing in the last few years, including our present coverage increase (approx $8100/year for 3 families)... $412 /year increase would be a Blessing and a Christmas present... --- Just a thought. Faisal Imtiaz Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] health insurance Hi, What are everyone else's plans if this new health insurance plan gets passed in Congress? We fall in the 25-100 employee category, so they are estimating our health insurance costs would go up $412 per employee for us (we already cover 100% of the costs for our employees). So, basically this would force us to go to a subcontractor type work-force (at least for 5-10 of our current employees) to get us under the 25 employee limit and offer less benefits for everyone in the company. Once again, it seems our government is stepping in where it doesn't belong. Either take over the health care system 100% (including funding it), or leave it alone. Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] health insurance
It's my understanding that for purposes of insurance, the rules that govern 1099 work are being changed dramatically.The subcontractor status is mostly going to go away. This will mean that if someone runs his own business, but only works for you, bye bye status... and that includes workman's comp, unemployment, withholdings, etc. Heaven only knows if this is in whatever abomination is finally produced, but the intent is definitely to pretty much end this kind of stuff. One of the ways that was in one of the bills, was to force all individuals who work under that status to buy insurance. -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 5:15 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance H.. I feel an increase in the use of the 1099 form would be the easy answer. I lived as a 1099 for many years. I'm with you on your feelings of get all the way in or get all the way out. I'd prefer they get all the way in and just do it because, honestly, it will happen in the end anyhow. Why put it off and cause more suffering? I know, politics doesn't belong here usually and I won't be hit like that but it is an issue for some of us. (And as far as I'm concerned they can give gays marriage also and just get it the heck out of the way finally, sheeesh! Why should I be the only one to suffer through marriage???) But the reality is that many companies are going to go to making who they can a 1099 contractor and that's going to open up another can of left in the sun worms. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] health insurance Hi, What are everyone else's plans if this new health insurance plan gets passed in Congress? We fall in the 25-100 employee category, so they are estimating our health insurance costs would go up $412 per employee for us (we already cover 100% of the costs for our employees). So, basically this would force us to go to a subcontractor type work-force (at least for 5-10 of our current employees) to get us under the 25 employee limit and offer less benefits for everyone in the company. Once again, it seems our government is stepping in where it doesn't belong. Either take over the health care system 100% (including funding it), or leave it alone. Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] health insurance
Then watch the work go away... They just keep trying to drive everything underground... MDK wrote: It's my understanding that for purposes of insurance, the rules that govern 1099 work are being changed dramatically.The "subcontractor" status is mostly going to go away. This will mean that if someone runs his own business, but only works for you, bye bye status... and that includes workman's comp, unemployment, withholdings, etc. Heaven only knows if this is in whatever abomination is finally produced, but the intent is definitely to pretty much end this kind of stuff. One of the ways that was in one of the bills, was to force all individuals who work under that status to buy insurance. -- From: "Robert West" robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 5:15 PM To: "'WISPA General List'" wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance H.. I feel an increase in the use of the 1099 form would be the easy answer. I lived as a 1099 for many years. I'm with you on your feelings of "get all the way in or get all the way out". I'd prefer they get all the way in and just do it because, honestly, it will happen in the end anyhow. Why put it off and cause more suffering? I know, politics doesn't belong here usually and I won't be hit like that but it is an issue for some of us. (And as far as I'm concerned they can give gays marriage also and just get it the heck out of the way finally, sheeesh! Why should I be the only one to suffer through marriage???) But the reality is that many companies are going to go to making who they can a 1099 contractor and that's going to open up another can of left in the sun worms. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] health insurance Hi, What are everyone else's plans if this new health insurance plan gets passed in Congress? We fall in the 25-100 employee category, so they are estimating our health insurance costs would go up $412 per employee for us (we already cover 100% of the costs for our employees). So, basically this would force us to go to a subcontractor type work-force (at least for 5-10 of our current employees) to get us under the 25 employee limit and offer less benefits for everyone in the company. Once again, it seems our government is stepping in where it doesn't belong. Either take over the health care system 100% (including funding it), or leave it alone. Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] health insurance
Now, now, now.. You know as well as I that any rule they make and any hurdle they put up on the front end, they also make rules and take down hurdles on the back end so that things only appear different yet remain the same. The goal of most politicians is to do nothing yet appear to be doing everything. It's all noise and fluff and in the end we'll just be filling out a form with a different number yet the information required will be identical to the 1099. My wife agrees with me and she is always right. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 3:25 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance It's my understanding that for purposes of insurance, the rules that govern 1099 work are being changed dramatically.The subcontractor status is mostly going to go away. This will mean that if someone runs his own business, but only works for you, bye bye status... and that includes workman's comp, unemployment, withholdings, etc. Heaven only knows if this is in whatever abomination is finally produced, but the intent is definitely to pretty much end this kind of stuff. One of the ways that was in one of the bills, was to force all individuals who work under that status to buy insurance. -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 5:15 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance H.. I feel an increase in the use of the 1099 form would be the easy answer. I lived as a 1099 for many years. I'm with you on your feelings of get all the way in or get all the way out. I'd prefer they get all the way in and just do it because, honestly, it will happen in the end anyhow. Why put it off and cause more suffering? I know, politics doesn't belong here usually and I won't be hit like that but it is an issue for some of us. (And as far as I'm concerned they can give gays marriage also and just get it the heck out of the way finally, sheeesh! Why should I be the only one to suffer through marriage???) But the reality is that many companies are going to go to making who they can a 1099 contractor and that's going to open up another can of left in the sun worms. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] health insurance Hi, What are everyone else's plans if this new health insurance plan gets passed in Congress? We fall in the 25-100 employee category, so they are estimating our health insurance costs would go up $412 per employee for us (we already cover 100% of the costs for our employees). So, basically this would force us to go to a subcontractor type work-force (at least for 5-10 of our current employees) to get us under the 25 employee limit and offer less benefits for everyone in the company. Once again, it seems our government is stepping in where it doesn't belong. Either take over the health care system 100% (including funding it), or leave it alone. Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] health insurance
I'm thinking of becoming a Mexican citizen then sneaking back here to work under the table for myself. It's only a plan at the moment. Waiting for word from the consulate. I'm not racist against Mexicans in any way, it's just that Canada was my first choice but somehow they had already heard of me and they weren't very nice about it either. Bob- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 3:51 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance Then watch the work go away... They just keep trying to drive everything underground... MDK wrote: It's my understanding that for purposes of insurance, the rules that govern 1099 work are being changed dramatically.The subcontractor status is mostly going to go away. This will mean that if someone runs his own business, but only works for you, bye bye status... and that includes workman's comp, unemployment, withholdings, etc. Heaven only knows if this is in whatever abomination is finally produced, but the intent is definitely to pretty much end this kind of stuff. One of the ways that was in one of the bills, was to force all individuals who work under that status to buy insurance. -- From: Robert West mailto:robert.w...@just-micro.com robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 5:15 PM To: 'WISPA General List' mailto:wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance H.. I feel an increase in the use of the 1099 form would be the easy answer. I lived as a 1099 for many years. I'm with you on your feelings of get all the way in or get all the way out. I'd prefer they get all the way in and just do it because, honestly, it will happen in the end anyhow. Why put it off and cause more suffering? I know, politics doesn't belong here usually and I won't be hit like that but it is an issue for some of us. (And as far as I'm concerned they can give gays marriage also and just get it the heck out of the way finally, sheeesh! Why should I be the only one to suffer through marriage???) But the reality is that many companies are going to go to making who they can a 1099 contractor and that's going to open up another can of left in the sun worms. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] health insurance Hi, What are everyone else's plans if this new health insurance plan gets passed in Congress? We fall in the 25-100 employee category, so they are estimating our health insurance costs would go up $412 per employee for us (we already cover 100% of the costs for our employees). So, basically this would force us to go to a subcontractor type work-force (at least for 5-10 of our current employees) to get us under the 25 employee limit and offer less benefits for everyone in the company. Once again, it seems our government is stepping in where it doesn't belong. Either take over the health care system 100% (including funding it), or leave it alone. Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] health insurance
Yeah. Its because all the old folks retire there Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 12:06 AM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance A... now we know it's Florida that is causing everyone else's insurance rates to go up... :) We pay about $700/month to cover an entire family (this is just health insurance, the dental and vision is extra). Travis Microserv Faisal Imtiaz wrote: As a business owner, in Florida, where the Health Insurance is one of the highest in the US, we have seeing 15-20% increses every year for the last few years. It is nice to see that you offer 100% health insurance coverage for all of your Employees, where the company is picking up the Tab for the Insurance Premiums. Simply for the sake of my understanding, why would you choose to force us to go to a subcontractor type work-force (at least for 5-10 of our current employees) to get us under the 25 employee limit and . offer less benefits for everyone in the company At the end of the day, $412 / employee is not a whole lot of money, especially when you are talking about a benfit like Health Insurance... If you are looking to have some means of off-setting the additional $$$, would'nt it me easier and better for everyone if you reduced your Company provided 100% coverage to let's say 90%, and have the Employee pay the other 10% ? What are your current costs for Health Insurnace ? We are seeing typically $300-$400 / month for a single male, and $1300-$1450 /month for a family From what we have been seeing in the last few years, including our present coverage increase (approx $8100/year for 3 families)... $412 /year increase would be a Blessing and a Christmas present... --- Just a thought. Faisal Imtiaz Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] health insurance Hi, What are everyone else's plans if this new health insurance plan gets passed in Congress? We fall in the 25-100 employee category, so they are estimating our health insurance costs would go up $412 per employee for us (we already cover 100% of the costs for our employees). So, basically this would force us to go to a subcontractor type work-force (at least for 5-10 of our current employees) to get us under the 25 employee limit and offer less benefits for everyone in the company. Once again, it seems our government is stepping in where it doesn't belong. Either take over the health care system 100% (including funding it), or leave it alone. Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] health insurance
