Re: [WISPA] [SPAM-URL-BL] Where is Jack Rickard?
No, I'm Jack Rickard. -- Original Message -- From: John Scrivner j...@scrivner.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 00:20:56 -0600 I have had the pleasure of staying in touch with Jack Rickard, the founder of Boardwatch Magazine and ISPCON, over the last few years. His new passion these days is building electric cars and reporting on his progress on the technology. It obviously has nothing to do with wireless but many of you probably followed Jack for years through the early days of the Internet and I thought you might want to watch some video of his latest projects. This is better than anything shown on History, Discover and the Learning Channel combined. If you do not watch anything else make sure you watch his test drive videos of his electric Porsche. The discussions he shares are even more fascinating than the car itself. Sorry for the off topic post. For many of you I think you will agree that it is worth going off base a little. http://www.youtube.com/user/marionRickard John Scrivner WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Where is Jack Rickard?
He's a good guy he is Very cool stuff. I loved the part about the led lights. If only the prices of them would come down out of the clouds! marlon - Original Message - From: John Scrivner j...@scrivner.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 10:20 PM Subject: [WISPA] Where is Jack Rickard? I have had the pleasure of staying in touch with Jack Rickard, the founder of Boardwatch Magazine and ISPCON, over the last few years. His new passion these days is building electric cars and reporting on his progress on the technology. It obviously has nothing to do with wireless but many of you probably followed Jack for years through the early days of the Internet and I thought you might want to watch some video of his latest projects. This is better than anything shown on History, Discover and the Learning Channel combined. If you do not watch anything else make sure you watch his test drive videos of his electric Porsche. The discussions he shares are even more fascinating than the car itself. Sorry for the off topic post. For many of you I think you will agree that it is worth going off base a little. http://www.youtube.com/user/marionRickard John Scrivner WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [SPAM-URL-BL] Where is Jack Rickard?
LOL. I remember that! Will the real Stuart Pierce please stand up! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Mike Delp miked...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 09:19:34 To: spie...@avolve.net; WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] [SPAM-URL-BL] Where is Jack Rickard? If I remember that week, he was Stuart Pierce. So was everyone else. :) Mike On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net wrote: No, I'm Jack Rickard. -- Original Message -- From: John Scrivner j...@scrivner.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 00:20:56 -0600 I have had the pleasure of staying in touch with Jack Rickard, the founder of Boardwatch Magazine and ISPCON, over the last few years. His new passion these days is building electric cars and reporting on his progress on the technology. It obviously has nothing to do with wireless but many of you probably followed Jack for years through the early days of the Internet and I thought you might want to watch some video of his latest projects. This is better than anything shown on History, Discover and the Learning Channel combined. If you do not watch anything else make sure you watch his test drive videos of his electric Porsche. The discussions he shares are even more fascinating than the car itself. Sorry for the off topic post. For many of you I think you will agree that it is worth going off base a little. http://www.youtube.com/user/marionRickard John Scrivner WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [SPAM-URL-BL] Where is Jack Rickard?
I'm trying to find some pictures of those shirts, but I can't seem to find any. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 8:43 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] [SPAM-URL-BL] Where is Jack Rickard? No, I'm Jack Rickard. -- Original Message -- From: John Scrivner j...@scrivner.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 00:20:56 -0600 I have had the pleasure of staying in touch with Jack Rickard, the founder of Boardwatch Magazine and ISPCON, over the last few years. His new passion these days is building electric cars and reporting on his progress on the technology. It obviously has nothing to do with wireless but many of you probably followed Jack for years through the early days of the Internet and I thought you might want to watch some video of his latest projects. This is better than anything shown on History, Discover and the Learning Channel combined. If you do not watch anything else make sure you watch his test drive videos of his electric Porsche. The discussions he shares are even more fascinating than the car itself. Sorry for the off topic post. For many of you I think you will agree that it is worth going off base a little. http://www.youtube.com/user/marionRickard John Scrivner WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [SPAM-URL-BL] Where is Jack Rickard?
