Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet2HP

2009-12-18 Thread Robert West
I've had 2 of the Bullet5HP's have bad connectors, not the 2's.  Being the
geek type, took them apart and found that the fingers coming off the
connector had very little solder on them and none was only under the
connector and not on the sides or top.  Essentially only enough to tack it
on.  The first one that came loose I thought it was my fault for pushing it
too hard so I didn't do an RMA and just fixed it myself and when the second
happened, fixed that one too.  Easier than an RMA just for solder.
Personally I'd like to see a more robust LAN connector and have it attached
better in the front to avoid rocking.

Bob-



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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of RickG
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 2:57 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet2HP

I'll double-check the connectors and let you know.

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote:

 Rick,

 I read something about guys complaining about high rates of failure with
 the connectors on the latest batch 10/22/2009 or something.

 Regards
 Michael Baird
  Anyone having issues with flaky Bullet2HP units? The last batch I got
 wont
  connect to my StarOS/WRAP's. Actually, I discovered they do connect but
 have
  80+% packet loss. I updated them to 3.5 firmware but no help. Previous
  shipments have worked great. -RickG
 
 
 



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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet2HP

2009-12-18 Thread Robert West
I haven't come across that little issue yet, thanks for the heads up!  I
like the price and some of the shortcuts contribute to that but you're
right, some things need to be more rugged for where they are installed and
even HOW they are installed.  The mounting brackets are fantastic, I was
impressed by them but the connectors are the opposite.  I can accept the SMA
connectors but only if they're going to the attached rocket.  I still shake
my head at it though.  Must be my old way of thinking.

Bob-



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeremy Parr
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 9:48 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet2HP

We found the same problem with the sna cables on the airmax sectors.
Pull just a little bit too hand and the cable pulls out of the
connecter. Why any manufacturer would think that cables that small are
suitable for outdoor use is beyond me.

On 12/18/09, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 I've had 2 of the Bullet5HP's have bad connectors, not the 2's.  Being the
 geek type, took them apart and found that the fingers coming off the
 connector had very little solder on them and none was only under the
 connector and not on the sides or top.  Essentially only enough to tack it
 on.  The first one that came loose I thought it was my fault for pushing
it
 too hard so I didn't do an RMA and just fixed it myself and when the
second
 happened, fixed that one too.  Easier than an RMA just for solder.
 Personally I'd like to see a more robust LAN connector and have it
attached
 better in the front to avoid rocking.

 Bob-



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 2:57 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet2HP

 I'll double-check the connectors and let you know.

 On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote:

 Rick,

 I read something about guys complaining about high rates of failure with
 the connectors on the latest batch 10/22/2009 or something.

 Regards
 Michael Baird
  Anyone having issues with flaky Bullet2HP units? The last batch I got
 wont
  connect to my StarOS/WRAP's. Actually, I discovered they do connect but
 have
  80+% packet loss. I updated them to 3.5 firmware but no help. Previous
  shipments have worked great. -RickG
 
 
 



 
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet2HP

2009-12-18 Thread Jeremy Parr
Trango uses SMA connectors for their external antennas, but with
LMR240, rather than whatever it is that UBNT uses.

2009/12/18 Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com:
 I haven't come across that little issue yet, thanks for the heads up!  I
 like the price and some of the shortcuts contribute to that but you're
 right, some things need to be more rugged for where they are installed and
 even HOW they are installed.  The mounting brackets are fantastic, I was
 impressed by them but the connectors are the opposite.  I can accept the SMA
 connectors but only if they're going to the attached rocket.  I still shake
 my head at it though.  Must be my old way of thinking.

 Bob-



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Jeremy Parr
 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 9:48 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet2HP

 We found the same problem with the sna cables on the airmax sectors.
 Pull just a little bit too hand and the cable pulls out of the
 connecter. Why any manufacturer would think that cables that small are
 suitable for outdoor use is beyond me.

 On 12/18/09, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 I've had 2 of the Bullet5HP's have bad connectors, not the 2's.  Being the
 geek type, took them apart and found that the fingers coming off the
 connector had very little solder on them and none was only under the
 connector and not on the sides or top.  Essentially only enough to tack it
 on.  The first one that came loose I thought it was my fault for pushing
 it
 too hard so I didn't do an RMA and just fixed it myself and when the
 second
 happened, fixed that one too.  Easier than an RMA just for solder.
 Personally I'd like to see a more robust LAN connector and have it
 attached
 better in the front to avoid rocking.

 Bob-



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 2:57 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet2HP

 I'll double-check the connectors and let you know.

 On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote:

 Rick,

 I read something about guys complaining about high rates of failure with
 the connectors on the latest batch 10/22/2009 or something.

 Regards
 Michael Baird
  Anyone having issues with flaky Bullet2HP units? The last batch I got
 wont
  connect to my StarOS/WRAP's. Actually, I discovered they do connect but
 have
  80+% packet loss. I updated them to 3.5 firmware but no help. Previous
  shipments have worked great. -RickG
 
 
 


 
 
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Re: [WISPA] stimulus announcements thus far

2009-12-18 Thread Curtis Maurand
I'm from Maine.  Its good for Mainers.  Its better for GWI and Fletcher 
Kittredge who's been looking to overbuild Fairpoint for a very long 
time.  Now he gets his chance.  Its going to be bad for the small 
provider.  You're still not going to get a break on connectivity.  It 
will follow GWI's usual pricing model which is very expensive.  He's 
going to get a more advantageous deal for GWI retail and federal money 
to do the deal.  He doesn't even have to put up much of his own money to 
get it done.  Talk about an inside game.  Trading one monopoly for 
another is not good.  It does inject a third player into the game, 
though and that's good.