Yes, we in South Florida have some of the highest insurance rates (all types of insurance). There are many reasons, non of them that make a great deal of sense to me, but I have heard all kinds of excuses... The original point was, Health Care Insurance is a necessity. Health Care Insurance should be a vital benefit, provided by an Employer whenever possible. Health Care Insurance is expensive So, How do you set up this benefit so that it makes sense for all (Employer and Employee). There are a number of very effective ways to do this, rather than the drastic options to convert Employees to Contractors... BTW, if you Talk to you Accountant, they will also tell you that simply paying someone on a 1099 as a Contractor, does not make them a contract employee There are other 'litmus' tests used to determine the exact status, in-case someone challenges the status quo. Faisal Imtiaz Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:06 PM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance A... now we know it's Florida that is causing everyone else's insurance rates to go up... :) We pay about $700/month to cover an entire family (this is just health insurance, the dental and vision is extra). Travis Microserv Faisal Imtiaz wrote: As a business owner, in Florida, where the Health Insurance is one of the highest in the US, we have seeing 15-20% increses every year for the last few years. It is nice to see that you offer 100% health insurance coverage for all of your Employees, where the company is picking up the Tab for the Insurance Premiums. Simply for the sake of my understanding, why would you choose to force us to go to a subcontractor type work-force (at least for 5-10 of our current employees) to get us under the 25 employee limit and . offer less benefits for everyone in the company At the end of the day, $412 / employee is not a whole lot of money, especially when you are talking about a benfit like Health Insurance... If you are looking to have some means of off-setting the additional $$$, would'nt it me easier and better for everyone if you reduced your Company provided 100% coverage to let's say 90%, and have the Employee pay the other 10% ? What are your current costs for Health Insurnace ? We are seeing typically $300-$400 / month for a single male, and $1300-$1450 /month for a family From what we have been seeing in the last few years, including our present coverage increase (approx $8100/year for 3 families)... $412 /year increase would be a Blessing and a Christmas present... --- Just a thought. Faisal Imtiaz Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] health insurance Hi, What are everyone else's plans if this new health insurance plan gets passed in Congress? We fall in the 25-100 employee category, so they are estimating our health insurance costs would go up $412 per employee for us (we already cover 100% of the costs for our employees). So, basically this would force us to go to a subcontractor type work-force (at least for 5-10 of our current employees) to get us under the 25 employee limit and offer less benefits for everyone in the company. Once again, it seems our government is stepping in where it doesn't belong. Either take over the health care system 100% (including funding it), or leave it alone. Travis Microserv -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
[WISPA] Outdoor Rack
Does anyone know of a source for an outdoor rack for a tower site? Need to put rack mount UPS, rack mount GigE switch, POE, batteries and etc in it. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Outdoor Rack
Art Kelly at DCI is a good guy. They make all kinds of stuff, including shelters and cabinets for cellcos. Very responsive. Art Kelly DCI Sales Cell 847 840 5520 artkelly-at-divcon.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 2:24 PM To: WISPA General List; motorola-us...@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Outdoor Rack Does anyone know of a source for an outdoor rack for a tower site? Need to put rack mount UPS, rack mount GigE switch, POE, batteries and etc in it. Matt WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] health insurance
My Plans? I am going to create 4 new jobs and really stimulate the economy. Job 1: I am going to quit my day job. It is a high-paying job that provides benefits to myself and my family. This job can go to whom-ever wants it. Job 2: I will work full time for my company. Job 3: The growth of my company will be higher as I can now dedicate 168 hours to it rather than my normal 118 or so. Job 4: My wife will quit working for the company to focus on her photography business. You may ask; But why don't you just quit now? The money for you is there, especially if you take the leap! Well, yeah, the money is there... until I go to pay for my own insurance Trust me! I DO!... I WANT TO PAY HIGH PRICES FOR INSURANCE!!! PLEASE!! But I can't... Why? Because my wife has pre-existing conditions and I have a chronic disorder (psoriasis OMG Flakey skin!). So I cannot get private insurance for my family unless I have 3+ employees working for my company. Hell, even people with drunk driving histories can still by SR22 insurance.. I can't even get a high-rate private health insurance plan that screws me. I could rant more, but I think most of the above message is due to low blood sugar and too much coffee... ryan On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Hi, What are everyone else's plans if this new health insurance plan gets passed in Congress? We fall in the 25-100 employee category, so they are estimating our health insurance costs would go up $412 per employee for us (we already cover 100% of the costs for our employees). So, basically this would force us to go to a subcontractor type work-force (at least for 5-10 of our current employees) to get us under the 25 employee limit and offer less benefits for everyone in the company. Once again, it seems our government is stepping in where it doesn't belong. Either take over the health care system 100% (including funding it), or leave it alone. Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] health insurance
I'd agree with you...but, this admin is determined to break everything. Normally Congress wouldn't get this meddlesome, either, because they don't like big changes, but right now, the radicals are driving the agenda, because they're in charge... and using every sledghammer or bribery or extortion means they have to get compliance out of the hesitant... It's not politics as usual, in any sense. Things we used to consider safe aren't, and axioms that used to be, are no longer. -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 1:30 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance Now, now, now.. You know as well as I that any rule they make and any hurdle they put up on the front end, they also make rules and take down hurdles on the back end so that things only appear different yet remain the same. The goal of most politicians is to do nothing yet appear to be doing everything. It's all noise and fluff and in the end we'll just be filling out a form with a different number yet the information required will be identical to the 1099. My wife agrees with me and she is always right. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of MDK Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 3:25 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance It's my understanding that for purposes of insurance, the rules that govern 1099 work are being changed dramatically.The subcontractor status is mostly going to go away. This will mean that if someone runs his own business, but only works for you, bye bye status... and that includes workman's comp, unemployment, withholdings, etc. Heaven only knows if this is in whatever abomination is finally produced, but the intent is definitely to pretty much end this kind of stuff. One of the ways that was in one of the bills, was to force all individuals who work under that status to buy insurance. -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 5:15 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance H.. I feel an increase in the use of the 1099 form would be the easy answer. I lived as a 1099 for many years. I'm with you on your feelings of get all the way in or get all the way out. I'd prefer they get all the way in and just do it because, honestly, it will happen in the end anyhow. Why put it off and cause more suffering? I know, politics doesn't belong here usually and I won't be hit like that but it is an issue for some of us. (And as far as I'm concerned they can give gays marriage also and just get it the heck out of the way finally, sheeesh! Why should I be the only one to suffer through marriage???) But the reality is that many companies are going to go to making who they can a 1099 contractor and that's going to open up another can of left in the sun worms. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] health insurance Hi, What are everyone else's plans if this new health insurance plan gets passed in Congress? We fall in the 25-100 employee category, so they are estimating our health insurance costs would go up $412 per employee for us (we already cover 100% of the costs for our employees). So, basically this would force us to go to a subcontractor type work-force (at least for 5-10 of our current employees) to get us under the 25 employee limit and offer less benefits for everyone in the company. Once again, it seems our government is stepping in where it doesn't belong. Either take over the health care system 100% (including funding it), or leave it alone. Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today!
Re: [WISPA] health insurance
Yeah, we did that with a $3000 per person deductible program a couple of years ago. But with three kids in sports and all of us riding dirt bikes it didn't work out very well for us. grin Wouldn't you know that that's the first time we'd ever had two MRI's in the same year! sigh We'll likely go to a high deductible plan again after the kids are out of school. Insurance is always an odds against ya kind of service. marlon - Original Message - From: Kevin Neal ke...@safelink.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 10:32 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance Call me cheap I guess. I have a $229/mo plan for my family of 4 (5 in a week or so). $7500 deductible. Next year my rate will drop, after the insurance company re-rates their HSA rates I'll be moving to the $10,000 deductible plan, that will be an absolutely no benefits until 10k is paid. I don't mind it, I'd rather not have to pay the extra per month. Just a quick comparison, if I pay $229/mo vs $650/mo, if I max my deductible for the year I pay $1698 more than Marlon, but if I only hit $750, I saved $5052. I'd rather put money in the bank and have it work for me than giving it to an insurance company. -Kevin On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: Here in Wa. it's $650ish for me and the three kids. $750 deductable per person. The wife's is covered by her work. No dental and a crappy vision plan. What we are missing is competition in the medical industry. It's got TOO much government interference and no lawsuit protection. marlon - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net To: fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 8:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance A... now we know it's Florida that is causing everyone else's insurance rates to go up... :) We pay about $700/month to cover an entire family (this is just health insurance, the dental and vision is extra). Travis Microserv Faisal Imtiaz wrote: As a business owner, in Florida, where the Health Insurance is one of the highest in the US, we have seeing 15-20% increses every year for the last few years. It is nice to see that you offer 100% health insurance coverage for all of your Employees, where the company is picking up the Tab for the Insurance Premiums. Simply for the sake of my understanding, why would you choose to force us to go to a subcontractor type work-force (at least for 5-10 of our current employees) to get us under the 25 employee limit and . offer less benefits for everyone in the company At the end of the day, $412 / employee is not a whole lot of money, especially when you are talking about a benfit like Health Insurance... If you are looking to have some means of off-setting the additional $$$, would'nt it me easier and better for everyone if you reduced your Company provided 100% coverage to let's say 90%, and have the Employee pay the other 10% ? What are your current costs for Health Insurnace ? We are seeing typically $300-$400 / month for a single male, and $1300-$1450 /month for a family From what we have been seeing in the last few years, including our present coverage increase (approx $8100/year for 3 families)... $412 /year increase would be a Blessing and a Christmas present... --- Just a thought. Faisal Imtiaz Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] health insurance Hi, What are everyone else's plans if this new health insurance plan gets passed in Congress? We fall in the 25-100 employee category, so they are estimating our health insurance costs would go up $412 per employee for us (we already cover 100% of the costs for our employees). So, basically this would force us to go to a subcontractor type work-force (at least for 5-10 of our current employees) to get us under the 25 employee limit and offer less benefits for everyone in the company. Once again, it seems our government is stepping in where it doesn't belong. Either take over the health care system 100% (including funding it), or leave it alone. Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA
Re: [WISPA] health insurance
Hello, I worked on a programming project for one of the guys that started WedMD years back. He was starting another company that worked with the insurance flow of paper work. He said several times that 70% to 80% of the insurance premiums we pay go to the middle man and not to pay for the doctors services. My wife is from South Africa where they have a public health care system. One of the fastest growing industries is private healthcare. If you want better service or do not want to wait in huge lines or want to go to the newest hospitals you pay extra to visit the private services. Thanks -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 10:22 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance Yes, we in South Florida have some of the highest insurance rates (all types of insurance). There are many reasons, non of them that make a great deal of sense to me, but I have heard all kinds of excuses... The original point was, Health Care Insurance is a necessity. Health Care Insurance should be a vital benefit, provided by an Employer whenever possible. Health Care Insurance is expensive So, How do you set up this benefit so that it makes sense for all (Employer and Employee). There are a number of very effective ways to do this, rather than the drastic options to convert Employees to Contractors... BTW, if you Talk to you Accountant, they will also tell you that simply paying someone on a 1099 as a Contractor, does not make them a contract employee There are other 'litmus' tests used to determine the exact status, in-case someone challenges the status quo. Faisal Imtiaz Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:06 PM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance A... now we know it's Florida that is causing everyone else's insurance rates to go up... :) We pay about $700/month to cover an entire family (this is just health insurance, the dental and vision is extra). Travis Microserv Faisal Imtiaz wrote: As a business owner, in Florida, where the Health Insurance is one of the highest in the US, we have seeing 15-20% increses every year for the last few years. It is nice to see that you offer 100% health insurance coverage for all of your Employees, where the company is picking up the Tab for the Insurance Premiums. Simply for the sake of my understanding, why would you choose to force us to go to a subcontractor type work-force (at least for 5-10 of our current employees) to get us under the 25 employee limit and . offer less benefits for everyone in the company At the end of the day, $412 / employee is not a whole lot of money, especially when you are talking about a benfit like Health Insurance... If you are looking to have some means of off-setting the additional $$$, would'nt it me easier and better for everyone if you reduced your Company provided 100% coverage to let's say 90%, and have the Employee pay the other 10% ? What are your current costs for Health Insurnace ? We are seeing typically $300-$400 / month for a single male, and $1300-$1450 /month for a family From what we have been seeing in the last few years, including our present coverage increase (approx $8100/year for 3 families)... $412 /year increase would be a Blessing and a Christmas present... --- Just a thought. Faisal Imtiaz Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 7:50 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] health insurance Hi, What are everyone else's plans if this new health insurance plan gets passed in Congress? We fall in the 25-100 employee category, so they are estimating our health insurance costs would go up $412 per employee for us (we already cover 100% of the costs for our employees). So, basically this would force us to go to a subcontractor type work-force (at least for 5-10 of our current employees) to get us under the 25 employee limit and offer less benefits for everyone in the company. Once again, it seems our government is stepping in where it doesn't belong. Either take over the health care system 100% (including funding it), or leave it alone. Travis Microserv -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA
Re: [WISPA] Bugs Install Issues - Internet Monitor
How's this going? Dennis has one available for sale at a discounted price until tomorrow. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Larry Yunker leyun...@wispadvantage.com Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 10:29 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org; w...@part-15.org Subject: [WISPA] Bugs Install Issues - Internet Monitor So that we don't clog up the list with bug reports and installation issues, I'm going to request that everyone send email me [offlist] if they need support in setting up the Internet Monitor software or if they have found any bugs in the software. I DO appreciate the interest in the software package and I'll be glad to work with as many of you as time allows. I really am anxious to work through these initial bugs and get a stable product out to the ISP community ASAP. I'll add a link to the distribution web site listing all known issues and bugs regarding the software so that people can track how and when issues have been resolved. BTW, I still encourage on-list discussion regarding future features that you would like to see added to the software. I'm not trying to stifle useful discussion here, I'm just suggesting that support requests and bug reports go offlist to a more appropriate forum. Thanks, Larry Yunker Network Consultant larry.yun...@wispadvantage.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] www.google.com
OK, 3 times in the past week that I've noticed I could not get to www.google.com via the web, nor ping it, and DNS could not resolve it. I COULD ping and resolve google.com. I tried changing my DNS to OpenDNS and Public DNS (4.2.2.1) but had the same results. M firewall is an RB450G running 4.3. Is anyone out there having this issue? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] www.google.com
I am having the same issue. We have a thread on Butch's MT list but it is just discussion. On 12/6/09, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: OK, 3 times in the past week that I've noticed I could not get to www.google.com via the web, nor ping it, and DNS could not resolve it. I COULD ping and resolve google.com. I tried changing my DNS to OpenDNS and Public DNS (4.2.2.1) but had the same results. M firewall is an RB450G running 4.3. Is anyone out there having this issue? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] www.google.com
But a quick fix is to flush your MT DNS then your PC. Should have mention that before, sorry. On 12/6/09, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: OK, 3 times in the past week that I've noticed I could not get to www.google.com via the web, nor ping it, and DNS could not resolve it. I COULD ping and resolve google.com. I tried changing my DNS to OpenDNS and Public DNS (4.2.2.1) but had the same results. M firewall is an RB450G running 4.3. Is anyone out there having this issue? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] health insurance
My wife is from South Africa where they have a public health care system. One of the fastest growing industries is private healthcare. If you want better service or do not want to wait in huge lines or want to go to the newest hospitals you pay extra to visit the private services. That sounds awesome.. Now. where do I get BASIC health care? Cause I am tired of being terrified that BASIC health care will put me in the poor-house. I volunteer as a firefighter/paramedic.. I am tired of patients (sometimes in horrific car accidents) that ask me to NOT take them to the hospital because they cannot afford it. Imagine looking down on someone that you just extracted from a car wreck and have strapped to a backboard begging you to let them up and let them out because of the financial burden of going to the hospital. I am more than happy to pay for extra medical services. Whatever those may be.. Heck, I can even buy more insurance if I need to. I buy extra insurance riders for my car to cover me when I am driving on private forest-lands on top of the mandatory insurance needed for my vehicle. Why are we not having a discussion regarding required insurance for vehicles? Aren't you just as p-o-ed that you are required to pay that extra tax to drive your car? Again.. need more sleep, less coffee.. Sorry to rant so much... ryan On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Nathan Stooke nstooke...@wisperisp.comwrote: Hello, I worked on a programming project for one of the guys that started WedMD years back. He was starting another company that worked with the insurance flow of paper work. He said several times that 70% to 80% of the insurance premiums we pay go to the middle man and not to pay for the doctors services. My wife is from South Africa where they have a public health care system. One of the fastest growing industries is private healthcare. If you want better service or do not want to wait in huge lines or want to go to the newest hospitals you pay extra to visit the private services. Thanks -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 10:22 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance Yes, we in South Florida have some of the highest insurance rates (all types of insurance). There are many reasons, non of them that make a great deal of sense to me, but I have heard all kinds of excuses... The original point was, Health Care Insurance is a necessity. Health Care Insurance should be a vital benefit, provided by an Employer whenever possible. Health Care Insurance is expensive So, How do you set up this benefit so that it makes sense for all (Employer and Employee). There are a number of very effective ways to do this, rather than the drastic options to convert Employees to Contractors... BTW, if you Talk to you Accountant, they will also tell you that simply paying someone on a 1099 as a Contractor, does not make them a contract employee There are other 'litmus' tests used to determine the exact status, in-case someone challenges the status quo. Faisal Imtiaz Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:06 PM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance A... now we know it's Florida that is causing everyone else's insurance rates to go up... :) We pay about $700/month to cover an entire family (this is just health insurance, the dental and vision is extra). Travis Microserv Faisal Imtiaz wrote: As a business owner, in Florida, where the Health Insurance is one of the highest in the US, we have seeing 15-20% increses every year for the last few years. It is nice to see that you offer 100% health insurance coverage for all of your Employees, where the company is picking up the Tab for the Insurance Premiums. Simply for the sake of my understanding, why would you choose to force us to go to a subcontractor type work-force (at least for 5-10 of our current employees) to get us under the 25 employee limit and . offer less benefits for everyone in the company At the end of the day, $412 / employee is not a whole lot of money, especially when you are talking about a benfit like Health Insurance... If you are looking to have some means of off-setting the additional $$$, would'nt it me easier and better for everyone if you reduced your Company provided 100% coverage to let's say 90%, and have the Employee pay the other 10% ? What are your current costs for Health Insurnace ? We are seeing typically $300-$400 / month for a single male, and $1300-$1450 /month for a family From what we
Re: [WISPA] www.google.com
Ya, I think I mentioned it there already. I figured it may not be a Mikrotik problem so wanted to post here too. -RickG On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: I am having the same issue. We have a thread on Butch's MT list but it is just discussion. On 12/6/09, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: OK, 3 times in the past week that I've noticed I could not get to www.google.com via the web, nor ping it, and DNS could not resolve it. I COULD ping and resolve google.com. I tried changing my DNS to OpenDNS and Public DNS (4.2.2.1) but had the same results. M firewall is an RB450G running 4.3. Is anyone out there having this issue? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] www.google.com
I'm quite confident it's MT. Introduced in 4.0. On 12/6/09, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Ya, I think I mentioned it there already. I figured it may not be a Mikrotik problem so wanted to post here too. -RickG On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: I am having the same issue. We have a thread on Butch's MT list but it is just discussion. On 12/6/09, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: OK, 3 times in the past week that I've noticed I could not get to www.google.com via the web, nor ping it, and DNS could not resolve it. I COULD ping and resolve google.com. I tried changing my DNS to OpenDNS and Public DNS (4.2.2.1) but had the same results. M firewall is an RB450G running 4.3. Is anyone out there having this issue? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] www.google.com
Thanks Josh! I figured that out too but it didnt come back quickly but rather took a few mnutes. So I thought maybe it was coincidence and there is some other issue. The interesting part is that I changed my DNS settings on my PC so wouldnt that bypass any Mikrotik issues? -RickG On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: But a quick fix is to flush your MT DNS then your PC. Should have mention that before, sorry. On 12/6/09, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: OK, 3 times in the past week that I've noticed I could not get to www.google.com via the web, nor ping it, and DNS could not resolve it. I COULD ping and resolve google.com. I tried changing my DNS to OpenDNS and Public DNS (4.2.2.1) but had the same results. M firewall is an RB450G running 4.3. Is anyone out there having this issue? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] www.google.com
Seeing the same thing. Flushing the cache seems to fix it for a while. Looks like it's been a bug for a little while: http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=2t=35891 I'm going to try the script mentioned to flush the cache every 15 minutes. On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:57 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Josh! I figured that out too but it didnt come back quickly but rather took a few mnutes. So I thought maybe it was coincidence and there is some other issue. The interesting part is that I changed my DNS settings on my PC so wouldnt that bypass any Mikrotik issues? -RickG On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: But a quick fix is to flush your MT DNS then your PC.  Should have mention that before, sorry. On 12/6/09, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: OK, 3 times in the past week that I've noticed I could not get to www.google.com via the web, nor ping it, and DNS could not resolve it. I COULD ping and resolve google.com. I tried changing my DNS to OpenDNS and Public DNS (4.2.2.1) but had the same results. M firewall is an RB450G running  4.3. Is anyone out there having this issue? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] www.google.com
Actually, I just noticed in MT that you can set the cache-max-ttl. So, I set it to 15 minutes. On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:11 PM, can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net wrote: Seeing the same thing.  Flushing the cache seems to fix it for a while.  Looks like it's been a bug for a little while: http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=2t=35891 I'm going to try the script mentioned to flush the cache every 15 minutes. On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:57 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Josh! I figured that out too but it didnt come back quickly but rather took a few mnutes. So I thought maybe it was coincidence and there is some other issue. The interesting part is that I changed my DNS settings on my PC so wouldnt that bypass any Mikrotik issues? -RickG On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: But a quick fix is to flush your MT DNS then your PC.  Should have mention that before, sorry. On 12/6/09, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: OK, 3 times in the past week that I've noticed I could not get to www.google.com via the web, nor ping it, and DNS could not resolve it. I COULD ping and resolve google.com. I tried changing my DNS to OpenDNS and Public DNS (4.2.2.1) but had the same results. M firewall is an RB450G running  4.3. Is anyone out there having this issue? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] health insurance
