Re: [WISPA] Fw: FM choke
For these ferrite chokes do you put one on the cable anywhere? At one end? Two (one at each end)? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:44 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I use them on Skywalker direct burial ethernet cable. On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Can anyone confirm if these size ferrite pieces will work on direct buriel cat5 cable (like Mohawk or Superior Essex)? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:27 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: A little less $ here: http://www.ambientweather.com/am273105.html -RickG On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: From Mouser http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Fair-Rite/0431164181/?qs=KmHvPbTOE4SbzMQqE%2fOkzw%3d%3d Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: fyi marlon Dexter Magnetic Technologies 847-956-1140 0431164181 Ferrite Bead Assembly Apryl Kuch Office Manager Odessa Office Equipment/Accima Box 489 Odessa, Wa 99159 509 982-2181 M-F 9:00 - 3:00 www.odessaoffice.com www.accima.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: Odessa Office 509-982-2181 off...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FM choke Apryl? Where do we get those ferrite beads from? marlon - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:04 PM Subject: [WISPA] FM choke Hi, A while ago someone (Marlon?) posted a website that sells Ferrite chokes specifically for eliminating FM radio station RF in ethernet cables. Anyone have that link? Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Powercode WAS: Overage thresholds and penalties
Did you guys change your redirect page very much? I changed it in two ways. I made the reasons and fixes line up and make sense (because removing a virus would never update their account) and added the IP address at the bottom so I can simply add their new computer/router/etc to their account without having them go through Windows. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Mark Nash - Lists markl...@uwol.netwrote: One thing that is saving us alot of time is dealing with delinquent accounts. Used to take about a couple hours each month to actually shut off CPEs for non-payment. Then each would have to call in, arrange for payment or make a credit card payment over the phone, bitch at the agent on the phone, etc. Now, with the combination of the Billing Server/BMU/Customer Portal, that activity has dropped to next-to-nothing. BMU redirects the Delinquent user's browser to a delinquent page and offers to connect them to the Customer Portal on the billing server. Customers can now re-activate themselves with their credit card, and don't have to go through the embarrassment of talking with someone at our office, and we don't have to deal with them either. And to boot, Powercode v9 now can automatically charge a Reconnect Fee to turn service back on. With shutoffs happening more rapidly and automatically, people are getting used to it and paying us more regularly. The usual suspects that seem to always be late are learning, too. It used to be that we could turn them back on until their check came in the mail. Now we say, I'm sorry, the system won't let you back on until I clear the late portion of the account. That's kinda true, too, because you can manually change the customer's status from Delinquent to Active, and it will let them back on. Until 3am the next morning when the routine hits again to change the account BACK to Delinquent. Poof! This having to deal MORE with the people who AREN'T paying on time used to really irk me. Now, with this system in place, I make about $250/mo from reconnect fees. Hardly have to deal with them at all, and money is coming in much more efficiently. BTW... Higher-end business clients have a HUGE grace period before they turn to Delinquent. Didn't want those guys getting shut off just because the A/P clerk took a few days off and got behind on paying the bill! - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powercode WAS: Overage thresholds and penalties Not sure if it deletes the account. I doubt it and hope it doesn't, though. On 4/30/10, Mark Nash - Lists markl...@uwol.net wrote: OK, but at least, if the account was actually CREATED in Powercode, it is accounted for in the billing program and cleaned up (removed) when the account is set to Not Active? That's a huge step in the right direction for cleaning up email accounts. Since there's no cross-reference now, I have no way of knowing who owns hundreds of our email addresses. You get people putting in email accounts without a first last name that identifies the Powercode customer, and email addresses like just2d...@whatever.com. Currently, I just have a policy of removing accounts that have not been accessed in any way within the last 6 months (deleted about 120 the other day). We pay 3rd party host for email, and we give some away and take in about $1k/mo for hosted email. So cleaning up unused accounts for our provided-free domains saves us $$. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Powercode WAS: Overage thresholds and penalties I see what you're getting at. I don't think the two tie together but I've not looked at it that way. I made sure the account existed, that's all. We don't chargew for email. On 4/30/10, Mark Nash - Lists markl...@uwol.net wrote: Does it actually count up the number of email addresses you have and put those on a billing line item, or account for them as part of a package? For instance... Customer is given 5 email addresses as a monthly service within their package called Wireless Internet Service. Then we sell them 10 more Email accounts for a total of 15... Does Powercode bill from those email addresses? Are the actual email addresses tied to the Package or Monthly Service? Or are they just managed? Do my questions make sense to you? - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday,
