Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Owen Harrell
I keep reading what everyone is saying about government and insurance, but I don't really believe you. Most of you say that you are against the government getting involved in health care, that it is a Socialist idea. What I haven't heard is any of you saying you wanted to stop Medicare or

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread os10rules
Owen, I think maybe what you're missing is the historical perspective. Our history is people left Europe which was mostly feudal with kings and rulers dictating the details of people's lives and these people came here to be free. Collaboration is needed so the whole can exceed what the

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Matt Liotta
History should be a guide; not a box. Our country has proven that our system of government and its attitude towards the free market is unmatched by any other system of government past or present. However, multinational corporations are something new that our system is having a hard time

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread os10rules
Matt, I wasn't meaning history is a guide or a box (as in we base what we do now on the past), but merely something to remind us that yes, we are different from Europe. Europe's methods have their merit, but many Americans would feel stifled and over regulated in a European system.

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Mike Hammett
Personal responsibility? If they choose to buy a 73 LCD TV and a brand new Chrysler instead of budgeting for their health, but then run to the ER when a kid has a runny nose, they deserve the however many thousand dollar bill coming to them. Advocate and persuade, but don't force. -

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Mike Hammett
Yeah, the VA's healthcare.. there's a system we all should want. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:24 PM To: 'WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Mike Hammett
What's great about the commercial insurers, is that if you're not happy with how one company is ran, you can move to another. Just like if someone doesn't like Comcast's customer service or Verizon's service options, they can choose me for service. Just think if Qwest was everyone's sole

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Mike Hammett
Well haven't the NTIA and RUS been excellent examples of how quickly government can take a program that already exists and expand it to more people? It'll take them 1 year from the President's pen to spending the money on a program they already had. I can't wait until they do that with

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Mike Hammett
I wonder if the people that did that report are from the University of East Anglia. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 9:49 PM To:

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread os10rules
On Dec 8, 2009, at 10:17 AM, David E. Smith wrote: a proper single-payer plan would save me a few dollars. Is this a fact? We're going to have something bigger and better for more people and it's going to cost less? When I was in the merchant marine we went to the container port

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Mike Hammett
I find it astonishing that anyone on this list is for public healthcare, regardless of whatever potential benefit there may be. We're all business owners or upper management, yet some of us support the government taking over an entire industry. It's okay for some other business to be

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread David E. Smith
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 09:22, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: What's great about the commercial insurers, is that if you're not happy with how one company is ran, you can move to another. Except that you often can't, thanks to the weasel words pre-existing conditions. And even

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Mike Hammett
I support a system for people that truly cannot afford it themselves. Just pulling a number out of thin air, but I'd imagine that's only 5% of the population. My parents crested $40k in annual income not long ago, yet we (family of 5) always had everything we needed to live and grow,

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread os10rules
But look at their healthcare at #144 http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html On Dec 8, 2009, at 10:58 AM, Matt Liotta wrote: On Dec 8, 2009, at 10:11 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: Our profit is what drives the medical research and inspiration to make something better. Actually,

Re: [WISPA] Engenius 3610 indoor ap losing etehrnet and wifi

2009-12-08 Thread Alan Long
Thanks Scottie,,, We have the power company coming out also to check power. That was my first thought was brown out. This site has had power issues in the past. I did have one radio out of the bunch that had reset back to defaults. So far no packet storms detected, nor any more issues with failing

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Brad Belton
Sure sign of a person losing his argument...personal attacks. Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Liotta Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:08 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance On

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Matt Liotta
On Dec 8, 2009, at 11:10 AM, Jeff Broadwick wrote: Not sure where you got this info Matt. I've seen just the opposite. In Mississippi they had lost most of the OB/GYN docs. They are now getting what they need since they enacted tort reform. You've seen or read the studies? Because

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Mike Hammett
So then we remove interstate restrictions and if California continues to regulate against the wishes of their citizens, they can move elsewhere. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Jeff Broadwick

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Brad Belton
Agreed. Tort reform will help save healthcare costs and enable more doctors to practice their trade. My doctor just shut down his practice of 20-30 years and let his entire staff go due to the cost of business growing out of control. Brad -Original Message- From:

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Matt Liotta
On Dec 8, 2009, at 11:18 AM, Brad Belton wrote: Agreed. Tort reform will help save healthcare costs and enable more doctors to practice their trade. My doctor just shut down his practice of 20-30 years and let his entire staff go due to the cost of business growing out of control.

