Re: [WISPA] State Education Networks?

2010-03-12 Thread Kevin Owen
Interesting, do you have a link to any information about the State Ed network? Sounds like one I should chase down. Are you a CLEC or any other such entity or like me, a WISP that has built their business by providing quality service to rural parts of the State? Kevin -Original

Re: [WISPA] State Education Networks?

2010-03-12 Thread Kevin Owen
Have you ever been able to compare your pricing to that of their commercial network? My pricing is easily 50% of Qwest's inflated pricing. Kevin -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tim Sylvester Sent: Thursday, March

Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

2010-03-12 Thread Chuck Bartosch
Yeah, I haven't found tethering to make all that much sense either. My gf has her iPhone jail broken, but honestly, I think she does it just because she can...I haven't seen her do anything with it that actually mattered. I haven't had a problem doing anything I needed (or wanted) to do without

Re: [WISPA] State Education Networks?

2010-03-12 Thread Jack Unger
Kevin, Thanks for that link. It looks like you are being heard. I would say "keep it up" - keep meeting with those legislators. Meeting with local reporters and emphasizing the cost (and cost-savings) angle should be a powerful argument in your favor. jack Kevin Owen wrote: Hi Jack,

Re: [WISPA] FCC Enforcements

2010-03-12 Thread Blair Davis
A thing to note... All these enforcement actions were taken because of interference with licensed users Lessons I get from them... 1) Stay off the 5.4GHz band 2) Keep your EIRP down 3) Check your installations for out of band emissions. Leon D. Zetekoff wrote: Was going through recent

Re: [WISPA] Indoor IP Video Camera Recommendation (way off topic)

2010-03-12 Thread Tom Sharples
We love the product, and use it whenever we have the choice. They've been very reliable. The only missing aspect is that they don't have a mechanical PTZ camera, so you're limited to maybe 5X zoom before you start to see degradation. But the wireless-friendly compression system, megapixel

Re: [WISPA] Indoor IP Video Camera Recommendation (way off topic)

2010-03-12 Thread Stuart Pierce
Mobotix ? -- Original Message -- From: Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:12:10 -0500 On 11 March 2010 23:08, Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com wrote: I usually use IQEye

Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

2010-03-12 Thread Dylan Bouterse
Other than being able to put paid apps on a jailbroken iPhone, my favorite app is Backgrounder. It comes in handy soo much. If you don't know what it does, you hold the home button when you're in an app and it puts the app in the background so it will keep running. To actually quite the app you go

Re: [WISPA] State Education Networks?

2010-03-12 Thread Mike Hammett
www.illinois.net I am just a regular rural WISP, nothing fancy. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Kevin Owen ko...@fsr.com Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 12:26 AM To: WISPA General List

Re: [WISPA] FCC Enforcements

2010-03-12 Thread jp
The moto problem in San Juan was gear that was probably tampered with to operate outside it's intended band. That's what got them in trouble. If it were the right equipment for the job, the operator could have fixed it to play nicer. On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 03:25:45AM -0500, Blair Davis wrote:

Re: [WISPA] FW: The FCC Wants You to Test Your Broadband Speeds

2010-03-12 Thread Mike Hammett
It works just fine in Chrome. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 2:10 PM To: aosg...@streamline-solutions.net; WISPA General

Re: [WISPA] Indoor IP Video Camera Recommendation (way off topic)

2010-03-12 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
www.inscapedata.com marlon - Original Message - From: Scott Carullo sc...@brevardwireless.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 8:08 PM Subject: [WISPA] Indoor IP Video Camera Recommendation (way off topic) I usually use IQEye Outdoor Sentry cameras... they are

Re: [WISPA] State Education Networks?

2010-03-12 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
What does your local congressman have to say about this? marlon - Original Message - From: Kevin Owen ko...@fsr.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 8:17 PM Subject: [WISPA] State Education Networks? The State I provide service in (Idaho) is in

Re: [WISPA] HD Video across Wireless?

2010-03-12 Thread Israel Lopez-LISTS
How many HD Channels? 720p, 1080i? Is there coax running through the community? Just as a thought exercise, I may get a few HD ATSC Hardware Cards, some hefty boxes, and use VLC to convert the video into a multicast stream, bridge it across the lake/valley, and reconstitute it into something

Re: [WISPA] State Education Networks?

2010-03-12 Thread Kevin Owen
Marlon, I assume you are asking that question of me. While I can't speak for my State representatives, they have been very engaged in the discussion and are asking some difficult questions of the State Admin / IT. It isn't yet clear what if anything can be done about this now, but it appears

Re: [WISPA] State Education Networks?

2010-03-12 Thread Israel Lopez-LISTS
I had the chance to befriend a high-school IT guy (Quite stellar IT guy too), and I learned a lot from the processes there. The education system in CA will historically go for Wired/Fiber based plants. Usually due to FUD, about security, reliability, blah blah blah. I hope you can get them

Re: [WISPA] FW: The FCC Wants You to Test Your Broadband Speeds

2010-03-12 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Hmmm, Didn't the site specifically say that it wouldn't? marlon - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 7:09 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FW: The FCC Wants You to Test Your Broadband Speeds It

Re: [WISPA] State Education Networks?