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol SectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
Is anyone here currently using 3 YAGI's to achieve 360 degree coverage with 3 Canopy 900 radio's? How is this working for you? Reason I am asking is because the 3 sectors are so huge that the windload on the tower is too much and looking for alternatives. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 12:53 PM To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol SectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. SuperPass is an excellent antenna brand. The founder has several unique patents in antenna technologies, that other antenna manufacturers would love to get their hands on. There are several uique end results they offer... 1) They tend to make it possible to make shorter antennas for similar gain. For example with 5.x sectors, the make some of the most compact sector antennas on the market. 2) They can make them very cost effectively, and still have them perform well. These are great for repeaters, where there is a low budget, and cosmetics and size is a concern, and closer to the ground where less durable mounts are perfectly acceptable. Now everybody cant be everthing to everybody. Just like anything else in this industry, and Provider needs to define what they need and pick an antenna that matches their specific need. SuperPass is NOT a MTI antenna, they really serve two different market segments. MTIs are EXPENSIVE and LARGE and HEAVY, the exact opposite of a Superpass antenna. Of course the MTI is going to outperform the Superpass in most cases. The MTI was purpose built to get optimal RF characteristics out of the technology, and the trade off is expense, size, and weight. But the MTI makes a VERY high quality antenna, if not one of the very best, from the perspective of RF pattern, isolation, and sturdiness. In 900Mhz, our personal favorite are the Tiltek sector antennas. We like them because they have excellent front to back isolation and quick drop on beamwidth edge comparatively, have rock solid mounting hardware thats easy to adjust, and priced a bot lower than other high end antennas. We find Winncom to be a good source for these, although I'm sure there are other good sources. The Tilteks have both a Dual Pol and Single pol options. I dont think its possible to buy a better antenna. Again, with quality, also comes size. This is a 4ft by 1.5ft antenna at about 10db for 120deg. (Thats not exact db spec) There also becomes a convenience factor to consider. We Almost always use the Trango built in antennas when we can, and I've heard that people using Canopy are happy with the Canopy brand integrated 900Sector. When the sectors quality reallty starts to matter is when trying to colocatemultiple antennas near each other to get full 360 degrees. With the Tilteks, we can get 3 120degree sectors of the same polarity colocated without self interference (meaning all on adjacent channels), fasten directly to a Guyed tower structure (meaning very little horizontal seperation, maybe 3ft) if we put about 15ft of verticle seperation between each antenna. Originally, we put them back to back, which worked way better than the other native antennas could. The excellent F/B ratio and tight beamwidth made that possible. But as our buildout grew, and we had more links and varying signal strengths, and more close to beamwidth edges than others, we recognized a clear improvement when we added the verticle seperation also. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 1:16 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. To start out with, I have heard nothing but bad news about Super Pass. I have never used them, so I am NOT speaking from experience. I am also a 80% or more Canopy shop...so take that as you will. For Canopy, I have used 120 degree H-pol Tiltek sectors...they work !@@@!...@!@ great! But they are expensive I am one to buy the close to what I think is best first and worry about the consequences later. I sleep better. Now in your situation, the Super Pass may work great? The only 900 Mhz I have used is Canopy. Canopy supposedly has the magic sauce of GPS timing. On the Tiltek sectors, with Canopy, I have customers out to 10.5 miles away and could have further but that is the the MAX AP distance that is set on my Moto 900 AP's. If you are trying to go PTP, I can offer you some suggestions on things much cheaper. If you are going to try PtMP, my suggestion will be Canopy unless you expect less than 20 subs. Scott
Re: [WISPA] Fw: FM choke