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Matt Liotta
On Dec 8, 2009, at 11:32 AM, Jeff Broadwick wrote: From the NY Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/05/us/05doctors.html?_r=1 The article certainly shares some facts and anecdotes regarding the 2003 Texas tort reform. However, it doesn't point to any research that ties cause and effect.

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Michael Baird
From the Washington Post also. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/30/AR2009073002816.html Regards Michael Baird From the NY Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/05/us/05doctors.html?_r=1 Regards, Jeff Jeff Broadwick ImageStream 800-813-5123 x106

Re: [WISPA] 5.8 Grids

2009-12-08 Thread Josh Luthman
I'm not a big fan of grids - especially for ptp links. Ice is your enemy. I really like the ARC 5ghz 23dbi panels (they do 4.9 to 6ghz I think). Small, strong and have worked very well for me. I use the rb411 and have 3 or 4 ptp links up right now. Probably going to be putting up another one

[WISPA] Frequency Planning

2009-12-08 Thread Andy Trimmell
Anyone have any suggestions for a program that we can use to document frequencies that is easy to use? Trying to plan 5ghz frequencies across several towers that are close proximity. WISPA Wants You! Join today!

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Andy Trimmell
[Having private options in a public world means you're paying for your healthcare twice. It's like being forced to have Qwest DSL, but electing to have FiOS instead. You're paying for 2 Internet services, one great and the other not.] Kinda like when I was home schooled as a kid and my parents

Re: [WISPA] One long @#$% day!

2009-12-08 Thread RickG
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 9:23 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] One long @#$% day! One time, I had

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Matt Liotta
On Dec 8, 2009, at 12:55 PM, Andy Trimmell wrote: Kinda like when I was home schooled as a kid and my parents had to pay school taxes for public school? Only makes sense that we'd again pay twice for another public option. Good analogy. I don't think your parents had to pay twice. They

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread RickG
Heh, its still the land of opportunity - just for the wrong people (crooks, criminals, politicians, lawyers, etc) :) On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 2:25 AM, Paul C Diem pcd...@foxvalley.net wrote: Yup, in the past century, America stopped being the land of opportunity and became the land of

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Michael Baird
The post office is bankrupt, not self supporting. http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/08/18/the-next-bankruptcy-the-u-s-postal-service/ Regards Michael Baird On Dec 8, 2009, at 12:55 PM, Andy Trimmell wrote: Kinda like when I was home schooled as a kid and my parents had to pay school taxes

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread RickG
Well, this discussion is about what is coming , not what we have but to make you happy - stop Medicare, Social Security, and shut down the VA hospitals! VA patients would be much better served in the private sector with much less waste. Medicare Social Security: The biggest pyramid scheme in

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Jack Unger
IMO, this thread is getting pretty far off track and is wasting both time and WISPA resources. I respectfully request that everyone please consider the value in getting back to work and releasing this list for more productive WISP-focused usage. jack RickG wrote: Well, this

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread RickG
China - the land of human rights? The better questions is why they are looking better financially. On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Matt Liotta mlio...@r337.com wrote: On Dec 8, 2009, at 10:11 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: Our profit is what drives the medical research and inspiration to make

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Robert West
Actually, the United States ranks number 37 in the world for the best doctors and health care system. Most Americans are under the impression that we are number one in so many things but sadly we are way less than number one in most everything. The best doctors and healthcare system? France and

[WISPA] Rocket range

2009-12-08 Thread Forbes Mercy
We want to put up an M Rocket in 5gig frequency range and have four customers between 6-8 miles. Will our 17dbi 120 degree antenna reach them? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Rocket range

2009-12-08 Thread Michael Baird
It can depending on antenna height/customer antenna/LOS condition. Regards Michael Baird We want to put up an M Rocket in 5gig frequency range and have four customers between 6-8 miles. Will our 17dbi 120 degree antenna reach them?