On 12/17/2009 2:17 PM, Josh Cheney wrote:
 Speaking as someone from Maine, and who knows a bit about what that plan
 entails, it is an excellent project.

 On 12/17/09 2:10 PM, Robert West wrote:

 On the outside, that all sounds like reasonable choices and towards the
 actual goal.




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 Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 1:41 PM
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 Subject: [WISPA] stimulus announcements thus far

 A $33.5 million grant to the North Georgia Network Cooperative for a
 fiber-optic ring that will bring high-speed Internet connections to
 the northern Georgia foothills of the Appalachian Mountains. The
 project will serve an eight-county area with a population of 334,000.

 A $25.4 million grant to the Biddleford Internet Corp., a partnership
 between the University of Maine and service providers, to build three
 fiber-optic rings across rural Maine. The network will pass through
 more than 100 communities with 110,000 households and will connect 10
 University of Maine campuses.

 A combined grant/loan of $2.4 million to the Consolidated Electric
 Cooperative in north central Ohio to build a 166-mile fiber network
 that will be used, among other things, to connect 16 electrical
 substations to support a smart grid project.

 A 4G wireless network to be built by an Alaska Native Corporation in
 southwestern Alaska, a fiber-to-the-home project in a remote corner of
 New Hampshire and computer centers for 84 libraries in Arizona.

 -Matt


 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet2HP

2009-12-18 Thread Robert West
Yeah, that would be a nicer cable.  Honestly I'm afraid of popping the
connector off the UBNT ones when I have to bend it so sharply.  It must have
been another tradeoff since the area between the rocket and the connector on
the antenna is so small, you probably couldn’t bend a much thicker cable in
such a tight loop.

Bob-

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeremy Parr
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 10:34 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet2HP

Trango uses SMA connectors for their external antennas, but with
LMR240, rather than whatever it is that UBNT uses.

2009/12/18 Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com:
 I haven't come across that little issue yet, thanks for the heads up!  I
 like the price and some of the shortcuts contribute to that but you're
 right, some things need to be more rugged for where they are installed and
 even HOW they are installed.  The mounting brackets are fantastic, I was
 impressed by them but the connectors are the opposite.  I can accept the
SMA
 connectors but only if they're going to the attached rocket.  I still
shake
 my head at it though.  Must be my old way of thinking.

 Bob-



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Jeremy Parr
 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 9:48 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet2HP

 We found the same problem with the sna cables on the airmax sectors.
 Pull just a little bit too hand and the cable pulls out of the
 connecter. Why any manufacturer would think that cables that small are
 suitable for outdoor use is beyond me.

 On 12/18/09, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 I've had 2 of the Bullet5HP's have bad connectors, not the 2's.  Being
the
 geek type, took them apart and found that the fingers coming off the
 connector had very little solder on them and none was only under the
 connector and not on the sides or top.  Essentially only enough to tack
it
 on.  The first one that came loose I thought it was my fault for pushing
 it
 too hard so I didn't do an RMA and just fixed it myself and when the
 second
 happened, fixed that one too.  Easier than an RMA just for solder.
 Personally I'd like to see a more robust LAN connector and have it
 attached
 better in the front to avoid rocking.

 Bob-



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 2:57 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet2HP

 I'll double-check the connectors and let you know.

 On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote:

 Rick,

 I read something about guys complaining about high rates of failure with
 the connectors on the latest batch 10/22/2009 or something.

 Regards
 Michael Baird
  Anyone having issues with flaky Bullet2HP units? The last batch I got
 wont
  connect to my StarOS/WRAP's. Actually, I discovered they do connect
but
 have
  80+% packet loss. I updated them to 3.5 firmware but no help. Previous
  shipments have worked great. -RickG
 
 
 




 
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet2HP

2009-12-18 Thread Jeremy Parr
No, but they could have put the connectors on the bottom of the
antenna, and on the bottom of the radio (where they belong!) And used
a 12 piece of lmr240.

On 12/18/09, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 Yeah, that would be a nicer cable.  Honestly I'm afraid of popping the
 connector off the UBNT ones when I have to bend it so sharply.  It must have
 been another tradeoff since the area between the rocket and the connector on
 the antenna is so small, you probably couldn’t bend a much thicker cable in
 such a tight loop.

 Bob-

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Jeremy Parr
 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 10:34 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet2HP

 Trango uses SMA connectors for their external antennas, but with
 LMR240, rather than whatever it is that UBNT uses.

 2009/12/18 Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com:
 I haven't come across that little issue yet, thanks for the heads up!  I
 like the price and some of the shortcuts contribute to that but you're
 right, some things need to be more rugged for where they are installed and
 even HOW they are installed.  The mounting brackets are fantastic, I was
 impressed by them but the connectors are the opposite.  I can accept the
 SMA
 connectors but only if they're going to the attached rocket.  I still
 shake
 my head at it though.  Must be my old way of thinking.

 Bob-



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Jeremy Parr
 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 9:48 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet2HP

 We found the same problem with the sna cables on the airmax sectors.
 Pull just a little bit too hand and the cable pulls out of the
 connecter. Why any manufacturer would think that cables that small are
 suitable for outdoor use is beyond me.