I put them on the end at the ground before the POE. Not sure if two would make any difference. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: For these ferrite chokes do you put one on the cable anywhere? At one end? Two (one at each end)? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:44 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I use them on Skywalker direct burial ethernet cable. On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Can anyone confirm if these size ferrite pieces will work on direct buriel cat5 cable (like Mohawk or Superior Essex)? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:27 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: A little less $ here: http://www.ambientweather.com/am273105.html -RickG On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: From Mouser http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Fair-Rite/0431164181/?qs=KmHvPbTOE4SbzMQqE%2fOkzw%3d%3d Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: fyi marlon Dexter Magnetic Technologies 847-956-1140 0431164181 Ferrite Bead Assembly Apryl Kuch Office Manager Odessa Office Equipment/Accima Box 489 Odessa, Wa 99159 509 982-2181 M-F 9:00 - 3:00 www.odessaoffice.com www.accima.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: Odessa Office 509-982-2181 off...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FM choke Apryl? Where do we get those ferrite beads from? marlon - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:04 PM Subject: [WISPA] FM choke Hi, A while ago someone (Marlon?) posted a website that sells Ferrite chokes specifically for eliminating FM radio station RF in ethernet cables. Anyone have that link? Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: FM choke
I was thinking 1 would be needed per line, but only based on where I've seen ferrite in the past. You are saying you do it on the power side of the poe, right? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 7:56 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I put them on the end at the ground before the POE. Not sure if two would make any difference. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: For these ferrite chokes do you put one on the cable anywhere? At one end? Two (one at each end)? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:44 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I use them on Skywalker direct burial ethernet cable. On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Can anyone confirm if these size ferrite pieces will work on direct buriel cat5 cable (like Mohawk or Superior Essex)? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:27 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: A little less $ here: http://www.ambientweather.com/am273105.html -RickG On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: From Mouser http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Fair-Rite/0431164181/?qs=KmHvPbTOE4SbzMQqE%2fOkzw%3d%3d Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: fyi marlon Dexter Magnetic Technologies 847-956-1140 0431164181 Ferrite Bead Assembly Apryl Kuch Office Manager Odessa Office Equipment/Accima Box 489 Odessa, Wa 99159 509 982-2181 M-F 9:00 - 3:00 www.odessaoffice.com www.accima.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: Odessa Office 509-982-2181 off...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FM choke Apryl? Where do we get those ferrite beads from? marlon - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:04 PM Subject: [WISPA] FM choke Hi, A while ago someone (Marlon?) posted a website that sells Ferrite chokes specifically for eliminating FM radio station RF in ethernet cables. Anyone have that link? Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol SectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
I know for a fact at least one person on the other list you and I share is doing it. It was suggested to me a few months ago. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: Is anyone here currently using 3 YAGI's to achieve 360 degree coverage with 3 Canopy 900 radio's? How is this working for you? Reason I am asking is because the 3 sectors are so huge that the windload on the tower is too much and looking for alternatives. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 12:53 PM To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol SectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. SuperPass is an excellent antenna brand. The founder has several unique patents in antenna technologies, that other antenna manufacturers would love to get their hands on. There are several uique end results they offer... 1) They tend to make it possible to make shorter antennas for similar gain. For example with 5.x sectors, the make some of the most compact sector antennas on the market. 2) They can make them very cost effectively, and still have them perform well. These are great for repeaters, where there is a low budget, and cosmetics and size is a concern, and closer to the ground where less durable mounts are perfectly acceptable. Now everybody cant be everthing to everybody. Just like anything else in this industry, and Provider needs to define what they need and pick an antenna that matches their specific need. SuperPass is NOT a MTI antenna, they really serve two different market segments. MTIs are EXPENSIVE and LARGE and HEAVY, the exact opposite of a Superpass antenna. Of course the MTI is going to outperform the Superpass in most cases. The MTI was purpose built to get optimal RF characteristics out of the technology, and the trade off is expense, size, and weight. But the MTI makes a VERY high quality antenna, if not one of the very best, from the perspective of RF pattern, isolation, and sturdiness. In 900Mhz, our personal favorite are the Tiltek sector antennas. We like them because they have excellent front to back isolation and quick drop on beamwidth edge comparatively, have rock solid mounting hardware thats easy to adjust, and priced a bot lower than other high end antennas. We find Winncom to be a good source