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread jp
I run a Maine WISP, and we use the state government choice health insurance. We feel providing health insurance is an important benefit to attracting and retaining quality workers of all ages, especially young ones with families. I idealogically disfavor our states plan, but it saved us

Re: [WISPA] 5.8 Grids

2009-12-08 Thread jp
We've noticed 5.8 grids are far more affected by icing than 2.4 or 900. Ice buildup isn't different, just attenuation is. We stick to solid dishes or flat panels for 5.8. On Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 11:05:01AM -0500, Michael Baird wrote: I've been testing a few 5.8 grids for some p2p applications

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Robert West
Hahahahaha! I hope you got it on the first shot. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blake Bowers Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 1:28 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance Just to break up the

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Robert West
A man who also speaks from the truth. Thank you, Owen. That was a lot of words from you, brother! You must really mean what ya say. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Owen Harrell Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Robert West
You got it right on that. The position that I'm not gonna help these people who think they are entitled argument is foolish because yes, they may get it for free when they don't work for it but on the back end they are already costing you and you can't see that. I do a lot of work for the local

Re: [WISPA] 5.8 Grids

2009-12-08 Thread Josh Luthman
I should note my bad experience has always been with 5.8 grids, too. Never 900 and we put up our first monster Pac 2.4 grid recently. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. ---

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread ccrum
Take the profit out of health care and the quality will go with it. Would you do your job for what the gov will pay? Maybe you haven't noticed, but it takes a smart person and a whole lot of hard work to get into and get through medical school in the US. If there is no incentive above helping

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Robert West
I'm moving to Illinois. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 10:49 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance I support a system for people that truly cannot

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Robert West
And I, for one, are looking forward to melamine in all my future Chinese made prescription drugs. Mmmm Can't get enough of that melamine. Joke, by the way. Maybe not a pretty one, though. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Blake Bowers
If Cuba is so good, why do they rank below the US? Oh - I forgot - that same WHO survey that called us 37th is hopelessly flawed in the first place. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Robert West
True but I see the personal attacks starting to creep in and that's not good. We are all basically friends and everyone knows that politics and religion can tear that apart. I'd do anything for each and every one of you regardless and just because a person believes one way and not yours doesn't

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Robert West
No, I haven't. I'll check into that one, thanks! And agree, this all needs to stop. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 2:03 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re:

[WISPA] Not About Health Insurance

2009-12-08 Thread Robert West
I kinda thought we might need a new thread that wasn't about Health Insurance. Look at me, I run a wireless internet company! That's all. Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. 740-335-7020

Re: [WISPA] Frequency Planning

2009-12-08 Thread ccrum
Wispmon will. You can enter frequencies per sector and get a visual view in the form of a unique color per frequency per sector on a Map among many of the other features. Hit me off list at my other company (cc...@wispmon.com) and I can help you set up free 30 day trial. Use it for your

Re: [WISPA] Rocket range

2009-12-08 Thread Robert West
George said he's been installing a bunch of them but was having issues with the 120's and was installing them as if they were 90's, as in using 4 120 sectors. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Forbes Mercy Sent:

Re: [WISPA] 5.8 Grids

2009-12-08 Thread Robert West
Oh, thanks! I put up a bunch of those el cheapo 5.8 pac grids this summer. Now I have all this to look forward to. Sigh :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:01 PM

Re: [WISPA] 5.8 Grids

2009-12-08 Thread Scott Reed
Not just the icing. In the last month I have replaced 2 PW 5.8 grids (29db) with 2' dishes. When the grids were installed we got signals of around -72. When we took them down, we were getting -80. The dishes are getting -69. This was 2 links, changing just one end. We had a similar problem

[WISPA] Fixing buried cable

2009-12-08 Thread Scott Reed
I have a customer that cut the cat 5 right at the ground in September. I put a jack at the ground and a plug on the remaining cable and wrapped it up as well as I could, knowing I would be back. Sure enough, today I went back to re-fix it in the sleet. What fun. I think it is better because