No, *I'M* Jack Rickard! roflmao Stuart, you kill me. hehehehe Inside joke from an old WISPcon. Boy do I miss those layed back shows! marlon - Original Message - From: Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 6:43 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] [SPAM-URL-BL] Where is Jack Rickard? No, I'm Jack Rickard. -- Original Message -- From: John Scrivner j...@scrivner.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 00:20:56 -0600 I have had the pleasure of staying in touch with Jack Rickard, the founder of Boardwatch Magazine and ISPCON, over the last few years. His new passion these days is building electric cars and reporting on his progress on the technology. It obviously has nothing to do with wireless but many of you probably followed Jack for years through the early days of the Internet and I thought you might want to watch some video of his latest projects. This is better than anything shown on History, Discover and the Learning Channel combined. If you do not watch anything else make sure you watch his test drive videos of his electric Porsche. The discussions he shares are even more fascinating than the car itself. Sorry for the off topic post. For many of you I think you will agree that it is worth going off base a little. http://www.youtube.com/user/marionRickard John Scrivner WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Help...Freeside malfuction
Anyone that uses freeside, does anyone know of a way to MASS unsuspend customers? system FUBARD last night and I've got a few thousand suspended accounts right now.. -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Help...Freeside malfuction
No knowledge of Freeside but try looking in the database and change some values. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Ryan Ghering rgher...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone that uses freeside, does anyone know of a way to MASS unsuspend customers? system FUBARD last night and I've got a few thousand suspended accounts right now.. -- Ryan Ghering Network Operations - Plains.Net Office: 970-848-0475 - Cell: 970-630-1879 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Network Maps
Since some of you don't seem to be aware of what's around you, I have included the following link. I indirectly came across this page today (I believe through Peter's Twitter) and I believe it's the best compilation of network maps throughout the US and around the world. www.telecomramblings.com/network-maps/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Where is Jack Rickard?
Yeah, the price for electric cars still overides the gas savings in most cases. It will come down eventually, after the hype is over and RD is paid for. But they say the same thing about WiMax technology. I wonder which will become affordable first? :-) But .. I'm a big fan of electric cars innovation because it promotes lighter smaller cars. I've always been a fan of the lighter sports car models, like Italian Sports cars. In my 20s, I used to joke around that my little Fiat X-19s was so light it could probably run on batteries, and that the targa top should have been made of solar panels. (PS, my gas guage was broken at the time, so I occasionally ran out of gas, and got caught having to push my car for a mile or two to the nearest gas station, which was quicker than waiting for someone to bring me a gas can). Go figure, 15 years later they are actually making electric sports cars. (well actually, they were making them way earlier, but the super conductivity, battery technology, and schience of electrical efficiency was not as advanced). The big problem I see is, What are they going to do with all the batteries that wear out? It could be Enviroment Hazmat HelX. Anyways, John, thanks for posting the link, it was an enjoyable listen. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Where is Jack Rickard? He's a good guy he is Very cool stuff. I loved the part about the led lights. If only the prices of them would come down out of the clouds! marlon - Original Message - From: John Scrivner j...@scrivner.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 10:20 PM Subject: [WISPA] Where is Jack Rickard? I have had the pleasure of staying in touch with Jack Rickard, the founder of Boardwatch Magazine and ISPCON, over the last few years. His new passion these days is building electric cars and reporting on his progress on the technology. It obviously has nothing to do with wireless but many of you probably followed Jack for years through the early days of the Internet and I thought you might want to watch some video of his latest projects. This is better than anything shown on History, Discover and the Learning Channel combined. If you do not watch anything else make sure you watch his test drive videos of his electric Porsche. The discussions he shares are even more fascinating than the car itself. Sorry for the off topic post. For many of you I think you will agree that it is worth going off base a little. http://www.youtube.com/user/marionRickard John Scrivner WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Where is Jack Rickard?
