Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

2010-04-30 Thread RickG
Its true. The IT guy said all they do is complain about Sprint. On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Jeremie Chism jchi...@gmail.com wrote: They may do that anyway. I have been dealing with different aspects of law enforcement for years and it seems like they are never happy. Then you have the

Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: You're going to love this... New IRS rules]

2010-04-30 Thread RickG
I remember those days Pat. You're too quiet now :) On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Patrick Leary ple...@apertonet.com wrote: Ladies and gentlemen, Can we please simply flush this thread? Nothing is to be gained by further postingtake it from one who used to all too often hit the send

Re: [WISPA] New WISP

2010-04-30 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I do have to tape the outside connections Mike. But instead of running a pigtail with a bulkhead connector I run an n-f/f bulkhead connector and n-m pigtials. Gotta tape up the antenna connection ONCE. After that, if you change out the radios etc. and need a different pigtail just unscrew

[WISPA] Patrick is vocal! Aperto Fun. (was something or other about something...)

2010-04-30 Thread Ryan Spott
Replying to my own thread 'cause I forgot to kill the last one. ryan On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 7:08 AM, Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com wrote: Hey! Just who I was looking for..! Can we get comment about your new Canadian overlords? Can you hit me off-list (or on-list) regarding pricing for

Re: [WISPA] [Fwd: You're going to love this... New IRS rules]

2010-04-30 Thread Ryan Spott
Hey! Just who I was looking for..! Can we get comment about your new Canadian overlords? Can you hit me off-list (or on-list) regarding pricing for Aperto 3.65 APs? ryan On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 6:33 AM, Patrick Leary ple...@apertonet.com wrote: Ladies and gentlemen, Can we please simply

Re: [WISPA] New WISP

2010-04-30 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I NEVER run high gain omni antennas. And I NEVER run cheapo antennas. Not anymore. They cost too much when you have to change them out or when the performance is flaky. Water in an antenna is really hard to figure out. Crazy antennas are even worse. The problem with a high gain omni

Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Not healthcare, taxes or government related.........

2010-04-30 Thread jp
MTI is the shizz for this. MTI will give much better coverage than a superpass, more than enough coverage to be worth the extra money. The MTI's radiating/listening pattern is pretty neat too, whereas the Superpass will be kinda like a lopsided omni. The pac-wireless hoz 900 sectors are

Re: [WISPA] New WISP

2010-04-30 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
- Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 8:54 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] New WISP Good water tight box, $200+. The ones from Tessco are 60-100 mks: Cool. I'll have to look at them. Do

Re: [WISPA] New WISP

2010-04-30 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Or, hire any two of the dozens of consultants out there that do this work. I still don't know how to do routing and I've been an ISP for 15 years. Routing is one of those things that is pretty easy to hire out. All I have to do is be good enough to get a device onto the internet in the first

Re: [WISPA] New WISP

2010-04-30 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Your time is usually MUCH better spent interfacing with your customers. Doing sales work. Local tech work etc. You should do the things that can't be done remotely. marlon - Original Message - From: Liam Cummings lcummi...@datacomspecialists.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

2010-04-30 Thread Patrick D. Nix, Jr
So is the general consensus to use 2.4Ghz instead of 4.9Ghz? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414   Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and

Re: [WISPA] New WISP

2010-04-30 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
LOL There certainly are days like that Scottie. We've now got a network that's REALLY reliable. We do have some trouble when the ground gets wet (long links too low) but other than that our service calls have gone WAY down. It took a long time to get there but we're making money now. Just

[WISPA] Overage thresholds and penalties

2010-04-30 Thread Paul Gerstenberger
We have about 15% of our existing subscribers running PPPoE through Mikrotik now, using the User Manager package. I'm astounded by the usage I'm seeing from some accounts. We do cite acceptable use in our terms of service, but we've rarely enforced it. I'm curious what approach other WISPs

Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

2010-04-30 Thread Patrick D. Nix, Jr
What about the SR4C and what AP would be best suited to pair with it? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414   Attention: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential and

Re: [WISPA] MT PtP

2010-04-30 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
yeah, turn your power WAYYY down! That'll give you a -51 signal at 4 miles. You only need a -65 to get top speed with high availability. You'd even do well with -70. Not sure if you can turn the cards down to 10dB or not but that's about all you'll need for output. I'd set the noise

Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

2010-04-30 Thread Robert West
Yep, that's what I tried to do. If the laptop is to be stationary in the vehicle it wouldn't be an issue. But again, the thing is PCMCIA, you'd probably need the express card instead. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of

Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

2010-04-30 Thread Jeremie Chism
From what I have seen 4.9 mobile is very expensive. It's been a few years since I prices it. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2010, at 9:59 AM, Patrick D. Nix, Jr pni...@cnetworksolutions.com wrote: So is the general consensus to use 2.4Ghz instead of 4.9Ghz? Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer

Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

2010-04-30 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
We've got some pretty cool MT radios set up for this. Mag Mount Mobile Mark antennas with lmr240 pig tails. Butch did the rest for us. As far as I know it works really well and required NO new infrastructure on our side. marlon - Original Message - From: Patrick D. Nix, Jr