I was against mandatory insurance on vehicles but for reasons of liberty and not that it's an extra tax. Either way I'd have insurance on my vehicles. I would agree that the cost is too high which is for the same reasons our health care is so high. I too have been one of those people that begged not to send me to the hospital because I couldnt afford it. I still ended up there, I still paid several thousand dollars, and thats the way it was. I had absolutely the best care I could ever ask for and I'm still here live kickin for it. Just a lot less savings in the bank. And I still dont want any government plan or their help in any way. What I'm p-o-ed about is why it costs so much. For example, $8 for 2 asperin! As a wise old friend of mine used to say follow the dollar. Thats what needs to be fixed. Then our health care policies will go down but not until the waste is corrected. -RickG On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote: My wife is from South Africa where they have a public health care system. One of the fastest growing industries is private healthcare. If you want better service or do not want to wait in huge lines or want to go to the newest hospitals you pay extra to visit the private services. That sounds awesome.. Now. where do I get BASIC health care? Cause I am tired of being terrified that BASIC health care will put me in the poor-house. I volunteer as a firefighter/paramedic.. I am tired of patients (sometimes in horrific car accidents) that ask me to NOT take them to the hospital because they cannot afford it. Imagine looking down on someone that you just extracted from a car wreck and have strapped to a backboard begging you to let them up and let them out because of the financial burden of going to the hospital. I am more than happy to pay for extra medical services. Whatever those may be.. Heck, I can even buy more insurance if I need to. I buy extra insurance riders for my car to cover me when I am driving on private forest-lands on top of the mandatory insurance needed for my vehicle. Why are we not having a discussion regarding required insurance for vehicles? Aren't you just as p-o-ed that you are required to pay that extra tax to drive your car? Again.. need more sleep, less coffee.. Sorry to rant so much... ryan On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Nathan Stooke nstooke...@wisperisp.com wrote: Hello, I worked on a programming project for one of the guys that started WedMD years back. He was starting another company that worked with the insurance flow of paper work. He said several times that 70% to 80% of the insurance premiums we pay go to the middle man and not to pay for the doctors services. My wife is from South Africa where they have a public health care system. One of the fastest growing industries is private healthcare. If you want better service or do not want to wait in huge lines or want to go to the newest hospitals you pay extra to visit the private services. Thanks -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 10:22 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance Yes, we in South Florida have some of the highest insurance rates (all types of insurance). There are many reasons, non of them that make a great deal of sense to me, but I have heard all kinds of excuses... The original point was, Health Care Insurance is a necessity. Health Care Insurance should be a vital benefit, provided by an Employer whenever possible. Health Care Insurance is expensive So, How do you set up this benefit so that it makes sense for all (Employer and Employee). There are a number of very effective ways to do this, rather than the drastic options to convert Employees to Contractors... BTW, if you Talk to you Accountant, they will also tell you that simply paying someone on a 1099 as a Contractor, does not make them a contract employee There are other 'litmus' tests used to determine the exact status, in-case someone challenges the status quo. Faisal Imtiaz Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:06 PM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance A... now we know it's Florida that is causing everyone else's insurance rates to go up... :) We pay about $700/month to cover an entire family (this is just health insurance, the dental and vision is extra). Travis Microserv Faisal Imtiaz wrote: As a business owner, in Florida, where the Health Insurance is one of the highest in the US, we
Re: [WISPA] www.google.com
Some people think it has to do with the max UDP packet size so I increased mine to 768. Now... only time will tell. On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:13 PM, can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net wrote: Actually, I just noticed in MT that you can set the cache-max-ttl. So, I set it to 15 minutes. On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:11 PM, can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net wrote: Seeing the same thing.  Flushing the cache seems to fix it for a while.  Looks like it's been a bug for a little while: http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=2t=35891 I'm going to try the script mentioned to flush the cache every 15 minutes. On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:57 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Josh! I figured that out too but it didnt come back quickly but rather took a few mnutes. So I thought maybe it was coincidence and there is some other issue. The interesting part is that I changed my DNS settings on my PC so wouldnt that bypass any Mikrotik issues? -RickG On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: But a quick fix is to flush your MT DNS then your PC.  Should have mention that before, sorry. On 12/6/09, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: OK, 3 times in the past week that I've noticed I could not get to www.google.com via the web, nor ping it, and DNS could not resolve it. I COULD ping and resolve google.com. I tried changing my DNS to OpenDNS and Public DNS (4.2.2.1) but had the same results. M firewall is an RB450G running  4.3. Is anyone out there having this issue? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] health insurance
The auto insurance vs. health insurance comparison is a flawed argument. The government doesn't force you to buy auto insurance if you don't need it. The government won't fine you and ultimately put you in jail for not buying auto insurance from them if you don't need it. Our government is proposing law that will enable them to fine and ultimately put you in jail for not buying health insurance from them. They are taking your freedom of choice away from you and forcing you to buy something from them at a price they see fit and with a level of service they see fit. Big difference. Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Spott Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 9:50 PM To: nsto...@wisperisp.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance My wife is from South Africa where they have a public health care system. One of the fastest growing industries is private healthcare. If you want better service or do not want to wait in huge lines or want to go to the newest hospitals you pay extra to visit the private services. That sounds awesome.. Now. where do I get BASIC health care? Cause I am tired of being terrified that BASIC health care will put me in the poor-house. I volunteer as a firefighter/paramedic.. I am tired of patients (sometimes in horrific car accidents) that ask me to NOT take them to the hospital because they cannot afford it. Imagine looking down on someone that you just extracted from a car wreck and have strapped to a backboard begging you to let them up and let them out because of the financial burden of going to the hospital. I am more than happy to pay for extra medical services. Whatever those may be.. Heck, I can even buy more insurance if I need to. I buy extra insurance riders for my car to cover me when I am driving on private forest-lands on top of the mandatory insurance needed for my vehicle. Why are we not having a discussion regarding required insurance for vehicles? Aren't you just as p-o-ed that you are required to pay that extra tax to drive your car? Again.. need more sleep, less coffee.. Sorry to rant so much... ryan On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Nathan Stooke nstooke...@wisperisp.comwrote: Hello, I worked on a programming project for one of the guys that started WedMD years back. He was starting another company that worked with the insurance flow of paper work. He said several times that 70% to 80% of the insurance premiums we pay go to the middle man and not to pay for the doctors services. My wife is from South Africa where they have a public health care system. One of the fastest growing industries is private healthcare. If you want better service or do not want to wait in huge lines or want to go to the newest hospitals you pay extra to visit the private services. Thanks -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 10:22 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance Yes, we in South Florida have some of the highest insurance rates (all types of insurance). There are many reasons, non of them that make a great deal of sense to me, but I have heard all kinds of excuses... The original point was, Health Care Insurance is a necessity. Health Care Insurance should be a vital benefit, provided by an Employer whenever possible. Health Care Insurance is expensive So, How do you set up this benefit so that it makes sense for all (Employer and Employee). There are a number of very effective ways to do this, rather than the drastic options to convert Employees to Contractors... BTW, if you Talk to you Accountant, they will also tell you that simply paying someone on a 1099 as a Contractor, does not make them a contract employee There are other 'litmus' tests used to determine the exact status, in-case someone challenges the status quo. Faisal Imtiaz Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:06 PM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance A... now we know it's Florida that is causing everyone else's insurance rates to go up... :) We pay about $700/month to cover an entire family (this is just health insurance, the dental and vision is extra). Travis Microserv Faisal Imtiaz wrote: As a business owner, in Florida, where the Health Insurance is one of the highest in the US, we have seeing 15-20% increses every year for the last few years. It is nice to see that you offer 100% health insurance coverage for all of your Employees, where the company is picking up the Tab for the Insurance
Re: [WISPA] www.google.com
Where is that at? On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:13 PM, can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net wrote: Actually, I just noticed in MT that you can set the cache-max-ttl. So, I set it to 15 minutes. On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:11 PM, can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net wrote: Seeing the same thing. Flushing the cache seems to fix it for a while. Looks like it's been a bug for a little while: http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=2t=35891 I'm going to try the script mentioned to flush the cache every 15 minutes. On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:57 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Josh! I figured that out too but it didnt come back quickly but rather took a few mnutes. So I thought maybe it was coincidence and there is some other issue. The interesting part is that I changed my DNS settings on my PC so wouldnt that bypass any Mikrotik issues? -RickG On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: But a quick fix is to flush your MT DNS then your PC. Should have mention that before, sorry. On 12/6/09, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: OK, 3 times in the past week that I've noticed I could not get to www.google.com via the web, nor ping it, and DNS could not resolve it. I COULD ping and resolve google.com. I tried changing my DNS to OpenDNS and Public DNS (4.2.2.1) but had the same results. M firewall is an RB450G running 4.3. Is anyone out there having this issue? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] health insurance
I was going to say that and completely agree :) On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:26 PM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: The auto insurance vs. health insurance comparison is a flawed argument. The government doesn't force you to buy auto insurance if you don't need it. The government won't fine you and ultimately put you in jail for not buying auto insurance from them if you don't need it. Our government is proposing law that will enable them to fine and ultimately put you in jail for not buying health insurance from them. They are taking your freedom of choice away from you and forcing you to buy something from them at a price they see fit and with a level of service they see fit. Big difference. Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Spott Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 9:50 PM To: nsto...@wisperisp.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance My wife is from South Africa where they have a public health care system. One of the fastest growing industries is private healthcare. If you want better service or do not want to wait in huge lines or want to go to the newest hospitals you pay extra to visit the private services. That sounds awesome.. Now. where do I get BASIC health care? Cause I am tired of being terrified that BASIC health care will put me in the poor-house. I volunteer as a firefighter/paramedic.. I am tired of patients (sometimes in horrific car accidents) that ask me to NOT take them to the hospital because they cannot afford it. Imagine looking down on someone that you just extracted from a car wreck and have strapped to a backboard begging you to let them up and let them out because of the financial burden of going to the hospital. I am more than happy to pay for extra medical services. Whatever those may be.. Heck, I can even buy more insurance if I need to. I buy extra insurance riders for my car to cover me when I am driving on private forest-lands on top of the mandatory insurance needed for my vehicle. Why are we not having a discussion regarding required insurance for vehicles? Aren't you just as p-o-ed that you are required to pay that extra tax to drive your car? Again.. need more sleep, less coffee.. Sorry to rant so much... ryan On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Nathan Stooke nstooke...@wisperisp.comwrote: Hello, I worked on a programming project for one of the guys that started WedMD years back. He was starting another company that worked with the insurance flow of paper work. He said several times that 70% to 80% of the insurance premiums we pay go to the middle man and not to pay for the doctors services. My wife is from South Africa where they have a public health care system. One of the fastest growing industries is private healthcare. If you want better service or do not want to wait in huge lines or want to go to the newest hospitals you pay extra to visit the private services. Thanks -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 10:22 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance Yes, we in South Florida have some of the highest insurance rates (all types of insurance). There are many reasons, non of them that make a great deal of sense to me, but I have heard all kinds of excuses... The original point was, Health Care Insurance is a necessity. Health Care Insurance should be a vital benefit, provided by an Employer whenever possible. Health Care Insurance is expensive So, How do you set up this benefit so that it makes sense for all (Employer and Employee). There are a number of very effective ways to do this, rather than the drastic options to convert Employees to Contractors... BTW, if you Talk to you Accountant, they will also tell you that simply paying someone on a 1099 as a Contractor, does not make them a contract employee There are other 'litmus' tests used to determine the exact status, in-case someone challenges the status quo. Faisal Imtiaz Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:06 PM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance A... now we know it's Florida that is causing everyone else's insurance rates to go up... :) We pay about $700/month to cover an entire family (this is just health insurance, the dental and vision is extra). Travis Microserv Faisal Imtiaz wrote: As a business owner, in Florida, where the Health Insurance is one of the highest in the
Re: [WISPA] www.google.com
