Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-21 Thread Chuck Bartosch
So, the salient points are, as I understand it (correct me if I'm wrong): (1) Brian's numbers are 24 million currently HAVE NO ACCESS TO SERVICE. His number DOES NOT INCLUDE the number who have access but have chosen not to subscribe. (2) You haven't seen the underlying data yourself because

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-21 Thread Jeff Broadwick
Actually, from where I'm sitting, it seems like roll-outs have slowed dramatically as people are waiting to see who gets government funding. I've heard Patrick Leary say much the same thing from the radio side. Anyone else seeing this phenomena? Regards, Jeff Jeff Broadwick ImageStream

[WISPA] Broadband Stimulus

2010-01-21 Thread Michael Baird
Not sure if anybody else has posted about receiving funds, we just were informed yesterday that our middle mile funding was approved. Still waiting our our last mile application. http://www.mlive.com/business/west-michigan/index.ssf/2010/01/333_million_federal_grant_to_h.html Regards Michael

Re: [WISPA] Broadband Stimulus

2010-01-21 Thread Brian Webster
Congratulations! Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 9:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Broadband Stimulus Not sure if anybody else has

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-21 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I think so. 24 million just seems to be such a large number when you take into account the well known underreporting of our industry segment (and perhaps others?). It's hard to imagine that all of our hard work thus far has left so many homes untouched. At a lowly 40% take rate and $20 per

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-21 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Our rollouts have slowed but only because demand has dropped off. Those that want broadband have it. OR, they are in VERY expensive to service areas. Places where the current grant programs make absolutely no sense. An example is one I just put in. There is a valley that has just 7 homes in

Re: [WISPA] Wireless Roaming

2010-01-21 Thread Jeremie Chism
Yes data throughput while moving works fine. The trick is to get the settings just right on the backgound search. If you have it searching too much, it cuts it down pretty good. I have seen faster speeds, but that is the average. We are in a high interference area, so the frequency hopper on

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-21 Thread MDK
The cable co and telco and I generally deploy where people say yeah, we'll pay for it. There IS a relationship - a weak one - between not available and don't want it or won't pay for it. That was my take in the first place.And then there's the I haven't gotten there yet number. It seems

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-21 Thread MDK
That would seem to be rational and logical as an observation, prediction, and explanation. -- From: Jeff Broadwick jeffl...@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 5:10 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] From

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-21 Thread MDK
interestingly enough, mine has picked up of late. I think it's the reduced install cost that's driven that. I also had a small time competitor just walk way from his network and I'm scrambling big time trying to fill the gap... but I haven't the money to put up the infrastructure... We're

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-21 Thread Chuck Bartosch
In my 3 county area that I was developing an application for, there were 25,000 households without access to service and in one of those counties I was only covering the lower half of the unserved areas of the county. (And one partially unserved town in the County I live in was counting on a

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-21 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
You've got an area with 25k households close by and you don't have anything in there? No one else has anything there either? That's 2.5 times MORE than my ENTIRE COUNTY has in it! Man I could be making a lot more money if I lived nearly anywhere else! marlon - Original Message -

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-21 Thread Travis Johnson
But anywhere else I don't think your LMR-Antenna would work as well... Travis Microserv Marlon K. Schafer wrote: You've got an area with 25k households close by and you don't have anything in there? No one else has anything there either? That's 2.5 times MORE than my ENTIRE COUNTY has in

[WISPA] EBS Licensing

2010-01-21 Thread Eric Muehleisen
I need some information as to how Clear (Clearwire) is fulfilling their subleasing requirements in the EBS band. The rules state the following: 1. There must be a minimum of 20 hours per 6 MHz channel per week of educational use of EBS spectrum. 2. For analog facilities, EBS licensees must

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-21 Thread Brian Webster
Until you have to deal with the trees and mountains he has too :-) Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 4:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject:

Re: [WISPA] EBS Licensing

2010-01-21 Thread Brian Webster
For digital couldn't they just figure out the capacity of the system, provide 5% of that to any and all educational institutions by giving them guaranteed capacity that adds up to the 5%? Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] EBS Licensing