 On 12/18/09, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 I've had 2 of the Bullet5HP's have bad connectors, not the 2's.  Being
 the
 geek type, took them apart and found that the fingers coming off the
 connector had very little solder on them and none was only under the
 connector and not on the sides or top.  Essentially only enough to tack
 it
 on.  The first one that came loose I thought it was my fault for pushing
 it
 too hard so I didn't do an RMA and just fixed it myself and when the
 second
 happened, fixed that one too.  Easier than an RMA just for solder.
 Personally I'd like to see a more robust LAN connector and have it
 attached
 better in the front to avoid rocking.

 Bob-



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 2:57 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet2HP

 I'll double-check the connectors and let you know.

 On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote:

 Rick,

 I read something about guys complaining about high rates of failure with
 the connectors on the latest batch 10/22/2009 or something.

 Regards
 Michael Baird
  Anyone having issues with flaky Bullet2HP units? The last batch I got
 wont
  connect to my StarOS/WRAP's. Actually, I discovered they do connect
 but
 have
  80+% packet loss. I updated them to 3.5 firmware but no help. Previous
  shipments have worked great. -RickG
 
 
 



 
 
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet2HP

2009-12-18 Thread Jayson Baker
Why would you want the connector on the bottom?  So it can fill up with
water?
Being on the top, the water will run over the connector and not fill it.
 Makes sense to me.
Of course, we still seal them up.

On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com wrote:

 No, but they could have put the connectors on the bottom of the
 antenna, and on the bottom of the radio (where they belong!) And used
 a 12 piece of lmr240.

 On 12/18/09, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
  Yeah, that would be a nicer cable.  Honestly I'm afraid of popping the
  connector off the UBNT ones when I have to bend it so sharply.  It must
 have
  been another tradeoff since the area between the rocket and the connector
 on
  the antenna is so small, you probably couldn’t bend a much thicker cable
 in
  such a tight loop.
 
  Bob-
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Jeremy Parr
  Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 10:34 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet2HP
 
  Trango uses SMA connectors for their external antennas, but with
  LMR240, rather than whatever it is that UBNT uses.
 
  2009/12/18 Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com:
  I haven't come across that little issue yet, thanks for the heads up!  I
  like the price and some of the shortcuts contribute to that but you're
  right, some things need to be more rugged for where they are installed
 and
  even HOW they are installed.  The mounting brackets are fantastic, I was
  impressed by them but the connectors are the opposite.  I can accept the
  SMA
  connectors but only if they're going to the attached rocket.  I still
  shake
  my head at it though.  Must be my old way of thinking.
 
  Bob-
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Jeremy Parr
  Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 9:48 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet2HP
 
  We found the same problem with the sna cables on the airmax sectors.
  Pull just a little bit too hand and the cable pulls out of the
  connecter. Why any manufacturer would think that cables that small are
  suitable for outdoor use is beyond me.
 
  On 12/18/09, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
  I've had 2 of the Bullet5HP's have bad connectors, not the 2's.  Being
  the
  geek type, took them apart and found that the fingers coming off the
  connector had very little solder on them and none was only under the
  connector and not on the sides or top.  Essentially only enough to tack
  it
  on.  The first one that came loose I thought it was my fault for
 pushing
  it
  too hard so I didn't do an RMA and just fixed it myself and when the
  second
  happened, fixed that one too.  Easier than an RMA just for solder.
  Personally I'd like to see a more robust LAN connector and have it
  attached
  better in the front to avoid rocking.
 
  Bob-
 
 
 
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  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
 On
  Behalf Of RickG
  Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 2:57 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet2HP
 
  I'll double-check the connectors and let you know.
 
  On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com
 wrote:
 
  Rick,
 
  I read something about guys complaining about high rates of failure
 with
  the connectors on the latest batch 10/22/2009 or something.
 
  Regards
  Michael Baird
   Anyone having issues with flaky Bullet2HP units? The last batch I
 got
  wont
   connect to my StarOS/WRAP's. Actually, I discovered they do connect
  but
  have
   80+% packet loss. I updated them to 3.5 firmware but no help.
 Previous
   shipments have worked great. -RickG
  
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
  
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet2HP

2009-12-18 Thread Robert West
You got it, pal! 



-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Jeremy Parr
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 11:07 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet2HP

No, but they could have put the connectors on the bottom of the
antenna, and on the bottom of the radio (where they belong!) And used
a 12 piece of lmr240.

On 12/18/09, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 Yeah, that would be a nicer cable.  Honestly I'm afraid of popping the
 connector off the UBNT ones when I have to bend it so sharply.  It must
have
 been another tradeoff since the area between the rocket and the connector
on
 the antenna is so small, you probably couldn’t bend a much thicker cable
in
 such a tight loop.

 Bob-

 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Jeremy Parr
 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 10:34 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet2HP

 Trango uses SMA connectors for their external antennas, but with
 LMR240, rather than whatever it is that UBNT uses.

 2009/12/18 Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com:
 I haven't come across that little issue yet, thanks for the heads up!  I
 like the price and some of the shortcuts contribute to that but you're
 right, some things need to be more rugged for where they are installed
and
 even HOW they are installed.  The mounting brackets are fantastic, I was
 impressed by them but the connectors are the opposite.  I can accept the
 SMA
 connectors but only if they're going to the attached rocket.  I still
 shake
 my head at it though.  Must be my old way of thinking.