for these, although I'm sure there are other good sources. The Tilteks have both a Dual Pol and Single pol options. I dont think its possible to buy a better antenna. Again, with quality, also comes size. This is a 4ft by 1.5ft antenna at about 10db for 120deg. (Thats not exact db spec) There also becomes a convenience factor to consider. We Almost always use the Trango built in antennas when we can, and I've heard that people using Canopy are happy with the Canopy brand integrated 900Sector. When the sectors quality reallty starts to matter is when trying to colocatemultiple antennas near each other to get full 360 degrees. With the Tilteks, we can get 3 120degree sectors of the same polarity colocated without self interference (meaning all on adjacent channels), fasten directly to a Guyed tower structure (meaning very little horizontal seperation, maybe 3ft) if we put about 15ft of verticle seperation between each antenna. Originally, we put them back to back, which worked way better than the other native antennas could. The excellent F/B ratio and tight beamwidth made that possible. But as our buildout grew, and we had more links and varying signal strengths, and more close to beamwidth edges than others, we recognized a clear improvement when we added the verticle seperation also. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 1:16 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. To start out with, I have heard nothing but bad news about Super Pass. I have never used them, so I am NOT speaking from experience. I am also a 80% or more Canopy shop...so take that as you will. For Canopy, I have used 120 degree H-pol Tiltek sectors...they work !@@@!...@!@ great! But they are expensive I am one to buy the close to what I think is best first and worry about the consequences later. I sleep better. Now in your situation, the Super Pass may work great? The only
Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-PolSectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related.........
What about the front to back ratio with the yagis? That's really gotta suck unless you're going with 5mhz channels. - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2010 8:33 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-PolSectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. I know for a fact at least one person on the other list you and I share is doing it. It was suggested to me a few months ago. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com wrote: Is anyone here currently using 3 YAGI's to achieve 360 degree coverage with 3 Canopy 900 radio's? How is this working for you? Reason I am asking is because the 3 sectors are so huge that the windload on the tower is too much and looking for alternatives. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 12:53 PM To: sarn...@info-ed.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol SectorChoices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. SuperPass is an excellent antenna brand. The founder has several unique patents in antenna technologies, that other antenna manufacturers would love to get their hands on. There are several uique end results they offer... 1) They tend to make it possible to make shorter antennas for similar gain. For example with 5.x sectors, the make some of the most compact sector antennas on the market. 2) They can make them very cost effectively, and still have them perform well. These are great for repeaters, where there is a low budget, and cosmetics and size is a concern, and closer to the ground where less durable mounts are perfectly acceptable. Now everybody cant be everthing to everybody. Just like anything else in this industry, and Provider needs to define what they need and pick an antenna that matches their specific need. SuperPass is NOT a MTI antenna, they really serve two different market segments. MTIs are EXPENSIVE and LARGE and HEAVY, the exact opposite of a Superpass antenna. Of course the MTI is going to outperform the Superpass in most cases. The MTI was purpose built to get optimal RF characteristics out of the technology, and the trade off is expense, size, and weight. But the MTI makes a VERY high quality antenna, if not one of the very best, from the perspective of RF pattern, isolation, and sturdiness. In 900Mhz, our personal favorite are the Tiltek sector antennas. We like them because they have excellent front to back isolation and quick drop on beamwidth edge comparatively, have rock solid mounting hardware thats easy to adjust, and priced a bot lower than other high end antennas. We find Winncom to be a good source for these, although I'm sure there are other good sources. The Tilteks have both a Dual Pol and Single pol options. I dont think its possible to buy a better antenna. Again, with quality, also comes size. This is a 4ft by 1.5ft antenna at about 10db for 120deg. (Thats not exact db spec) There also becomes a convenience factor to consider. We Almost always use the Trango built in antennas when we can, and I've heard that people using Canopy are happy with the Canopy brand integrated 900Sector. When the sectors quality reallty starts to matter is when trying to colocatemultiple antennas near each other to get full 360 degrees. With the Tilteks, we can get 3 120degree sectors of the same polarity colocated without self interference (meaning all on adjacent channels), fasten directly to a Guyed tower structure (meaning very little horizontal seperation, maybe 3ft) if we put about 15ft of verticle seperation between each antenna. Originally, we put them back to back, which worked way better than the other native antennas could. The excellent F/B ratio and tight beamwidth made that possible. But as our buildout grew, and we had more links and varying signal strengths, and more close to beamwidth edges than others, we recognized a clear improvement when we added the verticle seperation also. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Scottie Arnett sarn...@info-ed.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 1:16 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for iput on 900MHz H-Pol Sector Choices.Nothealthcare, taxes or government related. To start out with, I have heard nothing but bad news about Super Pass. I have never used them,