2010-01-21 Thread Eric Muehleisen
The EBS band consists of 4 6mhz chunks. 5% is around 1mhz. That's easily achievable I guess. I'm more concerned about rule #1. I can't see Clear providing Educational Services to these schools. I smell a loophole somewhere. -Eric On 1/21/2010 4:17 PM, Brian Webster wrote: For digital

Re: [WISPA] EBS Licensing

2010-01-21 Thread Gino Villarini
Isn't the Internet educational? Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Jan 21, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Eric Muehleisen ericm...@gmail.com wrote: The EBS band consists of 4 6mhz chunks. 5% is around 1mhz. That's easily achievable I guess. I'm more concerned about rule #1. I can't see Clear

Re: [WISPA] EBS Licensing

2010-01-21 Thread Eric Muehleisen
I wonder if supplying them with an internet connection fulfills that obligation. -Eric On 1/21/2010 4:30 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: Isn't the Internet educational? Sent from my Motorola Startac... On Jan 21, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Eric Muehleisenericm...@gmail.com wrote: The EBS band

Re: [WISPA] EBS Licensing

2010-01-21 Thread Jerry Richardson
I've leaned alot. I mean, I never know there was such a thing as quadruple D's :-) From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini [...@aeronetpr.com] Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 5:30 PM To: WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] EBS Licensing

2010-01-21 Thread Robert West
It certainly is. This week I learned to get my pants off the ground. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 5:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] EBS

Re: [WISPA] EBS Licensing

2010-01-21 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Or the cash equivlent? I can't wait to see what happens in...oh...6 years or so when these school boards renegotiate the 10 year subleases of this spectrum. Could be an interesting and lucrative time for those districts that are getting peanuts for rent of thier spectrum. ryan On Jan 21,

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-21 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Grin. Mountains or valleys, 2' of dirt is just as bad as 20,000' of dirt in this game! Tough nut to crack, that's for sure. marlon - Original Message - From: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 2:13 PM

Re: [WISPA] EBS Licensing

2010-01-21 Thread Ryan Spott
Heh, I used to be a technology coordinator for a k-12 school district. When I got there they had never used the Internet or email, or anything. After we got a fractional T1 in place (128kbps! WOOT!) I did some inservice training for some teachers. One of them started griping about how the

Re: [WISPA] Broadband Stimulus

2010-01-21 Thread Charles Wu
Congrats Out of curiosity -- was your last mile BIP or BTOP? -Charles -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 8:09 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Broadband Stimulus

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-21 Thread RickG
Yes, I enjoyed it a few years back. Still waiting on the new one! Jack? -RickG On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:59 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Jack wrote and published a book... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-21 Thread RickG
I've picked up since before Christmas. From what I can tell most are taking college classes from home. -RickG On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Jeff Broadwick jeffl...@comcast.netwrote: Actually, from where I'm sitting, it seems like roll-outs have slowed dramatically as people are waiting to

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-21 Thread RickG
There are a lot of counties in eastern Kentucky that have way too many mountains trees for me. They've begged for us to come out there but I'm not up to that task! -RickG On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: I think so. 24 million just seems to be

[WISPA] Spectrum Analyzer Recommendation?

2010-01-21 Thread Steven G McGehee
Hi all, Was wondering if any of you have owned or used a spectrum analyzer for common WISP frequencies like 3.3-3.8Ghz, 5Ghz, as well as 11, 18, 23, and 24Ghz. I'm primarily interested in 3.3-3.8Ghz and the complete 5Ghz range. Something that could analyze as low as 900Mhz and as high as the

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-21 Thread Jack Unger
I think my new "book" will actually be online training videos. RickG wrote: Yes, I enjoyed it a few years back. Still waiting on the new one! Jack? -RickG On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:59 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Jack wrote and published a book... Josh

Re: [WISPA] From Today's WSJ

2010-01-21 Thread Chuck Bartosch
The counties out here are apparently a lot bigger than your counties. One of the counties we have service in (but not one of the counties I was looking at for this grant) is 18% bigger than the State of Rhode Island. Chuck On Jan 21, 2010, at 4:54 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: You've got an