Same here. I'll report back if it happens again. Thx! On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:26 PM, can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net wrote: Some people think it has to do with the max UDP packet size so I increased mine to 768. Now... only time will tell. On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:13 PM, can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net wrote: Actually, I just noticed in MT that you can set the cache-max-ttl. So, I set it to 15 minutes. On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:11 PM, can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net wrote: Seeing the same thing. Flushing the cache seems to fix it for a while. Looks like it's been a bug for a little while: http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=2t=35891 I'm going to try the script mentioned to flush the cache every 15 minutes. On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:57 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Josh! I figured that out too but it didnt come back quickly but rather took a few mnutes. So I thought maybe it was coincidence and there is some other issue. The interesting part is that I changed my DNS settings on my PC so wouldnt that bypass any Mikrotik issues? -RickG On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: But a quick fix is to flush your MT DNS then your PC. Should have mention that before, sorry. On 12/6/09, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: OK, 3 times in the past week that I've noticed I could not get to www.google.com via the web, nor ping it, and DNS could not resolve it. I COULD ping and resolve google.com. I tried changing my DNS to OpenDNS and Public DNS (4.2.2.1) but had the same results. M firewall is an RB450G running 4.3. Is anyone out there having this issue? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] health insurance
I agree with your post pointing out the excessive waste and costs our current health system is plagued with. I believe health care reform is needed, but not by putting government in charge of it. Instead find the waste and the reason why two Advil costs $8 in a hospital. Allow for greater competition between insurance companies. Reduce the number of frivolous lawsuits. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 10:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance I was going to say that and completely agree :) On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:26 PM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: The auto insurance vs. health insurance comparison is a flawed argument. The government doesn't force you to buy auto insurance if you don't need it. The government won't fine you and ultimately put you in jail for not buying auto insurance from them if you don't need it. Our government is proposing law that will enable them to fine and ultimately put you in jail for not buying health insurance from them. They are taking your freedom of choice away from you and forcing you to buy something from them at a price they see fit and with a level of service they see fit. Big difference. Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Spott Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 9:50 PM To: nsto...@wisperisp.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance My wife is from South Africa where they have a public health care system. One of the fastest growing industries is private healthcare. If you want better service or do not want to wait in huge lines or want to go to the newest hospitals you pay extra to visit the private services. That sounds awesome.. Now. where do I get BASIC health care? Cause I am tired of being terrified that BASIC health care will put me in the poor-house. I volunteer as a firefighter/paramedic.. I am tired of patients (sometimes in horrific car accidents) that ask me to NOT take them to the hospital because they cannot afford it. Imagine looking down on someone that you just extracted from a car wreck and have strapped to a backboard begging you to let them up and let them out because of the financial burden of going to the hospital. I am more than happy to pay for extra medical services. Whatever those may be.. Heck, I can even buy more insurance if I need to. I buy extra insurance riders for my car to cover me when I am driving on private forest-lands on top of the mandatory insurance needed for my vehicle. Why are we not having a discussion regarding required insurance for vehicles? Aren't you just as p-o-ed that you are required to pay that extra tax to drive your car? Again.. need more sleep, less coffee.. Sorry to rant so much... ryan On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Nathan Stooke nstooke...@wisperisp.comwrote: Hello, I worked on a programming project for one of the guys that started WedMD years back. He was starting another company that worked with the insurance flow of paper work. He said several times that 70% to 80% of the insurance premiums we pay go to the middle man and not to pay for the doctors services. My wife is from South Africa where they have a public health care system. One of the fastest growing industries is private healthcare. If you want better service or do not want to wait in huge lines or want to go to the newest hospitals you pay extra to visit the private services. Thanks -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 10:22 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance Yes, we in South Florida have some of the highest insurance rates (all types of insurance). There are many reasons, non of them that make a great deal of sense to me, but I have heard all kinds of excuses... The original point was, Health Care Insurance is a necessity. Health Care Insurance should be a vital benefit, provided by an Employer whenever possible. Health Care Insurance is expensive So, How do you set up this benefit so that it makes sense for all (Employer and Employee). There are a number of very effective ways to do this, rather than the drastic options to convert Employees to Contractors... BTW, if you Talk to you Accountant, they will also tell you that simply paying someone on a 1099 as a Contractor, does not make them a contract employee There are other 'litmus' tests used to determine the exact status, in-case someone challenges the status quo. Faisal Imtiaz Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 -Original
Re: [WISPA] health insurance
I have the utmost respect for our first responders and volunteers like Ryan, but even the best of intentions can result in extreme waste and undue cost. Here is a local story I stumbled across the other day. Larry happens to be someone I know and a WISP. While his care flight experience was bad it wasn't as bad as the poor guy with a sore throat! http://www.star-telegram.com/news/story/1809462.html Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Spott Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 9:50 PM To: nsto...@wisperisp.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance My wife is from South Africa where they have a public health care system. One of the fastest growing industries is private healthcare. If you want better service or do not want to wait in huge lines or want to go to the newest hospitals you pay extra to visit the private services. That sounds awesome.. Now. where do I get BASIC health care? Cause I am tired of being terrified that BASIC health care will put me in the poor-house. I volunteer as a firefighter/paramedic.. I am tired of patients (sometimes in horrific car accidents) that ask me to NOT take them to the hospital because they cannot afford it. Imagine looking down on someone that you just extracted from a car wreck and have strapped to a backboard begging you to let them up and let them out because of the financial burden of going to the hospital. I am more than happy to pay for extra medical services. Whatever those may be.. Heck, I can even buy more insurance if I need to. I buy extra insurance riders for my car to cover me when I am driving on private forest-lands on top of the mandatory insurance needed for my vehicle. Why are we not having a discussion regarding required insurance for vehicles? Aren't you just as p-o-ed that you are required to pay that extra tax to drive your car? Again.. need more sleep, less coffee.. Sorry to rant so much... ryan On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Nathan Stooke nstooke...@wisperisp.comwrote: Hello, I worked on a programming project for one of the guys that started WedMD years back. He was starting another company that worked with the insurance flow of paper work. He said several times that 70% to 80% of the insurance premiums we pay go to the middle man and not to pay for the doctors services. My wife is from South Africa where they have a public health care system. One of the fastest growing industries is private healthcare. If you want better service or do not want to wait in huge lines or want to go to the newest hospitals you pay extra to visit the private services. Thanks -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 10:22 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance Yes, we in South Florida have some of the highest insurance rates (all types of insurance). There are many reasons, non of them that make a great deal of sense to me, but I have heard all kinds of excuses... The original point was, Health Care Insurance is a necessity. Health Care Insurance should be a vital benefit, provided by an Employer whenever possible. Health Care Insurance is expensive So, How do you set up this benefit so that it makes sense for all (Employer and Employee). There are a number of very effective ways to do this, rather than the drastic options to convert Employees to Contractors... BTW, if you Talk to you Accountant, they will also tell you that simply paying someone on a 1099 as a Contractor, does not make them a contract employee There are other 'litmus' tests used to determine the exact status, in-case someone challenges the status quo. Faisal Imtiaz Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:06 PM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance A... now we know it's Florida that is causing everyone else's insurance rates to go up... :) We pay about $700/month to cover an entire family (this is just health insurance, the dental and vision is extra). Travis Microserv Faisal Imtiaz wrote: As a business owner, in Florida, where the Health Insurance is one of the highest in the US, we have seeing 15-20% increses every year for the last few years. It is nice to see that you offer 100% health insurance coverage for all of your Employees, where the company is picking up the Tab for the Insurance Premiums. Simply for the sake of my understanding, why would you choose to force us to go to a subcontractor type work-force (at least for 5-10 of our current employees)
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Correcting the waste is the exact opposite of what a government funded program will do. Honestly, I don't pay too much attention to the news anymore because is gets me too po'ed. Can someone answer a couple basic question I have about this: 1. If the high cost of health care insurance is being caused by the insurance company executives raking in loads of money, why hasn't free enterprises created competition. If all the insurance company A is averaging a profit of $100 billion/year, wouldn't free enterprise generate a competitor that decided to charge 25% lower premiums and still make a great $75 billion/year? 2. I keep hearing that the idea of a federal government sponsored health care insurance program is to create competition in the insurance industry. How can tax dollar funded anything be considered true competition to free enterprises in any industry? Paul C Diem pcd...@foxvalley.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 10:19 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance I was against mandatory insurance on vehicles but for reasons of liberty and not that it's an extra tax. Either way I'd have insurance on my vehicles. I would agree that the cost is too high which is for the same reasons our health care is so high. I too have been one of those people that begged not to send me to the hospital because I couldnt afford it. I still ended up there, I still paid several thousand dollars, and thats the way it was. I had absolutely the best care I could ever ask for and I'm still here live kickin for it. Just a lot less savings in the bank. And I still dont want any government plan or their help in any way. What I'm p-o-ed about is why it costs so much. For example, $8 for 2 asperin! As a wise old friend of mine used to say follow the dollar. Thats what needs to be fixed. Then our health care policies will go down but not until the waste is corrected. -RickG On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote: My wife is from South Africa where they have a public health care system. One of the fastest growing industries is private healthcare. If you want better service or do not want to wait in huge lines or want to go to the newest hospitals you pay extra to visit the private services. That sounds awesome.. Now. where do I get BASIC health care? Cause I am tired of being terrified that BASIC health care will put me in the poor-house. I volunteer as a firefighter/paramedic.. I am tired of patients (sometimes in horrific car accidents) that ask me to NOT take them to the hospital because they cannot afford it. Imagine looking down on someone that you just extracted from a car wreck and have strapped to a backboard begging you to let them up and let them out because of the financial burden of going to the hospital. I am more than happy to pay for extra medical services. Whatever those may be.. Heck, I can even buy more insurance if I need to. I buy extra insurance riders for my car to cover me when I am driving on private forest-lands on top of the mandatory insurance needed for my vehicle. Why are we not having a discussion regarding required insurance for vehicles? Aren't you just as p-o-ed that you are required to pay that extra tax to drive your car? Again.. need more sleep, less coffee.. Sorry to rant so much... ryan On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Nathan Stooke nstooke...@wisperisp.com wrote: Hello, I worked on a programming project for one of the guys that started WedMD years back. He was starting another company that worked with the insurance flow of paper work. He said several times that 70% to 80% of the insurance premiums we pay go to the middle man and not to pay for the doctors services. My wife is from South Africa where they have a public health care system. One of the fastest growing industries is private healthcare. If you want better service or do not want to wait in huge lines or want to go to the newest hospitals you pay extra to visit the private services. Thanks -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 10:22 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance Yes, we in South Florida have some of the highest insurance rates (all types of insurance). There are many reasons, non of them that make a great deal of sense to me, but I have heard all kinds of excuses... The original point was, Health Care Insurance is a necessity. Health Care Insurance should be a vital benefit, provided by an Employer whenever possible. Health Care Insurance is expensive So, How do you set up this benefit so that it makes sense for all (Employer and
Re: [WISPA] health insurance