 Bob-



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Jeremy Parr
 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 9:48 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet2HP

 We found the same problem with the sna cables on the airmax sectors.
 Pull just a little bit too hand and the cable pulls out of the
 connecter. Why any manufacturer would think that cables that small are
 suitable for outdoor use is beyond me.

 On 12/18/09, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 I've had 2 of the Bullet5HP's have bad connectors, not the 2's.  Being
 the
 geek type, took them apart and found that the fingers coming off the
 connector had very little solder on them and none was only under the
 connector and not on the sides or top.  Essentially only enough to tack
 it
 on.  The first one that came loose I thought it was my fault for pushing
 it
 too hard so I didn't do an RMA and just fixed it myself and when the
 second
 happened, fixed that one too.  Easier than an RMA just for solder.
 Personally I'd like to see a more robust LAN connector and have it
 attached
 better in the front to avoid rocking.

 Bob-



 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 2:57 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet2HP

 I'll double-check the connectors and let you know.

 On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com wrote:

 Rick,

 I read something about guys complaining about high rates of failure
with
 the connectors on the latest batch 10/22/2009 or something.

 Regards
 Michael Baird
  Anyone having issues with flaky Bullet2HP units? The last batch I got
 wont
  connect to my StarOS/WRAP's. Actually, I discovered they do connect
 but
 have
  80+% packet loss. I updated them to 3.5 firmware but no help.
Previous
  shipments have worked great. -RickG
 
 
 





 
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Re: [WISPA] stimulus announcements thus far

2009-12-18 Thread Aaron D. Osgood
Curt - wouldn't Mr. Kittredge be open to discussing using wireless to extend
the last mile?

Aaron D. Osgood

Streamline Solutions L.L.C

P.O. Box 6115
Falmouth, ME 04105 

TEL: 207-781-5561
FAX: 615-704-8067
MOBILE: 207-831-5829
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http://www.streamline-solutions.net

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-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Curtis Maurand
Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 10:44 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] stimulus announcements thus far

I'm from Maine.  Its good for Mainers.  Its better for GWI and Fletcher 
Kittredge who's been looking to overbuild Fairpoint for a very long 
time.  Now he gets his chance.  Its going to be bad for the small 
provider.  You're still not going to get a break on connectivity.  It 
will follow GWI's usual pricing model which is very expensive.  He's 
going to get a more advantageous deal for GWI retail and federal money 
to do the deal.  He doesn't even have to put up much of his own money to 
get it done.  Talk about an inside game.  Trading one monopoly for 
another is not good.  It does inject a third player into the game, 
though and that's good.

On 12/17/2009 2:17 PM, Josh Cheney wrote:
 Speaking as someone from Maine, and who knows a bit about what that plan
 entails, it is an excellent project.

 On 12/17/09 2:10 PM, Robert West wrote:

 On the outside, that all sounds like reasonable choices and towards the
 actual goal.




 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Matt Liotta
 Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 1:41 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] stimulus announcements thus far

 A $33.5 million grant to the North Georgia Network Cooperative for a
 fiber-optic ring that will bring high-speed Internet connections to
 the northern Georgia foothills of the Appalachian Mountains. The
 project will serve an eight-county area with a population of 334,000.

 A $25.4 million grant to the Biddleford Internet Corp., a partnership
 between the University of Maine and service providers, to build three
 fiber-optic rings across rural Maine. The network will pass through
 more than 100 communities with 110,000 households and will connect 10
 University of Maine campuses.

 A combined grant/loan of $2.4 million to the Consolidated Electric
 Cooperative in north central Ohio to build a 166-mile fiber network
 that will be used, among other things, to connect 16 electrical
 substations to support a smart grid project.

 A 4G wireless network to be built by an Alaska Native Corporation in
 southwestern Alaska, a fiber-to-the-home project in a remote corner of
 New Hampshire and computer centers for 84 libraries in Arizona.

 -Matt




 
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Re: [WISPA] stimulus announcements thus far

2009-12-18 Thread Curtis Maurand
You'd have to ask him.  I know that he's in the DSL business and is 
interested in being Maine's phone company.  This project not only 
provides relief for the desparate middle mile in maine, but if you look 
at the map on the project website 
(http://www.threeringmaine.com/map.html ) you'll see that it talks about 
GWI (Great Works Internet) central offices.  That puts GWI in control 
and if your an independent ISP in Maine, I'd be working that there is 
oversight and that there is no huge advantage for GWI in the deal.  
After all, he gets to build the network and he doesn't have to foot the 
bill for it.  Yes it means jobs for Maine, but only a handful.

As I said, he's been interested in overbuilding (Fairpoint/Verizon) for 
years, ever since I installed his first 8 modems back in the 90's.  He's 
built quite a business.  He's no shrinking violet, He's brilliant, 
shrewd and patient.

Cheers,
Curtis

On 12/18/2009 11:29 AM, Aaron D. Osgood wrote:
 Curt - wouldn't Mr. Kittredge be open to discussing using wireless to extend
 the last mile?

 Aaron D. Osgood

 Streamline Solutions L.L.C

 P.O. Box 6115
 Falmouth, ME 04105

 TEL: 207-781-5561
 FAX: 615-704-8067
 MOBILE: 207-831-5829
 aosg...@streamline-solutions.net
 http://www.streamline-solutions.net

 Introducing Efficiency to Business since 1986.