Re: [WISPA] Overage thresholds and penalties

2010-04-30 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
We use Powercode to shape bandwidth and to track bandwidth usage, and when the customer goes over the limit, they are throttled down very hard, like 64k. Powercode has a Customer Portal feature that lets them login and check their usage any time they want. Also, they can set up daily emails

Re: [WISPA] Overage thresholds and penalties

2010-04-30 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
Our average customer does about 4 gigs per month. That's average, including servers and high end business customers. Someday I'll count the businesses different from the residential :-). We give 10 gigs per month and charge $5 per gig for overages. We've lost a few customers due to this, but

Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

2010-04-30 Thread Jerry Richardson
The patrol cars using our network use cisco cards with two rubber duckies and two Hawking amps. The antennas are installed on either end of a 2h x 3 d x 4w plastic kit enclosure sitting on the dash. They can go 60mph down the boulevard and not lose a packet. While this works, I would not have

Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

2010-04-30 Thread Steve Barnes
I have a question along this line (kind of) I am wanting to do this as well but our town is VERY full of lots of Trees. I am 100% MT AP's. Does the MT Mesh work does others use it for this kind of thing? Steve Barnes Manager PCS-WIN RC-WiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original

Re: [WISPA] Overage thresholds and penalties

2010-04-30 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
You forgot some things in your number crunching Matt. Insurance. Electricity. Labor. Head end hardware. etc. etc. etc. You have to run the calcs on how much you can give your customer based on the ENTIRE cost per customer. Not just the cost per gig. Out here each customer costs us about

Re: [WISPA] Overage thresholds and penalties

2010-04-30 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
Didn't forget those. Man do I know about those costs... I don't sign the checks anymore as I've delegated that, but I know they're there. Just didn't say them. We have about a $10-$12k cost per month for growth (dedicated installers, trucks, fuel, sales commissions, marketing, new equipment,

Re: [WISPA] Overage thresholds and penalties

2010-04-30 Thread Paul Gerstenberger
This isn't totally accurate as it's a monthly report and some users have been converted mid-month, but the average download I'm seeing is 5.7Gb. Our heaviest user did 105GB, and one recent conversion is on track to hit 200GB if the last weeks trend continues! About two thirds exceeded 10GB. I

Re: [WISPA] Overage thresholds and penalties

2010-04-30 Thread Jeremie Chism
My typical customer has Internet and 4 phone lines. Low end revenue per customer runs 240 per month. I try to sell our service as a better alternative to cable or dsl. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 30, 2010, at 11:48 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: You forgot some things

Re: [WISPA] Overage thresholds and penalties

2010-04-30 Thread richard sterne
One way of looking at overage is an extra source of revenue. So long as you are not lossing mony on it and the customer is aware of the monthly limits. Richard WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] Overage thresholds and penalties

2010-04-30 Thread Paul Gerstenberger
That was backwards actually, about one third exceeds 10GB. Still have nine hundred customers to convert to PPPoE, one by one... Oh joy. -Paul On Apr 30, 2010, at 11:28 AM, Paul Gerstenberger wrote: This isn't totally accurate as it's a monthly report and some users have been converted

[WISPA] Form 477 Survey results from a couple of months ago

2010-04-30 Thread Scott Piehn
a couple of months ago I put a survey up about form 477. Last week someone emailed and asked about final results. following is the raw data. I don't think there is any identifying information that will upset anyone, if there is, my sincere apologies Link to the origional survey is

Re: [WISPA] Overage thresholds and penalties

2010-04-30 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
Just downloaded the usage report into Excel... About 1/3 of our users go 5gigs above. It goes sharply up after that. The Powercode report shows upload usage, download usage, total usage, and upload-to-download ratio. You can usually catch the virus users or p2p-ers by checking the

Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices. Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........

2010-04-30 Thread MDK
I looked at what was out there, and decided that most were too expensive and worse... Too large for some sites. I've used the little yagi's as sectors and really, for a cheap site, or a site you can't install the big antennas, they work reasonably well.Not very good front / back ratio,

Re: [WISPA] Overage thresholds and penalties

2010-04-30 Thread Mark Dueck
How is your experience with Powercode? I once considered putting in Powercode, but it looked to be a little used product, so decided against it. On 04/30/2010 10:24 AM, Mark Nash - Lists wrote: We use Powercode to shape bandwidth and to track bandwidth usage, and when the customer goes over

Re: [WISPA] New WISP

2010-04-30 Thread Greg Ihnen
Do you have a part number for that? Where do you get it? Thanks! Greg On Apr 30, 2010, at 9:29 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: I've been REALLY happy with the Shireen double insulated cat5 with no gel. WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Overage thresholds and penalties

2010-04-30 Thread Josh Luthman
I use it and like it. On 4/30/10, Mark Dueck m...@netking.bz wrote: How is your experience with Powercode? I once considered putting in Powercode, but it looked to be a little used product, so decided against it. On 04/30/2010 10:24 AM, Mark Nash - Lists wrote: We use Powercode to shape