And then there is this: http://www.findingdulcinea.com/news/health/2009/april/9-Patients-Account-for-Nearly-2-700-Visits-to-the-Emergency-Room--Study-Finds-.html -RickG On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:02 AM, Brad Belton b...@belwave.com wrote: I have the utmost respect for our first responders and volunteers like Ryan, but even the best of intentions can result in extreme waste and undue cost. Here is a local story I stumbled across the other day. Larry happens to be someone I know and a WISP. While his care flight experience was bad it wasn't as bad as the poor guy with a sore throat! http://www.star-telegram.com/news/story/1809462.html Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Spott Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 9:50 PM To: nsto...@wisperisp.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance My wife is from South Africa where they have a public health care system. One of the fastest growing industries is private healthcare. If you want better service or do not want to wait in huge lines or want to go to the newest hospitals you pay extra to visit the private services. That sounds awesome.. Now. where do I get BASIC health care? Cause I am tired of being terrified that BASIC health care will put me in the poor-house. I volunteer as a firefighter/paramedic.. I am tired of patients (sometimes in horrific car accidents) that ask me to NOT take them to the hospital because they cannot afford it. Imagine looking down on someone that you just extracted from a car wreck and have strapped to a backboard begging you to let them up and let them out because of the financial burden of going to the hospital. I am more than happy to pay for extra medical services. Whatever those may be.. Heck, I can even buy more insurance if I need to. I buy extra insurance riders for my car to cover me when I am driving on private forest-lands on top of the mandatory insurance needed for my vehicle. Why are we not having a discussion regarding required insurance for vehicles? Aren't you just as p-o-ed that you are required to pay that extra tax to drive your car? Again.. need more sleep, less coffee.. Sorry to rant so much... ryan On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Nathan Stooke nstooke...@wisperisp.comwrote: Hello, I worked on a programming project for one of the guys that started WedMD years back. He was starting another company that worked with the insurance flow of paper work. He said several times that 70% to 80% of the insurance premiums we pay go to the middle man and not to pay for the doctors services. My wife is from South Africa where they have a public health care system. One of the fastest growing industries is private healthcare. If you want better service or do not want to wait in huge lines or want to go to the newest hospitals you pay extra to visit the private services. Thanks -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 10:22 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance Yes, we in South Florida have some of the highest insurance rates (all types of insurance). There are many reasons, non of them that make a great deal of sense to me, but I have heard all kinds of excuses... The original point was, Health Care Insurance is a necessity. Health Care Insurance should be a vital benefit, provided by an Employer whenever possible. Health Care Insurance is expensive So, How do you set up this benefit so that it makes sense for all (Employer and Employee). There are a number of very effective ways to do this, rather than the drastic options to convert Employees to Contractors... BTW, if you Talk to you Accountant, they will also tell you that simply paying someone on a 1099 as a Contractor, does not make them a contract employee There are other 'litmus' tests used to determine the exact status, in-case someone challenges the status quo. Faisal Imtiaz Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 11:06 PM To: fai...@snappydsl.net; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance A... now we know it's Florida that is causing everyone else's insurance rates to go up... :) We pay about $700/month to cover an entire family (this is just health insurance, the dental and vision is extra). Travis Microserv Faisal Imtiaz wrote: As a business owner, in Florida, where the Health Insurance is one of the highest in the US, we have seeing 15-20% increses every year for
Re: [WISPA] health insurance
That's right - government cant be the answer. Your questions are viable. We need to speak up and many have but unfortunately either they are not listening or dont care. I've not found anyone that wants the government running health care or even an option. This includes many low wage earners I am acquainted with. So, I know where the people are who are against the bill but where are the proponents at? On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:05 AM, Paul C Diem pcd...@foxvalley.net wrote: Correcting the waste is the exact opposite of what a government funded program will do. Honestly, I don't pay too much attention to the news anymore because is gets me too po'ed. Can someone answer a couple basic question I have about this: 1. If the high cost of health care insurance is being caused by the insurance company executives raking in loads of money, why hasn't free enterprises created competition. If all the insurance company A is averaging a profit of $100 billion/year, wouldn't free enterprise generate a competitor that decided to charge 25% lower premiums and still make a great $75 billion/year? 2. I keep hearing that the idea of a federal government sponsored health care insurance program is to create competition in the insurance industry. How can tax dollar funded anything be considered true competition to free enterprises in any industry? Paul C Diem pcd...@foxvalley.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 10:19 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance I was against mandatory insurance on vehicles but for reasons of liberty and not that it's an extra tax. Either way I'd have insurance on my vehicles. I would agree that the cost is too high which is for the same reasons our health care is so high. I too have been one of those people that begged not to send me to the hospital because I couldnt afford it. I still ended up there, I still paid several thousand dollars, and thats the way it was. I had absolutely the best care I could ever ask for and I'm still here live kickin for it. Just a lot less savings in the bank. And I still dont want any government plan or their help in any way. What I'm p-o-ed about is why it costs so much. For example, $8 for 2 asperin! As a wise old friend of mine used to say follow the dollar. Thats what needs to be fixed. Then our health care policies will go down but not until the waste is corrected. -RickG On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote: My wife is from South Africa where they have a public health care system. One of the fastest growing industries is private healthcare. If you want better service or do not want to wait in huge lines or want to go to the newest hospitals you pay extra to visit the private services. That sounds awesome.. Now. where do I get BASIC health care? Cause I am tired of being terrified that BASIC health care will put me in the poor-house. I volunteer as a firefighter/paramedic.. I am tired of patients (sometimes in horrific car accidents) that ask me to NOT take them to the hospital because they cannot afford it. Imagine looking down on someone that you just extracted from a car wreck and have strapped to a backboard begging you to let them up and let them out because of the financial burden of going to the hospital. I am more than happy to pay for extra medical services. Whatever those may be.. Heck, I can even buy more insurance if I need to. I buy extra insurance riders for my car to cover me when I am driving on private forest-lands on top of the mandatory insurance needed for my vehicle. Why are we not having a discussion regarding required insurance for vehicles? Aren't you just as p-o-ed that you are required to pay that extra tax to drive your car? Again.. need more sleep, less coffee.. Sorry to rant so much... ryan On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Nathan Stooke nstooke...@wisperisp.com wrote: Hello, I worked on a programming project for one of the guys that started WedMD years back. He was starting another company that worked with the insurance flow of paper work. He said several times that 70% to 80% of the insurance premiums we pay go to the middle man and not to pay for the doctors services. My wife is from South Africa where they have a public health care system. One of the fastest growing industries is private healthcare. If you want better service or do not want to wait in huge lines or want to go to the newest hospitals you pay extra to visit the private services. Thanks -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 10:22 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject:
Re: [WISPA] health insurance
The answer to your first question is our government currently limits where insurance companies can offer their coverage. Open up the entire country to all health insurance companies and you'll see competition increase and prices decrease. This is economics 101, but our elected officials can't seem to get their arms around it...or simply choose not to. Your second question/point is correct. Creating a government option will discourage competition resulting in a single payer system. With a single payer system it is my opinion the cost will go up and the services provided will go down. Without competition I see this as the only outcome. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul C Diem Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 11:05 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance Correcting the waste is the exact opposite of what a government funded program will do. Honestly, I don't pay too much attention to the news anymore because is gets me too po'ed. Can someone answer a couple basic question I have about this: 1. If the high cost of health care insurance is being caused by the insurance company executives raking in loads of money, why hasn't free enterprises created competition. If all the insurance company A is averaging a profit of $100 billion/year, wouldn't free enterprise generate a competitor that decided to charge 25% lower premiums and still make a great $75 billion/year? 2. I keep hearing that the idea of a federal government sponsored health care insurance program is to create competition in the insurance industry. How can tax dollar funded anything be considered true competition to free enterprises in any industry? Paul C Diem pcd...@foxvalley.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 10:19 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance I was against mandatory insurance on vehicles but for reasons of liberty and not that it's an extra tax. Either way I'd have insurance on my vehicles. I would agree that the cost is too high which is for the same reasons our health care is so high. I too have been one of those people that begged not to send me to the hospital because I couldnt afford it. I still ended up there, I still paid several thousand dollars, and thats the way it was. I had absolutely the best care I could ever ask for and I'm still here live kickin for it. Just a lot less savings in the bank. And I still dont want any government plan or their help in any way. What I'm p-o-ed about is why it costs so much. For example, $8 for 2 asperin! As a wise old friend of mine used to say follow the dollar. Thats what needs to be fixed. Then our health care policies will go down but not until the waste is corrected. -RickG On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote: My wife is from South Africa where they have a public health care system. One of the fastest growing industries is private healthcare. If you want better service or do not want to wait in huge lines or want to go to the newest hospitals you pay extra to visit the private services. That sounds awesome.. Now. where do I get BASIC health care? Cause I am tired of being terrified that BASIC health care will put me in the poor-house. I volunteer as a firefighter/paramedic.. I am tired of patients (sometimes in horrific car accidents) that ask me to NOT take them to the hospital because they cannot afford it. Imagine looking down on someone that you just extracted from a car wreck and have strapped to a backboard begging you to let them up and let them out because of the financial burden of going to the hospital. I am more than happy to pay for extra medical services. Whatever those may be.. Heck, I can even buy more insurance if I need to. I buy extra insurance riders for my car to cover me when I am driving on private forest-lands on top of the mandatory insurance needed for my vehicle. Why are we not having a discussion regarding required insurance for vehicles? Aren't you just as p-o-ed that you are required to pay that extra tax to drive your car? Again.. need more sleep, less coffee.. Sorry to rant so much... ryan On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Nathan Stooke nstooke...@wisperisp.com wrote: Hello, I worked on a programming project for one of the guys that started WedMD years back. He was starting another company that worked with the insurance flow of paper work. He said several times that 70% to 80% of the insurance premiums we pay go to the middle man and not to pay for the doctors services. My wife is from South Africa where they have a public health care system. One of the fastest growing industries is private healthcare. If you want better service or do not want to wait
Re: [WISPA] health insurance