 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Curtis Maurand
 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 10:44 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] stimulus announcements thus far

 I'm from Maine.  Its good for Mainers.  Its better for GWI and Fletcher
 Kittredge who's been looking to overbuild Fairpoint for a very long
 time.  Now he gets his chance.  Its going to be bad for the small
 provider.  You're still not going to get a break on connectivity.  It
 will follow GWI's usual pricing model which is very expensive.  He's
 going to get a more advantageous deal for GWI retail and federal money
 to do the deal.  He doesn't even have to put up much of his own money to
 get it done.  Talk about an inside game.  Trading one monopoly for
 another is not good.  It does inject a third player into the game,
 though and that's good.

 On 12/17/2009 2:17 PM, Josh Cheney wrote:

 Speaking as someone from Maine, and who knows a bit about what that plan
 entails, it is an excellent project.

 On 12/17/09 2:10 PM, Robert West wrote:

  
 On the outside, that all sounds like reasonable choices and towards the
 actual goal.




 -Original Message-
 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of Matt Liotta
 Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 1:41 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] stimulus announcements thus far

 A $33.5 million grant to the North Georgia Network Cooperative for a
 fiber-optic ring that will bring high-speed Internet connections to
 the northern Georgia foothills of the Appalachian Mountains. The
 project will serve an eight-county area with a population of 334,000.

 A $25.4 million grant to the Biddleford Internet Corp., a partnership
 between the University of Maine and service providers, to build three
 fiber-optic rings across rural Maine. The network will pass through
 more than 100 communities with 110,000 households and will connect 10
 University of Maine campuses.

 A combined grant/loan of $2.4 million to the Consolidated Electric
 Cooperative in north central Ohio to build a 166-mile fiber network
 that will be used, among other things, to connect 16 electrical
 substations to support a smart grid project.

 A 4G wireless network to be built by an Alaska Native Corporation in
 southwestern Alaska, a fiber-to-the-home project in a remote corner of
 New Hampshire and computer centers for 84 libraries in Arizona.

 -Matt




 

 
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[WISPA] UBNT M5 series nanostation

2009-12-18 Thread Data Technology
I have not used any UBNT M series units yet so I have a couple of questions.

Is an NS M5 compatible with Mikrotik 802.11N or does it have to be used 
with the Rocket M basestation?
Can it be used with Mikrotik 802.11A?

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Re: [WISPA] UBNT M5 series nanostation

2009-12-18 Thread Eje Gustafsson
Yes a NSM5 can talk with a MikroTik 11n unit. Currently they have some
issues with the M5's talking with Legacy (802.11a) equipment a new firmware
should be forth coming shortly. The latest solved a lot of the problems but
not completely. 

/ Eje

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Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 11:53 AM
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Subject: [WISPA] UBNT M5 series nanostation

I have not used any UBNT M series units yet so I have a couple of questions.

Is an NS M5 compatible with Mikrotik 802.11N or does it have to be used 
with the Rocket M basestation?
Can it be used with Mikrotik 802.11A?

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Re: [WISPA] UBNT M5 series nanostation

2009-12-18 Thread Data Technology
Thanks,



Eje Gustafsson wrote:
 Yes a NSM5 can talk with a MikroTik 11n unit. Currently they have some
 issues with the M5's talking with Legacy (802.11a) equipment a new firmware
 should be forth coming shortly. The latest solved a lot of the problems but
 not completely. 

 / Eje

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 Behalf Of Data Technology
 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 11:53 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] UBNT M5 series nanostation

 I have not used any UBNT M series units yet so I have a couple of questions.

 Is an NS M5 compatible with Mikrotik 802.11N or does it have to be used 
 with the Rocket M basestation?
 Can it be used with Mikrotik 802.11A?

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[WISPA] public subnet

2009-12-18 Thread RickG
OK, I've got a good one. I’m trying to pass public subnets to a couple of
customers. They worked before I switched them to a new, closer tower.
Bascially, it will not show the public IP when checking at
whatismyip.combut rather my firewall ip. Obviuosly, I can get on the
net with the public
ip's. What's weird is that it works at my office which is on the same tower
although it is a different access point. However, the AP's are the both
WRAP/StarOS units. My AP is running 5GHz and the customers is running
2.4GHz. One other difference is that the customer's CPE is aNS2L and mine is
a NS5. I did try a Tranzeo CPQ as well. The only other difference is that
the customer is now only one hop from the firewall versus two hops before.
Any thoughts?

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Re: [WISPA] stimulus announcements thus far

2009-12-18 Thread jp
Working with GWI beats working with Fairpoint. They are a skilled and 
fair project leader.  Any participant will have the same advantages 
provided by the project and could tap in at any splice point on the 
rings. I counter that it's not a monopoly if no provider can have more 
than 25% of it. You suggest it might be bad for small providers? It 
should lower barriers of entry for small providers to kick it up a notch 
to the next level of service. I'm going to figure out how to exploit 
three ring binder everywhere it makes business sense. Places where it 
doesn't, we've got other technologies like wireless. Wireless last mile 
is one of the intended uses of the project and that has been publicized. 
Places where it's too far to easily travel, we'll leave it up to a 
variety of other providers. Getting off Fairpoint is indeed a brilliant 
goal many ISPs share; I only have a few pots lines from them now.

On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 12:11:57PM -0500, Curtis Maurand wrote:
 You'd have to ask him.  I know that he's in the DSL business and is 
 interested in being Maine's phone company.  This project not only 
 provides relief for the desparate middle mile in maine, but if you look 
 at the map on the project website 
 (http://www.threeringmaine.com/map.html ) you'll see that it talks about 
 GWI (Great Works Internet) central offices.  That puts GWI in control 
 and if your an independent ISP in Maine, I'd be working that there is 
 oversight and that there is no huge advantage for GWI in the deal.  
 After all, he gets to build the network and he doesn't have to foot the 
 bill for it.  Yes it means jobs for Maine, but only a handful.
 