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Matt Liotta
Those other countries that have better health outcomes and a longer life expectancy have taken profit out of healthcare. Further, their doctors are smart and spent a lot of time and money going to medical as well. Most did it for the same reasons as doctors here. And many get paid well

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Matt Liotta
On Dec 8, 2009, at 4:18 PM, Blake Bowers wrote: If Cuba is so good, why do they rank below the US? Mostly likely because they are such a poor country and can't spend much money on healthcare. -Matt WISPA

Re: [WISPA] 5.8 Grids

2009-12-08 Thread Robert West
Probably so. The pac feed horn is fairly flimsy. I'm always afraid to put too much force on them due to the plastic seam along the side looking like it's not exactly sealed much. I always imagine the thing coming apart in my hand whenever I put the small metal deflector on the end. Bob-

Re: [WISPA] Fixing buried cable

2009-12-08 Thread Robert West
I've used those 3-m or scotch crimp button connectors before, got a box of them still in the van. It's really ugly though and you have to make sure you keep as many twists in the wire as you can. But then you still have to seal it all and RTV would be my choice. If I had to, and if I had any

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Blake Bowers
You can't have it both ways. The survey (which is flawed, but it was brought up) says that Cuba rates below the US. Did you read how the numbers were come up with? Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. -

Re: [WISPA] Fixing buried cable

2009-12-08 Thread Scott Reed
Ugly isn't an issue as the cable is so short I want dig up a foot of it, re-splice it and bury the splice. Robert West wrote: I've used those 3-m or scotch crimp button connectors before, got a box of them still in the van. It's really ugly though and you have to make sure you keep as many

Re: [WISPA] Not About Health Insurance

2009-12-08 Thread Mike
You'f fit right in here at Gilly Hollow with Wink the one eyed cat and Paris the three legged dog. And most of this group would do anything in the world for you too. At 03:50 PM 12/8/2009, you wrote: I kinda thought we might need a new thread that wasn't about Health Insurance. Look at me,

Re: [WISPA] Fixing buried cable

2009-12-08 Thread Robert West
I think anything you do, as long as the conductors are connected and protected from the weather will be fine. Just keep as many twists in the wire as you can. I've made some pretty nasty splices in the past and they all worked perfectly. I just have a thing about looking professional and not

Re: [WISPA] Fixing buried cable

2009-12-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Ah! Took me an hour to find this (everyone wanting to chat and text and call and ask and...) http://mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=p08Uhw9w2FyOGS2yhLmq6g%3d%3d Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is

Re: [WISPA] Fixing buried cable

2009-12-08 Thread Robert West
Looks good but did you check that availability? 12 weeks? Yikes!!! -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 6:16 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fixing buried cable

Re: [WISPA] Fixing buried cable

2009-12-08 Thread lakeland
Tape around the splice, mastic around the tape then 3 more layers of tape. But I would waitfor a nice dry day so there is no moisture to deal with. Just like a transmission line connector Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Scott Reed

Re: [WISPA] 5.8 Grids

2009-12-08 Thread Phil Curnutt
The 5.8's have a metal horn, not plastic. The 2.4's are plastic. Phil On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote: Probably so. The pac feed horn is fairly flimsy. I'm always afraid to put too much force on them due to the plastic seam along the side looking

[WISPA] FW: Get connected with AVP's Universal Panel

2009-12-08 Thread Jerry Richardson
These are cool! From: AVP Mfg. Supply Inc. [mailto:avp_mfg.__supply_...@mail.vresp.com] Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 9:52 AM To: jrichardson@gmail.com Subject: Get connected with AVP's Universal Panel Click to view this email in a

Re: [WISPA] Fixing buried cable

2009-12-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Oh sorry I didn't realize the lack of units. They work very well - I ordered several and store them for myself. I have had each and every last tape job I'm aware of go bad. Maybe we're all doing something wrong, I don't know. I've used all kinds of combinations of things including 3M

Re: [WISPA] Fixing buried cable

2009-12-08 Thread Josh Luthman
*Estimated Ship Date* 54 12/11/2009 They're getting 54 of them in 3 days FYI. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Josh