Rick, it seems like you've been mislead into thinking our government is still of the people, for the people. Paul C Diem pcd...@foxvalley.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 11:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance That's right - government cant be the answer. Your questions are viable. We need to speak up and many have but unfortunately either they are not listening or dont care. I've not found anyone that wants the government running health care or even an option. This includes many low wage earners I am acquainted with. So, I know where the people are who are against the bill but where are the proponents at? On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:05 AM, Paul C Diem pcd...@foxvalley.net wrote: Correcting the waste is the exact opposite of what a government funded program will do. Honestly, I don't pay too much attention to the news anymore because is gets me too po'ed. Can someone answer a couple basic question I have about this: 1. If the high cost of health care insurance is being caused by the insurance company executives raking in loads of money, why hasn't free enterprises created competition. If all the insurance company A is averaging a profit of $100 billion/year, wouldn't free enterprise generate a competitor that decided to charge 25% lower premiums and still make a great $75 billion/year? 2. I keep hearing that the idea of a federal government sponsored health care insurance program is to create competition in the insurance industry. How can tax dollar funded anything be considered true competition to free enterprises in any industry? Paul C Diem pcd...@foxvalley.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 10:19 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance I was against mandatory insurance on vehicles but for reasons of liberty and not that it's an extra tax. Either way I'd have insurance on my vehicles. I would agree that the cost is too high which is for the same reasons our health care is so high. I too have been one of those people that begged not to send me to the hospital because I couldnt afford it. I still ended up there, I still paid several thousand dollars, and thats the way it was. I had absolutely the best care I could ever ask for and I'm still here live kickin for it. Just a lot less savings in the bank. And I still dont want any government plan or their help in any way. What I'm p-o-ed about is why it costs so much. For example, $8 for 2 asperin! As a wise old friend of mine used to say follow the dollar. Thats what needs to be fixed. Then our health care policies will go down but not until the waste is corrected. -RickG On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote: My wife is from South Africa where they have a public health care system. One of the fastest growing industries is private healthcare. If you want better service or do not want to wait in huge lines or want to go to the newest hospitals you pay extra to visit the private services. That sounds awesome.. Now. where do I get BASIC health care? Cause I am tired of being terrified that BASIC health care will put me in the poor-house. I volunteer as a firefighter/paramedic.. I am tired of patients (sometimes in horrific car accidents) that ask me to NOT take them to the hospital because they cannot afford it. Imagine looking down on someone that you just extracted from a car wreck and have strapped to a backboard begging you to let them up and let them out because of the financial burden of going to the hospital. I am more than happy to pay for extra medical services. Whatever those may be.. Heck, I can even buy more insurance if I need to. I buy extra insurance riders for my car to cover me when I am driving on private forest-lands on top of the mandatory insurance needed for my vehicle. Why are we not having a discussion regarding required insurance for vehicles? Aren't you just as p-o-ed that you are required to pay that extra tax to drive your car? Again.. need more sleep, less coffee.. Sorry to rant so much... ryan On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Nathan Stooke nstooke...@wisperisp.com wrote: Hello, I worked on a programming project for one of the guys that started WedMD years back. He was starting another company that worked with the insurance flow of paper work. He said several times that 70% to 80% of the insurance premiums we pay go to the middle man and not to pay for the doctors services. My wife is from South Africa where they have a public health care system. One of the fastest growing industries is private
Re: [WISPA] health insurance
1. If the high cost of health care insurance is being caused by the insurance company executives raking in loads of money, why hasn't free enterprises created competition. If all the insurance company A is averaging a profit of $100 billion/year, wouldn't free enterprise generate a competitor that decided to charge 25% lower premiums and still make a great $75 billion/year? Health insurance companies are except from anti-trust laws and they carve up markets. If you try purchase a health care plan for your employees, how many different companies offer coverage in your area? So, free enterprise doesn't exist in the health care market. Tim WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] health insurance
Vote 'em out! I'm speaking of any representative regardless of party affiliation that has voted for government run health care. They clearly aren't listening to the people they represent. Look closely at the incumbent's voting record and listen to the challenger's ideas during the primaries. I know I won't be voting for very many incumbents come next year and will be looking to help put representation in place that reflects ideas and values that I agree with. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 11:18 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance That's right - government cant be the answer. Your questions are viable. We need to speak up and many have but unfortunately either they are not listening or dont care. I've not found anyone that wants the government running health care or even an option. This includes many low wage earners I am acquainted with. So, I know where the people are who are against the bill but where are the proponents at? On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:05 AM, Paul C Diem pcd...@foxvalley.net wrote: Correcting the waste is the exact opposite of what a government funded program will do. Honestly, I don't pay too much attention to the news anymore because is gets me too po'ed. Can someone answer a couple basic question I have about this: 1. If the high cost of health care insurance is being caused by the insurance company executives raking in loads of money, why hasn't free enterprises created competition. If all the insurance company A is averaging a profit of $100 billion/year, wouldn't free enterprise generate a competitor that decided to charge 25% lower premiums and still make a great $75 billion/year? 2. I keep hearing that the idea of a federal government sponsored health care insurance program is to create competition in the insurance industry. How can tax dollar funded anything be considered true competition to free enterprises in any industry? Paul C Diem pcd...@foxvalley.net -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 10:19 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] health insurance I was against mandatory insurance on vehicles but for reasons of liberty and not that it's an extra tax. Either way I'd have insurance on my vehicles. I would agree that the cost is too high which is for the same reasons our health care is so high. I too have been one of those people that begged not to send me to the hospital because I couldnt afford it. I still ended up there, I still paid several thousand dollars, and thats the way it was. I had absolutely the best care I could ever ask for and I'm still here live kickin for it. Just a lot less savings in the bank. And I still dont want any government plan or their help in any way. What I'm p-o-ed about is why it costs so much. For example, $8 for 2 asperin! As a wise old friend of mine used to say follow the dollar. Thats what needs to be fixed. Then our health care policies will go down but not until the waste is corrected. -RickG On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote: My wife is from South Africa where they have a public health care system. One of the fastest growing industries is private healthcare. If you want better service or do not want to wait in huge lines or want to go to the newest hospitals you pay extra to visit the private services. That sounds awesome.. Now. where do I get BASIC health care? Cause I am tired of being terrified that BASIC health care will put me in the poor-house. I volunteer as a firefighter/paramedic.. I am tired of patients (sometimes in horrific car accidents) that ask me to NOT take them to the hospital because they cannot afford it. Imagine looking down on someone that you just extracted from a car wreck and have strapped to a backboard begging you to let them up and let them out because of the financial burden of going to the hospital. I am more than happy to pay for extra medical services. Whatever those may be.. Heck, I can even buy more insurance if I need to. I buy extra insurance riders for my car to cover me when I am driving on private forest-lands on top of the mandatory insurance needed for my vehicle. Why are we not having a discussion regarding required insurance for vehicles? Aren't you just as p-o-ed that you are required to pay that extra tax to drive your car? Again.. need more sleep, less coffee.. Sorry to rant so much... ryan On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 7:09 PM, Nathan Stooke nstooke...@wisperisp.com wrote: Hello, I worked on a programming project for one of the guys that started WedMD years back. He was starting another company that worked with the insurance flow of paper
Re: [WISPA] health insurance
That's the part I don't understand we get quotes every year from the three companies that can provide coverage in our area. The quotes vary by as much as 10%. We always go with the cheapest plan, unless it's not our current provider and we can get them to match the price. They often do. Travis Microserv Tim Sylvester wrote: 1. If the high cost of health care insurance is being caused by the insurance company executives raking in loads of money, why hasn't free enterprises created competition. If all the insurance company A is averaging a profit of $100 billion/year, wouldn't free enterprise generate a competitor that decided to charge 25% lower premiums and still make a great $75 billion/year? Health insurance companies are except from anti-trust laws and they carve up markets. If you try purchase a health care plan for your employees, how many different companies offer coverage in your area? So, free enterprise doesn't exist in the health care market. Tim WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] www.google.com
I set my max cache from 1w to 15m. On 12/6/09, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Same here. I'll report back if it happens again. Thx! On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:26 PM, can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net wrote: Some people think it has to do with the max UDP packet size so I increased mine to 768. Now... only time will tell. On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:13 PM, can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net wrote: Actually, I just noticed in MT that you can set the cache-max-ttl. So, I set it to 15 minutes. On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 11:11 PM, can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net wrote: Seeing the same thing. Flushing the cache seems to fix it for a while. Looks like it's been a bug for a little while: http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=2t=35891 I'm going to try the script mentioned to flush the cache every 15 minutes. On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:57 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Josh! I figured that out too but it didnt come back quickly but rather took a few mnutes. So I thought maybe it was coincidence and there is some other issue. The interesting part is that I changed my DNS settings on my PC so wouldnt that bypass any Mikrotik issues? -RickG On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:40 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: But a quick fix is to flush your MT DNS then your PC. Should have mention that before, sorry. On 12/6/09, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: OK, 3 times in the past week that I've noticed I could not get to www.google.com via the web, nor ping it, and DNS could not resolve it. I COULD ping and resolve google.com. I tried changing my DNS to OpenDNS and Public DNS (4.2.2.1) but had the same results. M firewall is an RB450G running 4.3. Is anyone out there having this issue? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Sent from my mobile device Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] It's too darn cold!
It's cold. I spent all day and most of the night working on a tower and my feet are frozen. Time for new boots and the rest of the winter gear.. Anyone have winter gear that they swear by and not AT? I use steel toed boots (lesson learned the hard and painful way) and usually buy whatever looks good, clothing wise, from TSC. Everything is pretty much worn out, time for crap to keep me warm. Ideas so that I don't freeze to death? And gloves! Man, I never have found gloves I could wear AND use my hands at the same time. So as usual Who loves what and who hates what? Thanks. Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] It's too darn cold!
This is mostly from my list of gear I use for backpacking and biking during winter... maybe it'll be useful to you, though. First, my two favorite pieces of gear are a Windstopper fleece tobaggon and a pair of silk-weight windstopper gloves. Windstopper is a wind-proof, water-resistant fabric that in my experience is a good, cheaper alternative to Goretex in non-wet conditions. Mountain Hardware sells one of these (I think they call it Dome Perignon) that I could not get through winter without. Manzella sells the best silkweight windstopper gloves I've found. They are seriously thin (like a cotton t-shirt), so they don't impede motion, but because they are windproof and water resistant they do wonders for keeping hands warm. I have a pair of down mittens I wear over them in wet and super-cold conditions, but otherwise those gloves work great. Second, I strongly believe in the benefits of a good baselayer. This means longjohns and long undershirts. The material makes a /huge/ difference here. Polyester or polypropylene is best, in my experience, though I've heard merino wool is pretty awesome too. REI sells this under the name MTS; they have a range of weights, but I've found midweight to be pretty sufficient for me. And don't forget socks! Wool socks are a must, they will change your life... When it gets really cold, I put on the down. Nothing can beat down for warmth and weight, but it doesn't retain heat when wet, which is very important to remember. Itis a bit pricey though, and you have to take care of it well. Generally, knowing your fabrics and how to layer properly will go a long way in keeping you warm. Hats make the biggest difference in keeping you warm, and a good base layer will let your body's natural means of keeping warm be effective. Most of this stuff you can buy at outdoors or climbing stores, or online from backcountry.com or REI.com. FWIW, I live in North Carolina, so your definition of cold may differ slightly than mine. But, I have used most of this stuff at altitude so I'm confident in its warm-keeping ability. Shaddi On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:07 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: It's cold. I spent all day and most of the night working on a tower and my feet are frozen. Time for new boots and the rest of the winter gear.. Anyone have winter gear that they swear by and not AT? I use steel toed boots (lesson learned the hard and painful way) and usually buy whatever looks good, clothing wise, from TSC. Everything is pretty much worn out, time for crap to keep me warm. Ideas so that I don't freeze to death? And gloves! Man, I never have found gloves I could wear AND use my hands at the same time. So as usual Who loves what and who hates what? Thanks. Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Long Cat5 Run
Confusing info on the net so I guess I better ask. I need to run a Cat5 line near 320 feet. I know that over 300 could cause issues but if I put my PoE switch about 20 or 30 feet in and then run the rest of the way, will we be golden or will we risk attenuation? Seems to be confusion on the net over use of switch curing the attenuation. Personally I think the switch will make it all cool, just want to make sure. I use outdoor, solid core, shielded, flooded cable with static drain. Running it to a Mikrotik 600a using 4 R52N cards. Another thought, running 48v though 290 feet of solid core Cat5 Do ya think I'll have enough juice the end of the run to power up that 600a and the 4 R52N's? Just so ya know. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] It's too darn cold!