2010-03-12 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
As it should be. Someone needs to check out the kind of house the IT guy lives in and what kind of car he has :-). Something here stinks to high heaven. Perhaps the telco hired a hooker for him and has pictures? grin Things that go down like this always make my blood boil. The SOB's sure

Re: [WISPA] State Education Networks?

2010-03-12 Thread jp
We don't, but were involved in the most recent in Maine. Back quite a while ago, when the network was first built, the BELL LEC (I don't rember what name they went by that year), was fined $20 million for overcharging rate payers. Instead of paying the fine, they suggested the state should

Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

2010-03-12 Thread Jerry Richardson
how do you access the shell? do I need to jailbreak ? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 11, 2010, at 1:58 PM, Sales sa...@michianawireless.com wrote: Hmm I just goto my iPhones command line via shell and type ssh ipaddress works like a charm. John Buwa Michiana Wireless,Inc 574-233-7170 Sent

Re: [WISPA] State Education Networks?

2010-03-12 Thread Steve Barnes
In Indiana it's even more interesting. The state bid out control of the state networks years ago and a Tennessee Company ENA.com won and now controls all the public school network funding. We have 5 School corp.'s in the county and I have networks towers within a mile from each. But since I

Re: [WISPA] State Education Networks?

2010-03-12 Thread Kevin Owen
Funny thing, ENA is the company out here that is partnered with Qwest to provide the management and ERATE funding applications. They are getting a fixed $1,047/school/month for their services. That is going to total ~$1.5million/year for management. Unbelievable. I think Qwest and ENA

Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

2010-03-12 Thread Mike Hammett
Heck, I tethered my Nextel 6 years ago! I'm really disappointed my current phone won't tether as my last did. I sure hope my next one can... 3G\4G HTC Android based. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [WISPA] FW: The FCC Wants You to Test Your Broadband Speeds

2010-03-12 Thread Mike Hammett
I didn't read it, I immediately saw the test here button and clicked it. No time to read all of their crap. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent:

Re: [WISPA] FW: The FCC Wants You to Test Your Broadband Speeds

2010-03-12 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
...Goals include 100 million Americans with 100 Mbps service by 2010... WTF Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett

Re: [WISPA] FW: The FCC Wants You to Test Your Broadband Speeds

2010-03-12 Thread Mike Hammett
Typo... it's 2020. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 10:32 AM To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] FW:

Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

2010-03-12 Thread Josh Luthman
Jerry, Yes you need to jailbreak. Jailbreaking basically gives you access to the underlying OS rather then being tied to the pretty skined app on top of it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not

Re: [WISPA] iPhone ssh app

2010-03-12 Thread Chuck Profito
I have found that using the app Mocha VNC, is much easier than using the others I have tried. just VNC back to your computer and or server and you have ALL your tools. But if the back haul is dead, net book / lap top time. But I do find I very seldom pull them out. Chuck -Original

Re: [WISPA] Ethernet LEDs

2010-03-12 Thread Cameron Crum
We hadn't really planned on it, because the cost is a bit high for what it does. We just have the boards printed and attach components ourselves. Total cost of each board is roughly $150 when it is all said and done, mostly because everything is small quantity. We use them on every tower

Re: [WISPA] HD Video across Wireless?

2010-03-12 Thread AJ
At this point, there are a total of (6) ATSC carriers we're trying to pull down in 1080i. Once they're over on the other side of the lake, we can use narrowcast transmitters back from our old headend site back to the new headend where it can be distributed across fiber to the nodes then coax back

Re: [WISPA] FCC Enforcements

2010-03-12 Thread RickG
Sorry to hijack thread but hey its Friday :) First picture is cool - http://www.foxnews.com/slideshow/scitech/2010/03/10/eyepoppers-best-science-photos-week?loomia_ow=t0:s0:a4:g4:r4:c0.00:b0:z5 -RickG On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com wrote: And

Re: [WISPA] FW: The FCC Wants You to Test Your Broadband Speeds

2010-03-12 Thread RickG
WTF=What the Fankhauser :) On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: ...Goals include 100 million Americans with 100 Mbps service by 2010... WTF Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original

Re: [WISPA] FCC Enforcements

2010-03-12 Thread Nathan Stooke
Hello, So in those areas they want no 5.2 or 5.4 at all or only in the already blocked out part of the 5.4 band? Thanks -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 9:53

[WISPA] here it come$

2010-03-12 Thread RickG
The television content providers are going to bill ISP's? Try using ESPN Live 360 and see what it tells you. -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] FCC Enforcements

2010-03-12 Thread Jack Unger
The FAA and NTIA want all outdoor operators to 1) verify if within 35 km, 2) if within 35 km, register your equipment and contact information in a (voluntary) database so they know who to contact if there is an interference problem, and 3) use channels that are more than 30 MHz away from the

Re: [WISPA] FCC Enforcements

2010-03-12 Thread Dylan Bouterse
One of the reports said 5.61GHz but I'd rather not assume that's what they all operate at. Is there a way to find out or somebody to contact? Dylan From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 2:00 PM To:

Re: [WISPA] FCC Enforcements

2010-03-12 Thread Eric Rogers
Jack, Who do I contact to get on the list? I am like 5 miles from one of the TDWR radar sites. We are using Motorola 5.4 with 9.5 so it supposedly has more updated signatures. I would rather get on the list voluntarily than they find me. Eric From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] FCC Enforcements

2010-03-12 Thread Jack Unger
The TDWR (Terminal Doppler Weather Radars) operate between 5600 and 5650. Dylan Bouterse wrote: One of the reports said 5.61GHz but I'd rather not assume that's what they all operate at. Is there a way to find out or somebody to contact? Dylan From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org

Re: [WISPA] here it come$

2010-03-12 Thread Larry Yunker
RANT Gee, now this (ESPN Live 360) won't make the Cable-Op internet providers have an unfair advantage over traditional ISPs! You have to imagine that the cable-op's are negotiating this internet service into their network programming agreements with EPSN, whereas if you are a non-cable-op you

Re: [WISPA] FCC Enforcements

2010-03-12 Thread Dylan Bouterse
All clear! Thanks. :) Dylan -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 2:30 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Enforcements The TDWR (Terminal Doppler Weather Radars)

Re: [WISPA] FCC Enforcements

2010-03-12 Thread Jack Unger
Eric, That is a very responsible position to take. The database doesn't exist yet. Final definition and creation of it is being worked on right now by the Industry Group (Motorola, Cisco, Atheros, Intel, WISPA and others). WISPA and the FCC Committee will be helping with industry outreach and

Re: [WISPA] here it come$

2010-03-12 Thread jp
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 02:38:44PM -0500, Larry Yunker wrote: RANT Gee, now this (ESPN Live 360) won't make the Cable-Op internet providers have an unfair advantage over traditional ISPs! You have to imagine that the cable-op's are negotiating this internet service into their network

Re: [WISPA] HD Video across Wireless?

2010-03-12 Thread Israel Lopez-LISTS
Well, This looks promising, I did a google search for ATSC to IP. http://www.computermodules.com/broadcast-systems/8VSB-ATSC-to-IP.html -Israel AJ wrote: At this point, there are a total of (6) ATSC carriers we're trying to pull down in 1080i. Once they're over on the other side of the

Re: [WISPA] HD Video across Wireless?

2010-03-12 Thread AJ
Now we're cooking with butter :) I sent off a contact request to them - a bit late for a Friday afternoon but hopefully I'll hear back from them sometime next week... I did take a look at the K-Flex products - ATSC in/ASI and/or GigE out... But at a cost of about 3k per device (which means I

Re: [WISPA] here it come$

2010-03-12 Thread Tim Sylvester
I'm confused by this message. Are you saying you just heard of ESPN360? It has been around since 2007. How much do you think big bad ESPN charges for ESPN360? I have seen estimates between $0.05/sub/month to $0.25/sub/month. As far as I can tell, any ISP can contact ESPN and sign-up to offer

Re: [WISPA] here it come$

2010-03-12 Thread Mike Hammett
Oh, don't suggest that! Every time someone suggests WISPA do some collective bargaining, someone cries that isn't what WISPA does... but no valid reason why it can't. Yes, I cry every time that WISPA should. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [WISPA] here it come$

2010-03-12 Thread Ryan Spott
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/1984/picture3vs8.png And that is all I have to say about that... ryan On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.netwrote: Oh, don't suggest that! Every time someone suggests WISPA do some collective bargaining, someone cries that

Re: [WISPA] here it come$

2010-03-12 Thread Jason Bailey
sad,but it reminds me of the post bb days,and from a wisp standpoint..i can appreciate it! --- On Fri, 3/12/10, Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote: From: Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] here it come$ To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Friday, March 12, 2010, 9:13

Re: [WISPA] here it come$

2010-03-12 Thread Jason Bailey
aol,prodigy,blue light...anyone remember??? --- On Fri, 3/12/10, Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote: From: Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] here it come$ To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Friday, March 12, 2010, 9:13 PM

Re: [WISPA] here it come$

2010-03-12 Thread RickG
Actually, yes, this is the first I've heard about it. Obviously, I'm not a sports fan :) I've never had a customer request. I've have mixed feelings about this. Coming from the cable world, I was used to paying providers for channel content. The difference was, we didnt have to pay for bandwidth.

Re: [WISPA] here it come$

2010-03-12 Thread RickG
As a follow up, I found out why I havent had any ESPN360 requests before now. This request came from a business account that uses my public ip addresses. My residential subs are proxied out and show up on my Time Warner IP. Since Time Warner is on the ESPN list, it works. And I was all excited to

Re: [WISPA] here it come$

2010-03-12 Thread Brent A Havens
You can't just get espn360, you have to subscribe to the entire ESPN Broadband Bundle today, which consists of ESPN360, ABCNews Broadband, Disney Connection and SOAPNETIC. You have to offer to every customer that has at least 256k down, which for most would be all customers and for 2010 the