Re: [WISPA] 5.8 Grids

2009-12-08 Thread Robert West
All of the 5.8's I put up are plastic on the end. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Phil Curnutt Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 6:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.8 Grids The 5.8's have a metal

Re: [WISPA] Fixing buried cable

2009-12-08 Thread Pat O'Connor
Scotch Lock each pair together. Wrap two pairs around the main wire in one direction, and two in the other direction. Cover with a RG-11 coax splice boot. It's filled with non-conductive gel. Scott Reed wrote: I have a customer that cut the cat 5 right at the ground in September. I put

Re: [WISPA] Fixing buried cable

2009-12-08 Thread Scott Reed
I may have one of those in the parts box. Hadn't thought of it. Don't think I will order one for this customer, though. Lead time is 12 weeks. Josh Luthman wrote: Ah! Took me an hour to find this (everyone wanting to chat and text and call and ask and...)

Re: [WISPA] Fixing buried cable

2009-12-08 Thread Josh Luthman
They ordered some already. 54 units will show up in 3 days. You can probably order them now to see if 54 were preordered or not. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. ---

[WISPA] Here is something actually about Wireless- The Dude

2009-12-08 Thread rwf
I'm trying to implement The Dude as a method of monitoring inside a network's firewall/router (actually a hot spot portal) and have it working OK. It was a bear to get it figured out how get it to to use a remote probe or whatever they call another instance of Dude running on a box inside.

Re: [WISPA] Fixing buried cable

2009-12-08 Thread D. Ryan Spott
If you are running more than 6-7mbits then use some other splice or replace the whole cable. If you are running less than this, then most any splice will work. :) ryan On Dec 8, 2009, at 2:45 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: I think anything you do, as long as the

Re: [WISPA] Fixing buried cable

2009-12-08 Thread lakeland
We have those. Use them all the time but I would not bury these. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 18:19:26 To: 'WISPA General List'wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fixing buried cable

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Mike Hammett
Right. Just like the people that want to go somewhere in life with private schools, the people that want to live will have to pay extra for private insurance. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From:

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Mike Hammett
Exactly. Bernie Madoff went to jail because of his Ponzi scheme, why didn't FDR for social security? Well, other than the obvious of him dieing. Again, if Maryland wants to do social security, great. Leave it out of Kansas. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Matt Liotta
On Dec 8, 2009, at 5:37 PM, Blake Bowers wrote: You can't have it both ways. The survey (which is flawed, but it was brought up) says that Cuba rates below the US. Did you read how the numbers were come up with? I guess I don't understand how I am expecting it both ways. You asked why

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread os10rules
Sorry guys, I just have to jump in on the Cuban health care thing. I live in Venezuela and we have LOTS of Cuban doctors. I know some personally. I know Venezuelans who have studied in Cuba. It's nothing like they (the Cuban govt) say it is. The numbers are good because it's a closed

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Matt Liotta
On Dec 8, 2009, at 7:16 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: Exactly. Bernie Madoff went to jail because of his Ponzi scheme, why didn't FDR for social security? Well, other than the obvious of him dieing. Maybe you don't realize that Madoff fraudulently mislead investors whereas social security is

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Matt Liotta
And I guess because you know someone from Canada/Britain/France/Spain/ etc that swears the healthcare is worse then they make it out to be and that the US is where everyone with money goes then it must be true. Let's all just ignore study after study that shows every single first world

Re: [WISPA] WISPA Files USF Comments with FCC

2009-12-08 Thread Brian Webster
Jack and all, Very nice job on this filing. I know you were under tremendous pressure to learn about the issues at hand and still meet the filing deadline. At least now the WISP industry had been heard and offered some possible solutions. It was very important to go on record with some ideas.