Talking about Electric Cars and ISPs. There was another major Dot.Com guy that got heavilly into Electric cars. I just saw it on Discovery Channel not to long ago. It was like one of those Google, Yahoo, Utube, Facebook (after they cashed out) type of people. For the life of me, I cant remember who it was. Any one see the show and remember? I think his project lost a small fortune the first phase, but still alive. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: John Scrivner j...@scrivner.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 1:20 AM Subject: [WISPA] Where is Jack Rickard? I have had the pleasure of staying in touch with Jack Rickard, the founder of Boardwatch Magazine and ISPCON, over the last few years. His new passion these days is building electric cars and reporting on his progress on the technology. It obviously has nothing to do with wireless but many of you probably followed Jack for years through the early days of the Internet and I thought you might want to watch some video of his latest projects. This is better than anything shown on History, Discover and the Learning Channel combined. If you do not watch anything else make sure you watch his test drive videos of his electric Porsche. The discussions he shares are even more fascinating than the car itself. Sorry for the off topic post. For many of you I think you will agree that it is worth going off base a little. http://www.youtube.com/user/marionRickard John Scrivner WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Maps
Here is another option. http://www.indatelgroup.org We are a part of MNA (Missouri Network Alliance) Indatel focuses on rural markets. Brent A Havens Internet and Data Services Supervisor Mark Twain Rural Telephone Company Mark Twain Communications Company (660) 423-5211 (660) 341-6221 bhav...@marktwain.coop Hwy 6 East P.O. Box 68 Hurdland, Missouri 63547 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 1:02 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Network Maps Since some of you don't seem to be aware of what's around you, I have included the following link. I indirectly came across this page today (I believe through Peter's Twitter) and I believe it's the best compilation of network maps throughout the US and around the world. www.telecomramblings.com/network-maps/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Maps
Yeah, I can never find their web site. I'll admit, though, that a lot of these networks are ILEC\RLEC networks and are really the networks people are trying to avoid because of their high prices. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Brent A Havens bhav...@marktwain.coop Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 2:21 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Network Maps Here is another option. http://www.indatelgroup.org We are a part of MNA (Missouri Network Alliance) Indatel focuses on rural markets. Brent A Havens Internet and Data Services Supervisor Mark Twain Rural Telephone Company Mark Twain Communications Company (660) 423-5211 (660) 341-6221 bhav...@marktwain.coop Hwy 6 East P.O. Box 68 Hurdland, Missouri 63547 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 1:02 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Network Maps Since some of you don't seem to be aware of what's around you, I have included the following link. I indirectly came across this page today (I believe through Peter's Twitter) and I believe it's the best compilation of network maps throughout the US and around the world. www.telecomramblings.com/network-maps/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Where is Jack Rickard?
Elon Musk, PayPal co-founder BIG investor in SpaceX and Tesla Motors Aaron D. Osgood Streamline Solutions L.L.C P.O. Box 6115 Falmouth, ME 04105 TEL: 207-781-5561 FAX: 615-704-8067 MOBILE: 207-831-5829 aosg...@streamline-solutions.net http://www.streamline-solutions.net Introducing Efficiency to Business since 1986. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 3:21 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Where is Jack Rickard? Talking about Electric Cars and ISPs. There was another major Dot.Com guy that got heavilly into Electric cars. I just saw it on Discovery Channel not to long ago. It was like one of those Google, Yahoo, Utube, Facebook (after they cashed out) type of people. For the life of me, I cant remember who it was. Any one see the show and remember? I think his project lost a small fortune the first phase, but still alive. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: John Scrivner j...@scrivner.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 1:20 AM Subject: [WISPA] Where is Jack Rickard? I have had the pleasure of staying in touch with Jack Rickard, the founder of Boardwatch Magazine and ISPCON, over the last few years. His new passion these days is building electric cars and reporting on his progress on the technology. It obviously has nothing to do with wireless but many of you probably followed Jack for years through the early days of the Internet and I thought you might want to watch some video of his latest projects. This is better than anything shown on History, Discover and the Learning Channel combined. If you do not watch anything else make sure you watch his test drive videos of his electric Porsche. The discussions he shares are even more fascinating than the car itself. Sorry for the off topic post. For many of you I think you will agree that it is worth going off base a little. http://www.youtube.com/user/marionRickard John Scrivner WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Network Maps
I've come across that one before but I found, at least in my case, that the best place for a fiber map is our county engineers office. They have to have maps of all utility installs since they take care of ditch cleanout and such. You just have to talk them into letting you see them. Bob- -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 2:02 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Network Maps Since some of you don't seem to be aware of what's around you, I have included the following link. I indirectly came across this page today (I believe through Peter's Twitter) and I believe it's the best compilation of network maps throughout the US and around the world. www.telecomramblings.com/network-maps/ - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo
Strangely, our experience was the opposite, Hurricane Electric wanted about $500 more per month for 100 meg and a cabinet than our reseller did. John Andy Trimmell wrote: Resellers are a little bit more expensive actually and all of them don't have fiber already ran. It's ridiculous the cost we pay. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Thomas Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 9:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo We buy ours through a reseller, and they have quoted us $1000/month for Gig at Hurricane Electric in Fremont CA. John Mike Hammett wrote: I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if GigE connections were under $1 now. I know a couple companies were at $1. Bandwidth pricing is the inverse of real estate pricing. Downtown Chicago, a sq.ft. of land could buy you hundreds of acres in Montana. A single meg in Montana could buy you hundreds of megs (or a couple gigs) in Chicago. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Andy Trimmell atrimm...@precisionds.com Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 2:20 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo 50Mbit for $450 a month isn't bad for a pipe to ATT. We're paying 10x that from ATT right now. $0.90? come on give me a break. If that's possible then we should sue ATT for highway robbery. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 1:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Did you mean $9/meg or $0.90/meg? $9/meg isn't much to write home about. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 11:48 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Yup. If you are at an on-net building you can get it even cheaper. One client is buying for $9 a meg in bulk in Chicago. Their biggest hurdle are peering agreements with the big boys. The ATt¹s of the world are sort of tolerating them at the moment until they can figure out what to do. They tried de-peering with them a few years ago and there was an outcry. Lots of web-sites are hosted on cogent bandwidth. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net CCNA CCNT Mikrotik Advanced http://www.mtin.net - Homepage http://www.mtin.net/blog - Technical Blog XISP solutions Hosting Consulting Tower Climbing From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:33:16 -0500 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo I hear $1500 for a gig! On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: I wish I was a bit closer to a POP to take advantage of it, but my Cogent rep informed me that through the end of the month, they have a promo going $400/100 megabit 1 year contract. Only available at Cogent and carrier neutral data centers. These facilities are listed on their web site under the network heading. A complete building list (and not eligible for this promo) is available in the service locator under Dedicated Internet access. Not all of their host buildings allow roof access, but I believe a significant number of them do. I encourage you to build your network out to these facilities. Sure, someone's going to hop on here and complain about how horrible Cogent is, but every carrier has their good and bad spots. I'm sure I could find someone to honestly say the same things about ATT, VZB, Level3, InterNAP, XO, MZima, etc., etc. It doesn't matter the carrier, I strongly encourage you to have more than one. Feel free to blast the list with questions about building your network to Cogent, routing policies to best combine Cogent and your existing provider, etc. These things would apply to any carrier, not just Cogent. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo
Kinda sounds like a WISP, eh? As long as they aren't overselling it to the point quality suffers, who cares? We had to work at just doing a speed test on our 100 meg connection as most of the servers couldn't do 100 meg up and 100 meg down. We finally were able to do a ftp and get 95 meg/95 meg to verify that it was working as advertised. I still smile when I can do traceroutes to cities miles away and have all the hops at 1 ms, or less when using Linux. John Justin Wilson wrote: Plus they want to oversell this cheap bandwidth. They don¹t want you to max out that Gig circuit. Allows them to oversell their bandwidth that much more. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] 3.65 options for PtP
I need to do a lot (20+) very short distance links in a medium sized city that has a highly RF polluted environment. 5.x GHz isn't an option. Is there a CERTIFIED product that uses the Ubiquiti 3.65 card that would give me some reasonably priced bridges? I don't know if there is anything else in that price range, and it looks like most other 3.65 links are going to cost 1500.00+ Ralph WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] omni upside down
We have mounted omnis upside down because an omni pattern tends to radiate from the base of the antenna upward. By turning the antenna upside down, it becomes slight better at receiving and sending. That, and Cisco 1500's make it easy to do... John RickG wrote: Thanks! Is there any advantage for a WISP to do this? -RickG On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com wrote: Those are more than likely cell phone sites that have those big whip antennas going up and down (believe they are 800Mhz frequency range systems) My understanding it has one out of two reasons why they are built like that. Antenna diversion or increased base station density. Have one not too far from me that has a crown with a total of 6 omni's. 3 up and 3 down, mounted on a triangular crown. Those omnis are massive and my guess are they are at least 10-15 feet it's hard to tell because the access road is blocked and I never walked down to get close enough to compare to the tower leg joints. / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] omni upside down While traveling around, I've noticed a few towers with omnis mounted upside down with a neighbor omni mounted right side up. Whats the purpose in this? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo
The best way to test bandwidth is to use simple tools like iPerf. Techs should load iPerf on their laptops as well. Iperf was developed by NLANR/DAST as a modern alternative for measuring maximum TCP and UDP bandwidth performance. Iperf allows the tuning of various parameters and UDP characteristics. Iperf reports bandwidth, delay jitter, datagram loss. http://sourceforge.net/projects/iperf/ _ Glenn Kelley | Principle | HostMedic |www.HostMedic.com Email: gl...@hostmedic.com Pplease don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. On Jan 29, 2010, at 5:59 PM, John Thomas wrote: Kinda sounds like a WISP, eh? As long as they aren't overselling it to the point quality suffers, who cares? We had to work at just doing a speed test on our 100 meg connection as most of the servers couldn't do 100 meg up and 100 meg down. We finally were able to do a ftp and get 95 meg/95 meg to verify that it was working as advertised. I still smile when I can do traceroutes to cities miles away and have all the hops at 1 ms, or less when using Linux. John Justin Wilson wrote: Plus they want to oversell this cheap bandwidth. They don¹t want you to max out that Gig circuit. Allows them to oversell their bandwidth that much more. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole?