Re: [WISPA] Fw: FM choke
If you did two I'd put them together or if you space them make sure you don't space them a half wavelength apart so as to avoid have a section between the beads that would be resonant. The reason for spacing them might be to keep the RF away from the other equipment so you don't have the shielded ethernet cable re-radiating the energy in the equipment shack where it could take another place into the equipment. Greg On May 2, 2010, at 7:26 PM, RickG wrote: I put them on the end at the ground before the POE. Not sure if two would make any difference. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: For these ferrite chokes do you put one on the cable anywhere? At one end? Two (one at each end)? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:44 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I use them on Skywalker direct burial ethernet cable. On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Can anyone confirm if these size ferrite pieces will work on direct buriel cat5 cable (like Mohawk or Superior Essex)? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:27 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: A little less $ here: http://www.ambientweather.com/am273105.html -RickG On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: From Mouser http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Fair-Rite/0431164181/?qs=KmHvPbTOE4SbzMQqE%2fOkzw%3d%3d Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: fyi marlon Dexter Magnetic Technologies 847-956-1140 0431164181 Ferrite Bead Assembly Apryl Kuch Office Manager Odessa Office Equipment/Accima Box 489 Odessa, Wa 99159 509 982-2181 M-F 9:00 - 3:00 www.odessaoffice.com www.accima.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: Odessa Office 509-982-2181 off...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FM choke Apryl? Where do we get those ferrite beads from? marlon - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:04 PM Subject: [WISPA] FM choke Hi, A while ago someone (Marlon?) posted a website that sells Ferrite chokes specifically for eliminating FM radio station RF in ethernet cables. Anyone have that link? Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: FM choke
Yes, I put them on the power side of the Ethernet cable running up to the radios. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I was thinking 1 would be needed per line, but only based on where I've seen ferrite in the past. You are saying you do it on the power side of the poe, right? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 7:56 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I put them on the end at the ground before the POE. Not sure if two would make any difference. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: For these ferrite chokes do you put one on the cable anywhere? At one end? Two (one at each end)? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:44 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I use them on Skywalker direct burial ethernet cable. On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Can anyone confirm if these size ferrite pieces will work on direct buriel cat5 cable (like Mohawk or Superior Essex)? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:27 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: A little less $ here: http://www.ambientweather.com/am273105.html -RickG On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: From Mouser http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Fair-Rite/0431164181/?qs=KmHvPbTOE4SbzMQqE%2fOkzw%3d%3d Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: fyi marlon Dexter Magnetic Technologies 847-956-1140 0431164181 Ferrite Bead Assembly Apryl Kuch Office Manager Odessa Office Equipment/Accima Box 489 Odessa, Wa 99159 509 982-2181 M-F 9:00 - 3:00 www.odessaoffice.com www.accima.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: Odessa Office 509-982-2181 off...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FM choke Apryl? Where do we get those ferrite beads from? marlon - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:04 PM Subject: [WISPA] FM choke Hi, A while ago someone (Marlon?) posted a website that sells Ferrite chokes specifically for eliminating FM radio station RF in ethernet cables. Anyone have that link? Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: FM choke