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Josh Luthman
Never heard a complaint in Canada. Can we keep this #WISPA and not #Insurance please? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:59

[WISPA] EEI 100' Monopole Cell Tower

2009-12-08 Thread Stuart Pierce
I've come across a good deal on a tower if anyone wants information on it, $15K for this and never erected. I'm looking for Trylon 96'er towers and of course who has the least expensive ones and the closer the better for shipping. spie...@avolve.net

Re: [WISPA] Fixing buried cable

2009-12-08 Thread lakeland
I revise that. Use them and wrap them with tape and mastic. :-) And we use them on Dragonwave and Ceragon installs (100 Mb+) without issue. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: lakel...@gbcx.net Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 00:16:03 To: WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] Fixing buried cable

2009-12-08 Thread Brian Webster
They make underground telephone splice blocks that are like a super sized scotch lock plastic case filled with a big blob of white goey snot. The idea is you make your splice however you need to then wad the whole thing in to the blob of snot, snap the cover closed and the gel flows around the

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Robert West
What? FDR is dead??? I thought him and Stalin went halfs on a condo in Malta Maybe I have my history mixed up. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Robert West
I did, they said it was too darn cold and I agreed. But the beer was good. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 8:04 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance

[WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012

2009-12-08 Thread Mike Hammett
http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/12/07/80211ac.process.underway/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread os10rules
Matt, Chill, you're taking a really harsh tone. I'm talking about Cuba because I know about that. I have many Latino friends. I speak Spanish. I know Cubans and I know a lot of people who have been to Cuba. You're putting words in my mouth. I'm not refuting all those other countries

Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012

2009-12-08 Thread Philip Dorr
The IEEE has recently begun the first steps of voting on a major improvement to Wi-Fi standards due in two years. The 802.11ac standard should upgrade 802.11a to use 80MHz or even 160MHz channels that provide much more bandwidth than today. Just reading the first couple of sentences it looks like

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread Matt Liotta
On Dec 8, 2009, at 8:56 PM, os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Matt, Chill, you're taking a really harsh tone. I'm talking about Cuba because I know about that. I have many Latino friends. I speak Spanish. I know Cubans and I know a lot of people who have been to Cuba. You're putting

Re: [WISPA] Rocket range

2009-12-08 Thread Jayson Baker
Depends on what the customer will be using. NanoM? BulletM? What kind of antenna? As a rule, should be fine. Rocket M - Nano M should work at that range decent. On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.comwrote: We want to put up an M Rocket in 5gig frequency

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread os10rules
Matt, Please reread what I said. I wasn't commenting on the whole healthcare debate. I was talking about Cuba. CUBA CUBA CUBA. Do you get it now? Just CUBA. Reread the original post and get off your high horse. Have you noticed everyone else stopped replying to you. Everyone

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread MDK
As I stated before... Medicare reimburses such low amounts, that ever doctor, hospital, clinic, lab, etc, that accepts it does so at a loss. Not just no profit but at a loss.Not only that, but Medicare has the highest level of financial fraud, period. It's very efficient... at giving

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread MDK
LOL... I was being lectured by some do-gooder online for my rotten morality, and my answer to him was... So, I have invested my entire life savings, toiled for 4 years without a paycheck to put all the cash back into the business, and have worked more hours than can ever be accounted for.

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread MDK
I dunno about him, but I can tell you that over the last 5.5 years I've been in business, I have seen the last of the rice, beans, flour, bread, milk vanish and the bank account be just as empty as the fridge and pantry a good many times. And, even when facing that kind of need at home, I've

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread MDK
Think IRS compassion. I've got a personal debt to my state, and you have no idea how incredibly nasty they are. The guy actually told me wife it would be better if she were also unemployed, so as to assure that no additional tax debt might be incurred. Now THAT is the kind of health care

Re: [WISPA] Wi-Fi to top 1 GB/s by 2012

2009-12-08 Thread Robert West
160MHz channels? What in the heck frequency are they looking muddy up THIS time??? Just think of an apartment building with 1/3 of the residents running 160MHz channels on their routers and yet they only have 10mbps internet and the channels are all set on Auto along with everything

Re: [WISPA] Insurance....

2009-12-08 Thread MDK
Marlon... Exactly. A number of years ago, I made acquaintance of nice guy who is Norwegian... A programmer, open source aficionado. One day we got talking about our living - you know, home, car, food, etc.I mentioned something about losing my home a few years back due to unemployment.

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