Only problem with those is that they are V E R Y light duty. Like for a small 5.8 panel or a Nanostation. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Scott Parsons Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:40 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole? http://www.fab-corp.com/product.php?productid=2896cat=0page=1 One of these might do the trick. Scott -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of AJ Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:50 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Side Mount to Wooden Utility Pole? Anyone have any detailed photos or ideas for side mounting to a wooden utility pole? We have a site that will only allow side mounting at about 35' AGL on a wooden utility pole. I considered building a stand off bracket out of Unistrut and mounting it directly through the hole with galvanized hardware but it seems a bit overkill for a single omni. Thanks! WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] AirGrids
Installing some UBNT AirGrids this weekend. First thing I see is that when I assemble for horizontal polarity the LED strip is now facing UP, as in looking at the sky. Not able to see the power light from the ground or any RSSI. Second issue, we all know the water issue with the new bullets, getting in through the LED strip. In horizontal, the strip is facing up. Makes more sense to face it all down. I also see a need to wrap with tape where the feed and the feed support meet. Just first impressions. Bob- Just Micro.NET WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] omni upside down
Which antenna did you use? -RickG On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 6:03 PM, John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com wrote: We have mounted omnis upside down because an omni pattern tends to radiate from the base of the antenna upward. By turning the antenna upside down, it becomes slight better at receiving and sending. That, and Cisco 1500's make it easy to do... John RickG wrote: Thanks! Is there any advantage for a WISP to do this? -RickG On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Eje Gustafsson e...@wisp-router.com wrote: Those are more than likely cell phone sites that have those big whip antennas going up and down (believe they are 800Mhz frequency range systems) My understanding it has one out of two reasons why they are built like that. Antenna diversion or increased base station density. Have one not too far from me that has a crown with a total of 6 omni's. 3 up and 3 down, mounted on a triangular crown. Those omnis are massive and my guess are they are at least 10-15 feet it's hard to tell because the access road is blocked and I never walked down to get close enough to compare to the tower leg joints. / Eje -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2010 2:55 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] omni upside down While traveling around, I've noticed a few towers with omnis mounted upside down with a neighbor omni mounted right side up. Whats the purpose in this? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 3.65 options for PtP
Absolutely. Your choice of WAR boards, running Star-OS, inside of the Arc Wireless universal enclosure, attached to an 18 db arc wireless panel. That IS the certified antenna, and the FCC happily accepts licensing these links (I know by experience). Total cost for both ends varies from almost exactly 800 to nearly 1100 depending on how you mount, which cpu board you use, etc, etc.The WAR 1 board is only sufficient for about 800 - 900KB throughput, whereupon the latency begins to climb.Higher power cpu's will give you more throughput.I don't know the precise maximum throughput under ideal conditions. -- From: rwf r...@bsrg.org Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 3:01 PM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] 3.65 options for PtP I need to do a lot (20+) very short distance links in a medium sized city that has a highly RF polluted environment. 5.x GHz isn't an option. Is there a CERTIFIED product that uses the Ubiquiti 3.65 card that would give me some reasonably priced bridges? I don't know if there is anything else in that price range, and it looks like most other 3.65 links are going to cost 1500.00+ Ralph WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo
I want my provider to have no oversubscription within the metro area. Gear is too cheap not to. Beyond the metro, I expect oversubscription, but I also expect excellent performance. They can usually dump the traffic off to someone else within the metro, so they don't need 1:1 leaving the city. However, with more than more customers ordering several 10GigE interfaces, the longhaul is getting full. http://www.att.com/Common/merger/files/pdf/wired-network/Domestic_0C-768_Network.pdf This is obviously an old map, but according to it, ATT had 9x 40Gig connections out of Chicago as of 2008, in addition to all of their other longhaul circuits. Verizon started using 100Gig links in production networks last month. http://newscenter.verizon.com/press-releases/verizon/2009/verizon-deploys-commercial.html One web host has 160 gigs of outside connectivity in Chicago alone. Enough of my rambling... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 4:59 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Promo Kinda sounds like a WISP, eh? As long as they aren't overselling it to the point quality suffers, who cares? We had to work at just doing a speed test on our 100 meg connection as most of the servers couldn't do 100 meg up and 100 meg down. We finally were able to do a ftp and get 95 meg/95 meg to verify that it was working as advertised. I still smile when I can do traceroutes to cities miles away and have all the hops at 1 ms, or less when using Linux. John Justin Wilson wrote: Plus they want to oversell this cheap bandwidth. They don¹t want you to max out that Gig circuit. Allows them to oversell their bandwidth that much more. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