Hi Rick, I bought a couple of those beads that you linked to a few weeks ago when this was a hot topic -- but my outdoor (24 gauge) cable is too large to fit in them (i.e., the enclosure doesn't snap closed). Do you use an outdoor cable of smaller diameter than 24 gauge, or do you tape the ferrite bead enclosure closed or something? Thanks! RickG wrote: Yes, I put them on the power side of the Ethernet cable running up to the radios. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I was thinking 1 would be needed per line, but only based on where I've seen ferrite in the past. You are saying you do it on the power side of the poe, right? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 7:56 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I put them on the end at the ground before the POE. Not sure if two would make any difference. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: For these ferrite chokes do you put one on the cable anywhere? At one end? Two (one at each end)? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:44 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I use them on Skywalker direct burial ethernet cable. On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Can anyone confirm if these size ferrite pieces will work on direct buriel cat5 cable (like Mohawk or Superior Essex)? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:27 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: A little less $ here: http://www.ambientweather.com/am273105.html -RickG On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: From Mouser http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Fair-Rite/0431164181/?qs=KmHvPbTOE4SbzMQqE%2fOkzw%3d%3d Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: fyi marlon Dexter Magnetic Technologies 847-956-1140 0431164181 Ferrite Bead Assembly Apryl Kuch Office Manager Odessa Office Equipment/Accima Box 489 Odessa, Wa 99159 509 982-2181 M-F 9:00 - 3:00 www.odessaoffice.com www.accima.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: Odessa Office 509-982-2181 off...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FM choke Apryl? Where do we get those ferrite beads from? marlon - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:04 PM Subject: [WISPA] FM choke Hi, A while ago someone (Marlon?) posted a website that sells Ferrite chokes specifically for eliminating FM radio station RF in ethernet cables. Anyone have that link? Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FM choke
Wrap it around and zip tie it together. I've not had them in my hand but the plastic tabs are unlikely to hold over time. On 5/2/10, Steven G McGehee stev...@qx.net wrote: Hi Rick, I bought a couple of those beads that you linked to a few weeks ago when this was a hot topic -- but my outdoor (24 gauge) cable is too large to fit in them (i.e., the enclosure doesn't snap closed). Do you use an outdoor cable of smaller diameter than 24 gauge, or do you tape the ferrite bead enclosure closed or something? Thanks! RickG wrote: Yes, I put them on the power side of the Ethernet cable running up to the radios. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I was thinking 1 would be needed per line, but only based on where I've seen ferrite in the past. You are saying you do it on the power side of the poe, right? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 7:56 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I put them on the end at the ground before the POE. Not sure if two would make any difference. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: For these ferrite chokes do you put one on the cable anywhere? At one end? Two (one at each end)? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:44 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I use them on Skywalker direct burial ethernet cable. On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Can anyone confirm if these size ferrite pieces will work on direct buriel cat5 cable (like Mohawk or Superior Essex)? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:27 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: A little less $ here: http://www.ambientweather.com/am273105.html -RickG On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: From Mouser http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Fair-Rite/0431164181/?qs=KmHvPbTOE4SbzMQqE%2fOkzw%3d%3d Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: fyi marlon Dexter Magnetic Technologies 847-956-1140 0431164181 Ferrite Bead Assembly Apryl Kuch Office Manager Odessa Office Equipment/Accima Box 489 Odessa, Wa 99159 509 982-2181 M-F 9:00 - 3:00 www.odessaoffice.com www.accima.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: Odessa Office 509-982-2181 off...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FM choke Apryl? Where do we get those ferrite beads from? marlon - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:04 PM Subject: [WISPA] FM choke Hi, A while ago someone (Marlon?) posted a website that sells Ferrite chokes specifically for eliminating FM radio station RF in ethernet cables. Anyone have that link? Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] FM choke