 As I said, he's been interested in overbuilding (Fairpoint/Verizon) for 
 years, ever since I installed his first 8 modems back in the 90's.  He's 
 built quite a business.  He's no shrinking violet, He's brilliant, 
 shrewd and patient.
 
 Cheers,
 Curtis
 
 On 12/18/2009 11:29 AM, Aaron D. Osgood wrote:
  Curt - wouldn't Mr. Kittredge be open to discussing using wireless to extend
  the last mile?
 
  Aaron D. Osgood
 
  Streamline Solutions L.L.C
 
  P.O. Box 6115
  Falmouth, ME 04105
 
  TEL: 207-781-5561
  FAX: 615-704-8067
  MOBILE: 207-831-5829
  aosg...@streamline-solutions.net
  http://www.streamline-solutions.net
 
  Introducing Efficiency to Business since 1986.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Curtis Maurand
  Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 10:44 AM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] stimulus announcements thus far
 
  I'm from Maine.  Its good for Mainers.  Its better for GWI and Fletcher
  Kittredge who's been looking to overbuild Fairpoint for a very long
  time.  Now he gets his chance.  Its going to be bad for the small
  provider.  You're still not going to get a break on connectivity.  It
  will follow GWI's usual pricing model which is very expensive.  He's
  going to get a more advantageous deal for GWI retail and federal money
  to do the deal.  He doesn't even have to put up much of his own money to
  get it done.  Talk about an inside game.  Trading one monopoly for
  another is not good.  It does inject a third player into the game,
  though and that's good.
 
  On 12/17/2009 2:17 PM, Josh Cheney wrote:
 
  Speaking as someone from Maine, and who knows a bit about what that plan
  entails, it is an excellent project.
 
  On 12/17/09 2:10 PM, Robert West wrote:
 
   
  On the outside, that all sounds like reasonable choices and towards the
  actual goal.
 
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
  Behalf Of Matt Liotta
  Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 1:41 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: [WISPA] stimulus announcements thus far
 
  A $33.5 million grant to the North Georgia Network Cooperative for a
  fiber-optic ring that will bring high-speed Internet connections to
  the northern Georgia foothills of the Appalachian Mountains. The
  project will serve an eight-county area with a population of 334,000.
 
  A $25.4 million grant to the Biddleford Internet Corp., a partnership
  between the University of Maine and service providers, to build three
  fiber-optic rings across rural Maine. The network will pass through
  more than 100 communities with 110,000 households and will connect 10
  University of Maine campuses.
 
  A combined grant/loan of $2.4 million to the Consolidated Electric
  Cooperative in north central Ohio to build a 166-mile fiber network
  that will be used, among other things, to connect 16 electrical
  substations to support a smart grid project.
 
  A 4G wireless network to be built by an Alaska Native Corporation in
  southwestern Alaska, a fiber-to-the-home project in a remote corner of
  New Hampshire and computer centers for 84 libraries in Arizona.
 
  -Matt
 
 
 
 
  

Re: [WISPA] UBNT M5 series nanostation

2009-12-18 Thread Greg Ihnen
I know this is different but I thought it might be of interest. I was just 
playing with an Bullet M2 and couldn't get my Macbook Pro (802.11n capable) to 
connect unless I switched from the default 40MHz channel and use the 20MHz 
channel.

Greg
On Dec 18, 2009, at 12:52 PM, Data Technology wrote:

 I have not used any UBNT M series units yet so I have a couple of questions.
 
 Is an NS M5 compatible with Mikrotik 802.11N or does it have to be used 
 with the Rocket M basestation?
 Can it be used with Mikrotik 802.11A?
 
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Re: [WISPA] public subnet

2009-12-18 Thread jree...@18-30chat.net
Routing or firewall setup issues. I pass a /24 and a /8 (NAT) across my entire
network. I use one place of NAT (well a few users still have in house NAT) I
would do traceroutes from and to the end IPs and see where things start to look
wrong.

RickG wrote:
 OK, I've got a good one. I’m trying to pass public subnets to a couple of
 customers. They worked before I switched them to a new, closer tower.
 Bascially, it will not show the public IP when checking at
 whatismyip.combut rather my firewall ip. Obviuosly, I can get on the
 net with the public
 ip's. What's weird is that it works at my office which is on the same tower
 although it is a different access point. However, the AP's are the both
 WRAP/StarOS units. My AP is running 5GHz and the customers is running
 2.4GHz. One other difference is that the customer's CPE is aNS2L and mine is
 a NS5. I did try a Tranzeo CPQ as well. The only other difference is that
 the customer is now only one hop from the firewall versus two hops before.
 Any thoughts?
 
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[WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet2

2009-12-18 Thread RickG
I just configured a Bullet2 that thinks its a Picostation2! See attached.
WTH?


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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet2

2009-12-18 Thread Mark Stephenson
We have seen similar craziness with Ubiquiti stuff. Do you think it is the
wrong firmware load in this case?

Mark


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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet2

2009-12-18 Thread Robert West
Must certainly have the wrong firmware from the factory!  Have you tried to
flash to the right firmware?  I wonder if it will bounce the Bullet firmware
as being invalid!  