[WISPA] Powercode WAS: Overage thresholds and penalties

2010-04-30 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
It's been love-hate. We've actually been using it since January 2008, for billing and scheduling, tracking leads, etc. We purchased the Imagestream Rebel router to work as the Bandwidth Manager Unit (BMU) later that year, but never put it into place. This was primarily because we didn't

Re: [WISPA] Powercode WAS: Overage thresholds and penalties

2010-04-30 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
I just realized that I may have left the impression that we never implemented the BMU (though you COULD have figured it out in the details of my previous post). In fact, we ARE now using the Powercode BMU, and it's working well. For our concerns about all of our traffic going through it, we

Re: [WISPA] Powercode WAS: Overage thresholds and penalties

2010-04-30 Thread Josh Luthman
I agree it's overall positive but for the life of me I can't get them to add changepassword on log in to new Gmail accounts. Such a tiny thing and I keep mentioning it, but it's the I'll have to ask __ who has to ask someone else. On 4/30/10, Mark Nash - Lists markl...@uwol.net wrote: It's

Re: [WISPA] Powercode WAS: Overage thresholds and penalties

2010-04-30 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
Hey, I'm not using email integration. How's that working for you (the changepassword on log in to new Gmail accounts issue aside)? - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 2:09 PM Subject:

Re: [WISPA] Powercode WAS: Overage thresholds and penalties

2010-04-30 Thread Josh Luthman
That one VERY SMALL and ANNOYING bit...perfect. Email address is managed inside an account so you know who's it is (you can look an account up by it for example). Simply fill out the form and his submit. You can change their password for them if they forget it, too. On 4/30/10, Mark Nash -

Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

2010-04-30 Thread RickG
They've got old laptops. But, I'd like to have an upgrade path for when they get new laptops. On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com wrote: Yep, that's what I tried to do.  If the laptop is to be stationary in the vehicle it wouldn't be an issue.  But again,

Re: [WISPA] Powercode WAS: Overage thresholds and penalties

2010-04-30 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
Does it actually count up the number of email addresses you have and put those on a billing line item, or account for them as part of a package? For instance... Customer is given 5 email addresses as a monthly service within their package called Wireless Internet Service. Then we sell them 10

Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

2010-04-30 Thread Patrick D. Nix, Jr
How does 4.9 perform in nLOS? Specifically looking at either the Ubiquiti SR4 or Dbii f50-PRO Patrick Nix, Jr., Computer Network Solutions CSWEB.NET Internet Services IT Manager http://www.cnetworksolutions.com http://www.csweb.net (918) 235-0414   Attention: This e-mail and any attachments

Re: [WISPA] Powercode WAS: Overage thresholds and penalties

2010-04-30 Thread Josh Luthman
I see what you're getting at. I don't think the two tie together but I've not looked at it that way. I made sure the account existed, that's all. We don't chargew for email. On 4/30/10, Mark Nash - Lists markl...@uwol.net wrote: Does it actually count up the number of email addresses you

Re: [WISPA] Powercode WAS: Overage thresholds and penalties

2010-04-30 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
OK, but at least, if the account was actually CREATED in Powercode, it is accounted for in the billing program and cleaned up (removed) when the account is set to Not Active? That's a huge step in the right direction for cleaning up email accounts. Since there's no cross-reference now, I have

Re: [WISPA] Mobile broadband for Law Enforcement (Small town)

2010-04-30 Thread Ralph
4.9 performs just like 5.2 and 5.8. There is no NLOS. I have deployed a lot of it for PD surveillance cameras. The noise floor is low, but I still have links that just will refuse to work. And there are only 2 non overlapping channels unless you squeeze your bandwidth. -Original

Re: [WISPA] Powercode WAS: Overage thresholds and penalties

2010-04-30 Thread Josh Luthman
Not sure if it deletes the account. I doubt it and hope it doesn't, though. On 4/30/10, Mark Nash - Lists markl...@uwol.net wrote: OK, but at least, if the account was actually CREATED in Powercode, it is accounted for in the billing program and cleaned up (removed) when the account is set to

Re: [WISPA] Powercode WAS: Overage thresholds and penalties

2010-04-30 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
One thing that is saving us alot of time is dealing with delinquent accounts. Used to take about a couple hours each month to actually shut off CPEs for non-payment. Then each would have to call in, arrange for payment or make a credit card payment over the phone, bitch at the agent on the

[WISPA] 2.4 Airgrids?

2010-04-30 Thread Jason Wallace
Does anyone on the north American continent have Ubiquiti AirGrids (20dbi 2.4ghz) in stock? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/

Re: [WISPA] 2.4 Airgrids?

2010-04-30 Thread Michael Baird
To answer question I don't think so. I think the 5V-POE issue is going to scare us away from them for now anyway. The Nanobridge2 will be mimo, easier to install and should be very close in signal to the AirGrid2-20 anyway. The MIMO seems to be good for about a 3 db pickup. Regards Michael