Make sure it pulls the core together (no spaces between halves) or it will lose it's effectiveness. Greg On May 2, 2010, at 10:57 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Wrap it around and zip tie it together. I've not had them in my hand but the plastic tabs are unlikely to hold over time. On 5/2/10, Steven G McGehee stev...@qx.net wrote: Hi Rick, I bought a couple of those beads that you linked to a few weeks ago when this was a hot topic -- but my outdoor (24 gauge) cable is too large to fit in them (i.e., the enclosure doesn't snap closed). Do you use an outdoor cable of smaller diameter than 24 gauge, or do you tape the ferrite bead enclosure closed or something? Thanks! RickG wrote: Yes, I put them on the power side of the Ethernet cable running up to the radios. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I was thinking 1 would be needed per line, but only based on where I've seen ferrite in the past. You are saying you do it on the power side of the poe, right? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 7:56 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I put them on the end at the ground before the POE. Not sure if two would make any difference. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: For these ferrite chokes do you put one on the cable anywhere? At one end? Two (one at each end)? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:44 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I use them on Skywalker direct burial ethernet cable. On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Can anyone confirm if these size ferrite pieces will work on direct buriel cat5 cable (like Mohawk or Superior Essex)? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:27 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: A little less $ here: http://www.ambientweather.com/am273105.html -RickG On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: From Mouser http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Fair-Rite/0431164181/?qs=KmHvPbTOE4SbzMQqE%2fOkzw%3d%3d Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: fyi marlon Dexter Magnetic Technologies 847-956-1140 0431164181 Ferrite Bead Assembly Apryl Kuch Office Manager Odessa Office Equipment/Accima Box 489 Odessa, Wa 99159 509 982-2181 M-F 9:00 - 3:00 www.odessaoffice.com www.accima.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: Odessa Office 509-982-2181 off...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FM choke Apryl? Where do we get those ferrite beads from? marlon - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:04 PM Subject: [WISPA] FM choke Hi, A while ago someone (Marlon?) posted a website that sells Ferrite chokes specifically for eliminating FM radio station RF in ethernet cables. Anyone have that link? Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join
Re: [WISPA] FM choke
Right - the ferrite material needs to be continuous. The plastic bit is irrelevant. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 12:12 AM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Make sure it pulls the core together (no spaces between halves) or it will lose it's effectiveness. Greg On May 2, 2010, at 10:57 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Wrap it around and zip tie it together. I've not had them in my hand but the plastic tabs are unlikely to hold over time. On 5/2/10, Steven G McGehee stev...@qx.net wrote: Hi Rick, I bought a couple of those beads that you linked to a few weeks ago when this was a hot topic -- but my outdoor (24 gauge) cable is too large to fit in them (i.e., the enclosure doesn't snap closed). Do you use an outdoor cable of smaller diameter than 24 gauge, or do you tape the ferrite bead enclosure closed or something? Thanks! RickG wrote: Yes, I put them on the power side of the Ethernet cable running up to the radios. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I was thinking 1 would be needed per line, but only based on where I've seen ferrite in the past. You are saying you do it on the power side of the poe, right? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 7:56 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I put them on the end at the ground before the POE. Not sure if two would make any difference. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: For these ferrite chokes do you put one on the cable anywhere? At one end? Two (one at each end)? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:44 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I use them on Skywalker direct burial ethernet cable. On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Can anyone confirm if these size ferrite pieces will work on direct buriel cat5 cable (like Mohawk or Superior Essex)? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:27 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: A little less $ here: http://www.ambientweather.com/am273105.html -RickG On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: From Mouser http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Fair-Rite/0431164181/?qs=KmHvPbTOE4SbzMQqE%2fOkzw%3d%3d Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: fyi marlon Dexter Magnetic Technologies 847-956-1140 0431164181 Ferrite Bead Assembly Apryl Kuch Office Manager Odessa Office Equipment/Accima Box 489 Odessa, Wa 99159 509 982-2181 M-F 9:00 - 3:00 www.odessaoffice.com www.accima.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: Odessa Office 509-982-2181 off...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FM choke Apryl? Where do we get those ferrite beads from? marlon - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:04 PM Subject: [WISPA] FM choke Hi, A while ago someone (Marlon?) posted a website that sells Ferrite chokes specifically for eliminating FM radio station RF in ethernet cables. Anyone have that link? Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: FM choke