Interesting, Rick.  Let us know, that's not fun.

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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet2

2009-12-18 Thread RickG
Yes, I did flash is with 3.5 for Bullet2 but no help. Therefore, I'm
guessing the Pico ID on the main page must come from the board itself? Now I
wonder if a Pico board will fit into a Bullet? Another strange thing I
noticed was it came from the factory with the the 3.4 beta firmware on it.
I've never seen a manufacturer ship a unit with put beta before. On the good
side, the unit is performing great.

On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 Must certainly have the wrong firmware from the factory!  Have you tried to
 flash to the right firmware?  I wonder if it will bounce the Bullet
 firmware
 as being invalid!

 Interesting, Rick.  Let us know, that's not fun.

 Bob-



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Re: [WISPA] public subnet

2009-12-18 Thread RickG
I agree but traceroutes run perfectly. Just to be clear, here is the setup:
Inet-RB450G(Firewall)-WRAP/StarOS-CPE-Customer Device (Cisco).
The subnet is 204.62.63.76/30.
RB450G has the subnet defined in the filter rules as chain forward.
The wireless interface on the WRAP has 204.62.63.77 assigned.
The CPE is in bridge mode so its on a private IP.
The Cisco has 204.62.63.78 assigned to ether1.
All with a 255.255.255.252 subnet mask.
I tested with my laptop in place of the router.
One strange item I noticed. I'm running RIP and it does not see the WRAP
with 204.62.63.77 assigned.
Any other ideas?
-RickG

On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 5:13 PM, jree...@18-30chat.net 
jree...@18-30chat.net wrote:

 Routing or firewall setup issues. I pass a /24 and a /8 (NAT) across my
 entire
 network. I use one place of NAT (well a few users still have in house NAT)
 I
 would do traceroutes from and to the end IPs and see where things start to
 look
 wrong.

 RickG wrote:
  OK, I've got a good one. I’m trying to pass public subnets to a couple of
  customers. They worked before I switched them to a new, closer tower.
  Bascially, it will not show the public IP when checking at
  whatismyip.combut rather my firewall ip. Obviuosly, I can get on the
  net with the public
  ip's. What's weird is that it works at my office which is on the same
 tower
  although it is a different access point. However, the AP's are the both
  WRAP/StarOS units. My AP is running 5GHz and the customers is running
  2.4GHz. One other difference is that the customer's CPE is aNS2L and mine
 is
  a NS5. I did try a Tranzeo CPQ as well. The only other difference is that
  the customer is now only one hop from the firewall versus two hops
 before.
  Any thoughts?
 
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Re: [WISPA] UBNT M5 series nanostation

2009-12-18 Thread jaimie
yes I ran into that too

On Fri 12/18/09  2:02 PM , Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com sent:
 I know this is different but I thought it might be of interest. I was just
 playing with an Bullet M2 and couldn't get my Macbook Pro (802.11n capable)
 to connect unless I switched from the default 40MHz channel and use the
 20MHz channel.
 Greg
 On Dec 18, 2009, at 12:52 PM, Data Technology wrote:
 
  I have not used any UBNT M series units yet so I
 have a couple of questions. 
  Is an NS M5 compatible with Mikrotik 802.11N or
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Re: [WISPA] UBNT M5 series nanostation

2009-12-18 Thread jaimie

just dont enable AirMAx as it is Ubnt only TDMA
On Fri 12/18/09 12:38 PM , Data Technology w...@dtisp.com sent:
 Thanks,
 
 
 
 Eje Gustafsson wrote:
  Yes a NSM5 can talk with a MikroTik 11n unit.
 Currently they have some issues with the M5's talking with Legacy
 (802.11a) equipment a new firmware should be forth coming shortly. The latest
 solved a lot of the problems but not completely. 
 
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  I have not used any UBNT M series units yet so I
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  Is an NS M5 compatible with Mikrotik 802.11N or
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Re: [WISPA] public subnet

2009-12-18 Thread jree...@18-30chat.net
Mmmm. bridging CPE, make sure its not proxy arping.

Check your RIP, if its turned on, on both the wrap and Csico, should be seen.

Where is the IP that is doing NAT located, on the RB450? The only way I had that
work correctly was to drop all chain rules and tell NAT to source 10.0.0.0/8
when going out dst interface. I have 2 routers at the core one for BGP  etc
upstream, the other for NAT and in building hand-off (couple lans's and
wireless, then the BH's to the rest of the network + the hotspot).


RickG wrote:
 I agree but traceroutes run perfectly. Just to be clear, here is the setup:
 Inet-RB450G(Firewall)-WRAP/StarOS-CPE-Customer Device (Cisco).
 The subnet is 204.62.63.76/30.
 RB450G has the subnet defined in the filter rules as chain forward.
 The wireless interface on the WRAP has 204.62.63.77 assigned.
 The CPE is in bridge mode so its on a private IP.
 The Cisco has 204.62.63.78 assigned to ether1.
 All with a 255.255.255.252 subnet mask.
 I tested with my laptop in place of the router.
 One strange item I noticed. I'm running RIP and it does not see the WRAP
 with 204.62.63.77 assigned.
 Any other ideas?
 -RickG
 
 On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 5:13 PM, jree...@18-30chat.net 
 jree...@18-30chat.net wrote:
 
 Routing or firewall setup issues. I pass a /24 and a /8 (NAT) across my
 entire
 network. I use one place of NAT (well a few users still have in house NAT)
 I
 would do traceroutes from and to the end IPs and see where things start to
 look
 wrong.