Thanks, Shaddi. Good list. Haven't thought at all about some of that. I'll look it all over. I forgot to mention it all has to fit under the safety harness as well! Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Shaddi Hasan Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 2:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] It's too darn cold! This is mostly from my list of gear I use for backpacking and biking during winter... maybe it'll be useful to you, though. First, my two favorite pieces of gear are a Windstopper fleece tobaggon and a pair of silk-weight windstopper gloves. Windstopper is a wind-proof, water-resistant fabric that in my experience is a good, cheaper alternative to Goretex in non-wet conditions. Mountain Hardware sells one of these (I think they call it Dome Perignon) that I could not get through winter without. Manzella sells the best silkweight windstopper gloves I've found. They are seriously thin (like a cotton t-shirt), so they don't impede motion, but because they are windproof and water resistant they do wonders for keeping hands warm. I have a pair of down mittens I wear over them in wet and super-cold conditions, but otherwise those gloves work great. Second, I strongly believe in the benefits of a good baselayer. This means longjohns and long undershirts. The material makes a /huge/ difference here. Polyester or polypropylene is best, in my experience, though I've heard merino wool is pretty awesome too. REI sells this under the name MTS; they have a range of weights, but I've found midweight to be pretty sufficient for me. And don't forget socks! Wool socks are a must, they will change your life... When it gets really cold, I put on the down. Nothing can beat down for warmth and weight, but it doesn't retain heat when wet, which is very important to remember. Itis a bit pricey though, and you have to take care of it well. Generally, knowing your fabrics and how to layer properly will go a long way in keeping you warm. Hats make the biggest difference in keeping you warm, and a good base layer will let your body's natural means of keeping warm be effective. Most of this stuff you can buy at outdoors or climbing stores, or online from backcountry.com or REI.com. FWIW, I live in North Carolina, so your definition of cold may differ slightly than mine. But, I have used most of this stuff at altitude so I'm confident in its warm-keeping ability. Shaddi On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:07 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: It's cold. I spent all day and most of the night working on a tower and my feet are frozen. Time for new boots and the rest of the winter gear.. Anyone have winter gear that they swear by and not AT? I use steel toed boots (lesson learned the hard and painful way) and usually buy whatever looks good, clothing wise, from TSC. Everything is pretty much worn out, time for crap to keep me warm. Ideas so that I don't freeze to death? And gloves! Man, I never have found gloves I could wear AND use my hands at the same time. So as usual Who loves what and who hates what? Thanks. Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] It's too darn cold!
Would you mind being my best friend and linking to what you're talking about? I would certainly love to give most if not all of your suggestions a try. I have never found anything to keep my hands warm - not with two hot pads and super thick gloves (which of course come off when I'm working up there...) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:27 AM, Shaddi Hasan shad...@gmail.com wrote: This is mostly from my list of gear I use for backpacking and biking during winter... maybe it'll be useful to you, though. First, my two favorite pieces of gear are a Windstopper fleece tobaggon and a pair of silk-weight windstopper gloves. Windstopper is a wind-proof, water-resistant fabric that in my experience is a good, cheaper alternative to Goretex in non-wet conditions. Mountain Hardware sells one of these (I think they call it Dome Perignon) that I could not get through winter without. Manzella sells the best silkweight windstopper gloves I've found. They are seriously thin (like a cotton t-shirt), so they don't impede motion, but because they are windproof and water resistant they do wonders for keeping hands warm. I have a pair of down mittens I wear over them in wet and super-cold conditions, but otherwise those gloves work great. Second, I strongly believe in the benefits of a good baselayer. This means longjohns and long undershirts. The material makes a /huge/ difference here. Polyester or polypropylene is best, in my experience, though I've heard merino wool is pretty awesome too. REI sells this under the name MTS; they have a range of weights, but I've found midweight to be pretty sufficient for me. And don't forget socks! Wool socks are a must, they will change your life... When it gets really cold, I put on the down. Nothing can beat down for warmth and weight, but it doesn't retain heat when wet, which is very important to remember. Itis a bit pricey though, and you have to take care of it well. Generally, knowing your fabrics and how to layer properly will go a long way in keeping you warm. Hats make the biggest difference in keeping you warm, and a good base layer will let your body's natural means of keeping warm be effective. Most of this stuff you can buy at outdoors or climbing stores, or online from backcountry.com or REI.com. FWIW, I live in North Carolina, so your definition of cold may differ slightly than mine. But, I have used most of this stuff at altitude so I'm confident in its warm-keeping ability. Shaddi On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:07 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: It's cold. I spent all day and most of the night working on a tower and my feet are frozen. Time for new boots and the rest of the winter gear.. Anyone have winter gear that they swear by and not AT? I use steel toed boots (lesson learned the hard and painful way) and usually buy whatever looks good, clothing wise, from TSC. Everything is pretty much worn out, time for crap to keep me warm. Ideas so that I don't freeze to death? And gloves! Man, I never have found gloves I could wear AND use my hands at the same time. So as usual Who loves what and who hates what? Thanks. Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Long Cat5 Run
Voltage won't be a problem. http://www.wisp-router.com/poecalculator.php At 320 feet you should be OK with the Ethernet timing. I have done 340 with 48v Ceragon (that's AirMux FYI) gear. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:31 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Confusing info on the net so I guess I better ask. I need to run a Cat5 line near 320 feet. I know that over 300 could cause issues but if I put my PoE switch about 20 or 30 feet in and then run the rest of the way, will we be golden or will we risk attenuation? Seems to be confusion on the net over use of switch curing the attenuation. Personally I think the switch will make it all cool, just want to make sure. I use outdoor, solid core, shielded, flooded cable with static drain. Running it to a Mikrotik 600a using 4 R52N cards. Another thought, running 48v though 290 feet of solid core Cat5 Do ya think I'll have enough juice the end of the run to power up that 600a and the 4 R52N's? Just so ya know. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Cleaning N Connectors
Another issue I find myself with... Dude gives me 4 2.4GHz Andrews 90 degree sectors. Cool! But I have to take them down if I want them. So I go to take them down. Hey! No LMR-400 on these things! Just naked N connectors... WTF?! Oh yeah, I put them up there but never got around to running any cable. says Wisp operator useta-wannabe. Nice. They were up there naked since spring. Inside of the connectors look okay but still not perfect. I read on the net about using alcohol, sounds bogus unless I'm supposed to drink it until I no longer care. My first thought is steel wool then I imagined myself striping the gold surface of the interior. One connector is a bit black on the outside threads, I attribute this to the large amount of bird crap on the radome. Fun. What's the right way to rehab these things? Never had to deal with this before, I tape everything including the cat. Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] It's too darn cold!
Sure! I'm linking to men's versions of these but there are women's as well. Also these are just examples; you might be able to find better prices elsewhere (backcountry.com is generally good). Hat: http://www.rei.com/product/703274 Gloves: http://www.rei.com/product/766531 Baselayer: http://www.rei.com/product/722392, http://www.rei.com/product/722393 Socks: http://www.rei.com/product/638456 A couple more things... the hat alone will keep the rest of your body warm, since most heat loss is through the head. For wool, only buy merino wool, and an organic variety if you can justify the premium. Wool can be uncomfortably itchy, but merino wool doesn't have this problem; the organics are even softer. Finally, REI actually has good articles on their site about all manner of preparing to face the outdoors, like this one on layering: http://www.rei.com/expertadvice/articles/dress+layers.html No worries about the safety harness. This stuff is designed to fit under climbing harnesses, and actually none of what I described is really bulky until you get to insulating jackets and pants. Good quality down can reduce the bulk of your insulation as well due to its warmth-to-weight ratio. Of course, it will cost you... :) Shaddi On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:36 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Would you mind being my best friend and linking to what you're talking about? I would certainly love to give most if not all of your suggestions a try. I have never found anything to keep my hands warm - not with two hot pads and super thick gloves (which of course come off when I'm working up there...) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:27 AM, Shaddi Hasan shad...@gmail.com wrote: This is mostly from my list of gear I use for backpacking and biking during winter... maybe it'll be useful to you, though. First, my two favorite pieces of gear are a Windstopper fleece tobaggon and a pair of silk-weight windstopper gloves. Windstopper is a wind-proof, water-resistant fabric that in my experience is a good, cheaper alternative to Goretex in non-wet conditions. Mountain Hardware sells one of these (I think they call it Dome Perignon) that I could not get through winter without. Manzella sells the best silkweight windstopper gloves I've found. They are seriously thin (like a cotton t-shirt), so they don't impede motion, but because they are windproof and water resistant they do wonders for keeping hands warm. I have a pair of down mittens I wear over them in wet and super-cold conditions, but otherwise those gloves work great. Second, I strongly believe in the benefits of a good baselayer. This means longjohns and long undershirts. The material makes a /huge/ difference here. Polyester or polypropylene is best, in my experience, though I've heard merino wool is pretty awesome too. REI sells this under the name MTS; they have a range of weights, but I've found midweight to be pretty sufficient for me. And don't forget socks! Wool socks are a must, they will change your life... When it gets really cold, I put on the down. Nothing can beat down for warmth and weight, but it doesn't retain heat when wet, which is very important to remember. Itis a bit pricey though, and you have to take care of it well. Generally, knowing your fabrics and how to layer properly will go a long way in keeping you warm. Hats make the biggest difference in keeping you warm, and a good base layer will let your body's natural means of keeping warm be effective. Most of this stuff you can buy at outdoors or climbing stores, or online from backcountry.com or REI.com. FWIW, I live in North Carolina, so your definition of cold may differ slightly than mine. But, I have used most of this stuff at altitude so I'm confident in its warm-keeping ability. Shaddi On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 2:07 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: It's cold. I spent all day and most of the night working on a tower and my feet are frozen. Time for new boots and the rest of the winter gear.. Anyone have winter gear that they swear by and not AT? I use steel toed boots (lesson learned the hard and painful way) and usually buy whatever looks good, clothing wise, from TSC. Everything is pretty much worn out, time for crap to keep me warm. Ideas so that I don't freeze to death? And gloves! Man, I never have found gloves I could wear AND use my hands at the same time. So as usual Who loves what and who hates what? Thanks. Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today!