Sorry to hear that. My cable is 24 gauge, cat5e outdoor grade and the beads do fit. Maybe your cable has a thicker jacket? On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Steven G McGehee stev...@qx.net wrote: Hi Rick, I bought a couple of those beads that you linked to a few weeks ago when this was a hot topic -- but my outdoor (24 gauge) cable is too large to fit in them (i.e., the enclosure doesn't snap closed). Do you use an outdoor cable of smaller diameter than 24 gauge, or do you tape the ferrite bead enclosure closed or something? Thanks! RickG wrote: Yes, I put them on the power side of the Ethernet cable running up to the radios. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I was thinking 1 would be needed per line, but only based on where I've seen ferrite in the past. You are saying you do it on the power side of the poe, right? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 7:56 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I put them on the end at the ground before the POE. Not sure if two would make any difference. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: For these ferrite chokes do you put one on the cable anywhere? At one end? Two (one at each end)? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:44 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I use them on Skywalker direct burial ethernet cable. On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Can anyone confirm if these size ferrite pieces will work on direct buriel cat5 cable (like Mohawk or Superior Essex)? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:27 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: A little less $ here: http://www.ambientweather.com/am273105.html -RickG On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: From Mouser http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Fair-Rite/0431164181/?qs=KmHvPbTOE4SbzMQqE%2fOkzw%3d%3d Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: fyi marlon Dexter Magnetic Technologies 847-956-1140 0431164181 Ferrite Bead Assembly Apryl Kuch Office Manager Odessa Office Equipment/Accima Box 489 Odessa, Wa 99159 509 982-2181 M-F 9:00 - 3:00 www.odessaoffice.com www.accima.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: Odessa Office 509-982-2181 off...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FM choke Apryl? Where do we get those ferrite beads from? marlon - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:04 PM Subject: [WISPA] FM choke Hi, A while ago someone (Marlon?) posted a website that sells Ferrite chokes specifically for eliminating FM radio station RF in ethernet cables. Anyone have that link? Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives:
Re: [WISPA] Fw: FM choke
No prob Rick -- yeah it could be that, it's Mohawk outdoor ethernet (don't know the specific model # off hand). Could also be since they only had two left in stock when I ordered that by the time my order was processed they slipped me another, smaller sized model shrugs :-) Thanks. RickG wrote: Sorry to hear that. My cable is 24 gauge, cat5e outdoor grade and the beads do fit. Maybe your cable has a thicker jacket? On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:02 PM, Steven G McGehee stev...@qx.net wrote: Hi Rick, I bought a couple of those beads that you linked to a few weeks ago when this was a hot topic -- but my outdoor (24 gauge) cable is too large to fit in them (i.e., the enclosure doesn't snap closed). Do you use an outdoor cable of smaller diameter than 24 gauge, or do you tape the ferrite bead enclosure closed or something? Thanks! RickG wrote: Yes, I put them on the power side of the Ethernet cable running up to the radios. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 8:29 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I was thinking 1 would be needed per line, but only based on where I've seen ferrite in the past. You are saying you do it on the power side of the poe, right? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 7:56 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I put them on the end at the ground before the POE. Not sure if two would make any difference. On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: For these ferrite chokes do you put one on the cable anywhere? At one end? Two (one at each end)? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:44 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I use them on Skywalker direct burial ethernet cable. On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Can anyone confirm if these size ferrite pieces will work on direct buriel cat5 cable (like Mohawk or Superior Essex)? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 8:27 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: A little less $ here: http://www.ambientweather.com/am273105.html -RickG On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: From Mouser http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Fair-Rite/0431164181/?qs=KmHvPbTOE4SbzMQqE%2fOkzw%3d%3d Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.comwrote: fyi marlon Dexter Magnetic Technologies 847-956-1140 0431164181 Ferrite Bead Assembly Apryl Kuch Office Manager Odessa Office Equipment/Accima Box 489 Odessa, Wa 99159 509 982-2181 M-F 9:00 - 3:00 www.odessaoffice.com www.accima.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: Odessa Office 509-982-2181 off...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] FM choke Apryl? Where do we get those ferrite beads from? marlon - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 12:04 PM Subject: [WISPA] FM choke Hi, A while ago someone (Marlon?) posted a website that sells Ferrite chokes specifically for eliminating FM radio station RF in ethernet cables. Anyone have that link? Travis Microserv WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