 RickG wrote:
 OK, I've got a good one. I’m trying to pass public subnets to a couple of
 customers. They worked before I switched them to a new, closer tower.
 Bascially, it will not show the public IP when checking at
 whatismyip.combut rather my firewall ip. Obviuosly, I can get on the
 net with the public
 ip's. What's weird is that it works at my office which is on the same
 tower
 although it is a different access point. However, the AP's are the both
 WRAP/StarOS units. My AP is running 5GHz and the customers is running
 2.4GHz. One other difference is that the customer's CPE is aNS2L and mine
 is
 a NS5. I did try a Tranzeo CPQ as well. The only other difference is that
 the customer is now only one hop from the firewall versus two hops
 before.
 Any thoughts?

 -RickG



 
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet2

2009-12-18 Thread Robert West
Rick,

I have never had a Pico apart, don't even own, but I checked with UBNT and
the Pico and the Bullet is the EXACT same hardware on the inside, only
difference is the antenna connector.  My guess is, somehow a Pico board
slipped into the Bullet bin by accident before the antenna connector was put
on.  UBNT could probably give you the step by step to change it but as it
is, it should work perfectly fine at least that's the way it reads on UBNT's
site.

Bob-

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Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 7:16 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet2

Yes, I did flash is with 3.5 for Bullet2 but no help. Therefore, I'm
guessing the Pico ID on the main page must come from the board itself? Now I
wonder if a Pico board will fit into a Bullet? Another strange thing I
noticed was it came from the factory with the the 3.4 beta firmware on it.
I've never seen a manufacturer ship a unit with put beta before. On the good
side, the unit is performing great.

On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Robert West
robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 Must certainly have the wrong firmware from the factory!  Have you tried
to
 flash to the right firmware?  I wonder if it will bounce the Bullet
 firmware
 as being invalid!

 Interesting, Rick.  Let us know, that's not fun.

 Bob-



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Re: [WISPA] UBNT M5 series nanostation

2009-12-18 Thread Philip Dorr
or nstream as that is Mikrotik only

On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 7:36 PM,  jai...@budget.net wrote:

 just dont enable AirMAx as it is Ubnt only TDMA
 On Fri 12/18/09 12:38 PM , Data Technology w...@dtisp.com sent:
 Thanks,



 Eje Gustafsson wrote:
  Yes a NSM5 can talk with a MikroTik 11n unit.
 Currently they have some issues with the M5's talking with Legacy
 (802.11a) equipment a new firmware should be forth coming shortly. The 
 latest
 solved a lot of the problems but not completely.
 
  / Eje
 
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  Subject: [WISPA] UBNT M5 series
 nanostation
  I have not used any UBNT M series units yet so I
 have a couple of questions.
  Is an NS M5 compatible with Mikrotik 802.11N or
 does it have to be used  with the Rocket M basestation?
  Can it be used with Mikrotik 802.11A?
 
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet2

2009-12-18 Thread Philip Dorr
The Bullet boards even say Pico on them.

On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote:
 Rick,

 I have never had a Pico apart, don't even own, but I checked with UBNT and
 the Pico and the Bullet is the EXACT same hardware on the inside, only
 difference is the antenna connector.  My guess is, somehow a Pico board
 slipped into the Bullet bin by accident before the antenna connector was put
 on.  UBNT could probably give you the step by step to change it but as it
 is, it should work perfectly fine at least that's the way it reads on UBNT's
 site.

 Bob-

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 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
 Behalf Of RickG
 Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 7:16 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet2

 Yes, I did flash is with 3.5 for Bullet2 but no help. Therefore, I'm
 guessing the Pico ID on the main page must come from the board itself? Now I
 wonder if a Pico board will fit into a Bullet? Another strange thing I
 noticed was it came from the factory with the the 3.4 beta firmware on it.
 I've never seen a manufacturer ship a unit with put beta before. On the good
 side, the unit is performing great.

 On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Robert West
 robert.w...@just-micro.comwrote:

 Must certainly have the wrong firmware from the factory!  Have you tried
 to
 flash to the right firmware?  I wonder if it will bounce the Bullet
 firmware
 as being invalid!

 Interesting, Rick.  Let us know, that's not fun.

 Bob-



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 Subject: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Bullet2

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Re: [WISPA] UBNT M5 series nanostation

2009-12-18 Thread Greg Ihnen
Didn't have AirMax enabled and still 40MHz channels didn't work. Shouldn't they 
work? Is that what 802.11n is? Anyway, it works with 20MHz channels.

Greg

On Dec 18, 2009, at 8:36 PM, jai...@budget.net wrote:

 
 just dont enable AirMAx as it is Ubnt only TDMA
 On Fri 12/18/09 12:38 PM , Data Technology w...@dtisp.com sent:
 Thanks,
 
 
 
 Eje Gustafsson wrote:
 Yes a NSM5 can talk with a MikroTik 11n unit.
 Currently they have some issues with the M5's talking with Legacy
 (802.11a) equipment a new firmware should be forth coming shortly. The 
 latest
 solved a lot of the problems but not completely. 
 
 / Eje
 
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 Subject: [WISPA] UBNT M5 series
 nanostation
 I have not used any UBNT M series units yet so I
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 Is an NS M5 compatible with Mikrotik 802.11N or
 does it have to be used  with the Rocket M basestation?
 Can it be used with Mikrotik 802.11A?
 
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